Bethany: Proud Family's Groomer 💄💄💄 

groomers can be ANYONE, even young, pretty women.

You should also talk about dijonay’s terrible parents who don’t parent their 11 kids instead they leave Dijonay to look after all her siblings 24/7 and both are the reason why dijonay sucks as a person

I am 15 and I will say that I feel so sad that many girls my age and even younger feel such a rush to grow up because now in this time we don’t really have a space for teens to be teens. Disney channel is dead basically. Tween stores like justice our closed and now we trade the glitter and dolls for makeup and certain clothes at the age of 12….i do wear crop tops as my mom allows it but my mom puts her limits and I am so happy she does.

Society paints preditors as ugly men but no, most of the time they are attractive in both genders or even close family members. Sad thing is I can see myself doing the same as Dijonay because I really trust my family members at that age and probably would be in that situation. You're right about being careful of who you keep around you.

what I like that when Bethany was trying to convince Penny's parents to allow Penny to go, Oscar was shaking his head. This shows that Oscar had heard this type of talk before and able to see through Bethany lies. Maybe like with Sugar Mama, Oscar can see the fakeness of CERTAIN people.

There needs to be a discussion of teenage girls grooming younger girls because said teenage girls are being groomed by adults Its a pipeline. And mind you, a child can be groomed no matter what they wear, i was wearing jeans and a band tee when it happened to me but the need for these young girls have to be in skimpy outfits is so disturbing

I work retail and seeing any young girls dressed in makeup of adult/teen clothes just upsets me.... because by allowing these things on our young girls, to be "Adult" it basically tells preditors that our kids are open to them. The fact that shield bras will have padding freaks me out... I just hate what most trends and adult influences do to our young girls in the world

I feel like one of the main reasons why Bethanny gets overlooked is honestly how awkwardly framed the episode was. Yes, don't grow up too fast, they were still 14 and they should be acting/dressing like they are 14; but there is a certain element of blaming the girls for being pushed into that situation because of the 'don't grow up too fast' angle. That angle is very tricky to go for without somehow making it the victims fault. It's likely because of it that people saw it was the girls fault they were pushed into that situation; like the whole "oh if you didn't go on that stage with these revealing clothes, bethanny wouldn't have creeped on you, this is your fault why this happened." Girls are little girls. They are not aware what they're doing/wearing is sexual and just think its cool the older girls are doing it. I feel like people, espeically like Bethanny, forget that they are just children. She should've known better.

I know the guys at the party aren't really set up to be sympathetic, but I can't imagine being one of the dudes at a party. Imagine being probably a relatively decent but horny teenage dude, chatting up a girl you think is close to your age but yo friend who brought them knows they're wayyy too young for you but told them to lie about their age. Bethany settin' up every dude at that party to catch a fucking case bro And on the growing up too fast - I think a lot of it is enabled by the parents. They want their kids to be able to self express, be happy, etc. but don't check them because sometimes kids do think they're more grown than they actually are. And like - I get and agree with the idea that clothes and makeup shouldn't be inherently sexual, but some clothes, makeup, piercings, etc. really do make you look older and that is kinda dangerous on both ends even if you don't factor in predators or people that intentionally seek out minors. Like my folks weren''t *incredibly* strict with what I was allowed to wear and do, but certain things was just not happening. If I wanted something they thought was inappropriate for my age, they straight up told me it wasn't happening and to wait till I get grown with my own money. Like at the party - imagine chatting to someone trying to catch their vibe and thinking that they're close to your age but in actuality they're way too young for you but you wouldn't be able to tell because there are no tween stores for girls between the ages of 13 - 16. They go from dressing and acting like they're 12 to dressing, looking and acting like they're 20 because there are no stores and spaces that cater to them specifically and all of these brands that historically (for lack of better words) have been for grown women are trying to get money from tweens and teens while not making any lines or things that are specifically meant to be appropriate for them. Like take something like Drunk Elephant for example. The brand has largely been marketed and targetted towards older and adult women due to the anti aging properties but now kids are obsessed with it. And while yeah *some* products may be fine for kids to use because they don't have a lot of active ingredients, Drunk Elephant doesn't have a line of product *specifically meant* for children and a lot of their products are not cheap either. And it's the same with so much else.

Thanks for bringing up the Sephora kids, but that's what I'm reminded of when I think of adultification.

I'd be curious to see a sequel episode to Hip Hop Helicopter where the girls are a bit older and realize what happened to them so they confront Bethany about it. It could be interesting.

