Best Lateral Raise Height 

This dude is great.a meat head with a beautiful brain and heart. Smart buff and empathatic.

The lateral raise has to be the most subjective exercise there is. You just gotta figure out what form you connect with the best.

I feel like the last version, like a lu raise makes my banged up shoulders feel BETTER. The weight is 5kg plate per hand and reps of 15-20

Dr Mike's definition of almost parallel, parallel and above parallel are practically the same😂

Ever since your shoulder video you did with Jeff Nippard I took your favorite side delt exercise (super ROM lateral raises) and Jeff's favorite (cross body cable "Y" raise) and I am seeing great results with my shoulders! By far my favorite muscle I'm developing as a new lifter.

Sick pump, Mike

I honestly prefer the super rom lateral raises, aka Lu raises. People at the gym look at me funny when I do them, though.

Dr Mike is really into it

I went further. I started flapping like a bird 🦅 and flew around the gym.

Awesome tips

After parallel it mainly becomes rhomboids and lower traps. Lu raises. Very good for shoulder health but I'd prefer parallel ROM for main focus on lateral delts.

Bro… I had to come back and find this short to say that the super rom is absolutely nutty with the pump. 👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼

Lu laterals make my shoulders feel AMAZING made all my shoulder pain go away !!!

"There is no right way" can be applied to just about every aspect of body building and strength training. It's all about what works for you as an individual. There are many ways to grow muscle and get stronger. I get so annoyed when fitness influencers tell people that there is only one way to do a lift or to eat. There is no one frequency, no one routine, no one diet. There is just trial and error.

If you have enough understanding of the movement this is brilliant. As a beginner parallel it please

The super ROM is magic

Thanks Dr Mike, I've broken both collarbones multiple times from cycling so it can be painful at times.

Imperceptible difference between his demo of almost to parallel and just above parallel. His almost to parallel is just above parallel 😂. But it’s Dr Mike so he gets a leave pass just cos he’s so frikken adorable

Thanks Doctor Mike, you're amazing and, if you don't mind me saying, my kind of Mangod hun 💖

I'm a just-short-of-parallel guy. Also can't do super deep dips, but I get the stretch from what I can do.

LU raise is the meta!

Can you next time show a side view too please? Here I'm wondering if people do bring the dbells a bit forward during the rotation for the full motion?

been doing super ROM for a couple months now and I can no longer fit through the doorways of my house. seriously blew up my side delts. thanks Dr Mike!

But above parallel people must understand that if the shoulder isn't exteriorly rotated the movement comes from elevation and upward rotation of the scapula....I always tell people "thumbs towards the sky"

Bro I dont even fully get to parallel after 5 reps and it still feels great

Thought I was the only cursed one that has shoulder issues... cheers

The super long ROM is actually a different exercise since you have to rotate your umerus thus changing the focus to the anterior portion of the deltoid. Not necessarily bad, just not the same as the point of the lateral raise

I’ve heard from bodybuilders or trainers where they speak about elbows being higher than the wrist & or twisting in the wrist as almost a pouring movement for side lateral raises. Any video content you’ve done about this “myth?” Love the videos and content as always!

I thought there was something wrong with me. Glad to know I'm not the only one with sensitive shoulders

I was born without shoulder joints, what would you recommend?

Lateral head of deltoid helps in shoulder abduction from 15 to 90 degrees only. Above that it is by traps and serratus anterior So anything above parallel to ground, if provides extra pump is mostly due to time under tension and not the muscle working through that extra ROM by itself

The shoulder joint benefits when you turn your thumbs up, the opposite of pouring the pitcher.

Super ROM lights my traps up

I really think, especially given the research doing partials on this exercise specifically using a way heavier load and working in a longer muscle length might be good. Also cheat laterals making it harder at the bottom and similarly as difficult at the top is good. Time to finally recommend cheat variants mike, the pro bodybuilders intuited something there imo it's not just ego bs. Or even if it started with ego crap, it just so happens to be worthful.

I like to go Lu Raise Style. Since I tried my shoulders made a massive change in strength, ROM and of course, size.

Yes I don't have to feel like a dufus when doing these.

Dr Mike 🤘

I fucking immobilized myself with neck pain for 48 hours recently doing db lateral raises. I did slightly more volume (like 1 set more) than usual and felt some discomfort. Then doing some db curls the next day, after 2 sets my neck hurt incredibly bad until I was left with my neck stuck nearly horizontal with incredible pain otherwise. Moral of the story, dont tense your neck like crazy when lateral raising and dont swing around. I don’t think I was using sloppy form but the injury says otherwise

Super ROM is phenomenal. That's the only lat raise i do now.

My shoulder joints making contact with basically every surrounding bone in the area whenever I move it in any way at all:

Lateral raises are actually elbows movement

I like watching Mike's videos to remind me how puny I am. Thanks, Mike.

Options are like assholes… I like them

Literally had no idea I was even allowed to raise it over my shoulder

Cant beat the last one for insane pump its a liller but feels amazing

I like the super ROM one only cuz my shoulders can take the movement. It doesn't need to be heavy AF either. It's helped my shoulders look bigger and keep the ROM.

Mike your the best. My app question is how do I enter split squats on the app for right and left leg??

I’ve been doing super rom laterals and my god I love them.. my shoulders have never felt better

Danny de vito got a sick pump

If you get elbow pain turn your wrists to remove the stress from your forearms

#lu raises?

Fantastic info. I had one question on form though, Palms down vs palms forward. Is there a significant difference? I find with palms forward I can get the full range easier but I don't want to ruin anything.

