Some great variants here. The Pandora's Box 6 and its many clones are still hard to beat for bang for buck as there was a great jump in emulation quality, with PSX addition, and the important indexing feature which was added then oddly removed from later models!
I've got the Pandora Games 3D (not the plus), and I love it! Psp/Dreamcast and below works well, good game selection, and with pandory it's easy to add games
I'm glad you're enjoying your experience. Everyone has their own feelings re: value- and if you are enjoying your box- don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Have fun! ;-)
Hi there, love the channel and have just subscribed. Could you let me know where I could buy the number 1 option which includes twin arcade stick set up? Thanks again and keep up the good work
Great stuff, liked and subscribed. I'm new to all this, got a DX on order for my arcade cabinet - Surprised to see Speedball 2, how did that get there?
Just a question. You say that Pandora Games 3D+ and Pandora 3D saga have the Amlogic S812 board but you also says that 3D Saga is the fastest and the lower in lag!! More over, the 3D saga has 1080p output and the 3D+ has 720p output, how is it posible? You need a more powerful hardware to play 1080p than to play 720p resolutions!! 😵 So which are the differences that make the saga faster? 🤔 Thanks in advance, great video! 👍🏼
Saga output is 720p ... They share the same chip but the software is different, and even though they share the same cpu, the board is laid out differently
Yep... That's because it's a Pandora Games 3D+ downgraded to the Pandora Games 3D firmware. The original NeoGeo also slows down, but with the older firmware, we can insert FBA configurations to boost the cpu core... I swear I mentioned it a few times in this video ;-) - You can easily get Metal Slug to speed up in RetroArch too, if you wanted to install that.
Why no Jailbreak? I'd say 3D saga if you like the power of the 3D but, less controller latency- but the Treasure II has... issues with ... heavier things. Also if you don't have a ribbon cable / arcade controls/ buttons- you'll have a bad time. Use only a microsd and you can have emuelec and you wouldn't even need a jailbreak.
@@TeamPandory i never play dreamcast n64 ps1 on this devices my main focus is always fba and mame . I had a 4s+ then a 6 and now a 3D but iam not really happy with the 3D it has lag :/ yeah i know i can jailbreak stuff but my laptop is in bad shape at the moment. I would prefer a plug and play device with cool shmups on it. Soo what would be the best option? (I would mod it into my pandora 3d case from iyo)
@@bonggzilla do you have lag? I have a pandora box 3D WiFi plus (4018 games) and I got lag on my TV but I don’t on a monitor (I’m not sure if the length of the HDMI cable influences on the performance / input lag). I have to investigate further TV configuration and so... Did you try it on a plain monitor, not a TV? Different cables or cable lengths?
I have a few questions regarding the 3D pandora Saga: You mention that the 3D Pandora saga has all the data on the microSD and is limited to 64GB? Could you not just upgrade to a bigger microSD? Does this have the ability to play older games without any screen tearing? As well as can scores be saved at all on those older games say like pac-man even after the system has been shut down? Is there a way to add coin operation to arcade versions of games?
Sorry for the late reply. The Saga3D is using linux partitions, so it's limited to 64gb unless you can expand the partition somehow. The Saga3D doesn't have any screen tearing, and the only way to save scores is to use the SAVE STATE feature. Coin operation may be possible, but these machines are not made to be used exactly like the real arcade. They work best as an emulation box that is on timed play when you use a coin.
Hi there! Great video! I’m a noob to all this, and I’m just looking for something that comes with loads of games built in that I can play (mega drive/ SNES/ ps1) on my tv using my PS4 controller, but I don’t have a PC to jailbreak or add games- which one is best to get? Thanks!
It's always best to upgrade buttons / sticks... But sometimes you can get lucky and have a decent set on the get-go. I was extremely lucky with my set of baolian buttons / sticks- but sanwa / seimitsu are a level above. If you're meaning accuracy as in controller latency, then that is dependant on the box itself. This is why we have mentioned latency in this top ten list also.
2:15 what is a main sample? Have a pandoras saga dx plus that came in an arcade cabinet I had made. Should I regret it? 😭 Anything I should know beforehand before fiddling with it?
