I was half expecting this to be humans from a distant colony, returning to a ruined and forgotten Earth, re-discovering their true origins... but this is pretty good too!
@@kiritotheabridgedgod4178 well that depends if someone had a intelligence agency that was capable then you'd have had data upon who will betray on exchange for what, maybe the dictator is a nut job but the second in command would be glad to not fear execution or nuclear war.
@@akmon3490 if it's any consultation, we've already figured out how to capture carbon from the atmosphere and turn it into useful industrial products, the only thing stopping it from being used is its economic viability and governments being as useless as always
@@akmon3490 All it takes is one person to press that trigger, then bye bye humanity, and in the immortal words of Monty Python "There's fools and idiots sitting on the triggers"
Stasis Pods would be too energy costly, and DNA encoded in binary is a gamble, especially given how much data storage you'd need to catalogue enough genetic templates to kick start a species without bottlenecking it, not to mention the issues data corruption could cause. Cryogenically preserved embryos was always going to be the most cost, energy and space efficient way to do it.
@@kiritotheabridgedgod4178 Not like frozen embryo's are any better. Without a working womb replacement the embryo is useless. Utterly useless. You see the actual development of a human embryo is not actually controlled by the genetics, The end result is, assuming nothing goes wrong, but the process is not. It is controlled by the hormonal and chemical balance in the womb at each stage of development. It is, in short, a form of what is known as Phenotypic Plasticity. What that means, is without the knowledge of human reproduction, and especially the specific knowledge of the chemical and hormonal balances in the womb at each stage of foetal development (which we do not even fully know yet), there is precisely nothing that they can do with those embryo's. Absolutely, nothing..... Without the presence of an already developed artificial womb, or the data to allow one to be constructed, the aliens could not bring humanity back even if they wanted to.
For me neither point was really unexpected ( the explorers are the human not the extinct, and the surviving embrios) but the way this was written is very good so it was still interesting and impactful. Very well written and narrated.
If I had to nitpick, it wasn’t too clear why they were surprised that the terminals were in their language when they could understand the speaker. The specifically seemed surprised that they’d go thru the effort to translate, but later in the story they said not only that they got a message from the Humans, but that they replied. If they knew that the aliens got the message why were they shocked?
@@Djm95454 idk but maybe translating is a little easier than to build an entire computer with the same specs as humans do. Thats more than language. You need them to work similar to human machines. But you are right it was a little wierd
They've *potentially* passed *A* great filter, that depends on whether or not the exploration team can transport enough embryos back with them. If they can't transport enough embryos for that species to not get genetically bottlenecked, then the xenos haven't passed, as by the time they get back, the remaining embryos would be unviable.
@@kiritotheabridgedgod4178 I mean they can always come back for a second transport. and if humans have the tech which they do (mentioned a 50+year slumber through space) they can just hybernate the first batch untill the second arrives or however many is needed.
@@abelboronkai448 you seem to be fundamentally missing the point that the embryos are no longer hermetically sealed, on an irradiated planet. By the time they get another ship there, even if they have instantaneous communication tech, which they don't given that they're clearly travelling at sublight speeds, any embryo left behind will be too irradiated to be viable.
@@kiritotheabridgedgod4178 pretty sure the dieing civilisationwas not made of morons. the capsules them self could have protection against radiation any other danger. And the humans are ok with only a space suit which has either limited protection meaning radiation levels decreesed over time (which would happen) or they have insane tech which than they can use for the emprios protection. Remember the embrio room opened on its own. It was programed that way. So why would the aliens do that if that meant possibly the end of this last ditch effort?
@@kiritotheabridgedgod4178 bold of you to assume instant communication wont be a thing,rescently scientists used google supercomputer to do just that altho not for information but a particle,it will take hundreds or maybe even thousands of years before instant communication no matter where you are in space/time becomes a reality,tho it will happen
We've all heard, seen or read dozens of stories like this one before, I'm sure. But the writing here...the *emotion conveyed in the words*...! It's as they say. It's not in having an original concept, as nothing truly is. It's all about the presentation.
Liked the story, but sadly, there will not be a return of the fallen civilization. The embryos that survive will grow to adopt the civilization of the humans that came.
Is that such a bad thing though? If there culture was so toxic and self destructive then maybe it didn't need to exist at all. Besides that's what the computers are for. Some information and cultures.
It is: In game there's an event where you find the sterile husk of a species' homeworld In a last ditch effort, this species uploaded their consiousnesses, with the hopes that someone else (like the player) would have the technology to download them back into new bodies
Good Science fiction comments on the writers society. On the hopes and fears of the paths we choose to travel. Read early Science fiction and you will find the racist elitism so prevalent AT THAT TIME. That was how those writers perceived their world. Jump forward to the 40s and 50s and see the results WWII left on the psyche of the writers,. In the 1970s writers looked at beliefs and religions, and for the first time in my life, I read about my own times set in the future. The 1980s and 90s brought Mad Max type worlds to us, the remnants of humanity struggling to remain human. The 2000s saw tales of hope and technology, of exploration and colonization. Now we have warnings, prayers almost for the future of mankind, that we turn from our greedy self-destructive ways. And war. Always there are wars.