Is it just me, or was the doc going beyond parallel after the first example.

i have AC damage in my right shoulder, weirdly the full rom actually gives me the least pain, with stopping at 90 degrees giving the most.

I just started getting shoulder pain going all out on these. Any advice for the healing process? Ive taken 5 days off and i did a test run and lightly threw a ball and still in a lot of pain.

I used to do a a technique where I’d throw them up do a micro catch at the top of the rep I found it helped get a good activation of the portion of my shoulder that didn’t feel like it would activate from slow reps, it sounds stupid but if u get what I mean u should give it a try. I did it usually at the end of my workouts just to get everything toasted I’d explode up and do a catch sometimes I’d do it with the intention of holding it there either way that’s my best way to get that area pumped up and fried I did this shit sitting down by the way, I always disliked standing raises

I've read several papers discussing how shoulder raises (other than front raises) have minimal shoulder activation and hypertrophy mainly due to them being EXTREMELY difficult to do without engaging traps or even rhomboids on the con/eccentric. Has this changed? I can't remember the publication year of them off the top of my head.

Have plenty of people tell me I'm not working shoulders right since I'm the "all the way up" guy. Everytime I get told to only go parallel or just below. For me all the way up works 3x better. I feel the mid head work over time and my pump is great. So I just respond with "yeah, yeah, I appreciate it man" then go back to all the way up 😂. It's what works for me and my shoulders look great.

I do below parallels on the cable since one of my shoulders can´t take parallel without some weird pain after a few days. Not optimal, but better than not doing them.

I use Charles Glass safe Lat raises.

He made the first 3 identical😅

Good video one time I was doing this exercise I don't know what happened I pulled my groin I dropped the weight it head hurt so bad

Mike O’Hearn has been doing the full ROM ones for the past 20 years & had been ridiculed by «science» guys for doing shoulder impingement inducing exercises. Time to put respect on Mike O’tren’s name & listen to his actual knowledge outside the memes

My upper traps are everytime sore with lateral raises. idk why 😢

If following the consequences of the recent results from Milo Wolfs research on lenghtened partial, wouldn’t heavy partials in the lenghtened position be better? Like the way John Meadows recommend you do them?

The rom he showed was basically the same in every case. Kinda starting to believe the whole phd thing is a lie 😳

Hearing there are options is sometimes what people need to hear, everything is so min/max these days, this or that, black and white when there are actually 50 shades of grey....

With lateral raises and bicep curls why isn't the principle of stretch under load ever considered. It is essential for every other muscle group when picking what variation you choose, why not for these muscle groups aswell?

SFR for me with the super ROM is very bad. I try that one from time to time as an intensity technique (mechanical dropset) but I do parallel on a regular basis

Aren't your shoulders already fully contracted at about parallel? So what would be the benefit besides all little more mobility ? And maybe better pump?

Lu raises give me a crazy pump

Is the over parallel raise healthy for my shoulders though? I wanna add it to my shoulder routine but I'm not sure if its actually gonna do more god than bad for my shoulders you see😅

And than my PT asks me if I’m trying to take of by going full ROM. Smh

is it bad i’ve been doing all the way up like the last one every time i lateral raise? just feels like im doing half reps if i only go to parallel

Anyone here hang from a pull up bar and then do banded serratus wall slides before doing shoulder work? Doing that, I can do lu raises and go heavy on cable lateral raises.

I can do super rom laterals, but any barbell bench variation has unconsensual intercourse with my shoulders

To the point and no 🐂💩

Where can you get that shirt

What about partial rep with heavy load?

The best option is the one that doesn't injure you. How do you know if your "shoulder can take it"? You don't until you're already injured 😅

My shoulders can take it. A gym staff member told me it's a "horrible movement" and that I shouldn't do it because people like him with "developed lats" might use too much weight and hurt their rotator cuff. I couldn't see his lats through the fat under his t shirt and I couldn't understand why he said that until later then he must think lateral raises work the lats 😔

Mike got baby arms.

Doesnt the lu raise help a bunch with lockput power, helps a bunch for people that use a jerk

Just showing what you can do on the sauce.

Broooooo you forgot the heavies partial bruh

Baaalllldddddddyyyy

Does anyone feel like lateral raises at parallel works too much traps?

I'm a sensitive shoulder guy.

I use Mike's advice to ignore this advice. The most important part of the exercise is the stretch. Any higher than almost parallel is only increasing fatigue by engaging the traps to lift the shoulder. Stay below parallel folks

how blud know I been doing these at home?

Sir I don't think you know what parallel means.

How in the world can people go all the way up without damaging the join even with light weights?

Not even an option I get to choose…My shoulders just yell at if I go a millimeter above parallel 😂

Back In my day we had Mike metzer, nowadays we have Dr Mike 🙏🏼💪🏼❤️

Saw some guy in the gym today with 40 lb dumbbells doing "lateral raises" with bent ass elbows and coming up to about his sternum... No control on the eccentric... I just let ego lifters move that weight and sigh on the inside

I think the full RoM raise has no benefit. No stretch-mediated hypertrophy up there and the side delts also loose leverage above parallel and front delt takes over

mfw Mike doesnt understand what "below parallel" actually means 😂

"Folks"

My traps take over if I try going over parallel. I tried lowering the weight and still the same issue.

A pump is not the same as actual targeting muscle groups. Above parallel your delts are not being loaded anymore and is just a waste of time and energy to get a useless and temporary "pump".