What alot of non Megadeth fans don't understand, is that his soloing is erratic and chaotic on purpose,thats his style. He's not messing up or sloppy,that's literally Thrash at its core.
That's what I love about him and Marty, they both have an edge and imperfection to their playing and it adds a lot to the character of the song. I also love how Dave just fuckin guns out his solos in the most aggressive way possible
I like his erratic playing. He's playing with feeling and it goes along with the music. He does slow down at appropriate moments. Others will just play robotic like.
The thing that people don't understand about Dave's playing is, he is pure thrash metal and people forget that. He brings the messiness combined with his solo's. That is what makes Dave unique above other guitarists. And the other element that makes Megadeth so amazing are the soloists like Poland, Marty, Broderick and so on that he brings to the band. Megadeth is IMO the best thrash metal band.
Man, Megadeth is my favorite metal band. The rhythm, lyrics, drums, bass and guitar work, have always been amazing. Always tight as fuck and precise. There're so fucking many metal bands I know of and, yet, Megadeth just has a "rustic" kind of feel to them, which, has always resonated with me.
Thats a great point, I sort of put them in separate tier groups...there's tier 1 for this which would obviously be guys like Paul Gilbert John Petruci even Buckethead to some extent, Joe Satrani Steve Vai etc guys who have near or perfect shred technique skill/clean with speed etc, then you have the next tier which would be guys like ya know maybe Al Dimeola, John Mclaughlin,Hendrix, Ray Vaughn, Van Halen etc, then the tier group beneath that would have your Dimebags and Dave Mustaines...make no mistake all are masters all have extraordinary skill its just little differences is all id describe both guys like Dimebag and Mustraine as " muddy shred" and thats not an insult its still absolutely amazing all time great stuff ya know. But yeah you put it perfectly and better then I did! well said.
@@danielhicks4826 Just some random thoughts to add, alll those top tier guys seem to sacrifice something to reach those heights of playing. They're less artistic, more mechanical. Mustaine sang, and wrote. All the guys in your second tier, IMO are much better overall musicians than the top tier shredders. There's not as much feel behind their work. That's not really a critique, because their primary focus is fast, intricate, precise shredding, and they do that amazingly well. Just pure shredders have always been like a different thing than traditional music to me, altogether, it doesn't do for me what typical music does. I almost never listen to it. Sometimes I'll watch Gilbert or Malmsteen just to to admire their technical ability, but yeah I think the imperfections/non-polish is just better, all around, in every way. Take that to an extreme, with a guy like John Frusciante, who isn't a very technically complicated player, especially modern era, but him playing the simple Californication solo live, has incredible amounts of feel in it, he's like the anti-shredder.
@@JunkBondTrader Yeah I know what ya mean, I mean guess can argue that gets in the realm of subjective personal preference ya know? but at same time I get what your saying for sure, I think Paul Gilbert has great artistic/musicianship to match well close to match his absurd obj4ective technical merit personally, but I can see why others wouldn't think that and that at those levels yeah it can be "robotic/mechanical" at the expense of musicianship for sure, I think that definitely would apply more to Joe Satraini then a Gilbert or a great example actually have you heard of Rusty Cooley? I th8ink he is a perfect example of what your describing hes literally like as fast as you can get at shredding and sweeping but even to me who loves that stuff it sounds totally mechanical for sure, I dont get that much of that from Buckethead to Paul Gilbert especially personally I think they can absolute be musical and "catchy" fore lack of a better word as well as obviously stupidly technical/mechanical ya know what I mean, but I do absolutely get what your saying though for sure its a fair point absolutely!. Or Frucante I get that as well, il never enjoy listening to his stuff more then Gilbert but thats just preference for me your point still remains valid I think.
So to be fair I guess I shoulda separated my little tier example thingie exclusively by objective technical merit ya know. I mean subjective individual preference aside because I think we can all agree that there is objective examples of someone simply being way way more technically superior then someone else as far as pure technical/speed etc goes like Gilbert etc are known for, but that aside yeah I got ya. My personal favorite guitar players ever top 3 would be Al Dimeola, then Paul Gilbert, and then Buckethead, but later is more of a just my preference thing I def think Al Dimeola of those 3 is by far the best example of equal parts technical mastery but who can also be creative and musical and etc like ya said or play with more "soul" so to speak etc, but yeah just preference is all, I love Mustaine to though man no doubt he is indeed a great example of what your talking about as well but who also has some great technique as well.
