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BB packing problem on a cylinder (& the water paraboloid) 

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This video is about using and constructing a spinning tube that can demonstrate centrifugal force, sphere packing, and crystal structure. The BBs will form a lattice around the cylinder when a simple spin technique is applied.
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Комментарии : 209   
@Nighthawkinlight
@Nighthawkinlight 7 лет назад
That was an awesome opening shot. I've seen that sort of fluid rotation experiment before, but never with the camera fixed to the subject. Really interesting
@pocket83
@pocket83 7 лет назад
Thanks. There's more about that jig on my second channel. Link is on the footnote. This could be amazing stuff, given the right equipment.
@Nighthawkinlight
@Nighthawkinlight 7 лет назад
If you do this same thing with a more viscus fluid like corn syrup you should be able to reverse the rotation and bring the dispersal back to it's original state
@pocket83
@pocket83 7 лет назад
Corn syrup is an interesting idea... Ha! As for putting the cereal back in the box, I'm afraid entropy is always increasing. But at least we can reverse our footage!
@obi-wankenobi9871
@obi-wankenobi9871 7 лет назад
NightHawkInLight You can also just fill a watetbottle half way and spin it on the table.
@TVA1814DeltaIII
@TVA1814DeltaIII 7 лет назад
NightHawkInLight Centrifugal force is fake btw.
@zone613
@zone613 6 лет назад
Finally found a RU-vidr with unique content. More than that there is science in it. So I'm in. 👍
@maxximumb
@maxximumb 2 года назад
I love the opening shot and the food colouring showing the Coriolis force creating the vorticities in the water, similar to how weather systems work in our atmosphere.
@techminer6686
@techminer6686 7 лет назад
whats with the creepy red frogs
@TatsukiHashida
@TatsukiHashida 7 лет назад
Techminer where
@pmo580
@pmo580 6 лет назад
i have seen something like this in other videos.... very strange
@bassnbluegill1406
@bassnbluegill1406 6 лет назад
What
@kendragon7
@kendragon7 6 лет назад
Looks like a bunch of red Zuma frogs
@UncleTacoBell
@UncleTacoBell 6 лет назад
I’ve seen these split second frames in most of his vids. Not sure what’s up with that
@nukenvy2
@nukenvy2 7 лет назад
If the spinning objects are not glued down in anyway then you sir are the master of centering
@pocket83
@pocket83 7 лет назад
I found exact center of the acrylic box by connecting the diagonals underneath. I put a pin-prick mark there, which I could still see from the top side. I spun the wheel to find the exact center point, and then I just lined those two points up ;)
@MadOnions
@MadOnions 7 лет назад
Wow that opening scene is amazing. I didn't expect three separate vortexes or for them to be visible for so long. If the bottom of the jar wasn't visible I would be completely stumped! Thank you for the time and effort put into the video!
@adamfrench9566
@adamfrench9566 7 лет назад
So glad to see you back pocket ive been rewatching lots of your videos
@Dapstart
@Dapstart 7 лет назад
Your videos are so well thought out. Props to you for such amazing quality and presentation :^)
@__shifty
@__shifty 7 лет назад
you should put a backboard around the frame so we dont have the constant swooshing background flashing through the water. it'd be easier to see what's going on here if the only thing you could see "moving" is the water
@cosmicjenny4508
@cosmicjenny4508 7 лет назад
*Now* my Saturday afternoon is complete... Cheers!
@tsthebeav
@tsthebeav 6 лет назад
I love this channel
@Crowborn
@Crowborn 6 лет назад
This channel is so interesting!
@reubprue8602
@reubprue8602 4 года назад
You are like the math, art and science teacher I never had. I had a great wood-shop teache , can't complain there. Wow! Just think how smart and creative kids would come out of school if you were a teacher, providing you could pry them from your class. lol If you could line the cylinder wall with wax paper and spin them really fast while wet with epoxy, you might be able to make a bee bee cylinder. That could be curiously cool!
@m.emrahozkaya9903
@m.emrahozkaya9903 7 лет назад
very fun to look at, thanks for sharing.