Yall better hip hop out of my car 😂

I definitely think there’s a huge difference between allowing your kid to play with makeup and allowing your kid to feel pressured into dressing themselves up ,

There are creepy predators everywhere!

I started wearing makeup at 12, but it was the cheap dollar store makeup, and it was reserved for picture day, or a family wedding. My mom was always there to help me make it look natural and not to heavy.

NGL when I watched this episode as kid I always thought it was weird and creepy but couldn't exactly explain why. 20 years later as an adult and with all these cases of celebrities and influencers grooming minors, this episode is incredibly disturbing.

Beauty pageants for children DISGUST ME! I remember I watched one episode of toddlers in tiaras it made me SICK! 🤢

When I was younger, I only seen the episode as a way to teach kids not to rebel against their parents but watching this video and re-encountering the episode, I realize how it was also a way to teach kids that groomers can be anybody, stay alert on their surroundings and not be followers

Lazy and uncaring parents are the issues. Good parents wouldn't let their children dress or act maturely.

Great analysis, I didn’t even think about it that deep myself. Of course, being toxic runs in Dijonay’s family.

Ik this is serious, but why was the first thing I thought when I saw this "iTs ThE tOxIc GoSsIp TrAiN"

If only we could’ve had an epilogue where the parents got a hold of Bethany just to have a little “discussion” on what she did with their children.

I love this episode because it does a good job of showing us that groomers can be anyone (not just adult men) and that girls are pressured into looking/acting older. I also loved Trudy's chat with Penny about her outfit and being sexualized. It's ok if you want to feel sexy and dress a certain way, but it's also important to recognize that the people around will treat you differently and try to take advantage of you. I wish more teen girls would understand this concept, especially when older men use the phrase "you're mature for your age".

I knew this episode always gave me the creepy I'm so glad people are talking about this

6:01 After you showed the girls dancing, could you have shown Oscar's reaction and how his bowling ball rammed into some other customers. Also, could you include that scene where Oscar chased that teenage boy who said, "Dude, that's your daughter? She's HOT!"

If it wasn't for Tony, TOONNNNY OOH OH

I think it's important for parents to support their kids' efforts to express themselves, including clothing and makeup. However, it's also important to make sure children/teens are aware that there are people who will mistreat them and to be careful as they adventure into figuring out their identity,

Thank you for pointing this out, also I've been noticing street clothing has been marketed more towards children. Some Dan Schneider type tihs

I think you did a good job talking about how you disagree with the way younger girls dress without making them out to be at fault if they get abused. Scantily clad or not, young people still get abused by disgusting individuals who think it’s okay, no, WANT to exploit minors, and that’s not the fault of anyone but the perpetrators themselves and sometimes the guardians.

I’am glad you made this video because as I got older i saw this episode last night keep up the great work

8:48 Exactly. Predators can be anyone. The amount of child predators that aren't acknowledged as or considered to be groomers just because they don't fit the certain groomer "look" is seriously dangerous.

If I were dijonay I would have told my parents and hopefully the parents tell Bethany’s parents and then she gets punished idk how I think she should be in jail for child endangerment but idk if that’s how it works

I love that you’re wearing an Aaliyah t-shirt when discussing this subject. Though probably not intentional it gives insight to what she probably went through

Elvis is predo to dating a 14 year old who’s now his wife .

It means a lot to me that the other video addressed the sexualization of the kids and their feelings and this one talks about Bethany's problematic behavior. Both are important topics worthy of their own videos but it tugged at my heartstrings that it wasn't all just lumped together, the girls all got their own video, it just feels symbolic to me that their video came first and you didn't lump it all together. Thank you!

Its a shame these messages flew over my head when i first saw this episode. But it's terrifying that it's real and it can come from your own home, and from the people you're supposed to trust.

something I never see talked about is *why the parents enable or encourage the adultification of their teens* - because it benefits them, the parent. the quicker their kid is no longer a kid, the sooner they can cook and clean up after themselves, get a job, start their own life and move out. the more independent the kid is, the less the parent has to be a parent.

I'm just curious how Dijonay was able to stand up for herself and tell the dudes to "BACK OFF!" while Zoey had to be pretty much dragged out by her friends, so that she wouldn't make a terrible mistake that her parents would have pretty much got onto her about. I had that happen in my own life, I see myself in a lot of Dijonay and Zoey. The overweight loser that every male is "too good for" and the kid that was expected to be a free babysitter because the parents are always absent for some reason. Bethany is also different from me because what happened to me when I was eleven, the guy was a teen; he wasn't interested in my little sister, just me. So, he told her to wish on some magic rocks. He had me to himself and when I got home, my mom pretty much tore my eleven-year-old hiney up because I "put my sister at risk" and "I put myself at risk when I was supposed to be looking after my little sister." There's a lot of mental development between a neurotypical seventeen-year-old and an autistic eleven-year-old, who pretty much never got the sex talk.

