@@olofacosta3192I think she is, Logan genuinely does love them just in a very fucked up way, but I don’t think Caroline actually loves them. I dont think we ever really got proof of that.
@@littleoldmanboyAlso, look at Logan's funeral again. Notice how Caroline didn't even comfort Roman when he broke down because he couldn't finish his eulogy? That's her son, for God's sake! Even Connor who is his half brother comfort him.
@@littleoldmanboyLogan didn't love his kids. He was incapable of love. It's honestly scary the amount of people who are willing to read his abuse as love.
What’s funny about Caroline is she actually tends to show solidarity with other women frequently except for her own daughter and anyone married to Logan.
Shiv is Logan's favourite kid. He's softer to her than any of his other kids, and kinder to her than his own ex-wife. Caroline being the way she is definitely doesn't like that, hence her behaviour with Shiv. She loves her sons more, in her own way.
To me she only showed sympathy for Greg. There are scenes in which she clearly shows disdain towards her sons such as the one in which Ken wanted to talk about the dead kid
I think her character and casting are excellent as you can imagine her being the kind of woman that Logan would have been confounded by when he was younger. You can also imagine her holding her own in the bitter divorce they went through 😂
Definetly she probably helped him get into the society circles and made him.have a better social standing in the early days. 😂 I'd say she destroyed him but I like that they don't speak hateful about each other they know exactly what the others like.
I feel that Roman is her favorite, so they have the "best" relationship of all of the kids. The fact that he went to see her in S4 after everything, speaks volumes. I can't imagine Kendall or Shiv doing that.
@@lancelot4718 what I interpreted was that she’s saying “meh, you’re palatable, nothing special, not impressive. HIS response lets her that she made the correct assumption because he wasn’t bright enough to pick up the subtle insult she assaulted him with 😆
Harriet Walter’s been on EVERY hot show and movie of the last five years. Downton Abbey, Belgravia, The Crown, Rocketman, Killing Eve, Dr. Who, and Succession. She’s shone in every single role, each more different than the last. The woman’s a beast. She must have one hell of an agent, too. What a glorious actor.
She’s fantastic. The first time I saw her was in a BBC crime drama called Waking the Dead where she played a woman jailed for murdering her 10 year old son’s best friend. She played a really fragile, downtrodden seeming woman but also had a real strength to her and I didn’t know what to make of her character. I didn’t even realise she also played Lady Shackleton in Downton while watching it and then watching Succession thought I recognised her again. Phenomenal actress. She’s so distinctive but totally unique in every role.
Caroline is a fabulous character, and Harriet Walter plays her to perfection. I think any chance of a healed relationship with her kids was torched after the end of season 3, but I'd still love for her to return in any capacity.
@@maiaracarvalho6573Yeah, it's a shame how masses of people (in any fanbase) fundamentally can't suspend their disbelief and separate reality and fiction. Until those ppl are able to do so, they'll continue to miss out on the best parts of storytelling.
Caroline's reaction for not getting credited for giving birth to Kendall, Roman, and Shiv was so satisfying. She's funny but my god, even my mother isn't this terrible.
Yeah with her you could jokingly throw shit at each other and then go for a cup of tea, while Logan would just scream at you like a maniac and you need strong alcohol after that. @@curioushoodie
@nigapriva She's saying Tom --bumbling, not "to the manor born," a bit of a dope, but will mostly do what he's told because he so badly wants to be part of this world--seems like a perfectly reasonable husband for Shiv to settle for. Or at least that's how I took it lol
I want to see Caroline Collingwood and the Godmother from Fleabag sit down for a cup of tea. Small animals would retreat into their burrows and the birds would disappear from the sky.
While she’s a good enough actress Ehhh.. I strongly disagree she did Not suit the role.. half of her scene pulled me out of the immersion actually..she Not anyone’s prime choice for a brutus sorry Not sorry
Each child seems to express one of her personalities which she holds in utter contempt. She can see clearly around the bend when it comes to each of their motives and holds the carrot just out of reach. “Daddy didn’t give affection. And the boy was something that mommy wouldn’t wear.”
@@jayclearmen411 i don't think so ,she literally admit it and know they're both using eachother and she's an aristocrat all of this is nothing new to her lol
If Succession had a fifth season they might have explored Peter a bit more for comedic purposes - he is played by the great Pip Torrens who was unforgettable as Tommy Lascelles in The Crown.
My favourite quote - which is very English upper class with the unquestionable self belief that comes with it, is 'he knew your father and me when he was doing something even more boring' brilliantly captured.
Rupert Murdoch’s first wife was a posh English lady, for all his claims decades ago about the UK being full of types from that background who sought to stymie Rupert the by his bootstraps Aussie disrupter (inherited his Father’s newspaper business) with a contempt for all it represents, plan A seemed to consist of marrying into it.
wasnt she also a bit crazy, and may have even been committed (I think it was in the bio man who owns the news), which is why Prudence came to live with them. Just like Connor.
I've liked her since she played Harriet Vane in the Peter Wimsey mysteries. Traveled to Oxford because of Gaudy Night (as tens of thousands of fans do).
New watcher here, but after seeing Harriet Walter in the cast, I just picture her acting like Caroline from Succession, placing bets, asking everyone long will they give it until someone else dies. And also saving the bread nubbies
ℹ think Stewy and Kendall became friends in college. ℹ think Kendall mentioned it somewhere. Thus, it makes sense to not know him or recognize him. The kids left her relatively young.
I'm like that in general. I just find every little thing funny, and if something reminds me of something terrible, I'll just laugh about it. Like when she responds to Shiv, "Hmm, like a Nazi." Hahaha, I swear I say things like that, but I find it funny. It's not my intention to hurt somebody else's feelings. If anything, I'd like others to laugh about the absurdity of a situation. Obviously, I don't make jokes when I feel another person is not in a "humorous" mood. Maybe that's what makes her despicable. In fact, this is funny because it's edited, but if you watch the whole scene, you'll always feel their pain because her jokes are used as venomous weapons that leave her children bleeding for a week.