Behringer Model D vs. Moog Sub37 - comparing the sound (Riamiwo StudioVlog 89) 

I own neither but reading the comments I notice a lot of people saying that the Sub37 is the more aggressive of the two. However that is definitely not my impression. The top end on the Model D seems more aggressive to me whereas the Sub37 is really smooth. From this demonstration I'm not sure if they can be compared on that level. They both sound great and have their place. For the money the Model D just can't be ignored.

I like them both, hands down! Great video

Listening in my studio through BM15 monitors and I am skipping the Sub37 sounds basically every time. Very harsh and unpleasant to listen to. I’m in shock at how beautiful the Behringer D is. Unbelievable Thank you for this video, I notice the effort put into it… Be well

I have a Sub37 and hesitated a little on grabbing a D wondering if it was redundant. Mine should show up tomorrow and I'm pretty sure I'll be happy to have both to play off each other. Some people are saying this was a pointless comparison, but I disagree and were I still on the fence about it, I would be convinced to jump in. I appreciate the effort here.

Very nice test. Enjoyed listening.

Great comparison man!

Fantastic demonstration!

Awesome videos. Thanks. I recently just purchased a Model D. I love it, especially for the price.

that agressive and classic tone on boog gives me more goose bumps :)

The sub37 and the subsequent37 with the improved filter have the huge advantage of storing patches. Having said that, patch programming on the model d is quick and easy once you get used to it.

I gave this a blind listen and my ears perked up whenever the Model D played. Thanks for the great sound comparison!

One major thing to consider is usage. The Sub has memory preset recall which is far better for performance with included keyboard. With a 1500 price tag it’s more approachable. The model D is great for studio use or simple performance patching. The size does make it easier for travel though.

Great video! 👍 first I’ve seen from your channel; just subbed with all notifications. Well done! Cheers, -H.B. PS: *I JUST bought my BEHRINGER Model D yesterday.* My first analogue synth/physical piece of gear _(aside from a MIDI controller & audio interface)_ and it arrives January 6th - REALLY looking forward to playing this instrument! 😬 I was also considering the Neutron and the Roland SE-02, but in the end, the sound, the filter, and nod to the Mini Moog Model D just won over my decision. Hopefully I’ll be able to get the Neutron in 3 months or so... Then after that my eyes are on the MS-1 which I think Behringer got incredibly close to the original SH-101 sounds and feature set. Later!

2 different beasts. The sub37 doesnt shine for brightness of osc, but is great in other department (pre filter feedback is great to shape the sound). I found out that to open the filter a little more, you can use the 6db slope. You'll get a tiny bit more brightness.

model d super snappy envelopes , very impressive

They both sound good but it’s a weird comparison to make. A model D is a model D: smooth, creamy and deep. The sub 37 is amazing for everything distorted and dirty plus crazy modulation.

This an awesome demo. I have a sub37; working on the model D

Thank you for the comparison!! Sub 37 is an obvious winner for me. Just so smooth and yet so edgy! But definitely modelD for its price is mind boggling!

The sub37 sounds more high-fi and smooth, but maybe it’s just my eyes 🤷🏻‍♂️ they’re not meant to sound the same, but nice to see them head to head. Considered the 37 but couldn’t say no to the $300 moogy box

The sub 37 has filter tracking set at 1:1 when you initialize a patch. If you don’t intentionally change this, you don't get as much top end sizzle on it as on a D. Consequently, many folks conclude that the sub 37 just sounds that way, and suggest that setting the filter slope to 6 is the only remedy. But all you have to do is reach over and turn the filter tracking knob to 0 and...there's the top end everyone says is "missing" from the sub 37. It's even more apparent on the subsequent 37 because it's harder to overdrive the mixer section, where as on the sub37, even the initial patch was getting pretty close to overdriven, and once you turn up oscillator 2, it definitely was. And as far as overdrive, the subsequent 37 has one of the most beautiful filter drives I've ever heard. If you want to spend another $300 just for great drive, send your sub 37 to Moog and have them upgrade the circuitry to subsequent37 circuits. It's worth it. Anyhow....turn down filter tracking and don't overdrive the mixer if you want it to sound like a D. In every way, the sub37 is a ridiculously more diverse and capable synth. No one should regret owning one, especially not because of some comparison to a clone of a much more limited synth.

both sound great,are you using an external sequencer? cheers.

