Great review! Easy to listen - not as boring as 99% of similar comparisons... sincere presentation, good sense of humor and detailed justification... Fun to watch!
Great review. Love both of these guns. I have an SP-01 Tac and several Beretta 92 models. My favorite is my Elite LTT. The Beretta 92 is much easier to work on for me for sure. Really have a hard time picking between them!
@@thegunpenguin my 92 saw me reading this reply from you and now it's like HEY MAN when we goin to the range too. totally agree .. it's a platform I trust always with my life. thank you again!
I really appreciate the kind words, and thank you for watching. It's always a pleasure to hear from someone who loves Berettas as much as I do. I wouldn't mind having a 96 myself!
Both are gorgeous and I'm a fan of both brands. Best looking handguns ever designed IMO. I could never pick just one and would be happy with either. I think the 92 is just a bit sexier or macho, but I also appreciate the weirdness of the CZ styling. Just bought a P-09 because CZ grew on me.
Really nice review, love the objective and subjective information. I have both these on my buy list; not sure which one I’ll get first. Either way I’m getting both.
The safety version or the SP01 has a markedly better trigger action. Decocker mechanism impedes the smooth action of the trigger. Try comparing the decocker against the safety version. You will immediately notice the difference. That's why I chose the SP01 safety version...tack driver in stock condition.
We agree on the trigger comparison and the grips. Finally someone said what I was thinking on the beretta grips. They aren't that thick. Im going to do the trigger job on my CZ as well along with palm swell grips and then compare. They are both the best for me as far as metal frame DA/SA and I have medium sized hands as well.
Bought my first Beretta today. I was 75 percent on the fence about the Beretta, but with so many versions I was having a hard time pulling the trigger (no pun intended) on what 9mm Beretta I wanted to invest in. You’re in-site and way of breaking down the diff between the two the guns and the whole ins and outs of the A192 By no means was I considering the CZ not because it’s a non worthy pistol just not on my radar. CZ doesn’t fit my hand or nor do I like the machine especially after watching your video Either way appreciated your review so much after watching the break down. And as a result I benefited with a amazing purchase today thank you
good review of both! I have a CZ 75D for my CC gun and was looking at the SP01 for a full size, but then started considering a Beretta because, well, it's a Beretta. What would you pick between a 92A1 and 92X?
This is a superb and excellent video, with accurate observations and sensible comments. I was a big enthusiast for the CZ's, but this guy made me look at the 92A1 with some lewd attraction, as to wanting to get one immediately !!!
No one can blame you there! This review was genuinely hard to do, because both of these are astoundingly great. You can't lose with either. But yeah, I'm very biased too. Thanks for watching, and great to hear from you!
Haha! You sure do! Everybody does! I need to buy a second 92 to take some pressure off this one. Do you have a gun you like so much that you accidentally ignore most of your others? Maybe the SP-01 is like that for you.
thegunpenguin oh absolutely! My sp01 shadow is the only one that sees competition. It’s also the one I’ll carry on my hip when we go shooting, and it’s the one I like to show off to my buddies. Not a bad idea with having a second one to take the pressure off... lol
Haha! You've got great taste. A shadow 2, with the blue grips, is in my future. If I could go back in time, I would've done what you did, and buy the Shadow from the start. I knew I wanted that one, but I didn't listen to my gut, and reason overtook me. Not that you need the opinion of some random dumbdumb on RU-vid, but you made a stellar choice, in my mind.
Two things that will make the CZ slide a little easier and smoother to rack: 1) Ditch the heavy duty stock recoil spring and replace it with a 13lb spring from Cajun Gun Works (the stock spring 18lb(?) is intended for +P NATO rounds, and overkill if you just plan to run standard 9mm ammo) 2) Lightly grease the slide rails with the moly grease that CGW offers. After doing those two simple and cheap things, mine slides like butter.