Yoooo, I'm in the process of an animation series or a comic not sure yet that is touching on these subjects been working on it for 3 years now, and this episode was the catalyst of inspiration for me...its so sad how this is and still a thing these days and awareness need to be still established :( this episode really had me flipped when Iw watched it as an adult again and Bethany was a straight predator and didn't even care even threatened them. smh

Honestly i don't think there is anything wrong with young girls wearing crop tops and short shorts if its hot out. Let their skin breathe. Men are going to be creepy regardless of what they are wearing, and Little boys walk around with no shirt at all. We gotta stop having the attitude that if a girl is showing skin it is automatically sexual because sometimes we just want to dress skimpy because its 90 fucking degrees outside and we do infact sweat The belly button piercing on a child is weird though

My mom isn’t mad @ my 13 year old sister for being grown but shes mad that IM not “acting my age” I dress comfortably and be me for me… and for that she treats me very differently and even thought I was bi because I “dress like a boy” But its very sad that now we teens and younger have *NO PLACE* to still be kids :(

Great video and love the Aaliyah t-shirt.

BRUH ITS sad but true

As an older cousin to many young children, I could not imagine being this horrible to them, no matter what the situation was. That being said, I don't think younger girls (or younger people of any gender :) ) wearing makeup is always a problem. It entirely depends on how they and their guardians view it. I've liked makeup since I was very young, but I didn't have the idea that it was necessary for people to like me or for me to grow up, it was just a fun hobby, and my mom introduced me to it gradually because it's a fun hobby for her too. I'd say that healthy views about 'beauty' products and education about how they work is important for the young people who enjoy using them, and it should not always be associated with this toxic misconception of growing up and popularity

I absolutely loved that this breaks the notion that grooming can come from some lady agent, madame or pervert. It wasn't someone much older and it was a family member. This happens way too often and outside the entertainment industry. Anyone can take advantage of you and use you for their gain, even family.

Yes, Bethany does have Madam vibes in retrospect. Also, Ghislaine Maxwell and the women (higher up ones) of Nxivm too.

This video was so good! I remember the iconic profits and dance. Don't remember Bethany at all. Seems like she was working on her own, but women are used to put women and girls at ease, so it's definitely something to look out for

So glad my mom never let me and my sister act now that I know what happened

I haven’t watched the original series, but I love how they’re willing to talk about topics most shows even today won’t touch, and I LOVE your analysises on these episodes 💕💕💕

I remember watching this episode and was happy that Penny and her friends left. But was upset Zoey was dragged off because she was enjoying the guys attention. I didn't realize how dire the situation was. It's incredible the writers made this into an episode.

As someone who grew up within a toxic family, this resonates with me. There are so many shows and movies that make the argument that "family is everything", but that certainly doesn't jive for people who had to grow up within family's who only ever spread rumors, and lies about one another, instead of doing the things that might seem obvious to others, like being kind to your own family. Well, here's a dose of reality for people who may not know this, some family's are better off abandoning. Not all of them, but some of them. It all depends on if the family genuinely cares for you, or if they only care that your a certain way, and believe certain things, and behave a specific way, and... I think you get the point. Blood isn't thicker than water. Toxic people are toxic people, and you should avoid them no matter what, because they only ever want to drag you down with them. I was trapped with a family member who mentally and emotionally abused me (physically to if you consider being force fed pills physical abuse), and kept me under constant surveillance while I was in college. I was pressured and ridiculed as a measure to make sure I couldn't call for help, and was expected to act a specific way, think a certain way, and believe in certain things, and if I did so much as breathe the incorrect air, I would be met with verbal lashings akin to if a psychotic child skinned the neighbors pet dog. Like, I don't think I deserved any of that, but she would constantly remind me that I was the one that had a problem, and that she had to "fix me" because I was so "broken". Tell me that family matters, when THAT is my family. I'm not the only one who's been through this, but at the time, I certainly felt alone, and trapped, and afraid for my own life. I only managed to escape because when covid hit, the college kicked us out of our dorms, and my family in that state refused to let me stay with them because they were too afraid that I'd infect them. I had to move upstate for a time, so I stayed with my sister (one of the few sane members of my family), and when she realized what was going on, she did everything in her power to protect me from going back to that place. I had to abandon finishing college, but I wouldn't be hurt anymore, and that seemed the better trade off. To this day, I KNOW it was the right decision to stay, and flee my abuser when I had the chance. I got lucky, and I think about that a lot. If you are being hurt by family, just remember this. You have no obligation to love your biological family. You have the power to choose your family. You have that freedom. If you resent your family for hurting you, you are absolutely valid to think that, and don't let them trick you into thinking that it was YOUR fault that THEY hurt you. Some family's see a perfectly good person, and choose be horrible to them. I don't know why, but that doesn't really matter. We can't control how other people behave and act, but you can choose for yourself if you want to engage with it or not. Don't be afraid to be yourself, and surround yourself with people who love you for being who you are. Even if you feel alone right now, there are people out here who care about you, and want to see you get through the tough times. We're rooting for you, and remember that brighter days are ahead.

