It’s heartbreaking to see that Schröder would rather point his gun at Peter rather than aiming at the enemy, how he somehow thinks a deserting ally is worse than the soldiers they’re supposed to fight
That's due to conditioning and being told every day that being a deserter makes you dead. They'd rather die then give up as they won't have a home to return to; that's what was alluded in a lot of the propaganda. It also did not help that the SS arm of the government was absolutely psychopathic and went well above and beyond "Cruel and Usual" for everything they did. Sun Tsu has a lot to say about that, something that ol' Adolf never read between his hundred-thousand showers. You torment your foe, not your army as that inspires insipidness.
Desertion is pretty bad but from what I learned, hitler hammered home the idea that any form of retreat or surrender was punishable by immediate execution, they took that stuff pretty seriously I guess
Playing as the Germans in the final days of WW2 gave new perspective and is very refreshing in the oversaturated WW2 genre market. Though we have yet to have a game that we play as the Japanese or the Chinese in WW2, heck even as a Indian soldier fighting for the British. We have so many possibilities for a new story perspectives from WW2 yet we keep doing the cliché Allies good Axis bad, European - Pacific theaters and not focus on a individual story. BFV does explore some of the less known theaters and individual perspective of WW2 but I think we can do even better.
I wish they could do some guerilla fighters campaign in the pacific theaters I mean most of important mission was a success because of the guerilla tactics.
A Japanese POV would be ideal for a single-player game for an air combat game. It would make sense for the missions to be getting more and more difficult (as although the Japanese did develop some very nice fighters towards the end of the war like the Ki-84, they were still falling further and further behind)... and also since the habit of wargames of sending the player character into missions with seemingly suicidal odds could be remarked upon and integrated into the story, since that's exactly what the Japanese commanders did with their best pilots.
This mission, right in the feels with how accurate the vibe is depicted for the Wehrmacht. These young recruits completely indoctrinated with the endsieg ideal while the veterans of the Wehrmacht knew it was mostly a lost cause while SS roamed the streets, stringing up soldiers. Right in the feels. I would love a single player FPS game that lets you play as a Wehrmacht soldier on both Eastern and Western fronts.
That ending. The veteran who has seen it all and is done with the pretence. The leader who traded his iron heart as soon as his friend saw things differently. Ultimately the young boy, who hasn't even tasted war but is so indoctrinated and gullible he shoots the former two for wisening up. Such a powerful ending to this.
@@darklord7069 if your perception of how good a story is purely relies on a swastika being shown, I got a feeling you got some really, really weird priorities
@@benno._.72 i guess you skipped the part when I said both are equally trash. Swatzikas are essential to WW2 because that’s what the nazis identify with. It’s like the Americans not having the American flag which kills the vibe in being American.
So much respect to this game for not showing the german side as a total darkness… In a war,every side has it’s own mistakes even in case of war crimes. Respect to all the soldiers who fought for their homeland and freedom🖤🥲
@@seksualnaczekolada1992 to be fair the Nazi leadership invaded half of Europe, the average German was trying to, from their perspective, “save” Germany from the superpowers who won WW2 who the Germans blamed for their high unemployment rates and collapsing economy. For the average joe marching on Poland and fighting against the allies was to reclaim land previously taken from them in WW1 and prevent anymore economic extraction by the western allies.
It was like this a good few German soldiers didn’t believe in what hitler wanted or where Germany was going you all ever heard of operation valkyrie do some research before bashing history or believing everything you hear some soldiers didn’t have a choice as if you were wehrmacht either you fought or got shot the Wehrmacht and SS didn’t always meet eye to eye the SS were the true evil ones of ww2
We need more WW2 games where we play other than an allied soldier. It's always allied good, axis bad. We need to see the perspective of the axis powers and see how they were during the war, that they're still human beings.
"They're still human beings" - well, they certainly didn't treat Jews, gays, communists, the handicapped and a host of others as human beings. Nazi scum.