13 lb springs are fine for practice but if you ever do shoot =p you will be wasting your money if you don't put the 18lb spring back in. The 13 lb spring allows the gun to start cycling before all the gas from the gunpowder has done it's job pushing the bullet allowing gas to escape through the ejection cycle which will result in slower fps than the =p ammo should be.
Cool video! Two great guns to compare because they are both awesome and they are so similar. It would be like Glock 17 vs M&P 2.0 I am a die hard CZ fan but also love Berettas. Ya can't go wrong with either one.
I've got a Cougar, I still haven't picked up the Storm. But, I will say this, the Cougar has a similar weight, and the recoil is hilariously minimal. Seriously, it's almost funny. This sort of thing almost always sounds silly, but it feels like it's firing .32s or .380s or something. Otherwise, the 92A1 is the softest-shooting pistol I've owned. If I had to be pointlessly subjective and try to quantify it, I'd say the 8000 has 30% less recoil. The Storm, to me, feels about on par with the 92A1, which is impressive to me considering how much lighter it is. The rotating barrel is an unexploited gem of an operating principle that needs to be further developed and refined.
Sorry, I completely forgot to answer the other part of your question. As far as mechanical accuracy, I have no idea, about pistol that I own. Or, I should say that none of them are inaccurate enough that it starts to be apparent. As for how shootable the guns are, which is probably what you were asking anyway, the 8000s/Storms feels great and are easy to get great hits with. On both guns, the trigger is slightly crisper than that of a stock 92-series gun, with a shorter reset out of the box. You can get a 92 to the same place with a little bit of work, but the rotating-barrel guns need no help. The lack of muzzle flip makes for double tap pairs that are very close together, and start to feel almost mechanical. The triggers and recoil impulse will make you feel like you have super-human sight-alignment abilities!
That's awesome! I'm really glad you enjoyed the Beretta. I probably get annoying, going on and on about them all the time, but they are just so damn great. Both the SP-01 and the Beretta are such great guns, it's rather crazy how cheap both are. As always, I appreciate you watching, and thanks for taking the time to comment. PS If you end up getting one, let me know how you like your Beretta long-term!
While the Beretta is a fine pistol the CZ just fits me better the Beretta is just has to large a grip to be comfortable in my hand. The CZ on the other hand fits better than any other pistol I own and I like the trigger on the CZ better. but that is just personal opinion.
That was quite the love speech towards that beretta at the end of the video wasn't it??..... And I feel exactly the same way towards my m9a3 and 92x performance!👍👍
Why r u using the front serrations on the sp01? The rear serrations are much deeper and forward swept which makes it bite hard into your fingers. If you are trying to push a box backwards do you grab it close to the front and pull it back or do you pull it from the rear to be most efficient?
Was in a gun store the other day for like 3 hours just holding each one and trying the triggers. Back n forth, back n forth, back n forth. I felt like the beretta trigger was definitely better, and looks cooler and iconic. The cz just fit my hand way better though. The grip is too thick on the beretta for my hand it felt awkward to hold. I wound up picking the cz sp01. Came with fiber optic sights, pretty nice trigger and fit my hand like a glove. I feel like the fit in my hand is the most important thing to me usually. Im a trigger snob too but it’s not worth it when I could just swap the trigger if I need to
Hey! great video man. I picked up my 45C Friday last week and I've been In love with it since. whips and chains if ya know what I mean. Shoots great and i'm just glad to finally have a 45 as well. I had to wait 72 hours for the background check as always because I live in Illinois, just 20 min outside of Chicago. They also had to ship it over the border of Indiana because that's where I bought it. But anyways thanks for making me want a Beretta 92A1 now ya damn jerk. I wanted that P2000 and you go ahead and show me that beautiful pistol. lol jk but seriously man I'm gonna buy one. I think I said this before, maybe not, I know very little about Beretta and I've been looking at them lately. Not for any particular reason, I just haven't had the thought, but now I definitely want that 92A1. I love beautiful, Go To War handguns and like you said, they're great battle proven shooters. My dad owned a Beretta years back before I was born and I wish he kept it now. My dad has always had an eye for the pretty guns. He owns the most beautiful shotguns I've ever seen and if a Beretta pistol caught my fathers eye back then, you know it's a looker. I'm sorry to ask all these questions man, but is there anything I should look for buying a 92A1? Are they all equal or are some better than others? Anything else I should keep in mind? Are they generally easy to come by in a gun shop? Thanks again for everything and keep up the great work!
