lol almost every game have unlimited ammo in tanks, like war thunder maybe it got like 100 shells but its impossible u ran out without dying. Lol anyway to the point rlly tiger tank hold 92 shells lol i hope you can ran out of ammo while playing.....
Fun fact : müller didn't actually die, the shots when the screen went black were the Americans shooting Schröder. Müller was captured and was a POW in America, when he was set free he stayed in America and changed his last name to Miller, and is the great grandfather of Miller from the THUNDER RUN tank mission in battlefield 3
Schroder didn't killed Muller. The gunshot at the end was from the Americans. They shot Schroder before he could shoot Peter. This is why Peter is telling the story in the first place. He ain't dead
Muller isn’t dead the shots were one MP 40 shot and two M1928 Thompson shots, also by the way Schroder was aiming the gun muller would have got shot in the gut.
Amazing campaign mission.... best I've ever seen that actually humanizes the enemy. Btw, anyone else do a mental doubletake when they heard *American* voices on the enemy soldiers during the stealth mission?? We're so used to hearing foreign chatter from the enemies we're hiding from in games like this, so actually understanding them tripped me tf UP.
Damn, I'm just now understanding the reason why Muller told that story of how he was caught with some kids stealing from a local shop. It's a direct parallel to his role in the war. Even though he most likely didn't participate in or support the atrocities the Nazis(SS) were committing during WWII, he was still there fighting and just like how he had to face the consequences for being with the group of boys when the stole from the shop even though he didn't steal anything, he now has to face the consequences for fighting in the German army(Wehrmacht) even though he didn't commit any of the atrocities the Nazis did during the war. That's some pretty good writing on Dice's part. It's too bad this story was so short.
Oh shit, i never even thought of that. Honestly this was the best warstory, they should have had a full campaign with this cast. To see them throughout the war
Most soldiers and generals lived through , but Nazi officials in military and generals and officers involved in war crimes where tried at Nürnberg trials , and punished . There are still german veterans alive who retold everything that they had to do .
By the way, just to clarify things. Most of the Wehrmacht generals were involved in atrocities, be it commanded to do so or allowing it to happen. The Western Front and North Africa might have been nice and cushioned, unfortunately 90% of the Germans forces were fighting on the Eastern Front, which means unfortunately most of them were involved in burning villages, rounding up Jews, executing prisoners, destroying infrastructure, rape. This is why Rommel was used as a front for the "clean Wehrmacht". He never served on the Eastern Front, he was a formidable, respectable, upstanding general who, most importantly, was defeated by the Western Allies ALONE.
Many games often bring 'the good guys' point in war games, especially for WW (1 or 2). But, this mission really turns our view that every enemy isn't always 'the bad guy'. Hopefully, there will be more war games that you can play not just 'the good guy' side but also 'enemy' side. That'll bring us to different perspective and makes the gameplay even better
The ending is so sad. You know it's a good campaign when it makes you care about the people even the enemies . Instead of seeing them as nothing but monsters with no feelings you see the human side of them. I really want to play this game.
Only problem is that was very few of the German army at the time and a lot of them committed numerous war crimes, you can’t exactly blame them where the people in charge of your are psychos
Hanzac Hurae No, that's not how Tank Organizations and Battles works. Tiger comes in a platoon of five, just like the Shermans. However, Tigers works alongside with other Medium Tanks such as the Panzer IV and the Panther. Their combat would be effective if their reconnaissance has given them good info. Tanks don't fight other Tanks unless if you have recon.
@@Romanov117 You saw the situation at the late stage of war right? They literally had nothing left, and used whatever they had on them. And German tanks did operate alone, just read about the Wittmann's case when he alone ambushed a British column with a Tiger tank.
I'm here because my savegame got corrupted on the last segment of this war story and the game kept crashing. It was either spend over an hour re-playing the war story or just watch the end cutscene online.
When Müller surrenders... the cinematography and the story is brilliantly written. At the beginning Müller states the lesson from his father about "being there" meant being accountable. But it wasn't the lesson he learned as a child. Only when his friend is cut down by Schröder does the lesson become clear. And that isn't the Iron Cross he's throwing away... Müller is a member of the Knight's Cross of the Reich... the highest honor bestowed by the Reich to its most loyal of servants who distinguished themselves in battle and in service to the Reich. You're talking about a commander who had most likely met Hitler... or at the minimum... served at some point as a senior adjunct to a member of the high command. Müller isn't some pansy - this is a man who spent most of his career for the past 15 years, since the end of the first world war, as a career soldier. We're talking someone who was probably a major (very tough to see his rank but he appears to be a captain). When Kurtz goes down... Müller can no longer ignore his role. He throws away his highest honor... and surrenders. It's brilliant writing... and this mission was by far the best of them all. The Last Tiger could have been a game all on its own... following Tiger 237 from Africa to the fall of Berlin. Müller appears to be a mesh of several famous Reich tank commanders... Captain Michael Wittmann strikes me as one... Captain Hans Bolter strikes as the other likely inspiration...
