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Best Actress/Supporting Actor Oscar Duos Ranked! 

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@williamreed2558
@williamreed2558 Месяц назад
Yes, Vivien Leigh and Karl Malden set a precedent for excellence it will be hard to ever equal in Streetcar. Let's crown them for drama male/female duo and then second Liza Minnelli and Joel Grey for musical duo. These are cinematic greats
@patburke5740
@patburke5740 Месяц назад
Both pairs set the bar very high.
@williamreed2558
@williamreed2558 Месяц назад
@@patburke5740 Indeed. I think if George Segal had won Supporting Actor for Virginia Woolf, a very credible win, he and Liz Taylor would enter that eschelon; but he didn't( He and Robert Shaw would have been more deserving than Walter Matthau).
@patburke5740
@patburke5740 Месяц назад
Agreed, Robert Shaw was superb in a man for all seasons. Streetcar and Virginia wolf are the most deserving there has ever been of 4 acting oscars.
@oscarman42
@oscarman42 Месяц назад
Sounds good to me!
@oscarman42
@oscarman42 Месяц назад
@@williamreed2558 Interesting thought, William. I thought Segal was excellent.
@rlmack5
@rlmack5 Месяц назад
Liza and Joel.
@oscarman42
@oscarman42 Месяц назад
Quite a dynamic duo!
@DarkAngel459
@DarkAngel459 Месяц назад
Vivien and Karl are my favourite pairing. They had the most interesting dynamic, and the last scene between them is phenomenal and devastating (helped by Tennessee's writing of course). But I do love Liza and Joel singing 'Money Money' together. Fun fact - The song's lyrics inspired the lyrics for ABBA's, 'Money, Money, Money.'
@oscarman42
@oscarman42 Месяц назад
Leigh and Malden are pretty hard to beat, aren't they? Of course, the entire ensemble is iconic.
@kellie-nd1yp
@kellie-nd1yp Месяц назад
1. Michelle Yeoh and Ke Huy Quan . I have known so many couples like them in this film the cynical woman and the kindhearted man . 2. Liza Minelli and Joel Grey -dazziling 3.Patricica Neal and Melvyn Douglas -their scenes may not be the most critical to the plot but they are critical to the characters and showing the contrast to Hud . 4. Frances MacDormand and Sam Rockwell -I don't care for the film but their chemsity is is what holds it together. 5. Hilary Swank and Morgan Freeman another film I don't care for nor do I care for the wins .Hilary was third or fourth place for me that year .Freeman has had stronger performances and made more of an impact in other films but they punch nus in the gut . 6. Vivien Leigh and Karl Malden -Technically perfect but it doesn't really move or excite me . 7.Shirley MacLaine and Jack Nicholson . This began a new phase for Shirley she's played similar characters ever since .I have Winger ,Alexander and Streep ahead of her that year. I don't think the chemisty was there . Jack was just playing some version of Jack . I wish Reynolds had taken the role while not a favorite of mine he would have been more convincing in that role. I would have had a different actress playing Aurora too .
@oscarman42
@oscarman42 Месяц назад
We're almost at complete opposites! Just proves that films (and the Oscars) are a subjective exercise. Thanks for the great input!
@GeorgiiAird
@GeorgiiAird Месяц назад
so nice to see this rarity of an agreement on MacLaine/Nicholson duo, they’re so about nothing in the film, together or separately
@oscarman42
@oscarman42 Месяц назад
@@GeorgiiAird I always thought they were a popular duo...just goes to show...
@kellie-nd1yp
@kellie-nd1yp Месяц назад
@@GeorgiiAird I know it's popular but I don't see in it what other do. I do prefer Winger and Lithgow.
@kellie-nd1yp
@kellie-nd1yp Месяц назад
@@oscarman42 Pretty opposite except for one or two. They interesting part is the dynamics with the various duos varies quite a bit .
@danginley8802
@danginley8802 Месяц назад
I've been waiting a year for this episode!!!! Fantastic scene selection truly getting the best of both parts. The closing scene in Three Billboards is masterclass, Leigh and Malden were transcendent and I'm going to be singing Money, Money alk night. (I believe Joel Grey won on his performance merit, many say the three Godfather supporting actors split the vote). Never knew Bullock was considered for Million Dollar Baby and turned it down in favour of Miss Congeniality 2, wow! Still, she did get the Oscar that Carey Mulligan lost in 2009.
