The quality of your videos is super. You owe no one an apology for anything you have put together here. Thanks for your no BS approach the guns and gear education!
Been using super full turkey choke for any bird and buckshot and I can attest if I had to shoot slugs I'd be through a full choke but full choke is awesome but I prefer a super full turkey choke for everything else
Nice demonstration. The disclaimer at the end was extremely impressive. Each shotgun barrel will act differently. There is no such thing as a good excuse to not pattern your shotgun barrel and choke. If you have a fixed choke each brand and speed of shell can make a huge difference. Well done Alan.
More than anything I appreciate you speaking to gun safety in a practical, matter of fact way. All too often those of us that spend the most time handling firearms become the most careless and complacent, and are the inevitable victim of an avoidable accident. Keep up the good work! Love the tests.
Brand new to chokes with shotguns, and you have taught me more in almost seven minutes than the last week I've spent combing old forums for pointers. Thanks my dude 👍
I've started loading a 14 pellet #1 buck stacked by twos. At 40 yards with an x-full choke I consistently get 11 pellets I can cover with my hand with 3 flyers. Can't seem to stop the flyers. But I'm happy with it out of an old Mossberg 500.
Great video. Well done 👏 As you stated here the biggest take away to test your own shot gun. They’re all different. This does make me wonder though about 9 pellet 00buck. Its too bad the majority of manufacturers sell 9 pellet. I only know of hornady selling 8 pellet loads but those are rather expensive and use a versatile wad, similar to federals flite control designed for cylinder bore. I’d much rather sacrifice having one less pellet which is usually a flyer liability anyway and purchase inexpensive 8 pellet and use a full choke.
Walmart cheap federal 15 round pack Stoeger m3000 Kicks Buck Kicker choke consentient 12 to 14 inch group at 80 yards. That's a dead deer hog or what ever out to a 100 yards. You get even tighter groups with buffered buck shot.
I have two Browning Belgium auto 5 3" Magnums w/30" full choke barrels At 30 yards I can keep 10 pellets of triple ought within about 12" which I consider not to bad. Years ago me and my brother in law tried four different shotguns two of them having changeable choke tubes all 12 Guage with a variety of buckshot brands from #1 to triple ought. The standard full chokes did the best. We did not have any supper full or turkey chokes to try. I heard that same thing about full chokes mashing up buckshot and causing bad patterns but I have not seen this in my personal shooting.
This is one of the most important things to owning a shotgun, and more important if you load yourself. Patterns can be gotten when learning to quick mount and fire, in which case gun fitment becomes an issue to look at, ie: bending stocks, trigger pull etc. Really good video with great quality advice and research. You increased the hitting power 10 fold not to mention the accuracy. Nothing like knowing how you're stickin it down range.
It seems to be the case in a lot of videos I see. The tighter the choke the better the accuaracy with most all loads. Not sure where the whole idea from more open chokes for buck the better came from.
Thanks. Good video. What kind of ammo? I'm asking because sometimes if you're using FCW you want the imp cyl because the tighter ones will rip the shot cup off your shot (defeating the purpose).
Huntingwise, what do you use buckshot for in AK? In VA we use it for deer, coyote, bobcat and with #4 buck and smaller sometimes turkey. Alot of double barrels shooters used to keep a #4 buck in one barrel and something larger in the other barrel. I guess that you could use it on smaller black bear but we generally use slugs, rifles and muzzleloaders where I am for bear.
No not 2, there is actually 3 rules of thought, Federal Flite Control 00 buck and everything else. Shoot Flite control 00 buck through an open/no choke. There is nothing else like it! No need to mess with chokes.
Its a good video, but I personally (being very inexperienced, so dont mind my mussings) first of all have some concerns about the repeatability, I would think 1 shot is not really enough for the consistent result, maybe 5 for each choke? Second - I`ve seen a similar video and Mod and IC were getting the best results, so my assumption would be - the results are very specific to combo of shotgun+ammo, and third point - a lot of weapon experts say dont use anything tighter than IC for the double ought (not my words obviously, bit really a lot of people say that) Just my 2 cents, but generally I appreciate the video, always interesting to see something new
I have been making the full choke argument for 50+ years with my friends. I however use 3" #1 buck, I find that while I naturally do get a wider pattern with the #1 I will gets more hits in the circle. I have been using #1 ever since I went out of state hunting and forgot to bring my ammo. The local walmart did not have OO so I took the #1. Well the next day I dropped the biggest buck of my life in his tracks with one shot at 20+ yds. Since then I have dropped every deer I pulled the trigger on with 1 shot with 1 exception. He ran about 50 yds. before he stopped and I did not want to take a chance of him running again as I was on a small hobby farm in a populated area and doubled tapped him, end of story. The rest: one shot one kill out to and past 50 yds. I still have that open box of 00 sitting in my gun case that I have not used since I forgot it there 30 years ago. #1 BUCKSHOT RULES IT IS BY FAR THE MOST DEADLY AMMO YOU CAN USE TO 50 YDS. AND A BIT BEYOND.
