I actually liked their "relationship" in the first film. Their scene at Hoover dam told me so much of Megatron and Starscream's dynamic. It's like a more gritty version of Armada Megatron and Starscream. "I tried to to gain favor from you, but nothing was ever good enough. Not matter how many victories I brought, you ALWAYS focused on my faults." This is how I saw Starscream and Megatron in the first film Starscream at the start is a VERY competent warrior, doesn't waste time with theatrics or monologuing, is methodical and doesn't waste movement or shots. He actually puts in calculated and serious effort. A true Decepticon and warrior. The problem for Starscream is that for all his accomplishments (which are considerable), Megatron is just WAY better. And this makes Megatron have absurd standards for Starscream that must be met, and yet despite Starscream's best efforts to do so, the times that he fails are more recognized than his victories, frustrating the Decepticon Seeker Air Commander to end, making the Decepticon SIC more bitter to Megatron, creating tension between the two. (Then all that was washed away in the second and third films)
Bayverse canon explanation here. *The reason why Starscream had a different voice on the first film is according to one of the novels, Starscream still has yet to learn English, still preferred Cybertronian.*
@@superbodoque7860 thats one thing i like about bayverse starscream is that he speaks cybertronian now whilst most decepticons do he does it the most it shows that decepticons like hit dislike humanity and want to rule it whilst the auto bots prefer english and defend the humans
The Autobots were fluent in English after being on Earth for not even a full day, and Optimus explains they learned Earth languages through the internet. Starscream presumably was on Earth for longer than they were, so it's likely he was already fluent in English too. However the Decepticons would've looked down on Earth languages and only used them when necessary. His voice in the next two films was actually closer to his G1 voice, higher pitched and whiny. I have no idea why he still spoke in a deep growling voice in Cybertronian, but spoke in his high pitched nasally voice in English.
I love that in this they don't make starscream a coward. But he can actually fight. At 0:51 was able to fight several autobots at once and come out victorious.
Starscream could always fight, there have been many moments in different Transformers media where he's been shown to stand his ground - he just typically knows when to back down when the odds are stacked against him. It's even been shown in these films that he'll run off when the Autobots have the turning point.
@@creativezay-tv9ysNot sure what version of Rotf you watched man but he was Megatron's side most of the way. Even doing a significant amount of damage to Optimus before he got beaten back (if you count deleted scenes). If you were referring to the end of the movie where Optimus was fighting against Megatron and the Fallen however, well that fight was significantly shorter than the forest battle so even if Megatron had time to call in reinforcements, he would've still lost, which meant Starscream potentially dying and on that note, you're right.
@@holoqofholoqqia9503i agree and i find starscream very smart for knowing when its not the time to fight i remember him being on the piramid as well i think and when he saw op infinity stoned optimus prime flying toward them at 1000 kmh he said fuck this shit and ghosted himself
One thing I always loved about Bay Starscream is that, despite looking like a Dorito shaped metallic monstrosity, he’s easily one of the most graceful flyers out of all the Starscreams. Always twisting n somersaulting and he always sticks the landing. You’d think he’d struggle to move just by his looks but nope. Majestic as a bird
Things about Bayverse Starscream I actually like: - his first (English) voice line. It’s very garbled and alien and I kind of wish that was his voice for the rest of the movies. (His second English voice line is what his voice actually sounds like for the first movie, though. It’s not bad, either.) - the fact that he constantly speaks Cybertronian. He’s the only one to consistently do so. - whenever he’s not doing anything, he’s perching somewhere. Usually nearby Megatron. Giant metal bird. - he seems to really like being in the air. He mostly attacks from above, perches, and is usually up high on a building or ledge instead of on the ground - he fly!!! I really wish more Transformers shows would allow him to be the terror of the skies instead of constantly on the ground. - he can actually win a fight. Pls let Starscream win more fights I am BEGGING - the implication that he is raising like a truckload of sparklings/hatchlings. Where did they come from? Why does he have them? Why does he seem to be the only one actually worried about them?? Hello???? -WOMP WOMP WOMP WOMP - the fact that he’s constantly near Megatron. A two for one Decepticon deal! -“come here, *boy”* (has the same energy as “not so fast, papa!”) -THAT LITTLE LOOP THING THAT HE DID AROUND MEGATRON WHEN HE FIRST LANDED!! (In their first scene together, it’s kinda fast but you can see Starscream come from the top left, fly under Megatron, and loop back behind him once Mega hit the ground)
the areal fight with the fleet of raptors was by far the most memorable fight in the first movie mostly because there are no distracting random explosions around it. Sure the camera's a tad too close but at least its not shaking or focusing on any human while the main attraction is in the background. you obviously can tell starscream jumps off one while shooting another, tears off a wing and spins it out of control with his bare hand/claw, transforms into jet mode, one raptor lands a missile on him, transforms back, swipes at it and misses, transforms back and boosts through. i still remember seeing it in the cinema back in 07, it kicked so much ass.
