BELT DRIVE for TRAXXAS XMAXX !! 

Thanks for the tip bro! 😎

Thanks! It is a really nice motor

Thanks!

Thanks bro! You too!

Yeah it does look cool 😎

Yeah you might be right about that thanks!

Thanks!

Ok thanks for the tips!

Ok thanks for the tip! Appreciate the support

You’d think so but that’s not actually the case……the holes are staggered on both inserts…..so all that will do if I flip the insert 180 is tilt the motor in the opposite direction but keep it at the exact same height

Ok thanks for the tips!….do you bash yours pretty hard though? Cause my plan is to bash it hard so it’s gonna have to hold up to some heavy abuse

@@RCKnockout the only trouble you are going to run into id imagine is that motor mount looks like hell to adjust. Love my wfo motor mount. Tighten belt 1 or two times and you should be set. I bash mine pretty hard aswell as speed run. Im not hitting skate parks and purposely trying to break it but im not babying it either. The cush drive cover gave me hell because of the tension from the belt drive. Super glue or tire glue on the bolts and tighten it down as far as you can go without stripping the plastic. If you are still having issues look into a aluminum cush drive cover.

@@inmichiganweride5432 gotcha…..that’s a worry of mine with the belt tension….having the screw holes in the bulkhead strip out

@@RCKnockout i got a local dirt track with large jumps i hit frequently. If you go mod 1.5 and decide belt drive isnt for you invest in a gear cover and be terrified of your mesh being too tight or too loose. I run my belt drive basically as tight as i can take it i give it a figer press and aslong as it presses in a hair i call it good. Make one hard bash and check tension. Every belt has its max it will stretch and you will find that. You just loosen the tension a little bit. I swapped to mod 1.5 gears attempting to take my pulleys off my motor and the red loctite i had on the shaft would not bust free so i decided to run mod 1.5 gears. Absolutely grenaded teeth off them with perfect mesh. Wether that was manufacturing defect or not it ruined 2 weekends of bashing i had setup with friends. And i said no more. Went straight back to belt drive. Keep in mind im running 800kv. My dad runs his mod 1.5 gears on his 800kv and has not had a issue yet. And he bashes way harder then me. I personally dont like the loud ringing of the mod 1.5 gears. Makes my teeth hurt lol.

@@RCKnockout ive seen people drill the holes and do a bult and nut combo. Mine stripped out after i replaced the bulkhead and was installing the new one i just slammed a small zip tie down the hole and ran the bolt down. Plenty of bite and stronger plastic in the zip tie vs what the bulkhead is.

Thanks for the tip!

Thanks!

@@RCKnockout no problem

Appreciate the support! I don’t own a TRX4 so I probably won’t be the one to figure that out lol

Thanks for sharing your experience! I thought it was worth a shot…..it could be a fail but we will see

800kv castle had no issues with belt drive. Mod 1.5 gears are an absolute headache as they seem fragile as all hell. Went through 2 sets. Perfect mesh.

@@inmichiganweride5432 really? You had that many issues with the 1.5 mod gears?

I’ll have to check it out

Ok thanks!

Thanks for the recommendation!

I ended up taking the belt drive out actually…it was too much of a pain and it was causing other breakages each time I ran it

Yeah it is pretty smooth

Ok thanks for the tip! Yeah I guess I never thought about rocks and debris getting caught up between the belt and pulley

This is a cogged belt, not driven by friction on the side edges of the belt, so break in is not necessary on this style of belt.

@@scottlesage386 ah true, didn’t know if it would happen on the teeth of the belt from the heat, but you’re right it doesn’t have to actually “grab” anything like a clutch would so you’re 100% right on the break in

Yeah I don’t think that would be necessary

That’s true thanks!