Sorry if this question has been asked before, but what is the best Jamma edge arcade monitor friendly CGA 15khz Pandora board that I can currently get? That's also able to run the wonderful Pandory tools too of course. I'm assuming it's the DX - but am hoping the might be another option with slightly more grunt. Thanks.
Pandora board- the DX is the only one that supports pandory. If you want more grunt I'd suggest going for the arcipi or the RGB2PI, or whatever they're called. Unfortunately pi boards are pretty expensive now though.
@@TeamPandory Thanks for the instantaneous reply!!! Is there any benefit is getting a DX 'Special' 5000 in 1 over the standard DX? Or any downside in getting the cheaper CX?? Obviously will be needing the Jamma edge CGA version. And thanks again for everything... the videos, the hacks, and the knowledge... all brilliant and invaluable!!!
Been watching through this, and I'm wondering: there are a lot of promising options, but if I'm mainly looking for a box that plays arcade games smoothly, with minimal/no screen tearing, which one would you recommend?
@@TeamPandory Thanks! I do have a good gaming rig that can emulate games great, but there's just something about having a plug n play arcade device that tickles my fancy. :)
@@americawalk1154 We used emuelec with it. The light gun at the time was the wiimote / mayflash bar, but gun4ir will work okay- the steering wheel was the xbox360 steering wheel. We have a separate video for that (search emuelec on treasure ii)
@@SuperRiddick69 if you need cga 15khz, the only boards that can output that on the jamma edge are the dx, cx, and the x games- which are not capable of running mvc2
Question i was just looking at the pandora 3D Saga and looks like the have a jamma set up for it. I wanted to confirm if that is correct and does this pandora box play MVSC 2 and Killer instinct arcade? what is the best plug and play box to play those two games?
Pandora Saga... you said it doesn't have controller compatibility. What do you mean? Also is the 18s pro the same as the Pandora saga as you mentioned in the video? Need help deciding which to get then
That means only one or two controllers worked when plugging them in via USB. These should be mainly used as arcade boxes with bartop arcade style controllers plugged in via the harness. If you want the easiest non-faff solution, currently the DX with PandoryDX installed is the one to go for. - Which is in the top 3, if this list was to be updated ;)
@@gks554 cheap PS3 wireless style (with usb dongle) from AliExpress, the logicool Xbox360 compatible that looks like a PS2 pad, and maybe the Xbox 360 pad for pc.
@@TeamPandory I hope we are on the same page, its the saga ex2 I'm on about. Ok, sorry for being too persistent, really am, but I just dont get one thing, how come on your compatibility chart it says only Xbox 360 wired controller works on saga? Did you just forget to update it or..? Ps3 with dongle? Are these all on Ali express? Why is everything changing. First Xbox 360 seems fine, then it may not work. Then ps3 will then won't. What is going on?? Again, apologies for the disturbance all the time.
@@gks554 you need to realise that this video was made years ago when only a few Pandora boxes existed. The saga you have may be totally different from the one that's in the video. Xbox360 console and the xbox360 pc controller are different. I'm sure the pc version works but the console version will probably have issues. The ps3 style cheap pads (not the official Sony ones) are on AliExpress, and they usually come with the super console X and other systems. Lastly, these Pandora boxes are best played with arcade sticks and buttons, and the saga is one of the worst when it comes to controller compatibility.
Hi!! 1 question you say in the end of this video,that number 1 is PSA -S812-001 motherboard 3D pandora Saga AKA pandora 18S Pro! Right? But in your video it says that it has 4118 games,but the pandora 18s Pro rrtv i have found for sale or even here in RU-vid it says 8000 games, so which one is it??
@@TeamPandory so it's the same motherboard in both or they have different motherboard after all? Any suggestions which one to pick? should i look for the PSA -S812-001 or should i get even if i found the one that it says pandora 18S pro rrtv?. Actually 1 thing that it doesn't show in the video,its the games menu of the PSA -S812-001 motherboard, so i should know how the menu looks like! It only shows straight to the games play. Is it possible to post a link of the image of that motherboards games menu???