Great comparison ❤

Buy both and run them together ?

9:13 Model D sounds fantastic!

Wow, the Model D really holds up well, here

They both sound great. Add a good analog delay and a reverb and I doubt you would be unhappy with either. It's nice to bridge the gap. Hell, maybe to bury the hatchet, Moog, Behringer and Dave Smith should make an instrument together? Come on you know it can be something awesome!

I had a model D, but sold it a couple a months ago. Since I make live pop and electronic music, I didn't like the fact that the Boog did not have a bank for presets. That makes it difficult to perform live and try to change between presets on stage. Now I have a Sub 37. It is awesome. It has lots of presets banks. But it is not that portable. And you know what? I really miss the Boog. Its sound was certainly more aggressive (awesome for long naturally-distorted drones), while the Sub 37 has one of the finest top-end harmonics. Thanks for this piece of comparison. Now I know that I have to re-buy a Boog ASAP.

If intro bassline was played by Model D I would buy it no second thoughts. So which one is on bass?

My eyes love the Sub 37 but my ears love the D. Seriously the 37 is smooth and refined and of course can be pushed to be dirty. Great modern synth worth every cent and run circles around the Boog. Still the D is so Raw and punchy just love it. Good comparison. They go well together.

Could the intro be played with a Moog Grandmother?

the model d has a noisy hiss in the top-end, is that a distorted input or is that the sound of it?. especially in the beginning with the filter closed.

Sounds like they could complement each other well. Be great to hear some actually well crafted music over this repetitive noise generation. Cheers

Interesting. It's evident that you're exited about the new Behringer though :D

I received my D yesterday and I am very satisfied, I think my Slim Phatty gets pretty obsolete the coming months...

The model d in my opinion has s better top end . Great demonstration.

Thats fair enough when you compare the sound of these two. It all comes to the taste preference, maybe lets not forget what sub comes with in a package? Fully weighted aftertouch keyboard/sequencer/arp/glide options/assignable modulation per step/ loopable envelopes and many more functions that mode d does not have. Whatever sound you prefer, but these two units can’t go anywhere near to a comparison. If you need just a sound, yes its cheap, grab model d, if you want a full functional crazy expressive bossman mono synth you know the answer

Always wanted a Moog. So I ordered the Sub 25 on a wild hair, wish I'd have done more speculating and research could have gotten two different units for that price, oh well. The Sub 25 looks really nice, an elegant peice of hardware.

i just picked up a model D for 240 from goiter center. It's amazing even though it's my 6th analog synth.

model D for pureness of sound, Sub37 for amazing possibilities

the D is winner for snappy bass , faster enveloppes.

The Model D has not only a Low- bud also a Highpass filter, so you can also tweak the upper frequencies to let it even more sound as fat as the moog. Absoluetly awesome synth! Thanks for the comparsion!

Slam dunk for behringer

Which synth make the arpeggio in the intro ?

Sub has more umph and roundness but for the price, you cannot beat Behringer.

wow I'm impressed with both, I had a MiniMoog years ago back in the 80's should have never let it go. The reissue minimoog seems over priced. the Sub 37 appears to be very capable and I bet it can do everything the mini does. the Behringer sounds great and could be a nice module to add however the knobs are too close together for me Im going with the sub 37

I have a sub 37. I think I need a behringer D too. For that sound.

The Moog is a great package! However I spend the money on an ob6 used and got the model d. Good enough for my uses.