Finally a ww2 game were it does not just say, "german bad america good." They show the struggles that they went through how they treated their own soldiers for deserting and the regret for what they had done. Not to mention the character development it makes you care about them and not see them as the monsters we made them out to be. This story alone makes the game a 10/10
THIS IS IMPORTANT, THE SOUND YOU HEAR AT THE END OF THE WAR STORY IS AN AMERICAN THOMPSON, NOT A GERMAN MP40, IT MEANS PETER ISN'T BEING SHOT, BUT SCHRODER BEING SHOT BY AN AMERICAN, PETER IS STILL ALIVE!
No matter the controversies, no matter the inaccuracies, no matter the developers, I'm happy the characters spoke in their native language. My favourite thing about the BFV campaign.
That's the power of indoctrination - quite literally what the Hitlerjugend existed for. And it was Muller, the authority figure he looked up to, who reinforced it when trying to motivate him at the start. The party line. Schroder wasn't a monster - this shit is what happens when you brainwash children and throw them into war.
You can't blame Schröder. Imagine growing up in a country with propaganda 24/7. You can see when Müller ran towards Kertz he got confused but before he realized what he did the Americans showed up.
well a bullet gets its force from momentum and when your so close alot of force is not behind it because the bullets doesn't get as momentum but when he killed a tank from far away it was a 1 hit thats cause the shell got momentum or enough to do a 1 hit.
Yeah otherwise it would be too easy, the same goes for the fact that the Shermans do damage to the Tiger in this game, in reality a Sherman doesn't do any form of damage to the front og a Tiger qhen they are equipped with a 76mm gun
@@gaatjeniksaan336 this is fake news. The tiger was not an unstoppable beast as is portrayed. and the Sherman's 76 had enough penetration to go through the 100mm armor of the Tigers front. The problem had to do with the range at which they could penetrate the tiger tank. A Tiger could easily penetrate a Sherman at 1000m but a Sherman could not do the same to a tiger. If the range was below a KM the tank that shot first won. Range and the fact that every tiger had a radio was the germans key advantage. by the time the war was ending (well before this mission) the allies had designed ACPR rounds that were capable of penetrating 171mm of armor from 2km range. almost twice the thickness of a tiger's frontal armor.
The iron bridge in the beginning is in my Hometown in Cologne. The so called Hohenzollern Brücke. This Bridge Was destroyed in WW2 and then Rebuild. You can see the destroyed Parts are reassembled on the right side if you Visit this bridge. The left side was destroyed and then rebuilt on the right side a couple of meters away. Near by the Cologne Cathedral is a Shop with pics about the devastation about the bridge. My grandfather Was a steelworker and he Was part of the builders that repaired the Cologne Central Station. The Houses near The rhine on the left side stand in Real there as well. But there is the Cologne cathedreal missing. Fun fact: the Cologne cathedral Was a important Landmark for the american bombers and it was hit a couple of Times.
Yeah.....Play as some unknown female girl who slaugther an entire Battalions and destroy the entire german supplies of heavy water. Yeah no Thanks, I'm more belive in Historic Accuracy than those shits. What Last Tiger Stories reflects is that they were not a Heroes, just a regular Human beeing that trying to Survive. And its still stick to Historical Value. When Americans made across the Rhine River and we got a prespective as a German Soldier that trying to Defends the last Bastion of their Homeland(The Rhine River), That's how a Great Stories make, without showing Political or Agendas, Just a Regular Human Beeing that tired of War but still despite of that still trying to Protect their Homeland.
@@swatb2719 You might want to consider that it was Churchill who started the carpet bombing of cities (that is, the intentional, wanton destruction of civilian life "just because"). At the point of time of this game, Dresden had not yet been firebombed, but in Roosevelt's demand for unconditional surrender there was straightup understanding that no mercy whatsoever would be shown to Germany or her people (for more info: see The Morgenthal Plan). Approaching Berlin were the Russian troops whose lust for murder and rape of civilians was already established. Of course, you are aware that the Jews in America declared an economic war on Germany within a week of Hitler becoming chancellor. A considerable threat given their position of power in the financial sector and given Germany's barely functioning economy due to the burden of Versailles treaty reparations. In short, France/England never stopped waging (economic) war against after the WW1 armstice. To tie all this together, Germans understood that Germany was meant to be eradicated at the end of hostilities. Hitler's presumption that Germany should become a normal nation with a normal, industrialized economy had to be punished. Although voice track in this game (and it is meant to be a game, not accurage history) emphasizes the irrationality of the struggle, actual history tells us that Germany in 1945 faced Sein oder Nichtsein. [It must be said, Germans have finally learned their lesson and now are so filled with shame, self-loathing that they are willing today to be displaced/eradicated by immigrants from Africa and the Middle East that are openly contemptuous towards German culture, history and people.] All that said, once one is in a firefight, commanders have to do all they can to give the soldier hope and motivation: a half-hearted, doubtful mindset is a guarantee that you and your buddies in the squad will soon be dead. No more time for philosophizing.