@@nygblue24 for gods sake. Yes, they did all that horrible stuff, but they were brainwashed by the nazi party, so they could’ve been different had they not been born in Germany 😑
@@EASAustraliaNSW LOL, what? Wow, talk about a nice copout. So they're completely innocent because they were brainwashed. They massacred and tortured millions of people, but it's all because they were brainwashed.
this is emotional, the fact that you get to be in the shoes of a german squad watching as their country and their dream of winning the war slowly deteriorates and fades away.
German WW2 game. The invasion of Poland, the invasion of France, Battle of Britain, battle of Stalingrad, Germany's perception of D-Day. Battle of the bulge. Would be a nice change.
Alternate suggestion: 1939: -Fall Weiß, Invasion of Poland (mixed infantry and tank gameplay, "Siege of Brześć" aka "Battle of Brest-Litovsk" or "Battle of the Bzura" (decisive German victory) could be included) 1940: -Unternehmen Weserübung, Invasion of Norway (infantry gameplay and naval gameplay, sinking of the HMS Glorious by battleships Scharnhorst and Gneisenau, German victory) -Fall Gelb and Fall Rot, Invasion of France (Fallschirmjäger, tank and infantry gameplay, Taking Fort Eben-Emael (Fallschirmjäger), Battle of Hannut (tanks), Battle for Stonne (infantry)) 1941: -Battle for Britain (plane action, obviously, could include the bombing of airfield RAF Detling (Ju 87 Stuka) and bomber protection (Bf 109), overall German defeat) -Battle of Brody (USSR), (major tank battle, German victory) -Battle of Kiev (infantry gameplay, German victory) OR -Battle for Moscow (infantry and tank gameplay, German defeat) -Unternehmen Merkur, Battle for Crete (Fallschirmjäger gameplay, German victory) 1942: -Attack on convoy PQ-17 (mixed submarine and plane action against Allied ship convoy on its way to the USSR, German victory) -Second Battle of El Alamein (infantry gameplay, German defeat) -Battle of Kasserine Pass (mixed infantry and tank gameplay, German victory) -German attack on Stalingrad (infantry gameplay, German victory) 1943: -Loss of 6th Army at Stalingrad (infantry gameplay, German defeat) -maybe Third Battle of Kharkov (mixed infantry and tank gameplay, German victory) -Unternehmen Zitadelle, Battle of Kursk (tank gameplay, numerous victory, overall defeat) 1944: -Operation Bagration (Battles in/near Minsk and Barysaw, possibly) (infantry and tank gameplay, German defeat) -probably a controversial idea, suppression of Warsaw uprising (infantry gameplay, German victory) -D-Day Landing (infantry gameplay, German defeat) -Battle for Villers-Bocage (Tiger tank gameplay against British armoured column, German victory) -Battle for Caen (infantry gameplay, German defeat) -Operation Market Garden (infantry and tank (Tiger II and Jagdpanther, possibly) gameplay, German victory) -Battle of the Bulge (infantry (and tank) gameplay, German defeat) 1945: -Battle for Breslau (infantry gameplay, German defeat) -Battle of Hürtgen Forest (infantry gameplay, German defeat) -Unternehmen Bodenplatte (plane ground-attack action, German pyrrhic victory) -Battle for Berlin (infantry gameplay, German defeat) -Courland Pocket (infantry gameplay, six Soviet major attacks defeated, but in the end German surrender) There are many more battles one could include, my list is completely missing the battles in Italy and the balkans. Also I'm aware these are way too many battles to include them in one game. One could also add bonus missions, such as: -Diedrich Lilienthal, in 1943 he managed to destroy seven tanks and two AT guns as well as stop an entire Soviet advance before dying due to his wounds in a field hospital -In 1945 Erwin Bachmann managed to destroy one M4 Sherman with a Panzerfaust as well as directing two PzKpfw V Panther tanks into the town of Herrlisheim (France). Bachmann managed to liberate 20 German POWs, take more than 60 American prisoners as well as destroy nine Shermans (with the Panthers) and capture twelve fully armed and fueled Shermans. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-86K0ncTkAkA.html Check 4:46 -Tiger 131's last stand 1943 in Africa against the British -1943, Battle of Kursk, Franz Staudegger and his Tiger managed to survive while fighting against 50 T-34s. Staudegger previously had destroyed two parked T-34s by tossing grenades through open hatches. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-tMDWWFKQgLQ.html -Battle for Castle Itter, I guess many of you know it, German soldiers teaming up with the Americans and French to take the Castle Itter from an SS-unit Please tell me what you think!