This is definitely an episode where they’re trying to expose the child star industry. Like Nickelodeon is in the spotlight but a bunch of those same managers also managed Disney stars. They have the point where the stars start getting older and need more roles, so their manager changes their image by getting them hooked on drugs and sex. They say “you have to do this or you won’t get work” but it’s the same manager threatening them that’s the reason they don’t get work.

I never noticed this, I don’t even know HOW 😭. It’s so obvious omg

omg you are absolutely right, Bethany was giving Madam of the Girls vibes

yayyy i love your videos super happy you are doing a follow up

omg yesss ty for makeing this vid i love yours vidss

My daughter is 9 . I never put her in girl shorts. I prefer her to wear boys shorts. She also wears dresses to her knee or longer. I wasn't protected as a kid. I'm very protective of my kids. They have their minds and opinions but dress modestly.

I think it’s interesting (and really sad) that Zoey who is considered the least desirable in the group seemed to be the most susceptible to the grooming and attention of the older guys

That's an EDP 445 episode at Disney.

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Yea she was a weirdo lol some cousin she is. It’s like just bc you gave up your goodies & morals, doesn’t mean that they should.

Bethany is like her cousin: fake and an opportunist. However, she's on a more sinister level and she needs to be checked because i have feeling she will look for more victims in the future to ecploit if someone doesnt stop her.

I never thought about the episode like that

Even as a child when I first saw this, I know something was sus..when this first aried. Before this term was even in vogue.

Good discussion

I'd like to see older relatives who are better mentors. Maybe Zoey has one?

I was one of these 12 year old girls with crop tops my mom didn’t really mind because she says clothes doesn’t define a person it’s the inside. I liked to dress like that because it felt like I was pretty

I understand what u mean abt people being obsessed with beauty pageant kids, but for jon benet ramseys case its most likely the family that did it.

My own cousin tried to groom me as a much younger child (6-7 years old). I was lucky that I had been taught about (and understood) grooming and how it wasn't okay. The thing is, you never see it until certain things happen. In my case, it was my older, male cousin. I told my parents and they talked to me about it, told me to always have the door open when we were visiting other kids. This had nothing to do with being strict, it was all to do with making sure my parents could see and hear what we were doing or talking about to avoid such a thing happening. We never visited my cousin again and I avoid talking to him whenever we do see him.

Wasnt there a Dijonae involved the Keneka Jenkins case¿ interesting content. You earned a sub.

Another fab shirt sir

When I am writing this, please keep in mind, I am not justifying Bethany’s actions, I am pointing out observations of how grooming is portrayed in the media. I noticed that when women groom, it comes into 2 main forms. A) some women have been groomed (mainly, by men) and are stuck in this cycle and have to be the ones that find the girls, sometimes boys to lure in and appease their groomer. B) they are the psychopaths, like Epstein’s wife who don’t care who they are hurting. These are the women who don’t care about other women. Also, there is the social attitude that is ingrained whether we experience it or not. Women, no matter how old they are are taught to appease men. We are supposed to fit to their beauty standards. Our attitudes have to succumb to what they want. We are always intertwined in these double standards. Sometimes it is so ingrained, we barely see we are participating in them. I wonder if Bethany does this because that is all she knows. Again, not justifying it, but either she was groomed herself or this is what she observed. Or she is just a psychopath groomer like Epstein’s wife and does not care who she hurts.

Did you get a new mic or get sick? You sound noticeably different here. Either way, really good video.

