Great class, I will be trying this on the rear. Currently have three plugs on rear with a Shinko 525 after 12 hours! I typically run 6-7 psi in the rear. I know, get the goldentyre. But the Shinko works so well in the Oregon rainforests. can't wait to see how worn out my red plastic tube protector is.
This is the hack I've been meaning to incorporate for years. In the few decades I've been on and off 2 wheels I've never 1: ran a gummy. 2. Used moose's. 3. Used tubliss. I'll definitely be trying all three and cannot wait to feel the difference messing with psi!
I can't seem to get away from a trials tire and tubliss after trying many gummies. The TT just has the best overall grip. But I don't race, just ride h.e. for weekend fun.
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Do you cut the mousse exactly in half? If the mousse is for example soft (not super soft), would you recommend to leave a bit less than half mousse in the tyre, so the mousse wouldn t prevent you from going really low with pressure (like 0.2 bar)? Is it better to cut the mousse in semicircular shape (so the tubliss sits in) or just in straight line? Tnx
Great low pressure/ bead lock performance hack! The front is always a balance, chasing grip vs feedback feel, either on or off road...I'm never satisfied. That is some killer crushed rock to work on!! I'd wimp and throw a plywood work pad down. Lol
Thanks for this video. Answers a few mousse-related questions I had, and I like this best-of-both-worlds approach you have going on here, might just be enough to get me to make the switch I’ve been contemplating for a while.
After years of trying many options I have recently settled on bibs front and rear (lighter and cheaper than nitro) with mx 33s. I know they are not be the best in the wet but boy do they bite and still hold up decent in the wet. I'm sure I will change it up again. I get bored easily.
The drilled mousse still doesn’t offer as much traction and it wears out really quickly. You also need to run two rim locks on the drilled out mousse when they get really worn out too other wise the tire spin on the wheel. It’s a more expensive alternative that doesn’t perform as well in my opinion. Still great though, I did it for years.
I ran drilled soft mousses for quite a while. IMO, traction is only slightly less than Tubliss at 1-2psi (my drilled mousse setup felt like 4psi). I got 100hrs easily out of the mousse. I switched to Tubliss for the versatility however - mousses are very sensitive to sizing, especially when drilled.
@@jonathoncatterson8901 those have been on my list all year! Once these Dunlop mx52s are done I can't wait to try a gummy and a tubliss set up. Do you think moose's are still okay for the occasional practice track rip? I still like to motocross once in awhile and didn't know if I still needed HD tubes or a tubliss.
I'm running a Michelin rear, but still have Pirelli air in the tube. Can this cause issues? I'm asking cos I've noticed I'm sh** and this might be why. TIA.
Meg , What was break in time ( hrs.) of the Nitro Moose ? And what kind of life span ( hrs.) can you generally get after it has been altered for this application ? With or Without maintenance to Nitro Moose
So I usually cut up an old worn out mousse to start with. I don't cut a brand new one because that would be a shame haha. As for the lifespan of the old, cut-up mousse, it lasts a long long time. Like years. Cutting a mousse absolutely does reduce it's lifespan greatly but that's not going to matter. You don't need to worry about wear on the mousse because it's only purpose is to proved a little support in the case of an unwanted flat (I saw unwanted because I often choose to run 0 psi in this setup).
Am I correct in assuming that you are using your friends worn out mousse tubes? If so I think you have the perfect combo. I run mousse because I don't want to carry tubes as a back up but I sacrifice traction when I have a new mousse. I'm at the point where I have piles of old mousse pieces and vary tire size to suit whatever mousse I want to use. It took buying a few hundred dollars worth of mousse to get to where I am now. Never throw away mousse! they are always useful.
Yep, so I run a plain mousse in the rear in my spare bike. So when those get worn out, I cut them and use them for my Tubliss/mousse combo on my main bike. Then I get a new rear mousse and deal with the shitty break-in/no traction period on the spare bike and then the cycle continues. I do, however, go out of my way to buy the Nitromousse Pushie because it’s actually really soft to begin with (6-8 psi feel). Still stiffer than I’d like but better than a brand new hard Michelin mousse or some other brands.
Forget about the mousse on the back. The main system on the rear is the tubeless system the half mousse is there for insurance. If she gets a puncture anything on the tire to loose air the half mousse it's going to come in play helping the tire a little, better than 0 psi. Hopefully I explained it well. English not my language lol
So cutting mousse in rear allows for softer tire with little to no air. Mousse just to prevent pinch flats. Also allows greater wall flex on tire when cut... Anything I am missing?
No, the mousse is not there to prevent pinch flats. You cannot get a pinch flat when using the TUbliss system because of the red cover protecting the inner tube. The only way to get a “flat” with the TUbliss system is if you get a crack of hole in the carcass of the tire that allows the air in that outer chamber to escape. The mousse is simply there to provide some support in that scenario. The reason it is cut in half is because that makes it half the size which means it won’t even affect the feel of the tire and you can run 0-3 psi for example and get incredible traction in the slippery terrain.
Ran this setup last year, super simple, no maintenance, mousse will last longer (no dirt getting in, lube drying out, less stress to wear it out). Can finally run Ibex low pressure again since they get cut up so easily with tubliss only. Running an undersized mousse is the way to go, and makes tire changes so easy.
You mention cutting the rear mousse in half. I assume this is so you can get it together, fitment. Or did you cut it for a larger air volume for tuning? You did not say you did this for the front??? Is the front mousse full size, uncut? Also does cutting the mousse decrease the life of the mousse? It no longer the hard outer surface but has exposed the air bubble impregnated core, soft innards... So assuming the life span of a used mousse that has been cut in half is rather short??? Have been waiting to ask since your "Got a new bike" video.
I cut the mousse in half so that is it small and doesn’t affect the “feel”. It is simply there as a backup for a scenario where my TUBliss goes flat and I don’t want it to be flat. I want to be able to run very low air pressure in the rear for the best possible traction. Running a full sized mousse in there would defeat the purpose of having the TUbliss. Cutting the mousse in half does reduce the lifespan greatly but again, it’s just there as a backup. It doesn’t need to stay fresh. It doesn’t really matter if it gets worn out because it’s just there as a buffer to add a tiny bit of support in the case of a flat.
@@megs_braap late to the party here but I am going to assume that unless running very low air pressure the foam insert is just there, not going through any motion or compression cycling toor at least low. Given that it should last a long time.
I'm a big guy, I use a HD tube in front and back with a size up in tires, Tusk recon hybrid 8-10lbs in rear, and shinko fat tyre 13-15 in front, I don't feel rocks and roots hit rims any more and my weight helps with traction, never had pinch flats I will say Meg has helped me with my clutch use, I have seen myself use the clutch in gnarly rocky up hill climbs in a manner that I normally wouldn't have, I'm able to keep the front of bike light to go over the rocks and roots without worry of flipping bike over backwards because of too much power Using a clutch is properly makes the harder stuff easier A rekluse makes people lazy, just my opinion