@OliverKrystal
@OliverKrystal 7 лет назад
Another Tryad fan!
@necromanticer169
@necromanticer169 7 лет назад
To make it easier to spin the BB's into a perfect row, why not fill the container to the top with rows of BB's? If none of the BB's can start a new row beyond the acrylic topper, they should have an easier time settling into the gaps in the formation.
@pocket83squared
@pocket83squared 7 лет назад
The surplus just ends up on its floor. I found that I got better results with the reduced amount. They need room to space out a bit before settling.
@Makebuildmodify
@Makebuildmodify 7 лет назад
Great project! Thanks!
@Felisargyle
@Felisargyle 7 лет назад
You should put watermarks I feel like these satisfying clips would be stollen and put on instagram.
@shittymcshittingson7125
@shittymcshittingson7125 6 лет назад
The audio of the intro sounds like Tessa Brook's phone. Great video.
@Nintencrow
@Nintencrow 6 лет назад
Super cool intro, dude!
@4ffff2ee
@4ffff2ee 6 лет назад
Wish you had included build video anyway, I'm not going to build anything anyway, but I just like to watch them.
@Makebuildmodify
@Makebuildmodify 7 лет назад
Tessellated tadpoles....On a hyperbolic plane too. Very appropriate considering you last few experiments.
@UnknownMaster21
@UnknownMaster21 7 лет назад
I did enjoy this video a lot! I do remember a puzzle game where the object was cube and had 16 balls/marbles inside and mission was to put them on corners, 4 on each. ( 3-dimensional L shape ). Also some variations have seen. But nothing like this "hard". Video about all water in corners is and will always be amazing! ( Also when no background spinning, creating illusion. )
@pocket83squared
@pocket83squared 7 лет назад
Ok: we could do this in a barrel, so that you can't see the spinning. We then orient the cube so that it sits on just one corner/vertex. The liquid would go to the four corners! Viral video, here we come!
@jacklikens2555
@jacklikens2555 7 лет назад
Why do you put those weird photos in your videos just a very brief moment
@bas2362
@bas2362 7 лет назад
Please make another one but with really good bearings!
@ZevHoover
@ZevHoover 7 лет назад
Pocket, if you were to spin up the water with the dye, stop the wheel and then spin it the opposite way could you unmix the dye back to its start state? controlling for temp and air turbulence might be a must but it could be really cool.
@pocket83
@pocket83 7 лет назад
Yes, but it's still hard to get the little drop of dye back inside the bottle.
@bigchooch4434
@bigchooch4434 6 лет назад
Science???????????
@White-ul3dl
@White-ul3dl 6 лет назад
pocket83 just pour the water with the ink in Then boil the water
@bluejai4212
@bluejai4212 6 лет назад
pocket83 probably the best comment response I’ve read in a long time.
@JeremyCook
@JeremyCook 6 лет назад
That is pretty rad... Somehow it all comes back to hexagons :-)
@christopheracha1896
@christopheracha1896 7 лет назад
wish you could upload more your videos are really interesting
@pocket83
@pocket83 7 лет назад
Thanks. It's hard to do. It takes discipline to stay motivated! I always have another one in the works, though.
@ianmburke
@ianmburke 7 лет назад
Instead of tipping it get them to form the the side walls could you use and magnet held closely to the outside edge while spinning then pull the magnet away before it slows ??
@Steve.Garrison
@Steve.Garrison Год назад
That's awesome! I like how the dye was stirred by the inertia of the water as it began spinning. I wonder if you could do more than one layer of BB's if you poured them in while it's spinning? I like the ammonite print fabric too.
@ElusiveCube
@ElusiveCube 7 лет назад
awesome.
@BigerBoy
@BigerBoy 7 лет назад
Try the water in the cube spinning thing ,but totally covered. That you can't see the background spinning. So it will make a illusion that the water is raising on its own.
@RiskyStrats
@RiskyStrats 7 лет назад
Looks like Mario wants to take that thing for a spin
@heather19515
@heather19515 7 лет назад
RiskyStrats ?
