CZ SP- 01 vs Glock 34 - Does the Czech Heavyweight Recoil less than the Austrian Practical Tactical? 

You're welcome to tell your friends! lol. Seriously though thank you for the kind words.

Only took a few years but he’s got a couple more subs now… only about 120k more

I actually did the opposite - did CZs for like 3 years - switched to carry optics going back to a Glock. At a certain point - the performance is identical. There is no question the CZs are easier to shoot up until that point.

TheHumbleMarksman hold on brother, your last statement made your response rather counter intuitive.

@@That1_CopDude yea, that's a bit confusing but I'll try to shed some light on this one year later... 😂 I think what he's getting at is that once you reach a certain level of proficiency you aren't squeezing out any extra performance from the gun itself anymore, it's all you. And when the gun isn't helping anymore, it then turns into a preference and it sounds like he prefers the Glock. Maybe 🤏

I have small hands I am not a big guy which one do you recommend to star to compete in uspsa production??

@@diegomontejo4657 cz

+younggunner89 until recently the duo tone was imported very very rarely, like the first run in two years showed up at CZC last month. At USPSA production mats last year the CZ brand represented 35% of shooters. The Tanfo is rising in popularity due to its great frame and took some of CZs market share, as 2015 nationals reported 40% CZs used. While a lot of good shooters use CZs, Tanfo has won the last 6 nationals with a few CZs in the top 16, about as many 34s as CZs if we are honest. It's a super popular quality gun but i would jump on a shadow 2 or a Tanfo Stock 2 if I had new gun money today

Glad you found it useful. Which direction are you heading?

No worries, if you have any further questions consider me a resource. The one bit I left out the video that's worth saying is shooting a CZ 1 handed with any sort of accuracy and control is significantly easier in a competitive context.

That's a really good piece of info to keep in mind, regarding one-handed shooting being easier with the CZ. I imagine it's due to that weight.

/// //// also how your hand is able to get behind the gun on the CZ and much less so on the glock

I've fired my brother's Glock 17 several times, and while I do enjoy shooting it I can imagine the CZ would be more ergonomic. He keeps telling me to get a Glock like him, but I've been telling him that once I finally get my hands on a CZ he'll understand why. The guy at the gunstore has been on the lookout for me for a few weeks now. Also I've been scouring online for a while. I almost wonder if CZ stopped making their steel guns, they're so hard to find. I think they're focusing all attention on the P10C. Whatever. Yeah, I want to increase the chance of shooting myself on the leg someday, that sounds nice.

Thanks man! Good luck at Area 6!

Go shoot your SP01!

I will, I will..I Promise! I have a very hectic week this week, but I will get it done asap! Lol Carry On!

they're good guns - don't let the dust cover weight spoil you - make sure you're driving the gun back down out of recoil through passive pressure from the web of your hand and front to back pressure.

Have you had any issues with yours? I just bought my first CZ a few days ago.. an SP-01 manual safety. I ran 200rds of Federal Brass 115gr FMJ and had 2 failures to feed. Today I ran 300rds of Blazer Brass 115gr FMJ and had 2 failures to feed again. All four times the rounds were pointing upward at such a sharp angle they did not feed into the chamber, twice with almost a full mag and twice with about the mag half empty. I have heard the factory mag springs are weak but seeng that the FTF's did not occur on the last few rounds I'm not sure if thats the issue. The pistol is stock and I'm using the factory 18rd mags. I assumed the failures were due to it being a new gun and it just needs to be broken-in, so I did not take note if the FTF's were with the same mag. That being said.. I love the way it feels in the hand and I love how it shoots!

you're too kind.

Cheers, thanks for watching.

Thanks! I am debating finishing up the year on my CZ then going back to the Glock 34 for a year or so just to see what "living" with a high round count Glock is like again.

Thanks for watching. How did the IDPA go?

I did not win the zero down contest but did ok.

Glad you found it helpful! Cheers!

Thanks!

