Jaedong, the best Zerg of all time, vs Light, the current #1 Terran and top vs Zerg player on earth! Want to support ArtosisCasts? / artosis I'm probably LIVE right now, check me out: →Twitch: / artosis
Artosis, just want to say that I enjoy these casts you do so much. Your level of knowledge of the game is such a joy to listen to, and the way you present the games is a perfect mix of a professional caster, and a child-like amazement for the games. Something I look forward to day-to-day is a a video posted on this channel. Thanks so much!
The thing that was bothering me this game is the fact that Jaedong never got any melee upgrades and went very heavy into lings. They just wouldnt deal any damage. It actually cost him the fight for the central expansion and a whole bunch of other smaller fights that he could have dealt at least some damage to Light's army.
I have to disagree a bit, the lings were to be possible harassment and mainly to work with the swarms+plague+ hydras to just absorb damage but light was everywhere and he mixed in more firebats than usual. Jaedong would set up attacks but Light was ready twice. Clearly catching Jaedong offguard.
Thanks again for the games arty. It's really nice to have both you and tasteless putting out games for us to watch. We get to he spoiled during our downtime! Small thing, I prefer casts of these Korean pro ladder matches over some of the other casts you do. I do definitely recognize however, that it's good to see matches from non Korean players. I wish you could cast your own games bc I really enjoy your terran a lot. Thanks!
@@ivankuzin8388boxer also pro poker player, Nada is owner of small game company, grrrrr had recently gone well on air. However,now he is wanted for an NFT-related scam worth 8 billion won.
Great cast, Artosis. Suggestion: Switch to Terran's vision only during Muta harassment. It really drives home the feeling of being hit from the fog of war in many directions.
hey Artosis, i really enjoy your casts more than anyone else's. I was wondering since min 13 what is going on on the right side of the map and you only clicked it in min 16, it was a bit of acction there in the meantime and i was wondering in this time what the hell is going on there
Insanity. You can tell Light is doing this on auto. Just reading JD like a book. He made sure to punish him for everything at the right time and sneak expansions at every step. Sieging tanks to kill that nidus was also a good exploit. Shows Light will use everything he can get to his advantage. And good read by Artosis. Every little thing counts. The firebats also provided an extra point making sure those swarms weren’t as efficient. JD did good taking care of the SV count leaving Light short of energy. But maybe he over invested in hydras. Just great game.
I just watched this game after watching several earlier casts of TvZ by Mihu and other non-Korean Terrans - the difference is astounding. Even without going into micro, on a macro level - high expansion rate, SCVs actually following the army and repairing stuff, heavy use of firebats to deal with DS, reinforcements always on time...
@@ivankuzin8388 yea. Still exciting to watch but it’s just such a beauty to watch games at the Korean pro level. If you like TvZ you should watch Fantasy games also. Very different style. Specially during the last few OSL back in 2008 or so. Flash is always amazing to watch.
@@TRYCLOPS1 Oh, I like all match-ups :) Even ZvZ can be creative if players are both cautious and don't surrender easily :) (Not stack muta -> muta on muta battle -> whoever loses that GGs) I haven't watched any BW for like 15 years (I played a bit when Remaster came out, but life took precedence :), until RU-vid recommended Artosis to me a while ago. The scene right now is surprisingly healthy, amazing for 25 year old game really! I think if BW can manage to keep that level of interest for another ~5 years, Blizzard will try to capitalize and we might see new BW content.
@@ivankuzin8388 I just hate ZvZ. Like at times it’s just too intense and unpredictable, quick, barely any tech or innovative strategy at that level. I do remember a few games by Zero aka Queen where he used queens. Those were good games. TvT is my fav mirror match, specially when it’s Flash, Fantasy, Boxer, FBH, Light… my fav match is PvZ and I usually always root for Protoss lol. My fav player is Stork for some reason, then Bisu, Flash, Fantasy, Zero, Leta, FBH, Hyuk (if u know u know lol). Probably 10 years for me without watching a single game after SC2 came in. That killed something great going at that time. I married, got kids, divorced, and then a few months ago saw Artosis and Falcon pop up. Saw old legends still play and some new ones becoming legends as well. Can’t ask for more haha. Hope this keeps growing from here and back into the mainstream as it deserves. I never played any good at all. I literally sucked big time. But loved playing against friends or my brother in law who first showed me this game probably like 17 years ago. It was funny as hell playing against the Rainor AI of fastest maps lol. Need a new laptop just for the new BW! Maybe in a few months idk.
@@TRYCLOPS1 Oh, the times! I have played since 1998, got to SC straight from War2, but we didn't have internet until 2000, so for two years I was playing only LAN at a local club ) When I was about 15 I was quite good (amateur, of course), I practiced a lot and brain was still fast :D These days when I try to play I feel like I need to play on slow to beat anybody :D I had known a webmaster of Russian Blizzard fan webpage, he had a lot of rare Pro replays on his website + gave me some that he couldn't upload publicly, too :) Actually, my fav was watching Pro 2v2, that was the best BW had to offer - insane variety (YellOw + Reach killing it as a Z+P team!) and added dimension of teamwork - I have seen many better individual players lose to a better team... Hope it will become popular again!
Why say SCV cannot attack under swarm and siege mode doesn’t damage burrowed under swarm? Siege mode counters swarm and melee dmg works under swarm as well
I have noticed that, too! Maybe repairing is an APM-intensive activity, so only the best do it? This game there actually were quite many instances were Light was repairing - mostly tanks though. Maybe these days it is considered easier to spend SV's mana and just make a new one. Back in the day when I used to watch a lot of BW, I remember it was a usual practice for top Terrans (NaDa, BoXer etc) to bring a ton of SCVs and just constantly repair everything, especially vessels.
Pro's usually dont repair vassle. Vassles job is harassing and scouting. So they prefer vessles keep moving + zerg use scourge for late game anti air. It kill vessel 2shot anyway. Repair vessel is waste time and resources. Better repair tank for strong deffemsive lines.
@@kya6816 BTW, this is an evolution of a game that Artosis talks about often - this makes sense, and appears to be a current approach, but it wasn't always a case among progamers - I clearly remember very high-level games with a lot of efforts to repair vessels :)
Late mech was meta for quite a long time. Like 10~11 years. Zerg platers just found counter with early muta+mass queens. So mech is not viable top level match now
I find the picture in the bottom right critical to enjoying the game. If I was able to see the gameplay in that section, it'd be a total loss for the video. In addition, I very much enjoy that only one player gets his picture in the corner. Great idea all around. /s
I think that would just cause a big imbalance towards T against Z. Just imagine the first real push and how in the world would you hold that when you have like 3 or 4 lurkers and there’s 2 SV out lol.
There *is* balance in BW as is - the only problem is that this balance requires very high APM from Terrans, more so then from Zerg and especially Protoss. For average-good amateur playing on ladder, there really is no balance - but to fix the game for them will break the pro scene.
Sad, another Terran win, horrible, Terran is so imba powerful and marines need a nerf, medics need a nerf, siege tanks need a nerf, and floating buildings need a nerf!!! Why does Terran wins EVERY GAME
When does Jaedong stop being best zerg of all time? If he never wins a championship again in next 5-10 years but other zerg does lol he isnt anymore but old timers like Arty will still call him that. He calls stork 4th best player still LOL