Wind noise wasn't bad at all. Nor the writing. Good vidio. I had winning bid on a Mossberg 835, got a skeet tube and for social work an extended full choke to run, since rifled slugs can't be used in an 835. The turkey choke wasn't recommended for buck either. Going to test the full and skeet with 00 plain and buffered low recoil.
The very tight patterned Turkey choke is used for shooting "only the head & neck" off of wild Turkeys. As far as I know the Turkey choke is the tightest choke on the market, it is one step tighter than Extra Full choke. But I do 'not' know if it will work with 00 or 000 Buckshot.??
Nice show,I have an 870 Remington tactical in 12 ga and it's lethal with the same shells that you use in the show, out to 25 yds it's very consistent in it's patterns,#4 buck at that distance will completely pepper a target like yours
@@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 check out Rob Roberts. He is supposedly the best for polishing and lengthening the forcing cone and it's only about $80 to have him do it. The price might be different but I think it's right around there
It doesn't effect the quality of the video but your very first shot there actually was 9 shots on paper. In the middle of the outline, you just forgot to put the line through it. Great video thanks.
I thought you couldn't shoot a buck in full choke lol my frist shot gun that takes chokes I have some 12 pellet buck I have been afraid to shoot because I didn't know if it would go bad lol
So for a modern shotgun such as a cz1012 I’m assuming it’s safe to shoot buckshot with any choke ? I just heard some people saying how full choke could damage your gun.
As a general rule yes, it will not hurt the gun. Probably not a good idea with really old guns, especially with Damascus barrels. Also follow any instructions on the ammo box.
@@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 WOULD LIKE TO UPDATE THIS, JUST CALLED CZ THEY SAID ONLY USE CYL OR IMPROVED CYL FOR BUCKSHOT, ONLY WAY THEY RECOMMEND TO EVEN USE A FULL IS IF USING LEAD AND NOT STEEL
For my Mossberg 500 with 28 inch barrel I use a modified choke when hunting with buckshot. It has never failed to drop a deer in it's tracks. I'm buying semi auto 12 gauge next week I'll have to do some tests to see what choke to use.
No, a fixed choke can be of any level of constriction. It means that the choke is machined into the barrel and is not removable or adjustable. For example a gun could be a fixed full, fixed modified etc. Most older shotguns are made this way, newer hunting and competition shotguns generally have removable choke tubes that can be swapped like my CZ. Hope that helps.
My Mossberg 835 Ulti Magnum has a warning to not use Slugs. I haven’t tried buckshot yet. It’s actually comes with an extra full Turkey choke. I could buy an ordinary full choke for buckshot if I want to have a home defense load. Police train with 15 yard Q Targets with cylinder bore 12 gauge 870 Pump Shotguns. We used Federal Tactical 00 Buck. Most pellets were within the Q target at 15 yards. Shooting at 25 yards was not recommended as the pellets would spread missing the intended target.
Great video well done. 1) I would like to know the difference between straight lead, copper plated, and nickel plated Buckshot.? (I have all three but I do not know.) 2) 'Slugs' with an Improved Cylinder or Cylinder choke, 'not' Modified). You could maybe also do a video with accuracy of a 'Slug' out to 100 yards. 3) What is the make & model of your shotgun.? Thank you.!
1)/2). Thanks for the suggestions, buckshot and slug variety is pretty bad up here at the moment, maybe in the future. I know buffalo outdoors did an interesting video on slug accuracy with different chokes. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-P1OkpM97rcQ.html 3) The shotgun I am using in this video is a CZ 1012 All Terrain, I did a review on it if you are interested. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-RaBTL0P0f80.html
I went over the intro several times and did not hear you say the barrel length. Did I miss it or something? Also, at timestamp 3:20, did I just see you turn the barrel? Is your barrel on that loose?
Every gun will shoot different with different chokes and ammunition. Always pattern your gun with ammunition you use and try different chokes until you get the pattern you want. Buckshot with buffer would improve pattern better then with no buffer. It reduces deformation of the shot.