I love the live action starscream, even if he's an ugly dorito and kind of disrespects his G1 version, he's a very good starscream for me, and I wish he had more screentime or had appeared in tf 4 or even 5, dying on one of those of course
@@falius9878 I didn't like it either with his silly chicken legs. I grew up with armada starscream, and i didn't mind the choice of an F-22 raptor since that was his vehicle of choice in energon. But there wasn't one bad starscream scene in the first movie at all that they made up for the design. I guess we could also at least be thankful they kept him being so submissive around Megs and somewhat wanting to be a leader which is more than i can say for the likes of the other decepticons who don't have character in these movies. seriously we need more decepticon scenes heck make a movie of them, that sounds more fun.
I’m so happy to see others share my love of this character, nobody I talk to seems to like him, but movie Starscream is so cool in so many ways. I really like the first post in this thread, all the little details for screamer are amazing!
He’s still kinda badass in the other movies. He just sucks up the megatron while hoping and kind of plotting to be the leader of the decepticons. It’s always been his character for the most part and it feels off when he’s not like that.
You do realize that “Megatron’s cowardly punching bag” has been Starscream’s thing since G1 right? And on top of that he’s right back to being dangerous in Dark of the Moon.
Мне тоже нравится как они говорят на своем кибертронском) эти искаженные голоса, какие то выкрики, скрежет металла, и чего то инопланетного. мммм рай для ушей
All these years ago I've watched the 3 transformers movies and I didn't realise until now how good starscream's line was from TF2. "Not to call you a coward master, But sometimes cowards do survive" It's the way he said it, It's just perfect. 😎
@@tvalokibatman6563 I would actually Riot if my favourite character died. Seriously though his death in DOTM was absolutely humiliating, Like most people said "he was tougher in Transformers 1 but fans made noise because his character in TF1 didn't match his Cowardly nature in the rest of the series. If anyone should have killed him it should have always been Megatron 👆💯 I really miss him BAD!! man, i also miss the Dreads, Soundwave, Rampage, Ravage, Mixmaster, Scorponok and Demolisher. 🙁👆👆 I just hope they make more transformers games for current gen, im literally dying for more transformers games but if they don't it might not bother me so much because im going back to PS3 at some point when i can get one so i can play those transformers games i didn't play years ago. Btw there is a new Transformers game coming up, the Beta will be sometime in October (2022). There is Gameplay on RU-vid of it aswell, just hoping thet add some of the other bayverse deceptions including Starscream 😂
@@xi754 maybe have Megatron kill him as retaliation for an attempt at usurping him. That way we see all aspects of the character represented in the films. First movie showed us why he reached his current position in the first place, second showed us the sniveling, skidplate kissing coward he truly is whenever things aren't in his favor, and third could have been his treasonous nature getting him killed like it always does in the end
Starscream is such a sadist. You can see so many cases where Starscream would show active enjoyment in tormenting lesser beings and because of that intoxicating thought that he’s the superior creature compared to the being he’s tormenting, it causes him to fail, like when he’s chasing Sam in Dark of The Moon. He purposely toys with Sam and Carly while chasing them just to terrify them before killing them. That ultimately caused his downfall. Had he just fired a missile upon them or shot them with his machine gun turret, he would’ve survived, killed Sam and moved on. Maybe then we would’ve seen him in the new movies. I sometimes wonder what an Age of Extinction and Last Knight Starscream design would look like.
