After putting around 100k views by myself it’s time to react after six years 😅. This is one of the most satisfying track Supra’s I’ve seen on RU-vid. Knowing the track is one thing, pushing a supra with 600hp into corners and managing to hold without the back getting loose is just so satisfying to watch. 🔥
@@zaramaymartinez19 bruh you are talking about engines... 2jz Is very good, with Little effort It can make triple the Power of a hayabusa engine. Lastly, bikes are made for the straights, they weigh 200kgs and have only 2 wheels, in track, cars slaughter them
I thought the same thing. The SR3 was obviously going to have the edge in the technical turns. But damn, that Supra was so stable and smooth! I think the Supra driver definitely knew the track better.
Wow, there's me thinking supras handle like a bar if soap. One well sorted car and great driving too, clearly the radical us quicker on the corners but your supra was faster in the straights
sp royals thats what i was thinking. Thats why theyre mainly used as strait line cars bc once you add so much power it becomes an ass to handle. This guy clearly knows how to set his car and drive it. He kept up with a race car lmao
I think 600-700hp is a sweet spot for Supras. Tuning is easier, still difficult but much easier to control than a 1000hp. I really enjoyed just hearing the turbo spool and the whistling sound every time you lift the foot off the accelerator.
Indeed my guy, ngl, if I'd be able to get a Supra like this, I'd say 550 is enough for a grip track race like this and more focus on suspension, brakes, and handling tuning. Idk but correct me if I'm wrong, I believe that 600 - 700 HP are good for a GT car like these that weighs heavy (like MK4 Supra, and Skyline GTR's and again, correct me if I'm wrong) and for a lightweight cars like Civics, Miatas, WRX STI, Evos, and Silvia's, 250 - 500 is the perfect sweet spot!!
@@oOinsertusernameOo what's the power to weight ratio? I guess the radical is lighter with much lower center of gravity and good aerodynamics. It was purpose built as a track car. weighs less than 700kg, 0-60mph time of less than 4 seconds and lateral force of 2.3g (from manufacturer's website). The supra driver did a good job.
@@creeser777 the fastest ever lap by a radical sr3 is a 7:19 and the fastest by this supra is a 7:18 so technically the supra would win if there was no blocks anyway
Not a question. Still, the Supra will never be a Radical or even just Lotus equivalent, weight wise, even when stripped, so driving it round a corner like that is mighty impressive to me.
This is a high speed track. Outright power beats power/weight. You can see the Radical getting away in the corners, but the supra catching up in the straights. Drag starts penalising low powered cars very quickly.
@@Benobi2 Cars might be good, but owners/drivers are usually (90%) just dicks, like stated. So... in which group do you belong? Because seeing a BMW that IS NOT passing others on the road like a lunatic, is like a fucking unicorn.
BlackStar250874 I shit you not: the only time I’ve ever seen a BMW driver use turn signals in real life was about a month ago... and it was to cut off an other BMW.
This supra just passed a super lightweight sportscar. This is so amazing because this isn't even a fully built track prep Supra. Wow this Supra still has a lot of potential. what tires are you running?
Well... after all the costs of the supra you could buy 3 of those radical's .. which probably drive much nicer on the track. Top speed isnt so relevant imo, cornering is what its all about. If it was a Radical SR8 the supra wouldnt be able to catch it anywhere.
Oh yes i understand that, but i reckon if i'd want something for a very specific purpose... i'd get a purpose built machine, or create it with the best possible base to start with. You know that Radical SR3 only got 210 bhp? the later SR3 SL had 240. But you need 600bhp and alot of modifying to keep up with that little rocket... love that thing.
