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Hey Joshua, I have a problem and I was wondering if you can help me. I recently bought your DIY drone kit v2 analog version and Im almost done setting eveything up its just when I open betaflight now it keeps showing "-- Failed to open serial port" I had already downloaded all the drivers i needed and it was working just fine the days before its just now that it's not connecting, I would appericate it a lot if you had any advice on what i should do, Thank you.

Usually when I run into that issue, it’s due to a faulty cable.

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Probably safe to assume they will send the newest walksnail 1s vtx with the new vrx. If my goggles had an HDMI input I'd accept the 1 frame of delay vs flying a fat naked dji(so gross).

@@ChrisHarmon1 I certainly hope so. Looking forward to it even though for now it'll be plugging into a box goggle, until I'm able to see about picking up a hdzero goggle at some point.

Thanks for saving me 26 minutes 😂

@@TheVeganarchism That's my opinion that's not Bardwell's lol

I totally agree. The Walksnail picture when moving fast is so unclear, only big blobs of colour

Not like you have much of a choice with a tinywhoop.

Yeah, makers never use the great analog cameras! They always use the SKANKS! lol In the days of digital, that's just DUMB!

I think it really needs better antennas on the goggles those stubby antennas and then facing the rong way doesn't help HDzero needs more help than the other HD systems at least for now

Lowest I've heard of is a whoop at 35g with a Naked Vista! Try to beat it! my lowest is a 75mm carbon fiber RIPPER @ 38g! 😁

Gotta disagree there Holmes to to each their own

@@creationlabsinc.189 Me too!

See, you are believing the most OVER HYPED spec in all of FPV! Latency! You've got the Best Tech. HDZero isn't close! Go fly a DJI drone behind trees, bushes, and buildings. Explore and fly far away... Now, go fly an HDZero quad - LEARN! It can't punch itself out of a paper bag! No penetration! It's awful! Go for ANALOG2 if you want, but you already bought the best, and at the very best price too! It's not even close! Believe the hype if you want... Remember....say "one one thousand" very fast. That's a second. Now imagine breaking that one second into 1000 parts. That's a SHIT LOAD of parts all in one second of time! Then, try to tell me you can feel the difference between something with 6 parts (ms) more, that happens in ONE SINGLE SECOND! Do the math. Do the science. Use common sense & logic...That's what Chris Rosser tested to be the difference between DJI and HDZero...go watch his test a few days ago. Watch the video closely - Look at all of the image distortion in the HDZero image - especially when he crops in. HDZero is great for racing or flying in an open field. It can't fly behind objects because it has almost no penetration! Even Pro Pilot Vanover said, when he flew both back to back on a race course, blazing through the course - He could barely feel the difference and could compensate for it. His track times were almost identical. Hundredths of a second apart! If you look for it, you can find and watch that older video too.

hey im just getting into fpv and i recently got a dji fpv drone, it came with the goggles v2 and the rc controller 2. if i got one of these drones that have the dji, would i be able to use my goggles and controller with the drone? or would i need to do mods to the controller and goggles? or just they wont work? thanks!

@@benjfpv. It should work from what I remember, but you gotta switch the Goggles operating mode, as one is for the DJI FPV Combo and the other is for the CaddX Vista / Air Unit.

I here vhs is still in existence here and there to for nostalgia purposes as well.

@@creationlabsinc.189 How goods your digital link 27km out?

if they all had the same output power walksnail would have won in range. it's not hard capped like DJI is. i agree about VTX power making flight time much shorter and on micros we don't need more video range than the micro battery can travel.

@@djSpinege Will you go out over 13km with a 2S 450mAh battery? I doubt...

@@KnowThings ok, so you agree with us ...

TBF the extra power wouldnt just help overall range. It would also effect the bitrate and penetration, would it not?

Good choice if that is all you fly.

Yeah if you fly all sorts of quads that would be the way to go. I only fly digital so it doesn't work for me. To me, flying analog would be like going back to VHS.

@@dangerous8333 Or like going back to CRT TV's! lol

There the garden ripper especially Japanese gardens.with all those cool little trees and tight gaps. Road trip to San Francisco.

how much video delay is there on the vrx vs the goggles?

You are very right. My order would've been the other way because of variable latency and maybe analog goes to place 3. Fixing it to 2nd seams to influence HDZero too massively to the bad side...

Any flying the DJI version at 700ma to make it a fairer comparison.

The factory pid tune is pretty good.

My 38g, 75mm carbon fiber RIPPER, with a Naked Nebula Pro Nano in it, flies great! Low weight DJI quads can be built, it's just the manufacturers that have quit making BNF's, except for Flywoo. They could still shave a bunch of weight off these micros, if they actually buckled down and focused on ultra light! :)

@@KOrnhOliO1 what frame and flight controller are you using?

@@jlarson42 Fractal engineering, Fractal 75mm frame kit! Heads @ Infinity loops RU-vid channel uses it as his favorite and "daily driver". FC, just one I had laying around. I know I can get it down about 2g less weight if I used a lightweight FC. Can't find one I like that's in stock! What FC do you like and use for ultralight whoops?

@@KOrnhOliO1 my 65mm whoop isn't exactly a lite weight build. It's the fc, canopy / vtx+camera of a Happymodel Snapper7. Meteor 65 frame, betafpv 802 19,500kv motors, bt 2.0 connector and Crossfire Nano Rx with the Immortal T mini V2 antenna. Weight is 21.5g without the lipo. My emax nanohawk I converted to open prop based on Mr Shutterbug video is 21.4g w/o lipo, 30.3g with. I converted it to bt 2.0 connectors as well.