@oscarman42
@oscarman42 Месяц назад
Wow - apologies for keeping you waiting so long! Please let me know if there are subjects you want to see covered on the channel. Your input and support are always appreciated.
@danginley8802
@danginley8802 Месяц назад
@@oscarman42 I'm happy with all subjects and just enjoy the mix. But this topic more so because Supporting Actor is my favourite award, Lead Actress is my most knowledgeable award. Though, I view the Screenplay Awards as (my opinion only) the most important awards.
@oscarman42
@oscarman42 Месяц назад
@@danginley8802 I didn't know that! I'll look into working on a Supporting Actor video 😄
@gilnaught7902
@gilnaught7902 Месяц назад
Wasn't the point of "Everything Everywhere..," that in the main alernate story, they were in a bad relationship. The relationship took on different dimesions based on the timeline they were in. The clips you chose were from the unhappy one. I thought they had plenty of chemistry as the movie star and her producer/ husband. And the superhero timeline was supposed to be slapstick/funny. Why choose outakes to prove your point when they weren't in character. Those were clips of the actors goofing around on set.
@oscarman42
@oscarman42 Месяц назад
I am aware of the storyline - it's my opinion that the actors didn't have chemistry with one another (Yeoh was excellent and should have been paired with another actor). This is all for fun - don't take it so seriously!
@jonathanvelazquezph.d.2719
@jonathanvelazquezph.d.2719 Месяц назад
Yeoh probably had more chemistry with Stephanie and Jamie than with Huy Quan.
@oscarman42
@oscarman42 Месяц назад
@@jonathanvelazquezph.d.2719 I concur with you on that!
@Kevin-rg3yc
@Kevin-rg3yc Месяц назад
Surprised by how low key and Michelle I loved their chemistry it was portrayed as them being unhappy so when they finally show their love by the end of the film it was quite believable and so emotional although I do agree Michelle’s chemistry with Stephanie hsu especially and Jamie Lee Curtis were more stronger So far my favorite has to be Liza and Joey ohh gosh so I love cabaret and I love the dynamic between sally and the host I want to see the new immersive experience revival this year here in my hometown NYC but them tickets are …umm unpurchaseable 😂😂😂
@oscarman42
@oscarman42 Месяц назад
I heard about the Cabaret revival of the other day...I can only imagine the co$t of tickets!
@GeorgiiAird
@GeorgiiAird Месяц назад
Ah I never knew this Jennifer Jones & Terms of Endearment trivia connection. She would’ve been perfect in a role, I have problems with MacLaine in this incarnation and Nicholson’s autopilot presence; now talk about Winger + Lithgow, they operate on another level for me, such a tender duo & storyline. It looks like I can solidly call Leigh + Malden almost close to perfection kind of pair of winners, but I don’t get excited whenever their names are popping up in this regard. To my surprise, I feel gutpubched these days apropos to Swank/Freeman. And I don’t like his win very much! So that’s a shift 😮 Honorable mention to Minnelli & Gray. Yet once again, not my personal winners. McDormand et Rockwell - burn to death 💀🔥 Yeoh + Quan - Indifferent, but fun in their own way. and then I noticed the video didn’t show me legendary wins of Patricia Neal & Melvyn Douglas - woof, at least something impeccable for me to satisfy my selectiveness. Wins for ages, I will die on the hill defending Neal’s crownery as well 😈
@oscarman42
@oscarman42 Месяц назад
Neal and Douglas were mentioned - but as stated in the video, there are no scenes of them interacting with one another.
@GeorgiiAird
@GeorgiiAird Месяц назад
@@oscarman42 got it while properly rewatching the intro; doesn’t make an issue for me, their performances still holds refreshing, strikingly modern
@oscarman42
@oscarman42 Месяц назад
@@GeorgiiAird I'm not discounting their performances - I just couldn't fairly assess them as I did the others because Neal/Douglas had no scenes as a "pair."
@GeorgiiAird
@GeorgiiAird Месяц назад
@@oscarman42 got your point, absolutely :) It would only strengthen the film and their performances had they even more screen time before the final editing took place to forge their fate, communicating together or rather on their own terms
@oscarman42
@oscarman42 Месяц назад
@@GeorgiiAird Guess all we can do is ponder...or perhaps, write our scenario(s) 😉
@tolgak2717
@tolgak2717 Месяц назад
Vivien Leigh-Karl Malden and Shirley McLaine-Jack Nicholson.
@oscarman42
@oscarman42 Месяц назад
Two great duos indeed.