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It SCARES me how you can flat out observe a double standard in child grooming with female individuals, and people will go "I don't see it". The groomer could be as gorgeous as a runway model. The groomer could ACT as nice as Oprah on the outside but be as selfish Oprah on in the inside. The groomer can even gaslight or redirect your attention towards a distraction (I'm not grooming; YOU'RE grooming by accusing me of grooming/you accusing me of grooming means you're a groomer too). But the worst, is how people think groomers CAN'T BE OLDER TEENS THEMSELVES. If a teen at the age of 15-16 is manipulating children within the range of 9-14, that can STILL be a grooming dynamic when older (I was 9 when you were 16 vs I was 14 when you were 15).

Great video.

I knew this episode had a deeper meaning.

Groomers, and just all around bad influences. I have a friend who ended up moving to the town over and making a lot of more in-town friends, where I went to a more rural school. Makayla would hang out with these dudes who wanted to mess around, get high, talked like they were these thug adults be in mind she and I are both incredibly white, and I never met these guys. She would always say "yeah I'll introduce you," but it never happened. Later down the line when we're adults she's got all these stories of these bad relationships, she's moved from dude to dude so much but now she's got health issues she never addressed and she's in another state where most of the people who love her can't actually help her. She put her faith in people who did not have her interest in mind, and spent so mind time fishing for attention with drama, and crying wolf that even I struggled to know how to help her. It's real easy for someone to think they're just doing their own thing and not realize the consequences that'll come if those friends, relatives, or relationships aren't good ones.

Where do u get these shirts

I still dont Understand why girls grow up so fast i really hope tween culture Will be normalised again im só thankful that My mom was strict because of her i waited till im 18 to dress a bit more mature

This guy talks like a crazy person but says the most sane things I’ve ever heard

I hope they bring her back to mske her a better character nd redeem her horrible appearance.

Idk how the dudes would have reacted if they realized the girls were 17. But Bethany did tell them to lie. In the heart of the industry most people don't care about age and prefer them much younger. It's the disgusting reality.

Who would have thought it would ever be possible to find a character in the show even more unlikable than Dijonay?

Look how she was dress smh

I don’t like the implication that she’s a former victim turned victimizer, atleast not as a sympathetic angle. Even if that were the case; that makes it even worse. I know the saying “hurt-people hurt people” but if you know the hardship of being pimped out, why would you go and turn into a madame?

I saw a three year old girl in a bikini and I just thought oh my god

That's messed up...

i was walking in a store and saw a 5 year old wearing a high crop top and a miniskirt. shit's disgusting omg

alot of girls at my school wear crop tops and short shorts so it's normal for me

This is so much like Dance Moms it’s sickening. Abby Lee Miller’s tactics were alarmingly similar. 🤢

12:23 my 15 year old aunt went to the beach with her friends and mom and he mom let her wear a thong (shii had me and my family angry ngl)

RAINN if you are a victim of sexual abuse of any kind.

I heard there isnt a "third place" for tween what happen to preteen and tween stores? Either or girl should be able to wear clothes that suit their style but there is age appropriate clothing. The truth is there predators out there that will use any excuse in a society condoning rape culture.

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The freaking revealing clothes are another child groomer trick. The clothes are inherently sexual. Putting revealing clothes like that on a child/young teen is wrong, and it doesn’t make you a bad person to be uncomfortable with kids being dressed inappropriately They want to say “you’re a misogynist for telling women what to wear” or “you’re weird for being attracted to it” (not attracted to it, first on the list of them trying to project their own grossness on others) because you notice these clothes are not appropriate. The clothes aren’t appropriate on adult women, and aren’t worn frequently by women who aren’t hookers or strippers. That is how hookers and strippers dress and it is inherent to the clothing, not to the person (child) wearing them. These parents aren’t protecting their daughters’ chastity - I’d argue it’s the parents grooming their own kids by letting them dress that way. Kids should dress like kids. Community relationships are important, so parents can get together and be like “what you are doing isn’t right by your children and you have to fix it so our kids don’t see it and want to dress like prostitutes” This is not empowering. This is traumatizing. Girls aren’t the only ones. Girls get told to say no all the time but boys need to be told not to ask for sex unless they are ready to risk making a baby. That goes for gays too. It’s just not fair to them, to deny them the chance of a fulfilling relationship (the kind that comes from making a real connection through spending time and being friends with someone) and it’s unfair to let them be traumatized by having sex too early just because they’re gay.

I didn’t see any of them get their hair brushed by a barber. Where was the grooming?

i don't think bethany was a groomer. she was trying to exploit the hell out of them and use them to boost her own popularity but i don't think she was actually trying to groom them but rather just didn't care about their wellbeing.