Maybe we've seen a different video... The Supra has straight line speed. And that was why he was able to overtake the Radical. But in the corners, it's no match for the Radical. Just on exit speed that thing always creates a considerable gap. Not to mention, that as soon as the Supra got a couple of corners the Radical was able to overtake him once again. The Supra might have a lot of horsepower. But nothing beats a light car. Now throw a couple HP more on that Radical and a longer high gear and tell me where the Supra stands. I'm not bashing the car, be aware. Lets just be realists.
mudemmeonick Of course the Radical is faster than the Supra in the corners but the fact remains that the Supra wasn't exactly getting dusted. Props to the driver of the Supra for his skills and suspension/tire set up
The Supra was only able to get the Radical on the straights and it seems, attention to me saying it seems, the Supra in some sections is being driven close to the limit. That SR3 still had more to give on some corners. You're comparing apples to oranges. You're forgetting that's a very probably stock 250hp SR3 vs a heavily modified 600hp Supra. You're talking about 350hp and it still manages to get away on anything other than straight line speed. Get back to my last lines: give the SR3 some more hp and a longer high gear. The Supra has its place. But it isn't against a Radical. It looked childish to let himself get tingled by being overtaken by the Radical.
mudemmeonick agree to disagree. The point isn't to show the Supra is a better track car than a dedicated platform like the Radical, it's to show that a properly modded Supra can handle a track well and that it's place isn't just on the interstates. It's on over engineered 1990s Toyota touring car that deserves respect
Years later I still come back to watch this video. The Supra is always know as a thing of legend because I can do just about anything if setup for a purpose. When people say Supra's are only fast in a straight line im sure your video is used for reference. 30 year old thing of Legend it is.
If the radical racer was more confident and faster in the corners he would’ve chewed up the Supra easy. The only point at which the Supra caught him was in the straight where the radical let him pass cause it’s safe. Then he took him over again. Y’all be silly
@@Pudekz51790 what? With a better driver, yeah. The fastest time for an sr3 is 7:11 so definitely could beat the supra *if the driver is better* also, the power to weight ratio/hp per pound matters more than just raw hp.
That radical was not driven well really - it has so much downforce that I was wrong physically for a good few hours after going round a circuit in one and although it was driven by a radical champion, we were passing huracans driven as track taxis like they were standing still and braking was violent 2.5 g instantly - just found this on the radical review page (Braking is an extremely violent experience) haha so I’m not alone ! - well driven in the supra, though that radical should have utterly disappeared in the corners...
Yo are talking nonsense...watch an F1 making a lap around Spa for example and realize the HUGE diference between F1 and some track car vs tunner... Ok F1 is not what it used to be, but don't dare to compare it against this...
Wow - this is the first Nurburgring video that has got my pulse racing with a proper sense of speed - I'd love to see these two cars go at it with no other vehicles on the track - that would be amazing
This guy's braking and handling of the car is just unbelievable, he seem to be playing around with throttle and shifting at leisure just to play around with the SR3, not many driver+car can do that with a Radical @ Nurburgring
The radical is definitely a quicker car . You can see constantly pulling away and it can handle corners better . I think the Supra guy is better at driving around the track though .
I'm more of a Radical fan boy than a Supra fan boy, and I'm not saying which car is faster, but you can't argue that this driver had braking points pretty much dead on at every turn, at least for this lap, which is harder to do on a higher power heavier car, and he was definitely playing around with throttle and shifting at some parts to let the SR3 catch up, though of course at some sections he had to really chase down hard to keep up. Also, being a Radical doesn't automatically out run other cars, this one is only a SR3 after all. I can see that this Supra has full dash, roll cage, and no racing sequential, but what if he has gearing set up for this track, running on wide slicks, massive aeroes front and back, fully stripped elsewhere? 300hp 1500lbs car will probably beat a 600hp 3000lbs car, but probably not a 2500lbs car, or at least it will be a close race, especially with so many long straights like this track.