@WonderWhatHappened
@WonderWhatHappened Месяц назад
I don't know how I ended up reading about Sheldon Collins from the Andy Griffith Show after watching this video.
@oscarman42
@oscarman42 Месяц назад
I'll bite - please share with us.
@WonderWhatHappened
@WonderWhatHappened Месяц назад
@@oscarman42 I remember Jack Nicholson being in a couple of episodes of The Andy Griffith Show and one episode Season 7 , Episode 10 he was on and had a scene with Opie's friend, Arnold (Sheldon Collins) who in real life now is a Dentist in Colorado. I quit the rabbit hole because I would probably end up somewhere in the dark web if I continued.🤣🤣
@oscarman42
@oscarman42 Месяц назад
@@WonderWhatHappened I learn something new every day! I wasn't a big Mayberry fan (Aunt Bee annoyed me), so maybe that's why I missed this. Hey - well gotta start somewhere!
@topherv4229
@topherv4229 Месяц назад
MacLaine/Nicholson, Leigh/Malden and then Minnelli/Grey....the other films I haven't seen or haven't seen in a very long time (eg. Hud)
@oscarman42
@oscarman42 Месяц назад
We agree - just in a different order 😉
@FritzandtheOscars
@FritzandtheOscars Месяц назад
If you simply go by how the duo worked together, then the winners have to be MacLaine and Nicholson
@oscarman42
@oscarman42 Месяц назад
That's how I ranked them - thanks Fritz!
@isabelbeckerman9226
@isabelbeckerman9226 Месяц назад
Vivian Leigh and Carl Malden were mind-blowing in A Streetcar Named Desire (1951), and Liza Minnelli and Joel Grey, musically, were smashing in Cabaret (1972), who won Oscars for their resounding performances. But the duo achievement between Shirley Maclaine and Jack Nicholson in Terms of Endearment (1983) is my choice as the most appealing and beloved of any of the acting couples in this poll. What is confounding regarding the lead actors is they are an unlikely pair to work together. But Oscar winners Jack and Shirley's commitments in this film are so well-acted, mixed with humor and heartache, that Aurora's (Maclaine) interludes with Garrett (Nicholson), a womanizing ex-astronaut and next-door neighbor, are quite tenuous but heartwarming. Even the dialogue between them is enchanting in every sense throughout the movie and packs a real emotional wallop, even in its tragic conclusion. It's most unfortunate they can't work again after the sequel to the 1983 film due to Nicholson's recent health issues, despite Maclaine wanting to work with him on another film project before concluding her acting career. It's a shame it can't be so. 😞
@oscarman42
@oscarman42 Месяц назад
I always thought the way these two actors played off each other was like watching a professional tennis match. Each bounced off the other beautifully.
@isabelbeckerman9226
@isabelbeckerman9226 Месяц назад
@@oscarman42Oscarman42, I applaud you👏 for your exceptional assessment of these two prominent actors. I couldn't agree with you more. 😆🤟
@PC1974
@PC1974 Месяц назад
Liza and Joel were my favourites. I'm not normally into musicals but Cabaret was brilliant in every way.
@oscarman42
@oscarman42 Месяц назад
I've seen it several times and am always entertained, particularly by their one number together.
@PC1974
@PC1974 Месяц назад
@@oscarman42 Money Money Money was a real classic of musical cinema.
@oscarman42
@oscarman42 Месяц назад
@@PC1974 I dare say it was the best number of the film.
@josephmvalentino
@josephmvalentino Месяц назад
Shirley McLean and Jack Nicholson were the best
@oscarman42
@oscarman42 Месяц назад
I thought they had great chemistry together.
@user-dm1vn1ug5c
@user-dm1vn1ug5c Месяц назад
Good afternoon, all: I have a question. I noticed that in various forums, a lot of people are highly critical of Hilary Swank's performance in MILLION DOLLAR BABY. I thought she was most deserving. Any opinions?
@oscarman42
@oscarman42 Месяц назад
I'm not one of that opinion. I think she was excellent and deserved the Oscar. But I've also seen dislike of her work (here and elsewhere) - everyone has their reasons!
@Nicovertime
@Nicovertime Месяц назад
Neal/Douglas ❤
@oscarman42
@oscarman42 Месяц назад
I think it would have been great if these two characters had at least one interaction with one another (maybe it was cut out?).