Thanks for letting me know……I don’t think I’m gonna spend even more money on another mount though

@@RCKnockout understandable, especially if the belt drive doesn’t work out, then your just throwing money away

@@scottlesage386 exactly….it’s a perfectly good mount……just didn’t realize it would clash with this pulley system

@@RCKnockout true enuf, looks like a good quality manufactured part indeed

@@scottlesage386 yeah it seems to work well

you could also attempt to do this on the round shaft itself. we dont flat spot gun barrels. your set screw should have a bit of a cone on the end that will allow it to set well into the drilled spot

Ok, thank you for the help and info!

@@RCKnockout A v slot for the set screw would work also

@@MaxBrix what do you mean by a “v slot”?

Oh ok! Thanks for the explanation

The stock pinion and spur are very weak…..I was stripping those pinions almost every run…..even hardened steel ones failed on me so I decided to try something different

@@RCKnockout sounds like you dont mesh them properly. also you should fabricate a belt tensioner or you will be changing belts allthe time.

@@vihreelinja4743 it’s impossible to get the gear mesh wrong on an Xmaxx……as long as you use the provided pins……you just put them in the correct holes for the gearing your running and the mesh is good…..so mesh is not the issue…… How do you recommend I make a belt tensioner?

Thanks man!

@@RCKnockout No problem, i was always like watching your videos especially the X-Maxx and Brushless 5T content. I will be buying my own X-Maxx and 5T 2.0 soon in the future and a few other cars and trucks.

@@cjchannel12RC awesome man! Glad you’re enjoying the content

Thanks! I’ve never heard of the M2c bash bar? What does it do?

@@RCKnockout it stops the bulks from breaking on rough landings(to an extent of course) and stops the center shaft bending. Its almost like a center chassis brace except on the bottom. Makes them stronger

@@Jobro_Ya_Know oh ok…..I have seen those actually

Interesting…..didn’t know that…..thanks for the info!

@@RCKnockout I had the same problem trying to help fit that in the x01. We didn’t know that plate was plastic

@@timmytimtime1284 oh ok I gotcha

Ok thanks for the tip!

I’ll have to check out that kit……I’ve never heard of it

Thanks!

Ok thanks!

That’s actually a pretty good idea….thanks!

or just some washers?

@@PhatPhinx im aware of that method, but i didnt want give him the hill billy solution.

@@PhatPhinx that could definitely work too!

@@RCKnockout if you see it from that perspective- yes, every material in the right size and thickness could work. Dried pasta krums could also work and so does a new motor mount with the right hight or or customizing the old mount. My solution was somewhere inbetween, where you can say yourself "i didnt over done it without beeing to crappy."

Thanks for the info! I’ll definitely have to try to implement those tips!

Not 100% sure on that….the belt tension is definitely a tricky thing to get right though

Thanks! It’s hard to tell if this will work or not……time will tell I suppose

Yup, have fun!

@@rubinhosfrog thanks!

Maybe…..I’m not sure……I think that would be a difficult task to pull off though….

Thanks! Glad this was helpful for you lol

@@RCKnockout love your videos keep it up brother

@@BigCheese85 appreciate it bro! 😎

That might be more helpful

I’ll have to take a look thanks!

I guess that makes sense…..I don’t understand why there’s two though…the one against the flat part is the one doing all of the work holding the pulley in place

@@RCKnockout it's pretty common for pulleys to have two set screws. In general they would have a matching shaft that would have two flats on it but in this case they weren't really designed together. Having the additional set screw does help though. It does have to be tightened out in a particular order though. Need to lightly snug the one on the flat and then tighten the one that isn't on the flat and then finish tightening the one on the flat. Otherwise you might end up not getting the one on the flat all the way on perfectly. Also need to make sure that you clean the threads on the screws and the pulley with brake cleaner or alcohol. Then apply loctite tighten securely and allow 24 hours to cure. The belt also needs to be pretty tight otherwise I will start skipping. The problem is that with it being tight it tends to pull the spur shaft in the opposite direction it was designed for which can actually pull the spur shaft cover off. It is possible to get the pulley system to work but not ideal. Take a look at my channel I have a video about an mmm mod 1.5 gear. It allows you to keep your kush drive and is the best option for mod 1.5 in my opinion. I've tried pretty much all of them.