There is no doubt Radical will always beat stock or near stock Supra on Nurburgring, even with quite a bit of power increase, but if a racing team decide that they will take a JZA80 chassis and engine design to compete in LM GTE (though this is probably not a good idea and they will never win races), the car will easily beat SR3s and probably even stock SR8s. Sure, the end product would be something beyond recognizable as Supra, but it would still be technically a 'Supra' with chassis and engine resembling a Supra. My point is, that you can make any car go fast. 911 GT3 Cup is perfect example. Also, SR3 runs mid 7 on stock tires, SR8 runs high 6 on stock tires at Nurburgring, which is already being approached by stock cars on stock tires, ie GT2 RS, Performante, etc. Don't get me wrong, I would rather be driving a Radical any day, at any track, than any production based cars, but 'Radical = always faster than anything' is a dangerous statement. And by the way, Radical owners usually don't care about which car is faster, or if their car is faster or slower than something, most of the time they are talking about suspension settings and slick tire grades
Stock SR3 can beat this at Nurburgring? commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:2003_Toyota_DENSO_SARD_Supra_(JGTC)_No.39_at_Sepang_Intl._Circuit,_Malaysia.jpg
Yea you are delusional and you continue living in your non-scientific fantasy world. My point is that you can completely gut a Supra, add ridiculous amount of power, which isn't difficult, put massive aeros, tweak suspension and gearing and put on slicks to beat an stock SR3, even a stock SR8 on Nurburgring. It would make no financial sense, but it is quite possible.
Might be late to the party here but i've watched this video a few times now and your car and driving is simply awesome. The way it flat out hauls AND corners well is something rarely seen. Awesome job.
One of the best Nurb lap videos I've seen. Incredible sound from both machines. The long flutter on the SSQV's. Supra driver just knows he can eat the Radical alive on the straights and gets so excited when he does. Radical catches right back up after the straight as expected. Superb driving
No, this is an SR3, not an SR8. SR3s are still very quick track cars, but with the high speed nature of this track it's not the dominant car that it's big brother is.
@Jethro Hull Jethro Hull Hmmm 🤔, a purpose built racecar that barely weighs a 1000lbs, racecar aerodynamics, suspension and gearing vs what you call a "tuner car"... I say that's more than impressive bud... but to each their own
Car that's faster on the straights vs car that's faster in the corners, and the nordschleife has lots and lots of both so each car has its opportunity.
Holy crap that Supra is very well sorted. The refined horsepower is impressive, but the cornering and handling are unbelievable. Oh, nevermind the driver actually knowing how to drive. 10/10
Ra Ma I don't get it. So if you laugh when you are having fun it's childish? He didn't break any track rules, it was a clean fun race. How is having fun childish? 🤣
TJ the turbo flutter or compressor surge is a result of pressure building up with no blow off valve aka pressure relief valve. The air pressure become so great that the air is forced back through the intake manifold. BOV make a loud hissing sound, not to be confused with the high whistling sound which is the turbo spooling. A BOV sounds like a soft drink bottle being opened. There is clearly no BOV in this supra, hence the obvious turbo flutter/compressor surge sound.
You guys are talking about of your asses. Yes loads of Supras run no blow off valve. Ths is not one. That is the sound of an HKS SSQV style blowoff. Other manufacturers make ones that sounds similar. Go type it into RU-vid. There is literally a whistle in the trumpet piece when he lifs off the throttle and it vents to atmosphere. That is why it sounds like that. Not the spooling part, or the surging part, the chirp itself.
Who is this supra driver?? The supra driver is by all definition professional driver. His usage of Throttle, and breaking points and playing with the break and gas is something I rarely see. Hes very intune with that car. He even slows down by simply lifting off the throttle and sparing his breaks and body roll. He understands distance and bank angles.I was convinced the Raddicle was electrical powered. Bloody hell its quick.
mate you DEFINITELY don't have to be a professional to drive like him. Understanding things like bank angles is like grade 2/common sense stuff....and all you have to do is drive a course a couple times to figure out where the best brake points are and this obviously wasn't his first time driving it. He's definitely a good driver but the way you talk about it makes me think you're like 15 and only play racing video games.
not the best, just good driving skills in the circuit, weight balance, vison and throttle usage is the basics thing to run in the circuit the most basic thing you can start with, brakes are quite hard to use, that car can go faster and make a best time in that track 7 minutes and 46 secods is quite slow, im pretty sure it can make a better time closer to 7 minutes or less
dude i own a BPU supra too . . . i never thought of supra could hv that much potential and stability unti i see ur video . . dude SUPERB driving skills . how u learn that
Absolutely fantastic round. Here you can see perfect how good the car in maximum speed is and how good and perfectly this "hellbikecar" in curves is...
I don't know what model of Supra you have but it is a monster! You have clearly put some excellent work into it and it performs beautifully (coupled with excellent driving of course).