Every ww2 game these days is so centred around the allies, and a lot of American nationalism/patriotism. These BF5 ww2 missions as Germany really unlocked something new for me. The despair of the Germans in the last few months of the war, the bloody resistance in a city, once the seat of German power and now in ruins. It's chilling, and so much better than all of the super-patriotic trash served to us by other game developers, or even Hollywood producers
Thats because these "other" developers and "holly wood" spew out "propaganda" The first war movies were created with the intent of propaganda to convince people to commit to the "war effort" but then capitalist's seen an opportunity. So they kept making them and making them even though barely any of them told the truth, simply so they could profit from it.
TLT made Battlefield 5 feel like an actual war was happening, everything's grey and dark and grimy and burning, like BF1. Although the character growth is nothing compared to most novels it's still stunning for a video game.
Felt like Actual War where 2 Brits against an entire German Army.One tiger with unlimited health against 50-60 Sherman tanks.I highly recommend you to play COD Campaigns like COD 1,2, United Offensive,World at War. Have seen COD 2 D Day that's what I call as war
@@bh5817 says the one that actually believe on propaganda, it's the ss that is truly bad, the werhmact and the regular german soldiers was just people that truly believe that they were saving their country
I think it’s up to the viewer’s imagination. Personally I’d like to think schroeder got shot cuz it feels like muller is telling the story retrospectively.
Some of those German are heroes. They fight just to defend their country. This scene gave us new perspective that contain so much layers of emotions. May they Rest In Peace.
@@seksualnaczekolada1992 Germany and Russia were manipulated. Both world wars only existed because they didn't want Germany to allie with Russia because they would be unbeatable...
@@kaiserwilhelmii.2970 I mean that’s blatantly untrue. Ww2 happened because Germany invaded Poland, the allies didn’t force them to do so to prevent a Russian-German alliance. You sounding like you believing some post war SS propaganda….
It was the episode that I liked and touched the most for me. Personally, I think If this episode was a true or based on a true story, Muller is a front-line military leader with a great human heart. The game reflects the idea of Muller from the very beginning, a soldier who obeys his duties and orders with the belief of strictly defending his homeland even in the late stages of the war, hearing news of the retreat of the German army in many battlefields that are increasing and even though he began to realize that the way to win the war was impossible also while the morale of the troops themselves was gradually deteriorating to the point where there was one of his crew tanks leaved and make their performance in battle with stronghold tanks and their last line of defense deteriorated. Including the fact that he had to risk his life when he had to leave their turrets and strong maneuvering shields to ambush the enemy with his own hands, he was no different from just an ordinary infantryman or a civil without the arm that is ready to be the victim of all sorts of bullets every second. In the last, receiving his final order to retreat to the defense, Mueller's heart is begun to call for his true humanity. When he saw that in the place where he was summoned, there were no forces waiting for him as in the propaganda but There was only destruction, sorrow, hatred. From his fellow countrymen who lost their loved ones to the destruction and forced to fight. which is not even His tank crew that had escaped until the very end, even himself his best friend, and the mighty Tiger 237 they believed in, was abandoned by a bridge bomb to stall it, and Kerz, who abandoned the tank and was killed by an allied bullet from the young Shroder, where he was. who taught him strength from the beginning which has now become just the last frenzied machine from which it has been programmed, so that making him decide on the side of humanity and friendship. "A true soldier never leaves his fellow soldiers" "War has neither side won nor lost, no good people or bad people. But only the losers"
History was written by victors , but the same way German did their best to protect their mother land from innovators , I must say ! The both side soldiers stories are very much emotional 😭
@@sleepmnan22sleepman50 At the beginning yes but towards the end the allies were the ones attacking obviously. No matter who you are at that time these soldiers had families too. Which is why we should respect them.