he's never shown to be a sadist prior to his garbage death scene stop trying to justify that trash they only gave starscream such a pathetic death scene because they view him as a name not character. he was infinitely better than megatron until his death
Megatron: “U LEFT ME TO DIE ON THAT PATHETIC INSECT PLANET” Starscream: “oNLy tO hElP sWoRn oUr nEW aRMy, aFtEr aLL oF uR aBsEnCe sOmEoNE hAd tO tAkE cOmMaNd Megatron: *Chokeslams Starscream*
@@grandmasterg8572 future advice, don’t say it like it’s confirmed cannon as that’s a fun fan theory that I myself like to consider cannon but it’s not confirmed
I like both versions of his voice. His first is more intimidating and his second is way more conniving and gremlin like. Also his design for the jet evolving with the cybertronian symbols were sick
I enjoy the fact that Star Scream's voice was changed from what it originally sounded like in the first film. In movie 1 he just sounds like a generic decepticon, more or less just a higher version of Megatron's voice, but then in 2 and 3 they give him his proper voice.
I disagree. His voice was superior in the 2007 movie as opposed to the rest of the series imo. I dislike Starscream being a weaselly little bitch and prefer his badassery in the first film.
@@truexenith8596 I wish he could've been a bit of both. They nerfed him down so much because g1 fans kept whining. I dont really think the coward trope works in the later films he was in, though
7:49 Dude I JUST got this reference. I don’t know how I didn’t notice this before but this scene is in reference to G1 where megatron sat in the chair in the Lincoln memorial here. The only difference is that in g1 megatron didn’t shoot Lincoln’s statue.
@@Gatitobonito898 people always give starscream crap for dying like he did and I say to that, you try getting your eye crushed between three very sharp claws on a grappling hook meant to climb buildings and then get your eye yanked out of your own socket and keep pulling as ya freak out in pain ;-;
@@kuznapi ngl i like his new one better mainly cuz in tf1 his voice sounds like how he speaks cybertronian its badass but the second one sounds better because it sounds like a starscream that would be cowardly and something that fits him
Sam Witwicky's Character: Grandfather discovered Megatron and the coordinates of the All Spark Cube making this part of his bloodline after it being passed down, Bumblebee becomes his first car and becomes part of the All Spark itself in the 2nd movie. Cade's character: *I fix truck and truck save me and I use Knight sword*
4:17 Starscream: MY ARM!! fred the fish: MY LEG! Both: *look at each other with awkward scilence* Starscream: well, at least your little insect leg didnt get chopped off by an autobot!! Fred: and at least you dont break as many legs as i do! Starscream: yes, i do suppose thats true
9:24 so I see everyone give starscream crap for dying how he does here, I’m gonna dissect it- first he stammers as his eye is impaled on three paper thin blades that all go into the center of his eye, and ontop of that three prongs all impale his eye and then slowly yet painfully his eye is yanked out of his socket After what is likely a horrifically painful experience he flails around in pain which is understandable before jumping up on a building and trying to punch sam and then just hold onto the building before he loses his grip causing him to stumble backwards onto the other building before he manages to grab hold of the wire and tries to less painfully yank it out of his literal EYE- I admit that him randomly stumbling backwards and into the building again not even trying to scratch the hook out of his eye or grab the wire/Sam seemed a bit unnecessary even if he was still in pain it wouldn’t have been enough to make him stumble right there if I had to bet, but then he flies up likely trying to fling Sam off since he does a quick spin but either he has a internal problem preventing him from flying into the air to get Sam off, or he’s just not thinking about the situation enough and stops flying when the wire likely pulls harder because of Sam being stuck in the building as screamer pulls away and then gets ambushed and shot with armor piercing rounds since normal bullets don’t do anything to cybertronians which is common knowledge at this rate for the army- As scream is being shot from the ground below him and turned into a pincushion he also gets a missile to the shoulder while still having his eye yanked