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We had the same concerns with our patio roof because not enough slope for the concrete tile. What we did was to put metal sheets under the concrete tile roof in case it leaked as in your case. We have had several large rains and so far so good.
Not ideal at all. The builders should of known this. You could skin the builders to cover the leaks, like bear rugs on the roof. It would of saved on the cost of the tin. Sounded like the tin was under $450 NZD made up and delivered with most of the flashings, in record time not to bad at all. Aerated concrete is light and very good for sound proofing, we use it for fences, cladding and between floors. It would be a backwards way of doing it but I wonder if they have a super duper two pot coating that you can spray on the tiles. Of course nothings a prob, your a cash cow and it's charge up. They get fed, drinks, new radio. They'd move the desk 10 times, just might take longer if they get sick of it.
Hey mate, i am an Aussie carpenter we use that steel roofing a lot , blue scope is an Aussie brand. Next time leave out the tiles, get an insulation blanket before tin goes down and you won’t be bothered by heat or noise, it comes in rolls and is cheap and very effective.
@@Openeyesopenheart42 interesting I wonder if we have those insulation rolls in NZ, we have a moisture barrior/building paper under the tin. Never seen a insulation layer there. I spent nearly 10 years plumbing, sticking in fires etc. All sorts of builds and I havent spotted it. Hail gets very loud on tin 🤔 more R value is always good.
@@craigdawson7632 I have used it a few times now, might even be law in Victoria. Great product though, it’s basically paper foil with a 50-75mm fibre batt stuck on one side, about 1.8m wide and in rolls. Like a blanket for your roof.
As we already had the ceiling in and we are in storm season would be very difficult to remove the tiles add the metal but it is definitely a solution for those with the time 👍
Do not worry about colour difference as over time the metal roof will sort of fade some of that bright orange colour,and then from a short distance will look uniform again,great solution guys.Trevor of Christchurch
Builder from the UK, the proper way to do it, fit a waterproof membrane on the roof spares, then lates then the roof tiles, thats it no leaks, the over roof they have just fitted will be blown of by some strong winds, sorry to have to tell you this, good luck and keep up the good work, you are living the dream
I love the sound of rain on my ‘tin’ roof. I also have insulation up in the ceiling which lessens the sound in the house but the rain on the patio roof and eaves is a little noisy with no insulation.
'I didn't freak out' ... that was the best line.. 🤭.. what a great outcome Ryan and Damo .. love the colour as well.. 🤎 our hut we live in is just a tin roof so when it really pours down ya can't hear yourself think.. haha.. I love it.. must do after 22 years of living in here.. 🥰 looking forward to the finished project.. it's going to look great!.. much love to all the family😊💜🦋🥀☮️
I live in Scandinavia, and most people use concrete or clay tiles. But we always have to use two roofs, because concrete or clay tiles isnt a perfect roof. Concrete isnt waterproof, and clay tiles tend to warp with time. When it storms, or when ice and snow accumulates on the roof, water will penetrate the tiles where they overlap. Underneath the tiles, there is an asphalt membrane to catch water and condensation. This secondary asphalt roof limits the technical life of a roof, as the asphalt will start evaporating and crack after about 40-50 years here in the cold north. You also need a lot more overlap on the tiles when the roof is relatively flat, compared to a steep roof. 12-15 degrees roof pitch is the abosolute minimum on tiles in my climate. Love your housebuilding videos, and even if things like this happens, building and maintaining a hose is a never ending project that is very satisfying. Thank you for the entertainment.
I agree about the under roof. But instead of asphalt, I would use poor man's fibreglass. Simply cotton textiles, old bedsheets, t-shirts etc, soaked in woodglue. Then a couple of layers of woodglue added with paintbrush.
Metal roofs are great when done well done the material is good quality. No leaking problems and you put in good quality insulation so no noise issues. No more tiled houses for me. They have been mostly used in Australia for many years. Light colours the best as keeps the building cooler.
Steel roofs are proven to be the best for hot climates,they heat up quickly but also dissapates heat very quickly whereas concrete tiles retain heat for a very long period of time so they are a good choice for cold climates.