I am a fan of the XFive legion given those options. 226 is a good gun but support for the X5 is better

I assume you're talking about the AccuShadow BLK? With the australian barrel that is proud of the bushing by a little bit? The action work would be the same as the AccuShadow or Shadow Custom. The extra barrel will get you a tiny bit of velocity on your ammo and maybe a little more accuracy over a regular AccuShadow - but I wouldn't pay the upcharge personally for one. Honestly - I wouldn't buy a Shadow Custom over a Shadow 2 now unless you want to play IDPA. The shadow 2 can be made comparable on trigger with very little outlay on parts - an extended firing pin and reduced power springs will cover it.

The firing pin block models need snap caps or an o- ring. The shadows/ PreB models don’t care much. I recommend using one on all pistols for extensive dryfire. Any gun that uses a roll pin to retain the striker needs a snap cap. Glocks need snap caps because you can shatter the breech face - which is significantly more serious than a 5$ roll pin.

TheHumbleMarksman My new g34 gen4 self destroyed in less than a year by opening the breech face (dry practise), I have always used snap caps, ordinary frequency. On all my other pistols (dan wesson, tanfoglio and sti) I have never had such a main failure. I had only changed 1 firing pin on my DW 45 and 2 fp on my tanfoglio (1 for better design, to increase ignition reliability ) and they shot way more than the glock. Also my long guns (ar15, ar9) never broke main parts, in such a short time, shooting + dry practise. Sometimes is better to invest in quality.

@@kittrainbow7 Dry fire damage would be extremely rare in a Glock from what I've been told by several professionals/military marksmen as well as the information that I've read.

@@classicmicrosystems Direct experience is everything, I don't trust many people in the gun comunity. Then everyone is free to make their own choice.

@@classicmicrosystems In my G43X book it is written that occasional dry fire won't damage the gun but for dry fire training is recommended to use snap caps.

That's very much my take on it, and just about anybody else's I've talked to who has to pay for their own guns.

perfectly said, Im a fan of glocks for the simplicity but you just get bored of them, its extremely mediocre in almost every category

I love my simple Glock pistols and I've owned and sold dozens of handguns in an expensive quest trying to find excalibur. There are only 3 pistols I've ever disassembled 100% to their individual parts: Glock, Beretta M9, and 1911 and the Glock was by far the most impressive in its simplicity. That's not everything, but to me its significant and increases my confidence that I can keep my Glocks running in perpetuity and I will never need access to a Gunsmith to do so.

Yes- I would buy the gen 5 hands down. Ergos are better by a good bit, I like the slide finish better. The way the trigger bar connects to the cruciform is way better. I thought I would get a flavor for carry optics on a gen 4 17 MOS- but I can tell now that I wish I had ponied up for the gen 5 34

Good to hear. Was concerned that the lighter slide of the gen 4 would make a difference. I assume since you didn’t bring it up that it does not. Thank you very much.

Both that I shot were mounted with Deltapoint Pros

So with good technique - literally almost anything will do. I assume you want a 9mm. I "downgraded" from the Shadow 2s to the Gen 5 34's because they're more flexible. The M&P m2.0 5" can be bought for a song and is awesome. Sig Sauer X Five they have sorted out now and it's pretty great. Walther Q5 is great. My top 2 choices would be the gen 5 34 (one of the new ones with front serrations) or a Sig Sauer P320 X Five. For carry optics the P320 will be tied into the Romeo 1 optic - which has mixed reviews (and I'm about to mount on my match gun to experiment with). Pretty much any of the guns with Dawson sights are good to go. There's not an obvious " best". I chose the glocks because 1. they're inexpensive and virtually maintenance free. 2. Magazines are stupid cheap. 3. Their CO platform allows backup iron sights. 4. I proved it to myself the guns didn't matter. If the M2.0 was available optics ready I'd have gone that way. The new P10F may be worth considering. in IDPA the 34 is soooo prevalent it's tough to ignore. In USPSA the CZs are super popular - so again a good choice if something were to go wrong - you could borrow someone else's gun and be squared away. Regardless - pick a gun that makes sense in both IDPA and USPSA - you may only shoot one now - but you may expand into the other eventually. Feel free to shoot me an email and I'm happy to discuss it with you. thehumblemarksman at gmail dot com

@@TheHumbleMarksman Wow, thanks for the detailed and informative response. I think I'm leaning toward the G34 gen5...

G34g5 is decent - especially if you're already on the platform. Needs sights and a grip plug out of the box - you can play with the trigger and recoil spring if you have to but the trigger isn't too bad.