I'm glad you're liking the HK -- that's a damn fine gun. Oh, you'll just have to buy a 92A1, there's just no way around it. Speaking of Beretta and shotguns, I've been saving my pennies for a really nice Beretta over/under for months now. Those fucking things are works of art. Your dad sounds like he's got great taste! As for the 92A1, there's only this one model, luckily, in 9mm. The 96A1 is a .40, but other than that, there aren't any others that are too similar. You definitely want the 92A1 over the M9A1 though, so that you can change the front sight, and there are some other differences as well. In some places these are fairly common, but they aren't nearly as easy to find as some of the other stuff that you and I like. No shit, the 92A1 is the most reliable gun I've ever owned, to the point that I trust it completely. I've been very, very mean to that gun. Great to hear from you, and I hope you snag one of these soon. IIf you need any Beretta info, let me know. I've spent a lot of time working on these, customizing my own Berettas, and I'm happy to share.
Nice! My father has a side by side Beretta shot gun. Beautiful guns man. I can tell your passion for the Beretta is for good reason. I've been reading up on them, and yeah I was going to ask you what the difference was between the 92A1 and the M9A1 so thanks for letting me know. Went to the gun store a couple days ago and they didn't have one so i'm going to just order one. Thanks for all the info man, much appreciated. Like you, I put a beating on my guns and I want to see what this pistol is made of. I recently bought a CZ P01 Omega and i'm going to buy the 92A1 and I have close to a thousand rounds ready for the range when I get em. Just for a good start
No thanks required. You know I'm down to talk about Berettas, or hell, anything, whenever you like. You're going to love the Beretta, and it'll take the beating happily. By the way, Trijicon recently released the HD night sights for the 92A1, so I'll let you know if those work well on it. Hopefully, I'll order soon. Let me know what you think of the Beretta when it turns up.
These two guns are the closed you could compare. You could compare an original 70s 92 with a 75 or these modern ones. You'll see comparisons between the 92FS/M9 and the 1911s and that makes sense from a military historical perspective but comparing the 92 types to the 75 types, they are the closest contemporaries. You could throw in a Sig 226 but that came later and is too function over form.
Never owned a Beretta 92 but I like the cz75b omega it fits my hand better and when you decock the cz it doesn't make any noise much like most decocker pistols I put five hundred rounds through my new cz and lubricate that slide latch and you can push it out with your thumb you just have to push hard that's all .
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Metal frames are so delightfully reassuring. Though I don't necessarily prefer metal over polymer, there's nothing quite like the reassuring weight of a big-ass CZ, SIG, or Beretta! You've got great taste.
@@akaiphone That's so cool! I'm a big fan of the Desert Eagle myself! Though I'd love to have the .50AE version, I've got a lot of magnum revolver rounds lying around, and I think about picking up one in .357 or .44 every now and then. You're awesome!
Just bought a 92A1 as my first gun! I’ve wanted a 92 for years, and I’m really stoked. I ordered an Alien Gear CloakTuck holster for it, and got my CCW permit as well.
Can you do a video on how to do the D spring trigger upgrades you mention. and what you bought where you got it and all the goods that you do in your videos ?? Thx
Next time I have a Beretta that needs to be converted, I'll film it. It might be be a while, but certainly before the end of the year. Thanks for the suggestion -- several people have asked, and I know it's tough to find a clear guide detailing the process. And it's not particularly easy.