It’s funny because we checked with ChatGPT before and this was our answer The minimum angle for tiling a roof typically depends on the type of roofing 1. **Asphalt Shingles**: Generally, the minimum slope is 2:12 (9.5 degrees). However, for slopes between 2:12 and 4:12, double layers of underlayment are often required. 2. **Clay and Concrete Tiles**: These usually require a minimum slope of 2.5:12 (approximately 11 degrees) but can vary based on the specific product and manufacturer recommendations. 3. **Metal Roofing**: The minimum slope can be as low as 0.5:12 (around 2.4 degrees) for standing seam metal roofs, though 3:12 (about 14 degrees) is more typical for other metal roofing styles. 4. **Wood Shakes and Shingles**: These generally require a minimum slope of 3:12 (14 degrees). 5. **Slate**: A minimum slope of 4:12 (about 18.5 degrees) is typically recommended for slate tiles. .
Blue scope very good material amd popular in Aus. As long as those batons under the steel are screwed to rafters and not just the tiles, or strong wind can still take off the roof (cyclone strength) we have trucks come to site for commercial builds very long sheets and rolls out of the truck. 5 minutes per sheet. $6500 AUD for that build is bloody awesome. Here that would be $80,000 - $100,000 Aud. The steel roof will last 50 years easily
It's a shame that the brand new tile roof wasn't effective but your solution was cheap enough. Your attitudes are incredible. The new house is still gorgeous.
555... Yes, too flat for tiles. Good solution and yes it will be cooler. In fact, in some energy efficient houses they use dark color as the outside roof and light under. The darker sheet will heat up, creating airflow that will cool the inside 👍🥳
we used insulated metal sheets on our house in Banluang. 2 benifits, noise and insulation. a little bit more expensive than normal metal but well worth it.
I suppose the only saving grace of this is you found out before you had finished the inside and then found out the roof was leaking so in some respects it's a blessing in disguise. What a lady Damo is she is a Superwoman and a star she has no end of talents you make a great couple together working problems out . The roof does look really amazing, how amazing are those builders so impressive, not sure things would be solved so quickly here in Wales or the UK, it would be we can come a week next Thursday and never turn up . Glad for that it's all been solved very stressful for you both . Always interesting and informative and entertaining
TIT. This is Thailand. We must adapt.😂It’s hard sometimes.. but that’s it! By the way if the rain doesn’t get trough, it’s a good job! Be positive Ryan!🔝👏🦾😊💚🇹🇭
We built our house with tiles for the roof and had leakage along the ridge, elsewhere was fine it was metal frame with concrete board cover then insulation and the tiles, the ridge was solved by a wider super sticky tar covered wide tape. We used the same metal sections for a walkway and sala and yes it is noisy when raining Looking good and as usual a good informative vlog. My biggest mistake was having handmade teak doors with a frosted glass strip insert, all the doors warped and ordinary glass used that had no safety protection. I would have been better off going to global house
Glad you got the roof issue sorted, could have been much worse if you had a big rain storm. I would have thought the pitch of the roof would have been sufficient for water run off an obviously your builder must have thought so too. Anyway it's sorted now at a relatively small expense. Will be good too see it all completed. Keep up the good work guys
One more added advantage is that now you have air flowing between the roofs. Without the Sun shining directly on the lower roof it will be cooler inside.
Oh dear! I must say I was surprised the tiles were put on straight away. Here they do insulation & everything before & tiles last of all.Understand different climate.Main thing is you got it solved & not too expensive. Thats team work. Have a great week. 💞💞💞💞
It's amazing how damo has changed and have become smart and confident with filming. I remember initially how camera shy she was and when she rarely says something in the camera we would barely hear her. Look at her now, she has become a vlogger, Ryan effect i guess
Hi Ryan and Damo, you are doing a great jo there and I can imagine ow you felt hen you saw the water leaking in! Well done Damo for finding what looks like an amazing solution and so cheap too. Can't wait to see the finished article. That wood looks wonderful and I am sure that the workers will make a beautiful desk and whatever else you want, out of it. God bless the whole family. 😀❤🙏
In England, tiled rooves have a tarpaulin layer laid over the rafters before the tiles are added to catch any ingress of water. Maybe you should have covered the tiles with a plastic sheet temporarily then removed all the tiles and put in a liner before replacing.