harder because of the wire and where it is pulling on starscreams eye harder as it bends and can’t extent more as Sam is behind starscream kinda making starscream stuck unless he turns around and gets Sam out of the building, when Sam jumps onto a staggered scream and then clings to his face scream doesn’t know what to do since he has a human just hanging onto his face now and the amount of pain from the missile and bullets and his eye is likely adding up, Sam then stabs a decently large bomb into screams other eye completely blinding him making him understandably freak out in pain and fear/stress that he’s blind as Sam still hangs onto him and he now has no idea where he is, not to mention again all the damage even now minor the bullets were are adding up in pain causing scream to flip and lose it completely as he begins panicking and now Lennox hangs onto the wire with sam adding more weight and pulling harder on screams still barely attached eye while he struggles and bangs his face on the ground in a desperate attempt to get the two objects one of which is rapidly beeping adding to his panic as it’s obviously a bomb- scream scratches his face to get them out of his eyes but fails and just curses the humans in frustration and starts seemingly getting loopy and light headed likely from energon loss or something similar since his eyes are either being yanked out or are now gone entirely, he then stumbles and while still blind flies up but has no idea where he is in relation to his surroundings so he just lands on the corner of the building and tries to sit up straight as the bomb beeps quicker and starscream tries again to get the hook out of his eye along with the bomb while angrily and in a seemingly confused state cursing the humans before he ends up dying mid sentence Summary : scream was caught off guard and at first in agony and panicking as the pain in his eye slowly but surely got worse until he was ambushed and had bullets and missiles and the hook pull even harder on his eye leaving him confused, panicking, and stunned and staggered before sam suddenly grabs onto screams face and hangs on surprising and catching him off guard before his other eye is completely destroyed by the bomb being jammed in there making it pop out of socket and destroying whatever wires are still in there making him blind causing scream to lose it and panic while angrily screaming and cursing the humans out as the beeping of the bomb lodged in his eye makes his panic worse not to mention his infused seemingly making him loopy and more unfocused in a sense as he stumbles in pain before flying but not knowing where he is making him land and then did as he tries to claw the stuff out of his eyes in panic and frustration, screamer died because he was caught off guard, in pain, confused and then ambushed leading to a lot of pain and panicking on on his part before he loses all concentration in pain and is blinded completely and just loses his mind
4:32 Megatron: that went well Starscream: we've lost the boy master the Autobots must be shielding their signals Megatron: I can't even rely on you Starscream: sorry no Megatron: what a simple insect Starscream: one insect among seven billion Megatron: shut up Starscream: it could be anywhere Megatron: then we will force them to find him for us it's time for the world to know of our presence no more disguises no mercy time has come for my master's arrival
@@rhysofsneezingdragon1758they wanted to download the data from his head first and study his schematics n shit before melting it straight away (also partially due to him being one of the top ranking Decepticons)
Man, the personality kept growing across the trilogy. In the first his 2 lines are those of a servant. In the second he displays cowardice and sadism. In the third he sounds like a servant again (with a bit of sass) and just in his death scene he was just dripping with sadistic mockery, fear and pain and a lot of anger. Long live the flying dorito.
The main one I see missing is a clip from the Forest Battle seen in the only IMAX version of TF2, you can probably find it on youtube. It's a small extension of the Forest Battle where Optimus is getting pushed around by the Decepticons right before Megatron's kick to the face. Starscream noticeably uses his saw on Optimus in the clip.
Idk but I always loved how starscream flew away in the post credits scene. Probably because it shows there's another movie. Why else would screamer go into space?