It's so groovy... and I like how it's not much singing and the lyrical content is so different. Feel like they were like aight let's just throw this in the album fuck it lol
@@brandonshifflett7808 Part of it is because Dave had just barely resigned himself to being the singer. He was originally trying to find a singer who sounded like Dio, lol. So on Megadeth's 1st two albums, especially Killing is my Business, but also evident in So Far, So Good, So What and Peace Sells, he keeps the vocals to a minimum and focuses more on the guitars, where he was more comfortable. A big reason why Rust in Peace was so successful was because, by then, Dave had grown into his voice, giving lyrics that were easier to sing along to.
Holy wars will always be my favorite song cause that was the first song from Megadeth I heard and my dad introduced me to them. Plus the song is really fuckin good.
Totally agree with this. First time i saw them live i was pretty close when holy wars was played and was in complete awe at how effortlessly he plays. An absolute guitar legend!
I love how Dave constantly challenged himself and always sought out Guitarists he thought were better in some way, than himself. So that he could round out his skills even more. I remember when Dave Navarro interviewed and jammed with him, he was in awe of Dave's complex axe skills and had trouble mimicking them.
@@freepressright Thank's and yeah, I totally get it. As does Dave himself and I loved his quip at the Grammy's which pretty much said it all. When they mistakenly played Metallica as they went to accept the award. "Well, Megadeth is harder to play than Metallica". hahaha. Little tongue in cheek dig at his former bandmates and how he likes his music, to be more complex/challenging. He ain't lying either, lol. I played back in the day and the first and easiest stuff to learn, was Metallica. Megadeth, not so much and only my "good" Guitarist friends, could play Megadeth stuff. Metallica is a lot of basic power chords that are not complex to learn. Dave's fingers use that entire fretboard, spread wide sometimes, like only the likes of Leona Boyd could match.
@@freepressright Ahhh, well that would definitely be a legit opinion and far more experienced than my teenage rock God delusions and very limited experience, lol. A lot of Guitarists speak highly of their playing and respect them, so it's no surprise a 30 year player would think similar. Navarro is no slouch and he was in awe of Dave's playing and was like "how did you do that, show me again?".
@@MrBilld75 oddly, I've had a couple of guys compare my phrasing and groove to Navarro of all people. So your comment was particularly resonant with me. I did dig the Chili peppers with him at the Helm. He was great in Jane's Addiction and has a fantastic musical knowledge.
His lead is underrated, it's has some blues and messiness in places that just add heaps of vibes, other player miss that, like all his hire hands have been, just clean and very technical, not to knock them but DM just has more nastiness going on..
Yeah, the "chaos" factor is definitely hard to quantify. It doesn't always work in live solos though. Especially in later years he's gotten too sloppy and his fingers just can't belt out the thick tone like they used to (for obvious reasons), it can get grating sometimes, especially if the sound quality of the video is bad.
For sure. I like Kirk but Kirk doesn’t even come close. He writes solos that “fit” the song which in turns mean playing the same thing since all Metallica songs are in E minor which then leads to uninspired and boring solos. Make sense why he loves wah so much. Gives them personality.
You really cant I'm actually glad like most guitar ranking lists realized this as well, I hear Mustaine himself was so damn grateful to be rated above them lol, and lets be honest he objectively is, now Mustaine may not be in the tier group of like a Paul Gilbert or John Petrucci or Buckethead and Satraini and Vai etc.- who the hell is no shame in that-but he's damn sure in the next tier group or 2 right below them absolutely, as for guys like Hemet well yeah lets just be honest he is more known for there making good catchy music not so much his technique, his technique/overall skill objectively cannot compare to Dave Mustaines thats simply an objective fact no question!. Anyone who mistakes this in my opinion or claims otherwise would be basing that on either there personal feeling/bias aka liking Hemmet say more then Mustaine on a personal/character level/ or simply liking/preferring Metallica more then Megadeath musically. But thats not the issue/argument the issue is who is objectively the superior guitar player at the end of the day technique/skills/speed etc. and on that front again id Say objectively Dave Mustaine is!.
What I admire the most about Mustaine is his utmost sense of precision... and many times all the while he's singing... The guy is the Swiss precision of thrash metal...
@@anish3183 Yes, but that's also part of thrash metal itself. Kirk Hammet is also prime example of that, some solos are "sloppy" while some are laser sharp.