@Nicovertime
@Nicovertime Месяц назад
@@oscarman42 yes. Alma serves them dinner and homemade peach ice cream and then they're on the porch and never seen together again. Always wanted to read the book to see if there's any mention of Lon's parents and their fate
@oscarman42
@oscarman42 Месяц назад
@@Nicovertime Now that would have been fascinating!
@outinsider
@outinsider Месяц назад
I think each contributes to their own here in the best for the year. Best Lead and Best Supporting is really a matter of navigating certain points in the story and how they relate and change each other. Vivien and Karl had a blossoming romance with their characters as we see Blanche's rekindling of illusion. When it darkens and truths come out, Mitch's shattering is our shattering and Blanche needs the illusion. Neal and Douglas are both foibles to Paul Newman's Hud character. Their distance is intentional almost. Douglas has a more moral approach to his character's son. Neal experiences the brutality more upclose, and makes strides Douglas cannot. Their relation by not relating because Hud has some semblance of control over both. Liza and Joel's characters relationships was layered. He knew her better than she allowed herself with Brian. She knew she was his star attraction. The Money song is musical frosting, but the cake under it is the scenes where they look at each other and say nothing verbal. Frances and Sam's characters were beautifully antagonistic. It doesn't exactly resolve in the end. There is still a tension. I haven't seen EEATO yet, but I can assume the detachment reflects their characters' detachment well and chemistry in a conflicted relationship doesn't have to mean likeability.
@oscarman42
@oscarman42 Месяц назад
Certainly a fair assessment, though I don't see all of these pairs in the same way. Thanks for the thoughtful response.
@Robert-zx2ir
@Robert-zx2ir Месяц назад
Swank and Freeman are my favorites in this vid. McDormand and Rockwell were pretty spectacular as well.
@oscarman42
@oscarman42 Месяц назад
Someone else here pondered as to why many seem to dislike Swank/Freeman in this film. Maybe because it's a tough one to watch?
@Robert-zx2ir
@Robert-zx2ir Месяц назад
@@oscarman42I wouldn’t say it’s “tough to watch,” but it’s certainly dreary and downcast to watch, but Eastwood always manages to get the performances out of the thespians he casts and that’s why Freeman and Swank snagged their Oscars.
@losfeliz3485
@losfeliz3485 Месяц назад
I hated "Three Billboards..." the way you hated "EEAAO"...although I'd have to agree, ZERO chemistry between Yeoh and Quan...I think Terms of Endearment shows nicely what this thought provoking video is about...Two old pros going at it. Thanks! (and why is Swank, after 2 Oscars, kinda diddling around Hollywood???)
@oscarman42
@oscarman42 Месяц назад
I didn't 'hate' EEAAO (Yeoh and Hsu were excellent)...but tell me why you disliked Billboards. I've only watched it once, but remember being intrigued by the story. As for Swank - agree with you 100%!! Oscar curse striking again??
@losfeliz3485
@losfeliz3485 Месяц назад
@@oscarman42 I found Three Billboards embraced violence way too much...like it was a choice they made...fine...but I felt the characters were ugly and something about it did not ring sincere in any way...
@oscarman42
@oscarman42 Месяц назад
@@losfeliz3485 Appreciate you sharing your thoughts.
@losfeliz3485
@losfeliz3485 Месяц назад
@@oscarman42 as you know, movies are weird..I was probably expecting something else from that film...
@jonathanvelazquezph.d.2719
@jonathanvelazquezph.d.2719 Месяц назад
You're not alone on your sentiments about EEAAO. Michelle Yeoh probably had more chemistry with Jamie Lee Curtis and Stephanie Hsu than with Key Huy Quan. My favorite two are the Streetcar and Billboards duos. Their onscreen chemistry (and performances) get better and better as the films progress and end.
@oscarman42
@oscarman42 Месяц назад
What's ironic is that I actually voted for Yeoh for SAG that year, I thought she was that good. I just don't think Quan was the best choice casting-wise. As for the two pairs you mentioned - 💯
@joeburinskas8672
@joeburinskas8672 Месяц назад
Vivien and Karl, Joel and Liza, Shirley and Jack, and this is the only decent performance he ever gave, must have been because he was playing against Shirley.
@oscarman42
@oscarman42 Месяц назад
MacLaine has told several stories about how much she enjoyed working with Nicholson - great chemistry!
@patburke5740
@patburke5740 Месяц назад
The top 3 are perfect, I'd have neal and Douglas placed higher. The top 3 pairings are all outstanding.
@oscarman42
@oscarman42 Месяц назад
They would have, but they had no interaction with one another in the film, so I couldn't really assess them in that regard. I wish the script had included at least one scene of just them together - I think it would have been powerful.