I have both that I purchased within a couple months apart. I enjoy shooting both. I'm extremely accurate with either gun. I'm a little better with the CZ but overall basically about the same. Extremely accurate and couldn't be happier. I have plenty of Glocks which I enjoy but these are on a different level. I'm not saying they're better or worse but obviously these are hammer fired. I hated the grips on the Beretta. Way too slippery for me so I ordered some from lokgrips which gives me a very firm purchase on the pistoy with no sliding whatsoever. Great purchase and of course a different look. the grips on the CZ are perfect and no need to change them. Everything in this video is dead on. Not much I can say other than they are both awesome guns. Great video keep up the good work.
I chose the A1. Daily iwb with it. 18 rounds is good insurance. My only issue is I do not know the best ammo to put in it for sd. I have been using revolvers & new to 9mm.
Though the Beretta was the first pistol I ever purchased, way back in like 1992, my choice would be the CZ. Unfortunately, I can only get ten round magazines so capacity is not a factor in my decision.
@@thegunpenguin Alas, no it was either traded or sold off long ago. I know I'll get another one again eventually. Have owned so many different pistols throughout the years. Have settled down and I am finally ready to start a collection and would like to start off with movie guns. The newly released Walther PPK, of course a Beretta 92, a Browning Hi-Power and the S&W Model 29 to name a few. Would also like to get a Colt SAA, and a Ruger Super Redhawk.
@@jessebitgood3644 That'll be a great collection. The new PPK is very, very nice. I purchased on of the .22 Umarex PPK/S models, but it felt like a toy. My Ruger Redhawk is one of my most treasured possessions, but I don't have a Super yet. You're going to have an awesome collection! Seriously, that's an enviable list.
I am lucky to own both weapons. Yes, the CZ is a pain in the ass to dissemble and rack, and it's heavy; but the weight is why its recoil and muzzle flip is less (to me, anyway). I also prefer the feel of the CZ grip and I shoot better with it. Despite its military origins, the CZ-75 is used in competitions all around the world. I also prefer the decocker to an external safety. Half-cocked, I know it's drop-safe, but ready to go if I need it. I can't really decide which trigger I prefer, you get used to both after a magazine. Both are my favorite handguns. Great review.
I have large (XL to XXL gloves) hands. The Beretta grip is good for me but I know many that have shot mine that say it’s too fat. I also have the SP01 Tactical and Shadow 2. I feel like the CZ grip is slightly better for a broader range of people. I slightly prefer the CZ trigger. I do carry the SP01 (OWB) in the Winter. Very nice video.
I wouldn't mind trying the CZ. I love the 92a1. I like the video it's the 3rd time I've watched it. I think I'm trying to talk myself into getting the one I don't have.
great video up until the point you said you've never accidentally safetied your 92. I had to learn to completely change the way I racked my gun after getting a 92. I accidentally actuated the safety multiple times while training.
So, you don't like the video because your hands are a different shape than mine? I have multiple 92s made across various decades, and I have never once activated the safety. Not one time, not ever. I'm sorry that you have.
I have. The 92FS has fewer features than the 92A1. Personally, I very much prefer the 92A1. The recoil spring is different between the two, but I'm not sure why one would call either inferior. The 92A1 has a captured recoil spring, while the 92FS uses the more traditional uncaptured spring. I have some Berettas with one, some with the other. There's no practical difference.
@@thegunpenguin I've basically set my mind and heart on the 92A1, but wifey has said not yet :( Very sad, one is up on buy and sell in my area and it is a good deal.
2020 has been a helluva year! So I am getting myself presents for Christmas. I'm getting the SP-01 and looking for the 92FS Inox. Which is better in your opinion the Beretta 92A1 or the 92FS?
The 92A1 is absolutely more modern than the FS. Most folks buying the classic 92 are doing so for aesthetic reasons. The 92A1, 92X, LTT, and M9A3 offer far more features.