In Thailand, the use of tarpaulins (taupolin) under roof tiles is less common due to several reasons related to climate and building practices 1. **Climate Considerations**: Thailand's hot and humid climate can lead to rapid deterioration of tarpaulins. The intense sun and heavy rains can cause tarpaulins to degrade quickly, making them less durable as an underlayer for roofing. 2. **Traditional Building Practices**: Traditional Thai building techniques often involve the use of materials like bamboo, wood, and thatch, which naturally provide good ventilation and insulation. Modern buildings might use more durable and permanent materials like concrete, metal sheets, or clay tiles that don’t require tarpaulins underneath. 3. **Material Availability**: In Thailand, materials like concrete tiles, metal sheets, and clay tiles are readily available and preferred for roofing. These materials are more durable and provide better protection against the elements compared to tarpaulins. 4. **Construction Techniques**: Modern construction in Thailand often includes the use of concrete roofs or well-sealed roofing tiles that do not necessitate an additional waterproof layer like a tarpaulin. 5. **Ventilation Needs**: Proper ventilation is crucial in hot climates to prevent heat buildup under the roof. Using tarpaulins might obstruct natural airflow, leading to higher indoor temperatures. 6. **Economic Factors**: While tarpaulins might be cheaper initially, their shorter lifespan and the need for frequent replacement can make them less economical in the long run. Overall, the preference for more durable, traditional, and locally suitable materials and methods likely contributes to the lesser use of tarpaulins under roof tiles in Thailand. 👍👍
Ex contractor here, I've had this problem befor as they should have seen this problem befor. the best fix is removing all the tiles. When they make the steel metal and shape it they should have asked if you wanted insulation if you order with insulation it's quite, they stick it on when rolling it into shape. They did a strange thing on your eves also. I used my village people for my build with no luck and to many problems so wife found all the subcontractors on fb market place and I set the finish.
Just as a general principle, the flatter the roof the more problems. You’ve already experienced one of the problems, the other is, as the builder pointed out, a roof with a low pitch can simply take flight in strong wind as it basically becomes an aeroplane wing.
ฉันเคยต่อเติมบ้านแบบคุณเลยค่ะ กระเบื้องมุงหลังคาแต่น้ำรั่ว มีคนแนะนำให้ลองเมทัลชีทมาครอบอีกรอบ หมดปัญหาน้ำรั่วซึมเลยแต่ฝนตกเสียงจะดังไปหน่อย I've renovated a house like yours. Roof tiles but water leaks It is recommended to try metal sheet to cover again. The problem of water leaks is gone, but when it rains the sound will be loud again.
Ryan, while YOU might not have been freaking out (good for you!), the REST of US certainly were! hahaha You guys are so fortunate that the solution was so fast and so efficient. Excellent. (whew, dodged a bullet!)
We had similar issue with our build in Ratchaburi. Surprised you didn't just pull the tiles up and put a rain membrane on then throw the tiles back on. Either way glad you're happy 👍
Should have taken the tile off before installing the metal. The added mass of the tile will gain heat during the day then radiate it into the attic at night making the living space hotter. The added metal is a barrier to the heat dissipating outside. A well insulated attic absorbs most of the noise from a metal roof.
Main problems with taking the tile off 1. It’s rainy season and the under ceiling is complete so you risk massive damage to it 2. You have to put a new frame over the metal to redo the tiles so it is expensive on the steel if you want the sound barrier 3. Time consuming 4. We have insulation under it all so this is not much of a problem It’s not the perfect solution but the best for us
@@lifeinruralthailand hope your insulation and attic side of the gypsum are not wet. It will get moldy. I think your insulation is covered in plastic unlike the bare spun fiberglass we have in the US. So hopefully you just had a little water on the top side on the plastic. Otherwise it would be a good idea to go up in the attic and pull it back so it can dry out. A pain in the butt for sure but better than soaked moldy insulation and drywall. Good luck with your project
I am not surprised that your wife fixed the problem, Thai women are fantastically resourceful , at least the ones I know. I am a civil engineer and my wife built quite a few things without needing my help,, very impressive. 😊
Trust me. Don’t go cheap on the MAIN PROTECTION of a home. Leads to bigger problems. Do the roof structurally right. And be sure it over hangs well ‘past’ the homes walls
I would have thought that your builder would have known that the rain might of got in under the tiles on such a low pitch roof. I don’t know about tropical countries but in the uk if the roof is a similar pitch to yours and using the same tiles you just have to reduce the lap on the tiles to stop the water penetrating underneath them. At least you’ll got it sorted now 👍
We had a leak in the kitchen for years made a massive hole and we lived with it only last month got someone in to have a look fixed it and repaired and patched up the ceiling and looks great I was putting it off for years as leaks are a nightmare to pinpoint.