@@TheHumbleMarksman I just bought the gen 5 G34 & ordered Dawson sights for it, does the grip plug really matter? I have them in all my other Glocks, but only for aesthetics...

Yes the grip plug makes you miss reloads less. Specifically the Pearce. When you get it dryfire for 5 minutes doing reloads. Install the grip plug then go again and be amazed. It really matters

The CZ 9's are generally "Production" guns, which means the manual safety models must be fully decocked. If you get an extended firing pin and reduce the hammer spring weight to 11.5# or 13# the DA is very manageable. With some practice you don't even notice it.

I have a video on decocking the guns. If you're shooting a CZ in production, having a comp hammer is very advantageous to safely decock despite the large rear target sight it's likely wearing. The ring hammer works OK with the lame sights that come on most of the 75s, but if you get a proper target rear then you'll find your thumb running out of real estate pretty quick.

+John Bobrink hope it helped. Cheers

+Bald&curious I designed it myself assembling a couple designs from the web, then got the marketing gal at my office to spruce it up. Another buddy had good success on fiverr or whatever the website where you can pay 5$ for photoshops and basic stuff like logos or whatever ... managed to put this on the wrong comment - but that's the answer

+TheHumbleMarksman tried that , but I'm really artistically challenged. Lol.

They are mighty nice!

+Johnny Kim for me: absolutely would take an SP01 over a 34, especially for USPSA. Sights and springs and you'd be ready to rock. I personally don't "like" glocks and having a gun you like to compete with is possibly the most important bit of a match gun.

+Johnny Kim yes I would take a basic SP01 over a 34. It would need sights, same as the 34, and for a pretty cheap spring kit would have a better trigger. If you spend real cash for all the go fast parts the trigger is vastly better.

They both are pretty problem free. The glock has fewer maintenance parts - but the level of refinement is also lower. If you're shooting IPSC then CZ is your huckle berry - just know you're on the hook for a firing pin spring, slide stop, trigger return spring every year. If you're talking USPSA/IDPA then the Glock becomes a real contender. Either one can stand up to many thousands of rounds - CZ will just burn up a few more parts in the process.

Hold them both guarantee you buy the cz

@@TheHumbleMarksman the implication then is that yoy have to move "up" to a G34 from a G17 to be a contender to a CZ-75 /SP01. G17 is legal in IPSC but not the 34. P09 vs P10F vs SP01?

I personally don’t see the point of a miniature double stack- I would get something like a Shield or P365, Kahr or a 19/P10c Pistol. Keeping it between those 2 I would say P10c

Great video! I disagree with you on the Glock 26, especially if someone is using that Glock platform for most of their shooting. To then start caring a skinny single stack does not lend itself to familiarity. Confidence is key in using a firearm. Good video though, I subscribed

P10c

The SP01 Shadow is IDPA legal. Nearly as nice in all areas- same trigger. I know you are wanting a hammer gun right now- but since IDPA allows dot guns now- I would recommend building a Carry Optics gun and using that in both.

TheHumbleMarksman thanks I appreciate the input. I’ll take a look at the SP01 Shadow at my lgs tomorrow. In your recommendation, What kind of carry optic gun did you have in mind (G17, g34, etc) ?