@terrorfirma2764
@terrorfirma2764 7 лет назад
Ive polished the edge of acrylic before by sanding with a fine grit paper then warming up the edge with a blow lamp.
@jsincoherency
@jsincoherency 5 лет назад
Could you make a parabolic telescope mirror by putting some resin in a container and spinning it up while it sets, painting it with some mirror effect spray paint, and polishing the surface?
@White-ul3dl
@White-ul3dl 6 лет назад
That's a cool table Do you spin on it regularly?
@flyTomaz
@flyTomaz 7 лет назад
What if you put so many BBs that they touch the top cover and you'll get perfect coverage almost all the time :)
@pocket83
@pocket83 7 лет назад
It doesn't work as well. They just spill back on to the "floor." It seems to work best with a little bit of room for them to space out.
@argoylegargyle
@argoylegargyle 7 лет назад
You can get clear furniture grade pvc pipe on home depot's website
@pocket83
@pocket83 7 лет назад
Thanks! Great tip. I was unaware.
@SMD_N_LMB
@SMD_N_LMB 7 лет назад
Got yourself the next figet spinner.
@_waymin
@_waymin 7 лет назад
Lmao what was with the random frame of Zuma?
@jacobstewart431
@jacobstewart431 6 лет назад
It’s been two months since your last video! I need some pocket83 or 83 to the second in my life 😫
@raybin2086
@raybin2086 6 лет назад
Planning on doing anything new soon.
@daveprice5911
@daveprice5911 7 лет назад
Why do you have weird images like the red one with the frogs flash in your videos?
@imyth4475
@imyth4475 7 лет назад
3:17 it said not fastened down, is the yellow things in the corners not sticky tack?
@ethanbrock5438
@ethanbrock5438 7 лет назад
It's just a grip, just like the one that would come on your laptop or (Sometimes) your your TV remote
@thackdaddy69
@thackdaddy69 7 лет назад
What was up with the fight club style flash of clown heads?
@adondriel
@adondriel 6 лет назад
Yo, can you do that thing you did at the front, but with white and blue dye, in resin... so, while it's spinning it is also curing.... might look really cool.
@l3varnu
@l3varnu 6 лет назад
after a bit of searching i found a 4" OD Diameter Clear Acrylic Plexiglass Lucite Tube 3 3/4" ID 8" Inch Length you think that would work well for this? that would give 1/4" wall thickness
@jdniedner
@jdniedner 7 лет назад
Variac/rheostat? that you use on your sander to slow it down, would it work to more smoothly control your potters wheel? This is all great stuff!
@pocket83
@pocket83 7 лет назад
But it already is smooth. I think the choppiness is the unavoidable result of extending a 12" head to 40". A different machine/motor would be in order, if we were to continue chasing better results.
@kastro4460
@kastro4460 7 лет назад
at first I thought it was some kind of weird hi-cap airsoft magazine 😂
@Luggious
@Luggious 7 лет назад
Good video, made me dizzy though!
@ritzygamer6456
@ritzygamer6456 6 лет назад
What was the top speed there
@fgtldyjxgzyjxriceicr9880
@fgtldyjxgzyjxriceicr9880 7 лет назад
First commenter😀 love ur vids
@somerandom7063
@somerandom7063 7 лет назад
0:30 YOU MADE A F@!$? TIME MACHINE XDDDDDDDDDDD
@B.McAllister
@B.McAllister 5 лет назад
With the paraboloid with water, do it with resin and spin it until it sets.
@harryptter-zm6qq
@harryptter-zm6qq 7 лет назад
That creepy red frogs omg
@jbw5485
@jbw5485 6 лет назад
harry p0tter123 what the heck was up with that?
@tntcake6327
@tntcake6327 3 года назад
Ahaha i guessed that you just put it on its side while spinning but thought it was probably against the rules. Didnt think about making it stand straight again though
@chrisj403
@chrisj403 7 лет назад
MIAM! la sirop dérable!
@paul1s1
@paul1s1 6 лет назад
I.Threw.Up.