Imagine if future movies choose to continue the trend of Starscream’s spark being indestructible-He will probably have been fully aware of everything….including megatron holding his head and lamenting his death in the last knight. And he will probably never stop teasing him about it when/if he returns. Here’s how I think their reunion would go after the reveal. Starscream: “IT APPEARS YOU VALUE ME MORE THAN YOU LIKE TO ADMIT.” Megatron: “What are you blathering about?!” Starscream: “A FEW YEARS AGO, I HEARD YOU REFER TO ME AS YOUR ‘TREACHEROUS FRIEND.’” Megatron: *sigh* “You have always been a terrible liar, Starscream.” Starscream: “NOT EVEN DEATH CAN KEEP ME FROM SERVING YOU, LORD MEGATRON! HOWEVER, I CAN’T HELP BUT WONDER WHAT THE TROOPS WOULD THINK IF THEY LEARNED ABOUT YOUR LITTLE MOMENT OF…..COMPASSION.” Megatron: “Ha! They will never find out.” Starscream: “THE ENTIRE CONVERSATION IS RECORDED IN MY DATABANKS. IT WOULD BE A SHAME IF SOMEONE GOT AHOLD OF IT.” Megatron: *angrily grabs Starscream by the throat* Starscream: *frantically* “HYPOTHETICALLY SPEAKING, OF COURSE! I WOULDN’T DREAM OF TRYING TO BLACKMAIL YOU!!!” Megatron: “Well, hypothetically speaking-if I find out you have told even one decepticon about it, I will kill you a second time and use your corpse as my throne! Do I make myself clear?” Starscream: “Y-YES, I UNDERSTAND COMPLETELY!” Megatron: *releases Starscream from his grip before leaving to spread the word of his resurrection* Starscream: “NEVER CHANGE, LORD MEGATRON. NEVER CHANGE.”
right it's fucking insulting they were throat deep on g1 nerds in that movie. he was the only decepticon doing anything in the first two and that was their way of apologizing.
Especially knowing he could last more than 10 seconds around optimus just for him to be killed this way, because thats how michael bay script strategy works make a good character like tf1 megatron, starscream shockwave soundwave ironhide jazz ratchet sentinel lockdown +10 other good exaples and kill them in the worst way possible just to get a good explosion or a brutal optimus streak kill compilation because thats all he is thinking about explosions and i bet for a fact spielberg wanted to give us what we want since he knows how to make good movies but what does michael bay do? He shits on what we like and says "it doesnt have enough explosion or shitty ass humans characters having no connexions to the story" like bruhhhhhhh.....
@@BevalidinCambodia starscream was a good character the rest of them you mentioned besides lockdown sucked. but you're right. he views the characters as names not characters
@@BevalidinCambodia the first thing we learn about him is that he crash landed on earth after abandoning his soldiers, his only command to any decepticon is only to starscream and that command is "get them" starscream is the first decepticon to act in the final battle while megatron arrives late guess he was taking a nap, the first thing he does is kill the baby sized autobot and fly off he fails to catch a human on foot he doesn't lead his soldiers and his fight with optimus sucks
Idk if it's my favourite line, but I really do love the way he says and gestures, "Oh I just love it when your little, insect feet, try, to run!" with his fingers mimicking the walking motion
Love starscream in these movies, especially DOTM where he had more voice lines and personality. My favorite part is MY EYE! I CANT SEE I CANT SEE!! IM GONNA KICK YOU
I've always seen starscream as tactful, a brilliant second in command, but is always full of himself. If it weren't for his constant chase for leadership, and if he'd just focus on mastering his position, he could have a good chance in taking over.
Agreed, to bad he didn't have more screen time and things to actually do in these movies. Every time I hear his Starscream though I'm constantly reminded of Mr Whiskers and Buster Bunny 😄.
something about watching starscream do a maneuver in an F-22 that the real aircraft might actually be able to pull off then transforming and immediately engaging enemies is so satisfying
Megatron gets beheaded, comes back to life in the next movie. Starscream gets beheaded, still dead 2 movies later. Bit unfair, not gonna lie. Here’s hoping Starscream gets to become a ghost like in G1/Beast Wars and the Unicron Trilogy.
Agree totally, he was such a badass, and believable as Mega's 2nd in command. His voice was intimidating, also how deadly he was to be able to take on three autobots simultaneously. Even in the first movie before the city battle, Ironhide shouts "it's Starscreeeeeam!!" and you know shit's about to get real.
Megatron scared me so much as a kid. When I went upstairs to get some stuff. I would run fast downstairs because I would imagine that he was chasing me.!😂