I'm actually in the process of building a carry optic gun - I won't spill the beans on what I'm building just yet, BUT it depends how much you want to spend. Inexpensively - you could buy a Canik TP9SFX with a Vortex Venom on it for like $650 and be off to the races. For slightly more you could do a P320 RX (I would advocate for this over the XFive because there are no backup irons on the XFive - just a super shallow dot on the Romeo 1, and the Romeo 1 is somewhat fragile - still probably serviceable for competition.), The Walther Q5 Match, or a Glock 17/34 MOS. I wanted to use the Leupold Deltapoint Pro - so the P320RX was off the table. You can make a Burris Fast Fire 3, Vortex Venom or Viper all work. The DPP has the biggest window and some of the best glass you can get. DPP is not quite as robust as the Trijicon RMR - but it's also about 60% of the price. The DPP will go through batteries quicker too - reports are all over the place - I'll update you guys with what I'm getting after I go through a couple. Glocks have the cheapest magazines and base plates - by a pretty wide margin (this matters for USPSA carry optics). Dawson Precision sells +5/6 baseplates for $32 shipped for the glock. Everyone else will have $40-50 base plates. You want 22+1 in the gun at a minimum. Glocks also have the cheap magpul 21 rounders that are like $20. Canik 21 rounders are maybe $30. Sig sells 21 rounders I think for $40-50. If you want those 2 extra rounds you'll have to buy base plates. The best scenario would be 23+1 - that would be 3 shooting positions in USPSA if you shoot clean (a position can only require 8 shots). For IDPA - it doesn't matter since your'e capped at 10+1. The "best" way would be to mill the slide of a gun to the optic you want. The problem is that adds about $125-150 to the cost of the pistol and you're married to that optic on that gun. I don't think MRDS are quite mature yet and I think the next generation will be appreciably better - so I wanted something that used mounting plates. At NRA this weekend I think Glock is going to drop the G17gen5 MOS and CZ may drop an optics ready gun as well - I think the P10C is already announced as optics ready. Hopefully they do a P09/P10 FULL SIZE that are ready to play.

TheHumbleMarksman my budget for my next gun is around shadow 2 pricing so 1100-1400 range

You could have pretty much any plastic gun you want for that price. - With a dot, mags, base plates, holster. Pretty much any gun seems to be 12-1300 with a Deltapoint Pro on it. so 100-200 for holsters and mag pouches are doable. I'd get a holster and mag set up that is legal for both games and just go nuts.

You're correct - though it's impossible for them to police it beyond first round trigger pull.

Bryan Hadley it’s legal now- it wasn’t legal up until 6 months ago

For carry - 75B. For shooting / home defense - SP01. 75B is still a really good shooting gun so if you like it better get it by all means.

Lol I thought they was honda🗣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

+Johnny Kim the manual safety one is easier to work on and has a slightly better trigger, provided you are OK manually decocking the pistol. It's not hard to do but if it's a concern then the tactical is fine. If you go that route, be sure to buy MecGar magazines.

TheHumbleMarksman if you don't plan to ever carry it, is there ever a reason to manually decock it? I mean I heard you can start c&l for competitions...

depends on which division you shoot. if you're shooting IDPA ESP or USPSA Limited you can start C&L. If you're shooting SSP or Production you need to start hammer down. If you want to shoot limited on a budget I'd recommend the P09 in 40.

@@TheHumbleMarksman Purely out of curiousity - why .40?

Fernando Flores I totally get it. Switching isn’t easy and depending where you are as a shooter you may backslide... a lot of money and time to be certain

Wear a fingerless glove on your dominant hand when you're shooting. I've done that and it helped immensely.

+Captain Ciph3r every gun and every hand is different. I am speaking on the level of dryfiring 15-1hr every day and shooting at least once a week.

Yeah, any time i'm at my computer, I'm dry firing my 19, and I get to shoot pretty much every day, at least a couple of magazines every time. No Glock knuckle that I can tell. Very good video though, that part just confused me, it was the first I've heard of it. I get 75B thumb though, the beavertail on my 75B rubs on the web of my thumb and leaves a red U shape, especially if I shoot with my thumb on the safety, which is what I instinctively do, due to a few years of shooting 1911s.

That's interesting, it might be how you're gripping your middle knuckle isn't rubbing. mine certainly did. I shot glocks in competition for about a year before moving on and I got a very pronounced callous on my middle finger, which is still visible to this day (nearly 3 years later). Several other guys I shoot with have that issue and the guy at the gun shop actually introduced me to the term. "Oh yeah Glock Knuckle"... I swear I didn't make it up! If you google it, there's no shortage of photos supporting it being something more than I just made up.

Oh I believe you entirely, it's just the first i've heard of it. What I DO get is a callous on the inside of my middle finger joint, from gripping the gun and rubbing on those grip-bumps during draws. I squeeze the thing like I'm gonna break it though.

@@TheHumbleMarksman dry firing for 15 hours a day you are a madman.

Just so you know I thumbs down’s this comment

@@TheHumbleMarksman I hearted In spirit

Standard duty is G19 from Navy SEALs. Glocks don't suck, they just have a purpose.

@@dancruze Overrated.