@smellycat249
@smellycat249 7 лет назад
Hahaha! What a crazy easter egg
@stufitz5502
@stufitz5502 7 лет назад
Corners?
@AtlasReburdened
@AtlasReburdened 7 лет назад
Ok, so I'm at 1:44 and you asked the question. The answer is to spin it up while its in free fall.
@DavidLeeKersey
@DavidLeeKersey 6 лет назад
You can get clear schedule 40 pvc it's just expensive AF.
@TheChipmunk2008
@TheChipmunk2008 7 лет назад
Confirmed, the motor thingies from old microwaves are PTFE... good source of it if you can find a microwave old enough
@DryLog420
@DryLog420 6 лет назад
Magnetism could have been used instead of gravity... Although gravity probably works better and is easier to find... Nice project and demonstration dude
@The1wsx10
@The1wsx10 7 лет назад
1:56 i thought that bucket was in the background
@pez-fpv7369
@pez-fpv7369 6 лет назад
Wow
@brainsfordinner7196
@brainsfordinner7196 7 лет назад
Wait, how many kilograms are in 1.25 16ths?
@hgw90026
@hgw90026 7 лет назад
Fill the cylinder with enough BBs line the whole cylinder wall from bottom to top.
@pocket83
@pocket83 7 лет назад
Ummm, the floor! I found that it worked best when they had room to space themselves out.
@StatsMeanPoopGaming
@StatsMeanPoopGaming 7 лет назад
Could anyone else change the direction that the table was spinning just by thinking about it?
@sumfayhashay5696
@sumfayhashay5696 6 лет назад
0:30 welp, there goes your footage copyrights
@prich0382
@prich0382 7 лет назад
Was the inch>cm meant to tell us you prefer Imperial?
@pocket83
@pocket83 7 лет назад
Nahh, not really. Inches are actually larger than centimeters, but that was just a jab at the Metric crowd. I never expected them to become so enraged over a joke. I had to delete all of the hostile comment strings.
@cgarzs
@cgarzs 7 лет назад
Aww I missed the argument? I do love a good Imperial vs Metric fight lol.
@enzomorales2546
@enzomorales2546 6 лет назад
cm > inch
@pocket83
@pocket83 6 лет назад
No, that is factually incorrect.
@enzomorales2546
@enzomorales2546 6 лет назад
I must disagree with you sir. I think we should agree in disagree. cm > inch
@pocket83
@pocket83 6 лет назад
One inch = 2.54 cm. You are disagreeing with accepted convention.
@enzomorales2546
@enzomorales2546 6 лет назад
cm > inch == cm bigger as a concept than inch, numerics do not apply in this discussion. I’m being threatened, running low on arguments 🤫
@BeerJingle
@BeerJingle 6 лет назад
You don't need to argue with him, you know he's wrong and he should too but I'm sure he'll come to accept that
@yoyomagic2068
@yoyomagic2068 7 лет назад
It's a time machine!
@mduvigneaud
@mduvigneaud 6 лет назад
Ouch! That stereo separation. :\ I recommend limiting that to about 50%. Maybe 67% at most for *really* "dramatic" effects.
@pocket83
@pocket83 6 лет назад
I don't understand what you are talking about. If you have a specific grievance, cite a specific time/example.
@itsthorondil7608
@itsthorondil7608 7 лет назад
........ Why do I still get ads for something I own??
@pocket83
@pocket83 7 лет назад
I wish I knew. It gets creepy; if you buy something at Wal*mart using a debit card, you might see RU-vid ads for that thing the next day.
@Crow653
@Crow653 6 лет назад
That one was actually kind of creepy to me for some reason. Is that a run-on sentence? I feel like that's a run-on sentence..
@Desi-qw9fc
@Desi-qw9fc 7 лет назад
Hi Pocket :>
@pocket83
@pocket83 7 лет назад
Hey!
@talmadgebirdsong1609
@talmadgebirdsong1609 6 лет назад
5 divided by 64 gives you the decimal equivalent to the fraction, not the metric equivalent as you stated.