@patburke5740
@patburke5740 Месяц назад
​@oscarman42 I see, yes a missed opportunity for sure. Your top 3 are spot on. Pacino and caan would have made great best supporting actor winners for the godfather but Joel grey is so damn good in cabaret. Magnificent pairing, Judy garland would have been so proud.
@oscarman42
@oscarman42 Месяц назад
@@patburke5740 I wonder if Douglas and Neal had a scene that was cut out....
@patburke5740
@patburke5740 Месяц назад
Now that would be worth a watch!
@blackamerican40
@blackamerican40 Месяц назад
However wait! Aren't A Streetcar Named Desire and Everything And Everyone All At Once also the only 2 films to win a leading Oscar and both supporting Oscars? 🤔
@oscarman42
@oscarman42 Месяц назад
Indeed they are!
@leightonbate7516
@leightonbate7516 Месяц назад
Liza and Joel,both indelible and irreplaceable.
@oscarman42
@oscarman42 Месяц назад
And all with one scene...definitely iconic!
@user-dm1vn1ug5c
@user-dm1vn1ug5c Месяц назад
I have never been a big fan of CABERET on stage or on film. I find CABERET to be so depressing that I consider CABERET to be a musical tragedy. Nonetheless, I have no problem with Minelli and Grey winning their Oscars, they were sensational. CABERET get revived a lot on stage and I think the roles of Sally and the Emcee attract actors of different stripes. I do wish Liza Minelli would lose the Sally Bowles look and return to a less made up look. She was quite attractive in THE STERILE CUCKOO.
@oscarman42
@oscarman42 Месяц назад
It doesn't look like we're going to be seeing much of Liza these days.
@johntakvam
@johntakvam Месяц назад
I hated EEAAO. I still don’t know what it’s about. One of the ten worst Best Picture winners of all time-and I’ve seen them all
@michelehamilton961
@michelehamilton961 Месяц назад
@johntakvam If you have Crash, Gigi and Cavalcade and think EEAAO is worse maybe you have a taste issue.
@johntakvam
@johntakvam Месяц назад
@@michelehamilton961Those three are also unworthy of the honor. Cavalcade is dead last for me
@oscarman42
@oscarman42 Месяц назад
I haven't come up with that list (yet), but I do think it's one of most undeserving winners.
@user-zt3wf5ye2i
@user-zt3wf5ye2i Месяц назад
I despise that asian movie... All the others are terrific.
@oscarman42
@oscarman42 Месяц назад
I don't think it was an "Asian movie." But I was not a fan either.
@gilnaught7902
@gilnaught7902 Месяц назад
That "Asian" movie???? Tell on yourself, I guess.
@jonathanvelazquezph.d.2719
@jonathanvelazquezph.d.2719 Месяц назад
😮
@oscarman42
@oscarman42 Месяц назад
@@jonathanvelazquezph.d.2719 I know...
@c.d.macaulay66
@c.d.macaulay66 Месяц назад
Million Dollar Baby was an excellent movie, but so disturbing I never want to see it again. Sam Rockwell's character in 3 Billlboards undergoes the biggest transformation. He more than holds his own against the powerhouse that is Frances McDormand. Jack's line you show in Terms of Endearment is hilarious. One of the (many) highlights of the movie. Their best moment together is when they're sharing pillow talk afterwards in bed. He's describing the best moment of his life (his character was an astronaut) which was the feeling of weightlessness. Her reply is, "This is mine." It's a beautiful and touching moment. Both Oscars were thoroughly deserved. I cannot imagine Burt Reynolds in that role. Nicholson can act rings around him. Forgot about Cabaret's dynamic duo. Can't see anyone else but Liza in that part. It's the best thing she ever did onscreen. And Grey also won a Tony as the emcee. But, even though they didn't have a scene together, you forgot Ben Johnson and the great Chloris Leachman in The Last Picture Show.
@oscarman42
@oscarman42 Месяц назад
Love Johnson and Leachman - but they were both Supporting winners ;-)
@c.d.macaulay66
@c.d.macaulay66 Месяц назад
@@oscarman42 Ah. Forgot your premise. Love your pieces. They bring back (mostly) fond memories and are thought provoking.
@oscarman42
@oscarman42 Месяц назад
@@c.d.macaulay66 Thank you! And I agree about the memories - maybe not fondly, but at least fun! (I completely understand about MDM - I never watched it again either.)
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