@@wazson3178Nah, when Kirk USED to be able to solo, they weren’t sloppy. Dave on the other hand never lost the ability to solo because he couldn’t solo in the first place
@stantorren4400 as much as I like kirk dave is just more unique and technical with his solos. Kirk's solos peaked in justice while dave mustaine still continued to get better and surpass kirk
@@alfonso2561 So you have ears? Dave’s solos haven’t changed. Unlike kirk, he never lost the ability to solo, BECAUSE HE COULDN’T SOLO in the first place. He’s never improved solo wise, they sound the same
The speed, fluidity, accuracy, creativity, and explosiveness of Dave' solos/playing is just mind-blowing! It doesn't even seem real or possible that someone could play that way - not to mention sing, as well! Very well possibly the greatest metal guitarist to have ever lived!
Im aspiring to be as good as Dave Mustaine on the guitar. No easy feat, but if I just keep learning Mustaine solos one after the other, a few other guitarists, practice the scales and improvisation, I can get there. Then I'll start a band. I'm at about 80% speed for the Conjuring solo rn. Just keep practicing.
@@mikeokhurtz2152 Just find another style of vocal most Metalheads are lazy guys who Just want brutal vocals nowdays... If his Band had a Phil anselmo vocal style people won't notice ...
7:34 This very lead track beginning caught my attention,the first time I ever hear them,and it was on Head Bangers Ball... Dave has been one of my favorites ever since then..... My favorite is,and always will be Randy Rhodes,may he R.I.P...
He's probably the best Thrash Soloist of the bunch, I know marty is there with him, but I never see marty's playing as "Thrash" his is more oriental and eastern than thrash.
If we talk about guitar work Dave is probably one of the best ones if not the best. He's able to create the most aggressive, complex, fastest, but also melodic and emotional riffs and solos, all that while singing! And it seems he got all that by experience and practise. He's just insane, a genius!
I like the chick at 7:39 with the MetallicA shirt on 😂 Dave is a much, much better lead guitarist than Kirk could ever hope to be, but the ol ‘tallica boys are my favorite
@@nickparkes479 dave is cleaner live but Kirk at least wrote memorable solo's with some sense of melody. Fade to Black, Sanitarium, One, Orion all great solos that you could sing back if you wanted. dave is (usually) just raging on the fretboard which is cool but i mean... come one dude, you're being a bit biased
The best of Dave is not just that he can sing while playing crazy rhythms, but also wrote insane shredding solos or lead riffs really often, not like a usual rhythm guitarist in a band.
That guitar solo where two guitars are playing the same notes is called "harmonizing".....harmonizing guitars adds a deeper feel to the sound. Iron Maiden of famous for harmonizing guitars in almost all their songs.
Absolute legend folks. Not many people can say they’ve accomplished as much as Dave, not to mention the adversity he faced on the way up. Definitely worth a life making a movie about
I don't think people understand, you're normal "underrated" solos are most definitely his from beyond like certain songs from PSBWB, towards the whole album of SFSGSW. Mustaine's sloppiness & messiness is still style & how he solos, it fits in perfectly for PSBWB & certain parts of KIMB...ABIG & SFSGW. Poland was insanely creative, he had some great changes, his solos fit in perfectly for the first 2 albums. Young had some interesting solos & fills on SFSGSW that makes the album & it's taste unique, including how he played riffs or just how they made the PS intro in Essen, '88. Friedman didn't do much of this, but, he wanted to keep the albums going & make them fit-in with the riff or lyrics. His weird picking style became insanely unique where his bends & hammer offs were just perfect in awe. It's like any jazz or blues solos at times. They're all good though at the end of the day.
El mejor, sobre todos, no hay algo que diga, esto es mejor que Dave Mustaine en el planeta. La perfeccion en la Guitarra. Y la mejor banda le pese a quien le pese
Dave plays a lot of solos with ascending licks......he LITERALLY drags his index finger up the guitar fret boars while his other three fingers do all kinds of crazy shit!
He did the Good Mourning/Black Friday solo? My eyes are almost tearing for joy! ❤ I thought it was Chris Poland at first. Now I'm just overcome with joy! He did play with an Orchestra on playing along when they were doing Vivaldi. Oh and he does the one in Sweating Bullets too! 😍 What people have to realize here too is that the doctor told him he would never be able to play guitar again after he had an injury at some point. He proved them wrong. Let me add here that he beats Yngwie Malmsteen!!!
Dude I love Megadeth. You've got mustaine with the classic thrash shred chops and riff genius then his guitar sidekick with all the virtuoso greatness. Chris Poland and Marty are my favs
yeah...those albums with Marty and Dave, are some of the most Technical and Brutal Heavy Metal Recordings in the history of rock and roll. a level not surpassed in my opinion