@pocket83
@pocket83 6 лет назад
Yeah. I was poking fun at those of you who are so serious about it. I can't even mention 64ths without some _Systeme International_ Nazi demanding that I admit the inferiority of Imperial. Relax.
@Rubikorigami
@Rubikorigami 7 лет назад
3:22 Liar, I see yellow blu-tac ;)
@pocket83
@pocket83 7 лет назад
Nope, those are just the rubber feet.
@Rubikorigami
@Rubikorigami 7 лет назад
pocket83 Oooooh, yes indeed, my bad!
@Kolajer
@Kolajer 7 лет назад
Rotating frame of reference, baby
@bartianbach
@bartianbach 7 лет назад
Kolajer vxxfp
@xaytana
@xaytana 7 лет назад
Now make one using golfballs. We all know you want to.
@pocket83
@pocket83 7 лет назад
Not in this case. Ideally, I would use marbles. And make it gear-driven, with a big, medieval looking hand crank!
@voidwanderer7138
@voidwanderer7138 7 лет назад
I'm getting dizzy just watching this
@colinantink9094
@colinantink9094 6 лет назад
Jesus just how many angry pixies are you forcing into your motor to make the thing chooch!
@SlaveToMyStomach
@SlaveToMyStomach 7 лет назад
You didn't explain how you were able to get an integer number of BBs per row. I was hoping to see some math re circumferences and diameters or at least show how you turned (on a lathe like machine) the inside diameter of the PVC tube to accommodate the BBs with no gap. If the bottom row of BBs has a gap that would propagate up through all the rows.
@pocket83
@pocket83 7 лет назад
Finally, somebody brought this up! Ok, I was a bit confused on the prototype, because I was _sure_ that I would have to consider the spacing in that way, and possibly modify the ID, or at least experiment with different tubes. At first, I just thought that I had stumbled upon a happy coincidence, but it turns out that it's far more forgiving than you might expect, because of two things, so far as I can tell: 1)the relatively large number of BBs that comprise the circumference, which can distribute a minor discrepancy over a large area, and 2)the mass of the rows on top, which help to implement that distribution, by determining the parameters of the crystallization (at the bottom) for all of the subsequent rows. Cool, huh? I hope I said all of that right.
@SlaveToMyStomach
@SlaveToMyStomach 7 лет назад
That's an excellent point and could be shown thusly: Use transparent material for the cylinder and, turn (as on a lathe) the ID such that it accommodates slightly less than an integer number of BBs thus maximizing the gap. The gap should be more obvious.
@TatsukiHashida
@TatsukiHashida 7 лет назад
I think I'm getting dizzy
@THEMADMAN254
@THEMADMAN254 7 лет назад
I feel dizzy now
@jungojerry1658
@jungojerry1658 6 лет назад
The day science begins to study non-physical phenomina, it will make more progress in one decade than in all the previous centuries of existence. Nikola Tesla
@trexminiarms2032
@trexminiarms2032 7 лет назад
Who was wondering which way he was spinning it
@KhanggiTanka
@KhanggiTanka 7 лет назад
5 divided by 64 what?
@pocket83
@pocket83 7 лет назад
Jellybeans.
@Wolfie2TMX
@Wolfie2TMX 6 лет назад
Yes.
@homosapienssapiens19
@homosapienssapiens19 7 лет назад
obligatory centripetal rage comment by someone who doesn't understand non inertial reference frames.
@pocket83
@pocket83 7 лет назад
Yeah. I have to keep the physics statements to absolute bare bones, lest we risk angering Captain semantics and his un-merry band of self-designated experts. I wish people would learn to value concept and content over nomenclature, but so goes the struggle of trying to chisel out one's own identity; we tend to grasp whatever little power we have. Terra firma! I can know this! It feels good to have something secure in a transitory world, does it not? Even if it's only the labels for various types of motion. Oddly enough, despite our best efforts to designate movements as something non-arbitrary, there is only heat and the absence of it. Absolute zero, or movement. Everything else beyond that is only a man-made delineation: the finding of pattern where it perhaps does not exist.