I absolutely love my model d. Only issue is it came from the factory slightly out of tune, but calibrating it is super easy.

Who am i playing with? Would make more sense to me. Duh#!

Aggressive vs smooth. Can't decide which one I like more.

So now you need to redo this video with the Behringer Poly D.

I stay with model D 💙

i think the 37 is way cleaner but this may just be as the guy said below setting differences

I think if you're buying a sub37, you can afford to get both! Use the sequencer on the moog to control the D

i own two synths deepmind 6 and korg monologue, the sound from model d is more "elegant"

Big Thanks! I am a Newbie and check on RU-vid the Model D Sound. Find your Video an Love the Model D! But, yes, i have not enough Money for the Sub37, my choice going to the Sub37. Why? I dont now the Word in English....Fetter.... Ahh, Deeper around my Shoes and Neckhair^^ Both are GREAT, but what i say? I am a Newbie 😁Nice Video 🎹🎼

Paid 219$ for the Model D at Guitar center. So at that price, it wins hands down.

if you listen from min 6:57 to 7:37 you realize that the Behringer does not reach the sound warmth of the Moog

Is it weird that the only thing keeping me from a behringer is that the cutoff knob isn’t +size

They sound identical. $300 vs $1600, I already have Two small MIDI controllers, yup, no brainer. I'm glad I went with my Model D. 🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩

Wonder if the new Poly-D can completely kill the Sub 37 for more than half the price!

you could have also turned on the sub generator ya know. it adds to the fatness

Hell, you might as well compare it to an ARP 2600 and a Oberheim Sem as well. lol

Might as well compare it(the d) to a poly6 too(did that too,have both),apples&pears my freind. I own both,they both have their place and the d is a great "little"unit as is the sub...but 299$ is easier to justify than 3500$ for a mini,sorry purists the price is the factor on that comparison... wow factor has to go to the beringer d,way to go beringer!!, now wheres that odyssey? I wana do a comparison with my original arp.. We're waiting patiently!!!

Prefer the model D by a mile. Thanks for saving me a lot of money

Toujours aussi magique !

Godzin

The behringer D is pretty decent. It suonds a bit trashy, a bit unrefined, but that doesn't mean it sounds bad. It's clearly got quite hyped top end, too. I would definitely get one if it wasn't for the fact that they're known to have awful tuning/calibration, which makes them absolutely useless. Not everyone will have this problem with their unit, but the fact that it's basically a gamble to buy one means I won't buy one. Such a damned shame that they dind't get that important part right... I just ordered a Moog Subsequent 37 CV, though. Good stuff.

possiedo sia il model D che il SUB 37 CV e malgrado ritengo il Model D veramente godevole e bensuonante, il Moog rimane sempre il Moog, più rotondo e cremoso, con bassi ineguaglibili se non da Minimoog, malrado i due oscillatori , si ottengono dei suoni veramente straordinari... MOOG forever

proud owner of Behringer Model D

Why comparing apples with pears? Imho the D should only be compared against a real Moog Minimoog Model D - because this is the one it is based on.

Wow i love the D. I am a moog lover from the 70s. My first was the one they made for radio shack and it went nuts from there. I do however like the D better here. Great vid.

Model D all day for me...Oh look at that, there's extra money in my pocket as well haha

Sub is clean with depth

I only hear 2 osc of the Model D.

4:12 and 5:50 is why I think the Poly D is a winner, at least to my ears. (not just because it's louder) fully saturated fatness, from the punchy attack to what follows. Maybe he didn't mess with the knobs well enough on the Sub37, but he couldn't get that same tone out of it.

There is nothing the Model D can do the 37 can’t and the 25 can do A LOT more!!

Model D sounds much better for me - so in your face and that high end bite. The sub lives up to it's name - all sub not much high end. I've always wanted a Sub 37 but now i'm not massively impressed. If you want smoothness just turn down the filter on the D - if you want high end bite on the Sub - seems like you can't have it!