cologne is my hometown i live there as long as i live. I recognize so many places like bridges and some streets even though the city was completely destroyed after the war. we rebuilt the city and it has become one of the most beautiful cities in germany
Он уже был одним из красивейших городов издавна запомни это и скажи спасибо англосаксам и американцам зато что попросту уничтожали немецкие города развлечения ради с уникальной средневековой архитектурой потому что сильного сопротивления не было могли бы обойтись без уничтожения Дрездена сокровищницы Саксонии итд итп много вопросов даже у меня русского по национальности
As a guy that loves any movie or show related to WW2 this story was amazing and emotional I never thought I will see the day I will tear up for nazis after Tom Cruise's Valkyrie but this story was just amazing also thanks for giving this masterpiece in a movie
WW2 is an example of when history isn't written by the victor, but when its actually written by the loser. It was the surviving German officeres and war criminals that had spread thier propaganda in the west in late 40s, 50s and 60s brainwashing society into believing that Germans weren't all that bad and that thier military was the greatest in the world. If you wanna learn more about it then check out the potential history guy video about it.
There is an interesting story behind those words. That’s a quote from Franz Stangl’ s last interview. Stangl was an SS officer who commanded a concentration camp (although not very well) during ‘operation reynheird’ - when the extermination camps started. Stangl was tried and imprisoned for life in 1961, but he always maintained he was just ‘following orders’. Gitta Sereny, the writer and journalist, interviewed Stangl a number of times - she was interested in how people like Stangl could do what they did and Stangl appears to have been a mild man, despite his crimes. I’ll quote Serena’s account of her last interview with him: ""But I was there", he said then, in a curiously dry and tired tone of resignation. These few sentences had taken almost half an hour to pronounce. "So yes," he said finally, very quietly, "in reality I share the guilt...Because my guilt...my guilt...only now in these talks...now that I have talked about it all for the first time..." He stopped." Stangl died of heart failure 19 hours later. That was in 1971.
@@brrrrrtenjoyer The British army was spared at Dunkirk by Hitlers orders because he wanted a peace deal with the UK. French did absolutely nothing until 1944 when Germany was already beaten. Biggest mistake in British history is allying with the French who have always been our real enemy. The biggest loser of ww2 was the UK (1939 massive empire, 1945 bankrupt and broken ). We should have stayed neutral and let Germany do whatever they wanted on mainland Europe.
@@rhysrobinson235 do many britons think like you? i was in north england as a german i sometimes had the feeling i was not liked there. Other germans had the same Feeling there.
43:18 I know I shouldn't feel bad about this, but when one loses another, you have no choice but to give up and surrender. And I cried a little when Kertz died, and Müller tried to save him. 😢
Call of Duty has much much better Campaign.Way better.And just because one war story is emotional and good doesn't make up for the boring Gameplay.And what about other War Stories?
It was actually a Panther that was left in the Battle of Cologne. Not a Tiger. A Panther is a medium sized tank. Although it took a Pershing to come in and take it out. The Panther commander had never seen a Pershing before so he told his men to hold fire. Then the Pershing destroyed it.
Возможна пантера уставшая от долгой войны просто хотела сдаться а американские новобранцев в живую увидели настоящую пантеру и успели воспользоваться ситуацией 😂😂😂
This war story really gave me a whole new perspective on the German side of things. It showed to me that in war, there is no good and bad side, no pure or evil. It showed that soldiers from all sides still experience emotion and heartache, and how they can be constantly faced with ethical and moral choices that will stick by them for the rest of their lives. Overall, this war story really lives up to itself, and makes me wish that more ww2 genera games adopt the idea of playing from axis or otherwise non allied perspectives
Imagine you need a fucking game to realise the germans werent evils, and the allies werent the good guys. There were ideas, and interests collapsing that created ww2.Neither side was bad or good.