@@swatb2719 it was the zeitgeist of the time... I just say "Prussia" Only 30% voted for Hitler, but no one stands up against him, because it's wrong to say something against the leadership (at least that was the mindset of the most ppl, preußische Tugenden) that's something the ppl learned a long time ago under the rule of the emperors.. Fascism was on the rise worldwide.. Only because Germany become a Foe, the most other nations starts to fight the facism seriously... Hitler tortured ppl arrested them.. Killed them... Took houses and countrys... Companys, innovations etc... There is a reason why we called him "dictator" My great-grandfather was forced to Join the Wehrmacht, even as a half-amecian he had to join the Army during is German vacation... He died as a Russia pow.. Starvation.. He never had a choice.. And if he had one and choose the wrong way his German family back home would suffer immediately... It's not a thing you can explain in one comment... But for sure you can't blame the German population for what happens.. The most Germans never wanted this war.. And this is fact
@@swatb2719 SwatB2 don't get me wrong! I'm sure more than 30% liked what he did and received between 33-42.. Its a damn difficult topic.. We like to say.. It not about the few bad ppl it's about the Hugh amount of good pp who did nothing.. And here we are again by the preußischen Tugenden Hitlers Lust for power is for sure one of the reasons why he lose the war. Killing Rommel and keeping Model is just one proof of his stupidy.. He was a bad leader for the Wehrmacht, it was not uncommon to ignore a "Führerbefehl" (Hitler-order) or to change some aspects of it.. Later on they simply told him what he want to hear from them.. Same with his "Vergeltungswaffen"(more or less useless) or "Sturmgewehr 44" what he didn't like but was superior in battle
@@meowmeow3778 he still be alive in some ways i guess . because he's narrating the story and the quote he said " i was there " means he was in that last tiger battle ,maybe the Schorder kid had been shot down so the kid missed that shot to kill his former comander . After surrendering to the allied Muller survived and then when the world finally came to peace he settled down and told EA the story :))
At last Battlefield 5 was able to show something that is sensitive too I am very sorry Kertz and Peter Müller. The Last Tiger will hope to return one day. I almost cried. :(
@@srenfogh59 I mean, the Panzer II was originally designed to use only a machine gun. Especially as the war dragged on tanks were used as infantry support and variations lacking heavy armament were always in circulation, especially for popular mediums such as the Pz.4
I sincerely pray and hope no one got triggered by playing from the Axis perspective. This is a welcoming addition, we need to see the war from the eyes of both sides not because who was right or wrong but to get the actual picture. I hope more Game developers are encouraged from this to put the Axis perspective into their game plays.
I got triggered. Seriously that is a silly statement, everything and anything is triggering to someone somewhere even if it's because of things like negative associated memories (ex: being "triggered" by the color blue because you had a traumatic experience in a blue room). Praying and hoping, no matter how sincerely ain't gonna change jack and isn't a good reason to do or not do something. If you want to offend no one, just stand still and do nothing, don't even breathe.
@@Iklilledurhamster49 Yes it was an offensive war started by Germany but one caused in large parts by a punishing Versailles treaty, which was so unbiased against Germany that historians refer to is not as peace treaty but treaty for peace 'for a set period'. Because the treaty was also so unfair the Nazis could instrumentalise it easily to get to power. This type of thing is everywhere in human history. If you do somebody or an entire country bad by they will come back against you or try at least.
The end is great, it shows that even the enemies have feeling and just doing their jobs and also have emotions. Cod ww2 shows the Germans as emotionless enemies that keeps shooting untill their dead but its great to show the emotion and feelings the enemies go through. Example müller losing his friend kerts and surrendering when he know its over, It shows that even germans soldiers have feelings in them.
@@youfakedepressionandanxiet1715 So... you only put black color as your picture because you thought it makes you look cool, you probably don't even know what black is.
Mika Seifert finally shows the difference between soldiers who defended their country in the last days of the war and brainwashed kids who fought for a fallen regime.