Roof looks great. Another thing you could consider down the road is to paint the roof with white roof (Waterproof Elastomeric Sealant) coating. White or reflective paint cuts HVAC costs by about 20%. But then you'd have a white roof not a nice orange roof.
I also ended up with 2 roofs. My first roof was cedar shake wood shingles but leaks all over. I then recovered the roof it like you have and works well, but a bit pricey.
colorbond is great.. lots of homes all over australia use this stuff.. running some gutters along the roof edge to catch that water for storage would be a good move. even if its just fo the gardens.. but rainwater is the best water for everything.
Theres a special tape type membrane that you can stick to the underside of the metle roof that cuts out the sound. People use it on camper van builds and works a treat👍
Replace the roof immediately. With tin or maybe even marine ply which you could possibly put the tiles back onto. You could probably replace it piecewise too.. Actually you can use a bituminous roof sealant over regular plywood instead. Marine ply be too expensive. Yep tiles over bitumenized plywood is one solution.
G'day guys, I have a tin roof with good insulation and can hardly hear heavy rain. But l guess it's trial and error. luckily labour is cheap in Thailand so it's an easy fix👍
That's an excellent solution to your problem. I have tiles on our Udon house, but on the new build out on the farm I picked brick red (not orange) sheet roofing with about 1 1/2 inch foam bonded to it. Above the ceiling I have 4 inch rolled insulation. At least so far, I haven't noticed all that much noise. I was a little concerned since the parents have uninsulated metal sheet roofing, and that stuff is like a drum in the rain. The bonded insulation does seem to help a lot in our case.
In Latin America they put metal sheets and then put the tile on top for the noise and to look nice. That's what they do in the more upscale areas where they have money for tiles.
Greetings from Samoeng Thailand. Glad it worked out for you. Should be very quiet. I ordered tile and after starting to install them, the builders tell me at least 60% are defective. Tile company refuses to replace the defective ones, meanwhile the rain is pouring in. The purlins are 10 cm, so I cannot just go with new tiles from another company without a lot of work. I ended up putting down 1/2 inch number one plywood and installing a composition roof. It’s beautiful but not the orange roof I wanted. After a lot of legal work the court has ordered the tile company to refund all money.
Interesting, informative episode. Happy solution. I'll bet you "Freaked Out" a little bit, I would as well! Good, fast, cheap solution Damo came up with, and got delivered and installed right away. Yes sheet metal roofs are very noisy when it rains, but you have the sound barrier and insulation already there as you say. Ryan is happy about his drone shots! Always the cinematographer 555 Good to have construction workers with a "can do" attitude. Thanks guys, Peace and Love Y'all
I had the same problem on my kitchen roof because the pitch on the roof wasn't steep enough so I had to take the roof off and replace it with a metal sheet one it was a shame but after I replaced the roof I haven't really had any problems with it
I do not know if you can get Zip System sheathing in Thailand, but that is primo, especially if you put a quality wrap on top of it. Remember; the lower the pitch, the more overlap you need on the under wrap. You can not over kill a sealing system. I bet you never get fooled again. Good luck.
The builders seem great, good job done and that wood would cost a fortune to buy in the UK you may not have found it it you did not have a problem with the roof so all good. 😎👍
Great will be to have a metal roof under tiles. Tiles on the top will be most evident sound barrier. But I am glad you guys found solution for the problem.