@@jlarson42 How do you like your nanohawk? Too many reviews said the ducts are too soft and bend, causing props to break or get bent up. What's your experience like with it? With the 2 screw proprietary motors, is it even possible to switch everything out to a traditional style whoop frame?

Smaller VTX?

@@chesterlim15 read my comment again…..

@@chesterlim15 I think he meant canopy.

Way to go Bro! That's what I've been saying all along! We can MAKE IT BETTER! Use a dipole. Use a lighter canopy....you said VTX, but I think you meant canopy. VTX is the Naked Vista, and it's already as light as it can get. But, no manufacturer spends enough time getting rid of weight! Those first micro quads makers put out as DJI BNF's were a total joke - 70 - 90 grams! lol At least Flywoo is still trying! All the rest gave up! But, yes, we can make it lighter! My lightest to date is 38g, with a Nebula Pro Nano and a 75mm carbon fiber frame. I know of a whoop that is 35g. We can do it! We just have to keep trying. The guy who built that 35g whoop thinks he can turn the corner on 30 grams! 😎🤘

@@chesterlim15 “smaller vtx AND xf antenna……

How about TBS crossfire Nano RX? Which one do you recommended?

There are very few CCD sensor cameras made any more. I think Sony stopped making CCD sensors a while back. Basically all cameras now are CMOS so that's sort of what we have to live with. The non-WDR CMOS cameras have exceptionally low latency so that's not an issue.

@@JoshuaBardwell just so u know I don’t fly quads or use Beta flight, more of a Ardupilot guy flying wings, but I love your blogs😀

HDzero has the same or even lower latency than Analog, depending on how you count.

@@TheBellman Chris Rosser just tested all the systems a few days ago. HDZero to DJI is 3 - 6 ms! The most over hype spec in all of FPV! 99% of us can't feel 6ms difference. Remember....say "one one thousand" very fast. That's a second. Now imagine breaking that one second into 1000 parts. Then, try to tell me you can feel the difference between something with 6 parts (ms) more, that happens in ONE SINGLE SECOND! Do the math. Do the science. Use common sense & logic... Even Vanover said, when he flew both back to back on a race course, blazing through the course - He could barely feel the difference and could compensate for it. His track times were almost identical. Hundredths of a second apart!

@Sco0t Rot0R in real flight at non workbench ranges the latency difference jumps to closer to 16ms on average, and it's not consistent And you can do a latency test, when it's something you are actively controlling in real time (eg, throwing a mouse cursor around a screen) people tend to notice latency down to the order of 5ms. Even if we just assume that an FPV pilot has slightly above average visual reflexes, 200ms, when you start talking about numbers like 10ms you're getting small but significant numbers in terms of disadvantage. You're adding 5% to your reaction time. For me, with an 170ms reaction time, using DJI would be like a 9% disadvantage.

Change out the CP antenna for a dipole, as DJI works amazing with them. Also, try using a lighter canopy. You should be able to shave about 4 - 6g off the DJI version! Keep shaving weight! :)

Just for the record, I did turn around and face the flying area for the 2nd pack. But I wanted to see what would happen in a fair fight.

@@JoshuaBardwell ya I totally agree with your method of consistency just wanted to let others know the system needs more help

My bad So sorry for not seeing that you did an excellent job I should pay more attention won't happen again stay safe satay flying best regards

It wouldn't be impossible to fly them indoors if you're a good pilot.

can't agree more...

Yeah, but now try flying out further than in JB's yard! Oooops! HDZero can't fly any further, as we already saw the RAINBOW FULL SCREEN of death in his yard! lol With their TERRIBLE penetration, not being able to punch themselves out of a paper bag, if JB tried to fly any farther, even on his own property, that HDZero micro would really crap out! It's all in the technology. HDZero is fine if you are a very competitive racer that can feel the 3 - 6 ms of latency over DJI. But it simply doesn't have as advanced tech! Most of us can't feel that one bit! It's the #1 over hyped spec in all of FPV!! That's what Chris Rosser found to be the amount in his latest tests. I don't believe most of us can feel 6 parts out of 1000 parts that make up a single second (6ms)! Think about that and repeat that sentence very slowly. With 1200mw, and crystal clear video, I'd just buy the DJI, make some significant weight savings changes, give it a PID tune done just for the DJI version, and it'd be soooooo much more fun to fly when it weighs the same or less than the HDZero version! I know for a fact I could do it. I have a 75mm carbon fiber framed RIPPER that has a Naked Nebula Pro Nano camera in it and only weighs 38g. Very similar in weight to this analog Flywoo micro, but with 120fps, 810P HD image quality, 1200mw, and PENETRATION that is CraZy! Something HDZero, and their mediocre tech, can only dream of having! 🤔😱🤘

@@KOrnhOliO1 sorry, don't agree. Some of us are very sensitive about latency. I'm not fast racer, but I can feel and don't like it. It makes me more confident to get immediate video and RC response than having the clearest picture.

Good points Nick Burns dose a camera upgrade on his TKS 2" builds upgrade to the caddx baby ratel it adds 2.3 grams I believe not positive check his vid for camera comparison

The ag01 is better but it's more expensive. Just a question if you want to spend the money. It's not necessary. The v4 hall gimbal is also very good.

Mr Steel has a video best way to start FPV I would follow his steps it will save you money and time I started his method and then strayed off course by not getting a 5" shortly after learning acro but things are a little different now 3" Quads fly great and it just depends on what your goals are. I would give his vid a watch cheers.

I think that would be far too much weight.

@@JoshuaBardwell thanks. 🙏 Sub 250g 20min+ dji hd Cruising explorers... I'm thinking it's possible with a 2s or 3s builds on a light 3 to 4". Maybe there's no market tho as there's no one making one. 😥