@@DoRC thanks for all of the info! I definitely learned a lot 👍😉

Don’t drink Redbull lol

Not sure if they have anything like that available for an Xmaxx?

@@RCKnockout i believe the person made it themselves from parts on ebay.

@@blindabinda1234 gotcha….I don’t think I have the skills to do that lol

@@RCKnockout of course you do. Basically the same concept as the belt

@@blindabinda1234 appreciate the encouragement 😉👍

Thanks for the tip!

@@RCKnockout You can also grind a flat part onto the motor shaft with a Dremel for the set screw to contact.

@@SteakGrisel1 that’s true….the motor shaft does already have one good flat side but another one would probably be helpful

Yeah I’ve actually used orange thread lock before…..I don’t find the hold is much better than the blue…..screws still have a way of coming loose

Well basic hold is 6hrs but it prefers 24hrs. I've used on my Typhon 3s with a 6s setup to hold spirit gear on n haven't had any issues n I bash the crap out of it. To the point of breaking a lot earlier today

Actually was just thinking look for loctite with antiseize it's usually used for stainless steel but it helps stop threads getting screwed up or wallowed out

@@AudiA4Life ok thanks for the tip!

@@AudiA4Life usually I wait a day before I bash….they still have a way of coming out it seems like

Didn’t quite get it right, but close enough lol….. It depends if it’s just dust I’ll blow it off with compressed air…..if it’s muddy I’ll use a hose then dry it off with compressed air and spray the bearings down with wd40

@@RCKnockout thank you, i have a air compressor and i usually use that to clean them. do u have to take apart the rc arfter like sand runs or if i get it wet do i need to take it apart?

@@lazermncrft5811 I’ve never bothered taking anything apart after a run unless it’s broken……I don’t have that much time to waste after each time it gets messy lol 😂 …..which is pretty often

@@RCKnockout lol okay thxx for ur help

@@lazermncrft5811 no problem 😉

Thanks for the tip!

Thanks for the tip!

TBD

It’s not that easy to gear down…..I’d have to buy a whole new pulley kit

Can you use that motor and pulley system with a stock esc from xmaxx?

No guys you can adjust it on the it probably on stock settings u can adjust with hobbywing card that’s what most do to get high speed runs and more power with higher temp adjustments and switching to lower low voltage shut off

@@oscarmike131 I’m sure this motor wouldn’t work well with a stock esc

@@moereefer how about stock esc from xmaxx and a 1100kv motor from hobbywing? im asking cause after a year my stock motor finally gave out on me and im just researching what's the best motor to get next for the xmaxx

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@@RCKnockout thanks, but what brand is that?

@@hahasimpsons it’s the Traxxas upgraded one

The stock gears strip all the time

Doesn’t seem any faster

This isn’t a Maxx….it’s an Xmaxx actually which unfortunately has pretty weak gears….that’s why I decided to try this out

Yeah they’ve served me very well too!

What’s a sleeve retainer for?

Yeah….we will see……time will tell

Perhaps there is at least noise reduction.

Well look at all the older belt drive rc cars. They held up just fine. With the belt you have waay more contact area then just 3 teeth.

@@blindabinda1234 gears don’t slip and older rcs ran brushed motors.

@@Djkommode and nitro.

No

@@RCKnockout the same?

@@QuackersIsCwazy hard to tell….but it doesn’t feel any faster

@@RCKnockout ohh

Gear drive is slightly more efficient but I am thinking if you could get the weight down on the belt system lower than the weight of the gears it would be better because you have less rotating mass, that would improve acceleration in theory. I would imagine the belt drive would be a lot more forgiving landing big jumps on the throttle.

What’s a cap screw?

Ok thanks!

A what?

Not sure how to do that?

