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The Whitetail Experience
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we take a look at all things hunting arrows. What makes a good hunting arrow. What makes the best hunting arrow and what steps need to be taken in setting up a hunting arrow.

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@Limestonebowhunter
@Limestonebowhunter Месяц назад
Interesting information. I never really thought much about all that. Make arrows, paper tune, sight in and broadhead tune. No issue getting large fixed heads and field points hitting the same out to 40. My max is 20 - 25 yards. It's a higher percentage shot.
@robertmyers7542
@robertmyers7542 Год назад
Really great info! I already purchased my dozen for the year but next year I will give Exodus a try. Side note to his topic, if the spine value increases the thickness has to increase. It’s the only way the arrow can stiffen up, become more rigid. The best part of this was, someone called out how to actually spine index your/you/them/they arrows ONCE THEY ARE CUT TO FIT YOUR RIG! Nock tuning every single arrow and learning FOC for MY BOW, well let’s just say I can not only be laser accurate but when it hits, 💥! IMO, to many people are spined incorrectly, not nock tuned and the bow itself is out of tune. It takes some damn work to get it beat down. When the sun sets and all the people in the house are fast asleep, take your butt in the garage and get to work! I guarantee the results will blow your hat off! 😂
@a.b.k1983
@a.b.k1983 Год назад
Dude, I’d have never pegged Seth Rogan as a bow hunter/arrow guru.
@TheWVgoodguy22
@TheWVgoodguy22 Год назад
Pretty interesting concept and conversation indeed. Thanks 🙏 for sharing. I might have to test out a half dozen. 🏹🦌
@thewhitetailexperience6055
@thewhitetailexperience6055 Год назад
Good deal man
@ericnewman971
@ericnewman971 Год назад
can you show the data you are seeing to show the recovery rate and how you are seeing it at what distance? then can you take a full shaft and spine aline on the paps then cut it and show there is a difference?
@thewhitetailexperience6055
@thewhitetailexperience6055 Год назад
I would suggest go to the exodus outdoors RU-vid . There is a playlist for mmt arrows - can pick a few videos to get more data / video footage
@reddawng43x91
@reddawng43x91 Год назад
There’s no data it’s all bs bro
@Mr.bowbender
@Mr.bowbender Год назад
Interesting thought but it brings up lots of questions. If it takes 19yrds to stabilize then how can you get bullet holes while paper tuning at 10 feet? So does that mean all his data is from an untuned bow? If so why is the data being collected on arrow flight characteristics coming from an untuned bow?
@thewhitetailexperience6055
@thewhitetailexperience6055 Год назад
I wonder if the hole is flush cause it’s moving through paper so fast and the flex dosent kick out an odd tear
@Mr.bowbender
@Mr.bowbender Год назад
If an arrow is flexing the point and the nock will not be inline therefore I'm sure no speed would change the tear thru paper
@camthecameraman5096
@camthecameraman5096 Год назад
Paper tuning is taking a screenshot of the arrows flight at one moment in time. Your arrow is straight at 10 feet, but move the paper back and see what your tear is like. It will be different because the arrow is flexing
@ericwolbert3256
@ericwolbert3256 Год назад
@@camthecameraman5096 You can move the paper back as far as you want 20 ,30 50 even with a well tuned bow!you’re still going to get a tear
@chadsyl23
@chadsyl23 Год назад
Good conversation
@davidgbowntrailcamerasoutd4725
Sweet video
@zerkis69
@zerkis69 Год назад
I know where I'm getting my next set of arrows from this year.
@dustinwaldron2010
@dustinwaldron2010 Год назад
Look at Dan Infault , spends all his hours on scouting and bedding. When it comes to his bow and archery he’s the worst in the biz. Wounds more than not.
@thewhitetailexperience6055
@thewhitetailexperience6055 Год назад
There is Deff a balance to the game
@jfreak7589
@jfreak7589 Год назад
DW Is speaking the truth on that one
@l.i.archer5379
@l.i.archer5379 Год назад
I nock tune all my arrows across all 5 bows I own. Takes time, but it's worth it. All my arrows shoot bulletholes from all 5 bows.
@thewhitetailexperience6055
@thewhitetailexperience6055 Год назад
Man that’s solid - I bet u don’t like to change set ups once ur dialed in
@l.i.archer5379
@l.i.archer5379 Год назад
@@thewhitetailexperience6055 not really. I still shoot Easton Axis 400s from my two 11-year-old Bowtech Destroyer 350s, and it still shoots lights out. They're 385 grains, shoots 280 fps, and the perfect weight for whitetail to 40 yards. My Quest Thrive target/crossover bow shoots those same arrows. The Easton Axis arrows are my go-to and they are so easy to nock-tune. My current Solution SS is paired with Victory RIP XV Xtreme Velocity Elite V1 350 arrows at 350 grains. Haven't chronoed the Thrive or the Solution yet, but I estimate they're both shooting them their respective arrows at 270+ fps. My play-around bow is a Diamond Infinite Edge Pro that also shoots lights out. I have this one paired with Easton Axis 500 arrows. I'm a 26.5" short draw and all my bows are set at 65#. I also true up all my arrows so when I slap on fixed blade broadheads and they spin perfectly, I know that they'll hit with my field points. On my Victory arrows, I actually took out the stock SHOK outserts and installed Easton Axis HIT aluminum inserts with Ethics Archery ballistic aluminum collars with 125 grain points. I also changed the Solution SS from Comfort to Performance to compensate for the 16 grain increase in arrow weight. Hopefully, I won't have to change my sight tape. The SHOK outserts kepts pulling out of the shaft whether I used Gorilla glue or epoxy. I switched over to Bob Smith Industries glue with the HIT inserts and haven't had any issue at all. Arrows also shoot so much better with the slightly higher FOC. They were 334 grains before I switched them over to the HIT and E.A. collars. I love archery and I love tinkering.