@TVA1814DeltaIII
@TVA1814DeltaIII 7 лет назад
homosapienssapiens19 Centrifugal force is actually fake, when in a spinning motion it requires gravity to accelerate it and cause inertia. That inertia isn’t actually directly outward but the force of the balls want to go straight forward but just get pulled inward. It’s not centrifugal force, but it’s just inertia.
@AlexMercer77
@AlexMercer77 7 лет назад
[TVA] 1815 Delta III You have 0 clue about what you are talking about. Sounds like you just typed that with your feet after reading a highschool text book. "Fake", really? That's the word you're gonna use? Ever heard of "fictitious forces"? Damn right it's also called as inertial force. Talk about a rotating frame of reference. Whether you approach a problem with it or not, you're gonna end up getting the same results.
@pocket83
@pocket83 7 лет назад
Please keep the conversation nice. I've had to remove dozens of hate-filled threads on the subject already, and I really don't like doing that. Seriously: do any of you remember your physics teachers screaming at you? It's hard stuff, so try to stay calm and understanding.
@AlexMercer77
@AlexMercer77 7 лет назад
pocket83 Oh it's just my habit here and my natural tone! I'm quite sarcastic! My best physics teacher's not only shouted but sweared at us and whacked our shoulders with a rubber ruler if we do silly mistakes; not with hate but with humor. We used to joke around and insult each other so much. One bad thing about the internet is you can't see facial expressions and the tone of your voice. Miss the old days,... Oh well, this is your channel so it's your rules.
@NorokVokun
@NorokVokun 6 лет назад
Great project... BUT metric is far better than imperial... metric is completely based on 10s and 100s... 10millimeter are 1centimeter, 10centimeters are 1 decimeter, 10decimeters are 1meter. FAR simpler to learn and keep in mind because of its simplicity. i learned both systems in school equally long at roughly the same time so age can be ignored... forgotten the imperial system a long time ago and still got the metric system in my mind like hammered into stone... all i remember from imperial is that 1inch is somewhere arround 2.4centimeters i think... but as i saied great project that i might attent to replicate.
@pocket83squared
@pocket83squared 6 лет назад
Irrelevant.
@doghound.
@doghound. 7 лет назад
You're not early. You're just in time
@avebb_
@avebb_ 7 лет назад
on time
@doghound.
@doghound. 7 лет назад
Hentai Senpai you're making me cry
@terencetam2122
@terencetam2122 7 лет назад
1:58 im tripping
@Krebzonide
@Krebzonide 7 лет назад
all that spinning makes me feel kinda sick.
@ilsunnylo3562
@ilsunnylo3562 6 лет назад
Im dizzy.
@breezetix
@breezetix 7 лет назад
Oh I thought this was nighthawks video because of his comment, I'm on an ipad
@thisguy5635
@thisguy5635 7 лет назад
*Hyper speed*
@brianhall5530
@brianhall5530 7 лет назад
Holy crap I can make it seem like the table is spinning to the left and to the right
@jevetts
@jevetts 7 лет назад
Hello
@CthulhusDream
@CthulhusDream 7 лет назад
triple woot
@refrsh
@refrsh 7 лет назад
CONGRATULATIONS You are first!
@CthulhusDream
@CthulhusDream 7 лет назад
Awesome what did I win lol?
@pocket83
@pocket83 7 лет назад
NOTHING! You have to yell "FIRST," or else it's void, loser.
@CthulhusDream
@CthulhusDream 7 лет назад
Wrong, sir! Wrong! Under section 37B of the contract signed by him, it states quite clearly that all offers shall become null and void if - and you can read it for yourself in this photostatic copy - "I, the undersigned, shall forfeit all rights, privileges, and licenses herein and herein contained," et cetera, et cetera... "Fax mentis, incendium gloria cultum," et cetera, et cetera... Memo bis punitor delicatum! It's all there! Black and white, clear as crystal! You didn't say "First!"! You numbered "woot"'s, which now have to be washed and sterilized, so you get... NOTHING!!! You lose! GOOD DAY, SIR!
@pocket83
@pocket83 7 лет назад
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