Hi, nice video! I have a question. Currently I have a green PSA S812 S001 board with gb3000v5 firmware, running Pandora 18s Pro. Is it recommended to upgrade the firmware to gb3000 1.4 20200217? Thanks!
@@TeamPandory Hmmm...in that case, I think I might go with that one. And that's even without jailbreaking, correct? Also, I noted you said the Pandora Ex 8000 was good for arcade emulation as well. WHich of the links is that?
There's been no real changes... But the DX has gone up a bit to become one of the most desirable options. If you don't need PSP / DC emulation- then the DX is a good one.
Hello! A have the CX model. Is it possible to map my playstation controller right? R2 button doesn't work at all. I've tried three diferrent controllers. I've installed oddworld: abe's oddysee rom and i need the R2 button.
We haven't tried the plus firmware on the Saga, but even if it were possible, all of the games installed would be incompatible, and it'd destroy your games list on the microsd. Be careful when you mess with firmwares.
What game do you like best ? Personally I'd go for a horizontal... More games and you view everything that way anyways. Eyes in your head go across. Not vertical
@@TeamPandory number 1 is Ms Pac-Man for the wife, I initially was thinking 60 in 1 old school retro arcade but I've been dazzled by 2-10k games. In reality I will probably only use, old favorites, donkey kong, dig dug, Galaga. All vertical I think? Kinda answering my own question 🙃. But I have never used either one before. I've been researching for 2 days now, I'm trying to avoid missteps. I have a friend who is going to airbrush the artwork, Thanks for helping me out!
@@craigcoffman69 We've reviewed two vertical Pandora boxes- Take a look... The KOA2 / Vertical DX machines will have the forced HD filter off in the next version of our tool, PandoryDX- should be out any day now- we're making the final touches to it right now.
Hi mate, Sorry about my rudeness but if I buy a "3d pandora saga" is capable of running on my Arcade Jamma with 15 kHz Hantarex monitor or better if there were a better choice. Best regards from Spain
Not rude at all. I'm currently trying to find a solution for my 15hkz to do this, but as far as I know, easiest box to use for this is the jamma dx or cx. For the saga you will need to convert the vga signal and feed it directly to your board, as all other boards output in 720 or 1080p, at 60hz or so
@@TeamPandory It could be we need this converter? www.arcadexpress.com/es/cableado-cables/311-conversor-pandora-box-home-edition-a-jamma-.html Or even plus a to 60hz to 15?
@@juaneaab6795 That converter would only allow JAMMA controls to be used with a family machine. You need to convert the VGA signal to 15khz / and also the resolution, too
Harnesses are usually universal with the Pandora units. The biggest difference between the 3D and the 3A (Box 4, CX, DX) are the back plates. The holes for HDMI, USB being in a different place. That, and if video is being output on the JAMMA edge or not.
Best Pandora box... Without controller lag... There's always going to be a slight bit of delay, but the lowest is probably the DX, followed by the Key7, then the SAGA 4188 or EX2.
@@bonggzilla The saga 4188 is pretty much a pg3d wifi with lower latency. I wouldn't say it is a major step up. Might be worth trying an Android box with emuelec or perhaps a minipc next?
Got a arcade machine and to be honest not really happy with the games, 6000 games but so many versions of the same games, no snes or console games which makes me real unhappy, prbably some cheap knock off, on the menu screen it says OS PANDORA GAMES AUSTAR-L01, Please let me know whats the best replacement? One guy told me pandora dx 5000, can you please tell me
Currently the best one to get is probably the pandora box DX. It is a sure device to work with pandory that can enhance the experience somewhat. They've nerfed the pandora games 3d so much that it's no longer a decent buy. And the copycat products with similar names doesn't help one bit.
I have a Pandora Box 6, and while it does run games quite well, there's some noticeable screen tearing in certain games, especially in the Marvel vs. Games. Any ideas for boxes with similar specs that have little to no screen tearing?