You should turn down the oscillator volume section. Way down actually. The Sub37 starts to distort as you drive it past 12 o'clock in the mixer section. If you don't want to lose to rich harmonic content keep the oscillator levels below 12 o'clock.

Personally I like the sound of the model d better. I think it just fits the style or sound I like more. I like the brightness while still being fat. The sub sounds like it’s just fat. Good in its own way though.

Hmm sounds like Mauro Picotto

I cried

Seems like those who don't have the funds for a sub37 are automatically going with the Boog instead of just being honest about the sound. Clearly the sub37 can get very close to sounding like a Boog. Close enough that tiny differences wouldn't matter to the average ear. Let's not forget that the Boog is modeled after the company that makes the Sub37. Lol. AND the Boog cannot do what the sub37 can do. BUT for the price.... the Boog is a serious catch.

I own a sub37 and this video makes me wanna sell it :p

Whether you prefer the sound of the Moog or the Behringer, you can't deny that the Behringer is way more worth it"s price...

You should check out the video Starsky Carr did.

D sounds better to me

D beats it easily

The sub osc in the Moog really shines. They both sound good, but the low end of the Poly just isn't there for me. Listening on: Yamaha HS80m, mogami gold wiring from LA Sound, apogee symphony MKI. The sub in sub37 is made abundantly clear with that sick -1 octave SUB osc. Not a fair comparison really imo, but damn for $300 the behringer is up there. Anyway, a lot of mone you spend on a synth isn't just the sound. When I pay good money, I need my synth to not fuck up, to last forever, to be under quick and painless warranty, to not wear down, to last me a life time. A lot of these Model D's come de-tuned, as is a problem with analog shit, and the only fix is to get out a soldering iron and cross your fingers. A real pain the ass. And judging by previous behringer gear from the past, I can't see any of these standing the test of time. So, I'm also willing to pay for headache medicine I guess I should say.

winning is sub 37

Let's see...should I spend $1,500.00 for the Sub 37 or $300.00 for the Model D?

sub 37 sounds thicker/fuller to me

Sub 37 is unbeatable. Easily the greatest synth of all time.

Behringer Model D puts the Sub 37 to shame here. I have a Sub 37 and I was expecting this to be the case as there's certain sounds you just can't get out of the Sub 37 that you can the Moog Model D.

For the price of sub 37....i would by 3 behringer model d and also a neutron....then it would equal to the price of sub 37...for this i would have 11 osscilators and limitless possibilities...which sub 37 could never reach.....small knobs doesn't matter....what matters is the sound.

Almost like comparing apples to raisins ...sub37 sounds like it has the depth and raw synth character.. model D does sound good for what it is.. I am listening through head phones and have a sub37... (being objective), ...sub37 wins... it’s obvious

i will now be buying a Model D after watching this .. 300dollars vs 1300 dollars ..Behringer is gonna steal Moogs money all day .. they can have mine now.. i no longer need to buy a 1300 dollar synth!! fuck ya ..Love Moog ..Love Saving Money more..

With all due respect this video isn't doing the Sub37 justice. Try putting the filter slope at 6 so it's more comparable with the Boog. 24 isn't giving it that higher harmonics that the Boog has. The envelope won't help you there so no point trying to tweak that. Resonance and Multi drive gives you that. The Frequency and the FDBK knob as well. The Sub37 can give you some of the Boogs top end harmonics once you set the filter correctly. The Model D is brighter but the Sub37 is far more adequate at those sounds than this demonstration illustrates. I have to point this out or people may think that this is a balanced comparison. Respectfully I disagree with what this video conveys

non c'è paragone! Moog lo sotterra. Model D Behringer è carino, per quello che costa, vale la pena averlo. Ma Moog è un altro pianeta. Lo sentirebbe anche un sordo.

Owned a sub37, hated it.