@@kogerugaming Lol the Germans were definitely in the wrong. The Allies might not have done the right thing at all times but the Germans are those who visited conquest and oppression upon other nations, committed a genocide against the Jews and spread across Europe fighting and killing. If the German's had not invaded other nations, there would not have been a war.
@kogerugaming The real evil ones are the Generals and the leaders who start the wars and send the soldiers to do their bidding. " _Ideals are peaceful, history is violent_ " - Wardaddy, Fury
@@kogerugaming my grandpa buried 200+ bodies, an entire town, who were killed by the retreating german forces in Italy. they gathered the people inside the church and shot them. the priest of my city went to find my grandpa a former lieutenant and asked him to accompany him to see what had happen in the near town. this happened because some partisans had shot 2 german soldiers in the woods that week. that's all i have to know from a first witness perspective
The system to check outside for good visibility is dangerous for the commander. And each time he opens and closes the hatch I wonder why no sniper shoot him. 🤷🏻
Rockets were blowing on the tank with him standing outside and he didnt care. Tank is repared in 5 seconds to 100%. This is shit not war game. Arcade fun for kiddos
Battle of cologne, in cologne without the cologne cathedral… Right in the beginning, driving over the Hohenzollern bridge… there has to be the cathedral.
Командир тигра помудрел в последние дни а до этого он столько танков уничтожил пока не остался последним тигром. Как будто он из засад не уничтожал колонны союзников и не давил советскую пехоту в окопах с холодным цинично довольным лицом. Конечно судить все можно но на войне у каждого своя правда и каждый выживает по своему. Вот это и выразило это замечательная игра. Игре удалось передать дух поздних германских панцерваффе их умение воевать в меньшинстве и при этом выживать и наносить союзникам очень много урона а концовка просто настолько сурова и правильна как вся суть нашей жизни. Бог войны бы просто не дал бы бывалым ветеранам профессиональным воякам отобравшим за всю войну у многих матерей и жен сыновей и мужей выжить, ведь столько горя принес этот экипаж Тигра разным семьям из разных народов. Ведь за все надо платить в этой жизни. А земля круглая.
@Hikikomori San The Allied Powers in the First World War never really fought for democratic reasons: it was mostly about gaining territory and bragging rights. The War Guilt Clause made German citizens ripe for exploitation by Hitler and the Nazis
Forgetting that Gameplay is just One Norwegian girl,2 Brits,One Tiger Tank battleing against an entire Army atleast Vanguard's Backstory of Characters had large set piece battles like Battle of Midway, Stalingrad,Etc.Besides the story of Last Tiger (good one) the gameplay is just Boring point and click.
What a great game. I enjoyed this from the German perspective. I agree with others. Playing as only the ally’s gets old. I also enjoyed playing as the red army. Hope more games like this are made.
@@keeshans5768 and it was the Germans who burned Jews alive in death camps and fertilized their fields with ashes. Collective responsibility means that if you did not actively fight the Reich - you were an accomplice to its crimes. Surviving 1945 Germans understood that. You, obviously, do not.
This shows we can get a good gameplay and story from the "enemy" perspective without all the Hollywood cliche's. EDIT : The brainwashed kid got shot by the Grease guns. Peter Muller went to the U.S and his grandson, Miller from BF3 (the tanker who got captured and killed).
I had a huge empire, we lost everything and everything, I don't know if we can go back to our old days, to all the people who lost their families in the wars Respect From The Ottoman Empire
In 5 to 10 years or less there will be few actors in movies, as movies will be computer generated like this but even more real. No arrogant actors to deal with and Hollywood will be dead.
That quote at the beggining is something many times omitted from history, by the end in all fronts Germans were retreating not by straight defeat but lack of ammunition. By 1945 German factories were dismantling planes for their raw material (added the fact that fuel was scarce too) Truly an army defeated by no one, but by the union of entire super powers.
@@lesdodoclips3915 Not before crushing all of mainland europe, and nearly demolishing the USSR. If not for the lend lease from the U.S.A and the UK stalin would've committed suicide.
This campaign was the only one I played the whole way through. It's one of the best ones. The rest of Battlefield 5's campaigns are trash or aren't worth playing.