They strip almost all the time….especially the pinion gears

Gotcha thanks for the info, was always curious about the belt drive, but not sure if it's worth the trouble for me, I don't seem to have as many issues as you did you may bash a little harder than me, my only problem is the pinion comes loose no matter what color lock tight I use....but not that much of a problem I check b4 I use it....and make sure it's tight....great vid hope it continues to work for you👍👍

I have a first gen Xmaxx. Upgraded to ezrun 6 when i cooked the stock esc. (Maybe 1 years old at that time). Been running that for 4 years. I have killed 7 Traxxas batteries, just destroyed my 4th body . It just stripped the original stock input gear 2 weeks ago. Still running the original spur and pinio gears. This is a cool kit but I don’t have any issues with the original stock ones. It lasted 4+ years of me beating the crap out of it. Seems like an expensive unnecessary upgrade. Not knocking the video creator. Just stating my experience.

@@andyb9994 yeah that’s another issue, the pinion grub screw coming loose once the pinion heats up….I’ve stripped well over a dozen stock pinion gears at this point and a handful of hardened steel ones too….

You’ll have to look to see if there are kits available for it

Good to know your experience

@@RCKnockout yep a run or 2 tighten belt again and again then you can't bogus set up imo, go mod 1.5 smooth and reliable

@@MrBumbles2 thanks for the advice 👍😉

We will see……hopefully 🤞

Thanks for the tip!

Not sure what that is?

@@RCKnockout hi, under the motor mount you could put a thick sheet of plastic cut to the same shape as the mount footprint and drilled for the mounting bolts you could tailor the thickness to tighten the belt.

@@donnyanda3191 oh ok I gotcha 😉

Nope, it’s not that easy unfortunately

Blue still doesn’t hold that well…..stuff still seems to work it’s way loose

And red lock tight is too strong,,because that belt drive looks like a interesting concept,,how long do you let rc sit after you put thread lock on ???

@@DavidSmith-vc5rn depends…..sometimes I try it out right away but usually it’s a day or two later

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Ok so bottom pulley is the part messing up,,flattened spur shaft might work

I’m pretty sure it would have to be perfectly centered or the pulley would wobble…..I could be wrong though……my guess is it’s not that easy to drill into that motor shaft either

If u drill through entire pulley along with shaft it shouldnt be to bad what material is the shaft

@@dustinkeith8064 I would guess it to be hardened steel……it’s probably not supposed to be drilled into

Even hardend steel can be drilled through just takes some time and a ton of lube only reason im saying is bevause thats a lot of torque for those little set screws even with a flat face to rest on its still gonna slip...now maybe you dont have to drill all the way through but atleast put divots into it so the set screw will sit into it and not allow it to move at all

@@dustinkeith8064 that’s true……if the pulley system doesn’t work I’d rather not have a hole or divots in the motor shaft though lol 😂

It says right in the Ebay listing it works for a 1100kv Hobbywing Motor…..I have no issue with the motor attaching to the mount…..so I’m not sure what you’re talking about?

Might be a fail for me too…..Time will tell I suppose

Disagree with this entirely. Adjusted belt tension twice since setup. Absolutely love my belt drive for speed running and bash.

Yeah a little bit lol

We will see…maybe

True

Gotcha thanks!

Stock gears are weak and strip all the time…..hardened steel ones still have a way of stripping

Mainly because the gears on the Xmaxx are very weak…..hardened steel ones still seem to strip too

@@RCKnockout oh ok 👍

I think I’d have to swap out to a different pulley system to do that

I don’t know the science behind it lol 😂

Lol ive hit 107mph with my 25/25 belt drive. 800kv motor. Theres a guy whos hit 136mph with a belt drive.

Sorry each to there own, I just know I don't see Raz, Talbert ne1 running it, and the videos (only 2) I've seen on it there's lots slippage and heat from friction. But it's just my opinion not saying scrap it just my thoughts.

Alright thanks

We will see…time will tell