Ben Shapiro Debates Destiny (Gen Z REACTS) 

It's funny to hear conservative politicians/pundits say we need more kids/families... Like bruh, my one child's daycare cost is almost as much as rent.

A lot of women are becoming stay at home parents because of this.

should be free - gets more people in the economy working and paying tax

@@hijklmnopreaper Shapiro is probably suggesting that informing people on the root cause is more beneficial in the long run, rather than focusing on a bandaid fix. It’s something worth talking about, even if it’s “truism”.

Destiny's question is not irrelevant but it's not helpful to the broader issue. Ben said you can pour money into these programs to help kids but the change is marginal. It doesn't address the underlying issues of what makes kids encode what they learn. If they have a dysfunctional family or a one parent household, they will on average have a stunted learning experience in the classroom. It seems to me that Destiny is plugging holes in the failing ship and Ben is try to bring it to dry dock to restore the wood. In other words, Destiny is worrying about the immediate problems, Ben is focused on the broader problem.

​@@MrFunzerker For me this is conservative grift on full display. Person A says "here is something that statistically helps children." Conservative says "yeah but there are things that can do that are MORE helpful" Person A "okay lets do them" Conservative "we can't its down to them to sort out themselves" Person A "okay so lets do the things we can to help children" Conservative: "its not THE most effective thing possible so lets do nothing"

I'll assume you are talking about divorce. Then "Children" is carrying your argument. is not a conscious experience until week 22 to 24 of gestation. And guess what, that's exactly were the scientific community advise us to declare the limit for abortion, and most countries follow it. Most reasonable progressives are against abortion after that period, unless some extreme conditions are met, like rape or risk of dying.

Isnt it the opposite? Destiny is saying that to improve schooling and education now we cant just go give every kid a loving caring family, but what we can do is give them better environments in school to increase the kids abilities to engage. The problem with schooling is solved by improving the schools, yes having kids have a loving caring 2 parent household also does improve outcomes, but thats not legislatable while improving the quality of school environments can be. The 2 parent household is a separate factor, yes it does have an impact, but thats not something that can be solved within the schools while what destiny advocates for is providing tangible things to help improve the lives of kids today because regardless of whether they have a 2 parent household or not, improving the quality of schools will in turn increase kids engagement.

@@savvy1530 But none of that affects the big picture. They're micro improvements when a macro change is needed. Even the way you describe it is more feel good and virtue signaling forms of help rather than going to the root causes of the issues. Money is spent en masse and the districts that spend the most often have the worst test scores. Look at Los Angeles and New York city. They have air conditioning, and the things he talks about but it doesn't make a difference one bit. Most schools in the southern part of the US all have AC, that's just a given so with what that's talking about is only a small portion of schools that don't have it so then it affects the problem at even a smaller level.

@@cchavezjr7 the problem isn't solving the big picture the problem is solving the issues in school, and and isn't it virtue signaling to say that the solution to problems in education is in the home... because you are literally assigning your virtue onto the problem. Like I said yes a perfect home life would help some problems with education that kids face, but a perfect home life isn't going to fix bad school environments within the school. Even kids with perfect homes can face issues engaging in school if the school environment isn't up to standards expected of producing positive learning results. Saying the solution is at home is the virtue signal. its not ignoring the big picture to say that to improve education results you try to improve the education environment, sure having a good home improves that, but like I said that isn't legislatable. And when aiming to produce positive results for all Americans we should look at what causes some schools to produce negative spaces to engage kids in learning and education, and when there are possible ways to improve outcomes we should aim to accomplish what we see provides better results for all. I understand your concerns but it feels that you didn't understand destiny's point at all.

@@NeverSawThem It's still THE issue that's causing most of the problems. Also, parents need to become more engaged in the education process such as going to school board meetings, looking at the homework regularly, etc. Air conditioning is stupid to hang your hat on as an improvement in the education process as if that's going to be a cure to anything other than just patting yourself on the back for doing something without even knowing what will happen or caring. Like I said, the vast majority of schools already have AC, It's part of any building requirements along with central heating.

I can say I actually have worked personally on schools and to try to make them better. I have served 4 years on a school board. Has he or you? I know what goes on in the funding process and what many studies show on what works and what doesn't work. AC is something implemented in every single new school built so it's a non issue.

I guess you think that your one anecdotal experience means that all 330 million people in this country will have the same experience. 🤡

You are right, I know a lot of people who got married very early by society's standards and they are happy. Money is a bit of a struggle for them but they are making it work.

“I can do it, why can’t you do it?”