Playing thrakkus after you have your 3 roaming thrones gives you 5 thrakkus that each trigger 4 times. So next turn your dragons are having the power multiplied by 2^20. Which multiplies your dragons power by 1,048,576. So next turn each thrakkus is swinging for over 3,000,000, trample damage.
Gold fishing with three roaming thrones down, made five copies of thrakus the butcher, all of them doubling each others power three times, for a total of 2^15 times damage, meaning times 32,000 each
The 3 Roaming Thrones make each Thrakus trigger 3 additional time for a total of 4 triggers. Therefore, the damage should actually be 2^20 times, for a total of 1,048,576 times damage each
You are correct in regards to Roaming Throne with them getting ward 6 but the multiplier only works for multiple copies of the "Specific Creature" so you would need multiple copies of Miirym for it to get ward 8.
It is ward 8 because ward is a trigger. So Miirym is getting an additional trigger from each of the thrones making it ward 8. Or actually ward 2 ward 2 ward 2 ward ward2 accurately.
Got a wilder one imo. Court of Vantross, with Ojer Taq, and Roaming Throne, I know there are a few others that do what Ojer Taq does, and they can be added or used in place
Mind explaining token multipliers with Roaming throne?? Example: Over Taq Mondrak Anointed Procession And then adding on Roaming throne? What does creating 1 token look like in that scenario?
What if i have conjurer closet and sakashima copying miirym for 7 times.. Using closet flicker effect.. And i summon throne.. And after of the broken combo all resolve i summon a small Dragon.. What could it be
What's the exact total damage on miirym+roamin throne(3 after miirym) + scourge of valkas(Should be 5 after the throne). No additional dragons on board. Landed it a few times but couldn't get the math right, we just agreed it's game if it goes through.
When the first Scourge enters, to maximize damage, you'll want to stack it's own trigger *before* miirym's triggers. This way they wont calculate the X until all dragons are on the field. The stack will look like this: Scourge trigger x4 Miirym trigger x4 When the first Miirym trigger resolves, a new Scourge enters, and both it and the first Scourge see it entering, triggering 4 times each: Scourge trigger x4 Miirym trigger x3 Scourge trigger x8 Those triggers resolve with a total of 6 dragons on the battlefield, dealing 8*6=48 damage. When the next Miirym trigger resolve, you'll have 3 Scourges triggering their abilities: Scourge trigger x4 Miirym trigger x2 Scourge trigger x12 These triggers each deal 7 damage, since there is another dragon now. 12*7=84. The next Miirym trigger causes now 16 Scourge triggers (since there are now 4 Scourges), each dealing 8. 16*8=128. With the final Miirym trigger, you now have 5 scourges each triggering 4 times for 9 damage each. 20*9=180 Then the first four Scourge triggers resolve, also dealing 9 damage each. 4*9=36. That amounts to a total of 476 damage. According to Excel. I hope it makes sense.
Here's my decklist, but haven't added in the roaming throne yet (as I don't have one yet) and don't have a red dragon in their yet! www.moxfield.com/decks/MP4cpCIAh0WFpZqd6ZO8WQ
I don't think miirym can copy the roaming throne like that, because it chooses a type on etb rather than "as it enters". This would result in you choosing dragon after missing the timing for miirym's trigger.
To explain, the reason it can do this is you can stack the effects in a way so that the roaming throne declares a type as it enters, then every other effect resolves, thus making roaming throne the type you want before everything else can resolve. This is possible due to magics rules stating that you have priority in declaring the order of ur triggered abilities on the stack first.
@@TheFewLimited but miirym checks the roaming throne as a non-dragon before deciding wether to trigger or not, as time the type changing ability is put on the stack. This means miirym's ability won't trigger, as all etb triggers happen at once and the roaming throne would have to have already resolved its ability to be copied
@@HawkofJudgment I understand ur point but am not sure about that, I’m having a hard time finding an answer to this specific interaction, but I would argue that due to the phrasing declaring type as it enters, it is also entering with that type, due to the actions occurring during the same game state check. That would trigger Miirym as well. I’m not a judge tho, but now I really wanna know the official answer.
Court of Vantress lets you create a token that is a copy of target artifact - choose Roaming Throne, then Ojer Taq gives 3 more roaming thrones. Do this every single turn until monarch is taken from you.
Wouldn’t the roaming thrones all see each other’s triggered ability to make something proc an additional time because they’re all sharing a creature type of dragon with each other causing a game ending infinite loop for a draw?
Ward is a triggered ability, technically used to have a full sentence of "When an opponent targets... etc." So, because its triggered the Throne makes it Trigger again.
@@TaunaMTG so if more and more creatures have Ward the it only gets harder and harder to single target remove said creature because it have to go through multiple instances of wards?
@@yoheyyo462 only if Roaming Throne is there. Roaming Throne adds more instances of ward by making it proc additional times on whatever keyword you chose
No you have 3 roaming thrones and 5 Thrakkus, so if you attack with all 5 Thrakkuses, you double the power 4*5=20 times, so all dragons power gets multiplied by 2^20.
Yes, yes it does. You choose the type in enters as so the ability triggers before it enters thus the boi makes a token copy and then again... and again and again etc.
@@timmyda1st191 No that's not how it works. The roaming throne replacement effect only applies at the time miirym triggers, so miirym only gets additional triggers for the copies of roaming throne that are already on the battlefield when it triggers.
