Best to Worst : All Weapons in Starfield 

Combined with the fact that a Terramorph has 0% energy resistance so yeah doing a weapons test vs a Terramorph was a bad ide.

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@@Kyle-nm1kh Nifty. But we are not talking about geometry. We are talking about English.

So it doesn't upgrade the tier, right?

@@qtar1984 correct, only the level up to the maximum of the tier. Unique weapons don't have tiers.

@@drakowerewolf7209 So I can level up the Mantis Armor this way too?

@@qtar1984 unfortunately no. I've tried the exploit with mannequins and it didn't work. And it looks to be that space suits don't follow the same rules as guns. No matter what level I am, the Mantis suit has same stats on every NG+

​@@drakowerewolf7209Do you need to wait or reload a save in order to get the upgrade?

Also note terrormorph also have ballistic damage resistances. Some alien creatures are massively resistant to laser damage. So testing weapons on one the tankiest enemies in the game will throw the whole test out when using inappropriate weapons against it. They are heavily armored, so laser and EM damage is a no brainier by default. TheYamiks again showing he is more interested in coming off as entertaining rather than informative.

This test is not a good representation of gun performance becouse of the target they are tested on. A Terramorph has a huge balistic resistance stat so any weapon using balistic dmg is gonna suck against it. On the other hand a Terramorph has 0% energy resistance regardless of difficulty or NG+ so the top weapons just won be default becouse they dealt primarly energy based dmg vs an enemy type with 0% resistance.

Bruh, they’re so ugly. And look so uncomfortable to hold. The rifle especially is so big for no reason.

......i said : all damage affecting perks equipped!

​@@TheYamiksmy bad i heard the part with "no modifications" and thought that also meant no perks. Have you watched the interview that the head of Insomniac Games did with Todd Howard?

Except its clear from the first segment his perks ate not maxed, let alone not using consumables either

Additionally not mentioned is his conclusions only apply to the terrormorph and high hp targets The time to kill is shown but extremely skewed because the target is a terrormorph and fire is exceptionally op Time to kill a level 100 pirate lord or equivalent humanoid or robot would’ve been a lot more representative than terrormorphs that are extremely rare

@@luzhang2982 the same result would have3 been for something like "pirate legend" none of the weapons has any ""bonus"" for aliens. All stock basic stuff!

......sounds like a sad joke. but ok. i was so saddened to see how crap melee ended up being!

That's funny. I didn't look up anything, and had fought a dozen by like 5hrs in and haven't seen any since 😂

@@jasonmcbride637 were they connected to UC quest?

@@ravenheartwraith yeah they were. Looks like I did the fun fights early 🫠

@@jasonmcbride637 I'm a Freestar guy so I didn't really bother with the other factions until well into NG+, hence the higher levels. They don't really show up much in exploration, at least not in my case, but I did a lot of it.

I did the same, one or two shots and either they or I die... something dies at least. But the only thing I can't find a good balance is detection. Either they spot me a mile away ducking or fail to see me standing a foot away.

@@Shadow__133 I haven't even touched stealth. Even though I genuinely love picking my enemy off one or even two at a time, it's not worth truly becoming the assassin until a good mod comes out that has it down. I can deal somewhat with my full set of chameleon armor and stealth skills, except for the fact that sometimes enemies will start shooting at me when the meter is still in caution.

What's the name of the mod?

​@@josephwilson6272 It's two mods Less Spongy Enemies (5 for the optional health gain) and if you scroll down you'll see a mod that's Less Spongey players. I play on very hard as well.

@@Indo6627 Oh, you got me wrong... I hate the too stealthy aspect lol. I increased my detection stats (sound/light) because I found it too unrealistic that you can sneak within feet of targets. 😂

Soinds better thou heh

The AA-99 with explosive rounds is so much fun to use and one of my lost used weapons. If an enemy takes cover you can just shoot the ground next to them.

Is it actually better suppressed?

@@BlueOvals24 with Concealment maxed out it is 4x times higher with stealth shots.

@@BlueOvals24 Stealth lasers with ignition beams seem to kill bosses quicker though. Fire damage is very op in this game.

@@Aceshooting So far my favorite thing to do is gravity wave a boss and hit them with Coachman + hornets nest. I'll add a a suppressor and see how that goes

Except if you don't invest points into it, then it doesn't determine what is good or not because all weapons would not have it. The game is designed fine, fire is a choice.

@Kyle-nm1kh My point is that one mechanic makes all the difference, regardless of build, if you want to deal meaningful damage

​@@Khtras​No. You still do meaningful damage without fire. If you want to be one of those people that chases numbers because you lose sleep at night over not having the highest numbers achievable, then use a weapon that ignites the target.

Ooooohhh???!!

@@TheYamiks the testing I did was rudementary but I did it as following me and my friend loaded up the story mission where you need to kill the terrormorph in the food plant, using a level 100 character, we put the game on max difficulty (witch also increased the burning damage because it's health percentage based) and killed the thing 10 times with the cutter, and only the cutter. He is on PC I'm on Xbox it took him almost half the time to kill it every time, the only difference in this scenario is the framerate which he tried to get pretty close to a constant 60 while mine being on console is locked at 30.

yes. while fro space suits "SUPERIOR" is the highest

You're right. At the start all of the enemies are very spongey. That being said, the weapon skills that give you damage buffs are some of the easiest things to level up if you see weak or low level fauna (like heat leeches) that die in one hit they will count toward your kill requirements for leveling a skill.

I think I just got one on my 2nd play through. I blew myself up because I didn't take into account the handrail 10 meters ahead of me..

Any form of energy damage will trigger it, particle uses a hybrid of physical and energy damage

cant spawn advanced? what? mate. you ether level up high -> the whole item pool also scales according yo your level (not everywhere, oddly, but mostly) but most importantly : NG+ would increase both enemy levels and dropped item "quality" Do tell what I missed here!?

@@TheYamiks I could explain how weapons are assembled in Bethesda games in detail but that would be pages of text and I doubt you or anyone else would read it. So, I make it short. The quality of a weapon usually comes in four quality tiers: - tier 1 is the basic variant that has no indicator in an item's name - tier 2 provides the Calibrated prefix - tier 3 provides the Refined prefix - tier 4 provides the Advanced prefix These four tiers are determined by hidden so-called "Object Mod" attachments, or OMOD for short in engine terms. These attachments will be applied dynamically and semi-randomised (based on area/character level) when an item is spawned. The problem being, while most weapons have all four quality attachments available, some of them only have attachments up to tier 3, thus lacking the Advanced variant - whether this is done intentionally or a bug is up for debate. Here are some screenshots taken from ESM Explorer to visualise what I'm trying to explain - there are more that are limited to tier 3 but I included only a couple of them for showcasing purposes: imgur.com/a/R0VMTQd I also poked around in the game's code, assets, and databases. I couldn't find anything that would explain getting access to an Advanced variant of those weapon, unless console commands are being used to attach another weapon's Advanced tier OMOD to one of the weapons that lacks an equivalent OMOD. I have a character around level 80 and never seen a single Advanced variant of those weapons. Thus it is fairly safe to say that there is no hidden mechanic that somehow makes weapons work fundamentally different than in previous Bethesda titles. And other players (including the users of my mods) confirmed that they also never got Advanced variants of those weapons. But don't just take my word for it. You can verify that yourself. Go to NexusMods, download "ESM Explorer" (or xEdit if you know how to make it read Starfield's plugins) and load the plugin "Starfield.esm". In there expand the OMOD (or Object Mod) section and search for the weapon attachments in question, as shown on the screenshots, either via FormID or EditorID.