@ericwolbert3256
@ericwolbert3256 Год назад
Yeah just like that arrow bump will make you shoot further with one pin! Don’t believe everything you hear folks! It’s not real difficult to get two holes in a deer! you don’t have to spend a ton of money on the latest and greatest all you have to do is know your equipment and be able to tune a bow decently with a good fixed blade reliable Broadhead! I’ve been blasting through the big deer with 166 shafts for years from 5 yards to 40 yards and now all sudden they’re not recovering right out of the bow fast enough!
@bloodlines9610
@bloodlines9610 Год назад
Couldn't agree more! They will say whatever they need to seel products. Been shooting micro DA, for years and they absolutely blow through deer.
@bqoutdoors2334
@bqoutdoors2334 Год назад
Sucks these guys at exodus don’t make 400 spine trad arrows.
@thewhitetailexperience6055
@thewhitetailexperience6055 Год назад
I hope they do in the furture as well
@YoureSoVane
@YoureSoVane Год назад
In general, this is just Firenock Kool Aid. There's many factors that aren't discussed or explained and this isn't the conversation we need to have as bow hunters. How does different target media affect the arrow on impact? When does the trade-off of high FOC/longer recovery flip in the other direction? Basically, the Firenock system is about trying to reduce the negative effect of arrow shaft's properties on flight and penetration. The high FOC gang is about negating the mass of the arrow shaft, so it's properties don't matter. Same goal, different ways to get there. The problem is that the Firenock Kool Aid includes broadheads that can't survive hard impacts, and vanes that can't steer regular broadheads. Dorge's designs require 100% commitment to the system or it all falls apart. If you're missing any one piece, it's basically irrelevant. The end result is that you pay a bunch of money to still get an arrow that doesn't pass through a hog or survive a bad shot on an elk. Conversely, the high FOC gang is full of their own idiots that send spears at deer and have a maximum range of 50 yards before fletching contact. This isn't optimized arrow design. This is a sales pitch from people on one side of the market. On a side note, the actual nocks are badass and if you're not using them you are missing out. They're expensive as shit but IMHO worth it.
@lawrencefranck9417
@lawrencefranck9417 Год назад
No one should shoot 50 yards at a deer. Average person should be 25 and in.
@YoureSoVane
@YoureSoVane Год назад
@@lawrencefranck9417 I wasn't making that point. Ethics of hunting at distance aside, because that's very skill dependent, my point was reduced range overall. If you're shooting a broadhead heavier than most ordinary arrows, you won't be able to reach out that far. Whether you can keep an arrow in the 10 ring at that distance isn't my lane. If you can keep a baseball sized group, with broadheads, at 60 yards then why would I care?
@codysmith8042
@codysmith8042 Год назад
@@lawrencefranck9417 You obviously don't hunt out West.
@bricedudley4612
@bricedudley4612 Год назад
That’s 20hrs a week which is half your work week time times 52 weeks a year. I highly doubt you’re putting that much time into arrows. That’s just a lot of waisted time. Perfect arrows can miss, and worst arrows still can kill. Just imagine what you could do with 1000 hours spread out across other things or your family.
@thewhitetailexperience6055
@thewhitetailexperience6055 Год назад
He literally builds arrows for a company why wouldn’t he put that kinda time in ?
@reddawng43x91
@reddawng43x91 Год назад
I get bullet holes at 5 yards with my 4mm bare shaft! My bareshafts hit with fletched in a foam target ! This is all bs
@beforetheecho
@beforetheecho Год назад
Jezzz, 19 yards if forever for an arrow to recover. HMMMM
@YoureSoVane
@YoureSoVane Год назад
They only talk about this number, but they never show the data or the footage. Like which arrow, which bow, what components, etc. There's an argument to be made, but Dorge hasn't published his data. Don't blindly trust it. It might be true, but we don't have the raw data, only the sales pitch for his components.
@michaelvstheworld3680
@michaelvstheworld3680 Год назад
You guy's should rename your company to Baby Grizzlystik's.
@miltonreeths522
@miltonreeths522 Год назад
marketing bs at its best. Victory 204 straight out of the box, shoot straight and are great deer killers.
@jfreak7589
@jfreak7589 Год назад
If your shooting a modern bow with 60lbs or more this is just a waste of time it's just a deer not an elephant!
@lawrencefranck9417
@lawrencefranck9417 Год назад
Get within 20 yards and all of this is moot.
@thewhitetailexperience6055
@thewhitetailexperience6055 Год назад
That’s a good call for sure - give me that 15 yard shot all day I like my chances if I can get to full draw
@cpaoutdoors9926
@cpaoutdoors9926 Год назад
Insignificant
@reddawng43x91
@reddawng43x91 Год назад
Bs! Strait bs! Marketing propaganda bs!
@bloodlines9610
@bloodlines9610 Год назад
This is all BS, this is all FIRENOCK product pushing. The same guy that said if you 4 Fletch you dont know how to shoot a bow. Its all product pushing crap.
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