@@DarlingEbony Happy to help! They're all of equal overall quality, so it really comes down to what you plan to do with the gun. If you're into finely tuned custom pistols, the LTT is the way to go. The M9A3 is sort of the ultimate form of the military M9. The 92A1 is the most robust 92 ever built. The 92X is an ultra-modern defensive option. If you plan to add a compensator, the A3 has a threaded barrel right out of the box. The 92X is the right price. It's tough to recommend one, without context.
@@DarlingEbony The LTT will be the most fun at the range, but it's also the priciest. The 92A1 probably looks the most classic. The 92X is the best value.
which one would be better for small hands though? think i know you will say the CZ. I have been wanting a beretta for a long time but Im worried about the grips. thinking of going with vertex grip model because of that. I have held the beretta 92 fs and it was fine but have not fired one which could change everything
I think it'll really come down to personal preference. I know a very small, gracile female shooter who prefers Beretta 92s over all other pistols. I also know some large gentlemen who find Beretta grips to be excessively fat. You'll have to shoot the guns to really know definitely, but if the 92FS felt fine at the store, it'll probably feel fine at the range, but there's not way to know without firing it, as you say. Are you purchasing the gun for home defense, or range use? As you say, the Vertec is notably slimmer, and for the CZ, you can purchase slim grip panels. The good news is, whichever of the two guns you buy, you're getting an outstanding pistol, one of the best money can buy. I hope this helps!
@@thegunpenguin Thanks for taking the time to reply mate. this will be my first handgun so it'll essentially act as both till I get a compact pistol. so mostly range. I have been torching myself for months over what to get first lol. but like you reiterated. I just need to get my hands on these two and shoot. By the way, your username is great. you need to check out this shirt its perfect for you haha- www.armtheanimals.com/collections/mens-crew-tees/products/mens-penguin-crew lol your gonna love it. if you decide to buy. put it in your cart start the payment process but then back out of it and wait a day. I did this and somone from the company texted me and offered my an additional 10% off.
Im loving cz right now i have czp10 f it shoots great loving the polymer striker but i felt like i wanted more of CZ especially this sp-01! Just waiting till my local gun stores have it. Lol
On your "magazines not droping free" issue - remove the grip panel and take a look - at the rear of the magwell you might find a sheet metal spring thats refered (in the czech manual) as magazine brake - its meant to keep magazines from droping all the way, so that the operater doesnt loose them - you can play with the sheet metal spring sortof or remove it completly if you want to see some smooth falling action
@@blaiwayw1 I've seen a few examples running without it - unless you wanna bathe them in dust or dirst, it should be ok. If you still worry, buy spare one and file/grind/trimm.. the older abit, so that it does allow mag to fall, yet it still stays in place and protects your spring.
I checked the file and I was wrong, I actually used my Sub 37 for that -- I must've wanted to use the sequencer. How do you like the Grandmother? That's a super cool synth.
thegunpenguin Thats awesome, I still want a Sub 37 since I am a hopeless Moog fanboy. The Grandmother is great, you’d like it. Also great videos! The 92A1 is so amazing.
I really appreciate the kind words, and thanks for watching. I'm with you all the way, I'd like to have every Moog ever made. I play guitar for a living, but I'm far more interested in synth, and started with classical piano. To me, Moogs are the best of all worlds. The only thing that disappointed me about the Sub 37 is the lead sound. They bill it as being far closer to the Model D than it actually is. I bought the Sub 37 thinking it would cover all of my bases, and I still needed the Model D sound in the end.
@@thegunpenguin i love it. I was won first of all by how simple it is to maintain and then I just love the feel and the accuracy. I use it on gophers and can't foresee ever getting rid of it.
Awesome review check out my m9a3 did some mods to it not the best video but did what I could with what I had and ur right I don’t think much can beat the beauty that is a beretta I’m going to get an m9 just for the nostalgia
Choosing a one gun over another is just like choosing one guitar over another! It is almost all based upon personal preference! And what sounds better and works better for you!
@@thegunpenguin Analog synthesizers are greatly underappreciated. I know a guy with a Taurus clone of the Beretta but I'm sure it can't compare to the real thing.