@@SN-vr1xt Pretty much any if not all of these boxes will be a step up... Only the bottom few have screen tearing, and those at the top really do open up a new level of Pandora experience with psp / dc play (tekken 6 / marvel vs Capcom 2) Each one will have it's quirks / annoyances, but that's what you get with these cheap boxes.
ayuda necesita ayuda😭. Recientemente mi padre compró una pandora 28s pro, estaba muy contento, pero en eso comencé a investigar en línea si había alguna forma de agregar roms a la máquina y descubrí que se puede hacer a través de usb, pero el problema es que la máquina tiene 2 puertos usb, pero uno de esos estaba muy duro pero lo intente poner pero derrepente se dejó de ver en la televisión y dejó de escucharse. Lo apagué y volví a encender y todavía sigue con el mismo proble qué puedo hacer ??, por favor, ayúdame, mi padre me matará. Necesito tu ayuda, por favor. dame una solucion
hi,great video. i have a question,i now have pandora 9 on arcade cabinet with crt 28 what pandora can i choose from the list for an upgrade so it can match with my screen?
@@EfthimiouE if It's vga, I think many of these boxes are compatible. The one you may have issues with are the true 1080p ones like the key7. I don't really know for sure as knowing only the size of your monitor and input doesn't tell me what it can display. If you can get the pg3d in there it'd kick ass tho :)
ARRRGHHHH! Lowest latencies are seen on the DX/CX/Key 7/ SAGA 4188/ Pandora SAGA EX / SAGA MINI TV BOX. PG3D+ has noticeable latency, PG3D has less, but may be noticeable by some.
I need help please! I'm trying to buy one for my husband for Christmas and I want to make sure that I get a good one. He was an arcade addict when he was younger. He has dreamcast, nintendo and super nintendo consoles and games like that. Which one would you recommend for someone who is really familiar with arcade games? 😥😥😥 and would you recommend a wifi version?
Check this link > pg3d-hax.uk/buying-a-pandora/ , If you want him to have no hassle, then go for a Pandora 3D 6 button bartop box with wifi - They're usually the safest bet. Make sure you don't get a 7000 games model. 2650, 4018 or 4118 games is usually a safe bet.
@@TeamPandory this is the specifications of the one I was planning on buying. Would it be a good one to buy? The price is $299 😬 Specifications: .Material: Metal Body + Acrylic Panel .Dimension: 29.92 inch (76cm) in length, 8.66 inch (22cm) in width. 4.33 inch (11cm) .RAM: 128G .ROM: 1G .GPU: Mali 450MP8 .Video Output: HD/VGA 1280*720 P .CPU: ARM Cortex A9 quad-core 2.0G .Material: Metal + Electronic Components .Product Weight: 3500g .Package Dimensions: 78 x 28 x 16cm .Package Weight: 5500g .Packing: Carton Box
Yep. DX jumped a few places due to Pandory being released on it. A few of the boxes have ceased to exist and more clone systems have appeared that mostly suck.
guys i am looking to buy pandora box , i see in my region only pandora 9H is available, i want to play SF,KOF,cadillac dinasorus & snow bros only, do you think that box will be okay??? is there any lag on that?
Hi, I have a pandora 6s, which however does not satisfy me very much, although I am not very interested in the emulation of newer or 3D games. I would like to change it ... which one do you recommend? (for use on VGA / HDMI monitors). This 6s that I have is in a stick with which I am fine, possibly I could only change the pandora card inside, keeping the same dashboard? I have seen that usually the exits on the back are always the same.
@@Pumpkinold same as the first one in this video. Thing is, there are clones of clones that make it difficult to recommend anything other than the DX at this point in time.
@@TeamPandory I don't get it why are they doing this, what's the reason? Is it the same also for 3D Pandora EX2 Saga 8000 and Pandora's Box 18S Pro 8000?
@@gabedel9456 they keep messing around with the firmware / software to increase "security"... The 18s is pretty much the pandora saga 4188 with a skin. But there are even 2 versions of that now too. It's a mess.
@@TeamPandory ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-pRzCAZt7brE.html i came across the king of air box. is there a site that has all the specs listed? i just saw the CX you showed a pic of will go down to really low rez out of the jamma harness.
Light me , to use on Arcade Cabinet we need jamma conncetor for Buttons and Joysticks ,wich Pando 3D we need in this case to get the two players wires connexions and all the best 3D games ? not Yet Atomiswave and Dreamcast games ?