Hearing the German language as protagonists in a triple A WW2 FPS is just...surreal. I never thought I'd see the day they get a story. Big thanks to DICE. RIP Tiger 237 "Stefan". Inaccuracies are present though, but it's just minor details: - the standard salute is okay for the Wehrmacht. It was replaced by the Nazi salute after the 20 July plot to ensure loyalty. - the first tank in the convoy should be hit, according to tank doctrine.
Hiting first tank in convoy was used only if destroyed tank would block way further for rest of tanks. On desert, like in game, tankers weren't using this strategy often besause it wasn't making any difference
This was such a great mission, I really wish the rest of the game was like it. So much was packed into such a short story and it was fun enough to replay again sometime.
These stories may be true, but let’s face the facts: We may never know what most of the stories that were from the other side go, because in the end the stories that we do hear are straight from history... and history is ultimately written by the victor, not the loser.
Epicman 11 Great points, but I would argue that you cannot publish a man for defending his country, especially when the orders he did not follow and the symbol thingys were made by his superiors
ResidentEddy that statement is incorrect. History is interpreted by events that actually took place. It would be impossible to completely eradicate a certain fact of history simply because you won
@@ResidentEddy If your statement is true, then its very ironic considering the West's view of the Eastern front for the entire 20th century was colored by German generals and officers, and guess what side these generals were on, the losing side.
@@kamkam12721 Except the part where they were basically in a fighting retreat as opposed to a delaying action. And the part where they were in a heavy tank instead of a Sherman with a 76mm. And the part where they were hopelessly cut off instead having a clear line of escape yet chose to fight on. And the part where all but one member of the crew is executed for "cowardice". And the part where the last remaining crew member is likely killed instead of surviving. So basically the only thing they have in common is "they were in a tank". Also, if anyone is actually surprised that Battlefield games are unrealistic then I've got to ask: "Where did you get the idea that they were?"
Special tanks shown in the video 11:00 Sherman Calliope 21:41 Behind the middle Sherman is a T26E4 Super Pershing 21:50 Sherman Easy 8 The story is great overall. It also sorta shows a thin line between "Fighting to the very end" and surrending as a whole
@@beatyoutoapulp nah its a super, you can see the flat face plate instead of the sloped on the pershings have, plus you can also see the little extended armor too
One of those cases where quality did not beat quantity. The Germans were always impressive people, may that quality continue to benefit all mankind for the better
@@ursoj1235 Dont think so. Calliope missiles were not very accurate in hitting their mark as much as they have shown in this game. Almost more than half would miss in reality.
I want a full game of this. Going from the beginning of WW2 till the bitter end. From the deserts of Northern Africa, to the snow-covered tundra of Russia, and the bombed out cities of Europe.
Imagine a ww2 game where there is two Campaign missions one for germany and one for the Russian with two different characters fighting for there country and in the end both the characters you played and grown Is attached to and face each other and you pick one of them and it gives a different outcome showing the characters who lived life after the war
Yo imagine being a German in world war II and they betray you like this on the bridge you could never trust anyone again it seem really makes you think about who you should trust and what you should believe that you're told to do
Why to Müller? He is the one who tells the story. So he can't be dead. We hear the shot but the screen went black. Maybe the one in the tank got shot by an american.
Just imagine if you had limited ammo and you could choose your own path. Once you run out, you have to abandon the tank and continue on foot. Man that would be a great game.
I'm very glad to have seen a story from the German perspective finally. For too long, we have only seen the war from the Allies perspective. That is not to say that the Germans did nothing wrong; I am not saying that at all. But to be able to delve into what was going on through the eyes of the German soldier, it was a relief. I hope that one day we will be able to have a game focused solely on the German perspective, like the mini-series Generation War. A fool's ideal, but one I hope becomes a reality
this scene is actually inaccurate, German gunners were trained to shoot the first tank on the line so that it would block the rest of the tanks behind this. i didn't like that scene at all. but it is gorgeous
This is by far the best tank campaign mission I've ever played. The story is rich, and I love how Peter began to recognise his mistakes he had made for fighting on the wrong side, or even fighting at all.
Wow. This was actually fantastic and I appreciate how all of this was actually in German. It seems this is the only war story in Battlefield 5 that lives up to Battlefield 1. The rest of this game is just very... artificial but this feels genuine. I wish the rest of the game was as good as Battlefield 1 with its story telling. Not to mention this is the only WW2 game I've seen that isn't afraid to depict the Germans equally to the allied powers. War stories in media should be told in a way to humanize all sides, not depict one side as the heroes or villains. As evil as the Nazi Regime was, there were still humans behind every front.