I bought a Girsan Regard MC which is an amazingly well made Beretta 92a1 clone ... I mean the machine work and fit and finish is unbelievably good. I got it new for $350 and would be interested in your views of it, I think it was an awesome deal. Came with one 18 round mag but I picked up two 20 rounders (mec-gar) made for a Beretta 92 and they work flawlessly, as do regular Beretta magazines.
I haven't tested any of the Girsans myself, so I can't speak about them in any intelligent way. But, all of the recent Turkish guns I've fired have been excellent, especially the Canik Elites. If your Girsan is on par with those Caniks, it's a very fine gun for the money!
@@thegunpenguin yes it looked distinctly familiar. I felt perflexed, lookes at the mag and the mag well, and a voice said "lube her up", and it was much better. Then after a couple boxes of ammo it still only slides out like a child on an aluminum slide in the dry part of summer. Guess its just a little tight in there. 🤷♂️
If you installed a kit on your Beretta, have you tried the Cajun Gunworks kit for the decocker CZs? It should improve the trigger quite a bit, while all decockers can never quite get where the Shadow Models without the decocker and without the "B" reign.
I've fired several CZs after they returned from Cajun. They do a very, very good job! The stock Beretta trigger, D spring or no, is far better, for my own tastes, than the stock CZ trigger. Post Cajun, the CZs are a bit better, though at huge cost.
@@onpsxmember Cajunized guns tend to feel better to me, as there is variance from one CZ trigger to the next, even among the Shadows. The Cajun parts are more uniform, especially if you have Cajun do the install, which is the best way to go, in my opinion. A truly great Shadow is probably a hair better, while some are a hair worse. Though, really, this is all subjective, and the differences are minute. You end up with a great trigger either way.
@@thegunpenguin In my case I'd have to install it myself or by a local gunsmith cause I have to import the parts (+tax+customs+shipping). Thx for your quick reply.
@@onpsxmember That's understandable. As someone who works on lots of guns, I have to note, your results probably won't be as good, not because you have lesser skill, or your gunsmith does. Only because Cajun installs thousands of those kits a year, and they know the ins and outs in a way that no one else does. But you'll still get 75-80% of the way there.
Wow thanks a lot bud for the shout-out, awesome! As always great, detailed, fun review you got there...lols! Love both guns, but am leaning towards the CZ, imho CZs are more well built and are very sturdy, an example is its barrel with no moving parts like the Berettas locking lugs, less worry less maintenance imo, its a range gun and HD the most appropriate use for it, Berettas could be a CCW coz its a bit lighter, as well as a range and HD gun also, bottom line is for what each users purpose for it that boils down to, anyone would be a great choice, just my 2 cents. Cheers bud!
Im very much on the fence between a CZ tactical and a 1911. I want a steel framed pistol, something, anything other than a polymer frame for a change. It will be a range gun either way, any thoughts?
Hey Brian, great to hear from you! That's a tough decision to make. Which 1911 are you considering? The CZ has an utterly amazing fit, but the trigger is rough, whereas even a cheaper 1911 like the Ruger is going to have a better trigger. I guess I'd personally go with the 1911 for pure shooting pleasure, for the following reasons: 1. The trigger is better. 2. The round is more entertaining to shoot. 3. 1911 recoil is more pleasurable. 4. Often, 1911 controls are more satisfying to manipulate. Since you're only taking it to the range, my usual 1911 complaint about reliability is moot. I have a Ruger 1911 myself, and it has some trouble if I shoot more than 100 rounds through it without lubing it, and even then, I might have 1 failure. But, the gun is really fun to shoot. At the time, I bought it to see if I might want a more expensive custom 1911, and I figured I could tweak it and customize it, and generally turn it into a money pit. It turns out I love 1911s, working on them is really fun, and they are horrible money pits. Anyhow, sorry for writing you a novel. If you need any additional details about my Ruger or the CZ, I'm happy to provide them. Also worth noting: if someone told me that I had to use one of these pistols defensively, I wouldn't even consider the 1911. You have to beg them to work.
@@thegunpenguin hey thanks for the detailed response dude, by the end of the video regarding the trigger and overall weight/market availability , I began to sway in one direction. I know that for a lot of money I can get a CZ DA/SA fixed up nice. But by the time I pay for that, and the gun, I could probably buy a dan wesson or be pretty close. I think I am going with a 1911. Also, I am a basic bitch (and cheap) so the 1911 i will get is going to be 9mm. Id love to prove my girth at the range by flinging 45 shells in everyones face, but well, shit is expensive. Thanks for the great and thoroughly entertaining content and response!
@@Brian-yc3sm I'm always happy to help, if I can. And you're right about the CZ. I'm looking at having Cajun Gunworks do the trigger, and like you said, goddamn, I could've bought something way more interesting for that money. You mention Dan Wesson; that's a good route to go. They seem to make 1911s in 9 and 10mm that actually run reasonably well. Otherwise, buying a 9mm 1911 is hell. I've straight up never seen one that works correctly. But I think it's wise to avoid anything that eats .45 ammo. Every time, it feels like pissing away money, but with extra bonus recoil. 45 is about measuring one's peepee, and being Fuddly. It's fun as fuck to shoot, but hilariously pointless. Personal peeve: people who claim that .45 has less recoil than 9mm. There's this old fella I know that swears to unholy Satan that .45s have less recoil, and he always says, "it's more of a slow push, ya know?" Drives me nuts. He clearly lives on a different planet than the rest of us.
@@teller121 Yep, they do fine work, but then you've got a very, very expensive CZ. At that point, I'd just buy another Beretta. But, I certainly don't blame you for going that route -- I've felt their work, and it's very good.
Hige CZ fan . I own a variant of the CZ in a Jericho 941 . I'd love to see a Berreta with a new frame grip . The Berreta has amazing reliabilty and is one of the best looking semi autos around but the god damn thing feels like a brick in the hand and it makes it hard to shoot. I have large glove size hands and I still barely get my finger on the trigger in DA
That's completely fair -- if it doesn't feel good to you, it isn't a good option. Beretta does offer the slimmer Vertec frame that might be to your liking.
I own mulitple CZs and multiple 92s. If I am forced to pick one, I would go with the 92. I have medium sized hands, but after replacing the grips with the Wilson thin grips and replacing the trigger with the short trigger, it is perfect for me. The 92 is just so much easier to take apart and replace parts.
I'm with you -- though I love both, and have a few of each, I prefer the Beretta. As you say, they are a breeze to work on, with the exception of the safety/decocker mechanism; that shit is complicated! Meanwhile, the CZ's internals are an insane clockwork contraption.
The P-01 is outstanding, but I'm not sure I'd wholeheartedly recommend the compact Beretta. Don't get me wrong, it's a great gun, but they didn't shave down the size quite as much as I'd like.
Check out a CZ 75 PCR D or a CZ RAMI. The RAMI has a fatter slide that's easier to manipulate. I look at Beretta 92 "compacts" more as a smaller duty gun than a compact. I own the PCR and RAMI both decockers and a 92fs frankenberetta.
Great freaking video! I am in the process of getting my first firearm. Live in CA so my options are limited. However luckily these 2 are legal here, which surprisingly look to be the most reliable AND affordable guns on the market 🙌🏼 I always had this 92FS airsoft gun which felt like how a gun should feel, if that makes sense. Anyways really might just go for the Beretta thanks to this extremely biased video. Btw, what trigger upgrade did you perform on the 92? I couldn’t find it in writing.
Thank you for the kind words! Let me know how you like the Beretta; my intense personal bias hasn't waned since I made this video, and the gun is still going. As for the trigger work, I installed the D spring, as most people do, but I also did some action work myself that I wouldn't recommend doing on your own. But, the triggers are excellent right out of the box, and the D spring just shaves off a little pull weight, mostly in DA.
