actually if I understand correctly, new laws and regulations have made the mother somewhat of a sole executor of children's estate, so to speak. the father needs consent from the mother to have a paternity test. they don't want the guy to be calm and sane when signing those papers, cause us guys tend to read the fine print, and would realize the alimony and child support contracts are actually between fathers and the state.
once read that around 30% of all DNA tests on new born babies from MARRIED mothers are not from their husband. and based on that number its estimated that roughly 20% of married men are taking care of kids that are not theirs but they think they are.
You can get a dna test for a few bucks meanwhile. Mandatory and basic knowledge for EVERY father. No matter how in love. Do a test as if it's a chore like wipeing your ass.
I'm not sure what the hell you mean --- if you can know unequivocally whether the child you're taking home is actually 'your' child as a father (because the reality is only mommy knows for absolute sure), then how can that be somehow wrong - like wiping your ass - what the fuck are you talking about?!! Listen, just because you've got doubts about your kids parentage buddy doesn't mean you get to talk your shit and pretend like it's reasonable. Trust is for assholes like you - before a man is stuck paying a third of his income in child support, why the fuck would they NOT administer a paternity test just as a matter of course. You stupid fuck
Mitch McGuishlin We are in agreance. A misunderstanding. You do a dna test. I think many fathers do not do a dna test. Because they love their wife, don't think she is cheating or even because they think it is not appropriate. There is nothing to think about. You have a child. You do a dna test.
This is a horrific story indeed. I wonder if the court ruled in his favor. If I was the judge, I sure would. It's all about accountability, people. Whether you are a man, woman, black, white and all the other labels you use to differentiate yourself from others. OWN UP to the s**t you do in this life. Have some freaking integrity.
My buddy's ex pulled that shit on another guy. They split up, she was apparently pregnant unbeknownst to my buddy, and she immediately goes and hooks up with another guy, enters a relationship, "I'm pregnant!" and the guy marries her. She tells my buddy, who lives in another part of the country at this point, that's it's not his and to leave her alone. So he takes her word for it and he does. Then the kid grows up and by age 5 or 6 the kid looks EXACTLY like my buddy. It looks like the kid took none of his mother's DNA (who is a different race, by the way). He looks so much like my friend that when he gets to high school, I could go hang out with him and think that I'm back in high school hanging with my buddy. Eventually, her husband notices that his son looks exactly like her ex and he's like, "You fucking lying bitch," and dumps her. But he's still on the hook for child support because he signed the birth certificate and raised him thinking it was his son. The guy still treats the kid like his own, which is commendable. Meanwhile, my buddy is states away and doesn't have to pay a goddamn thing. He lived for years believing it wasn't his kid, got married, and started a family with his wife. This whore fucked over 3 male's lives, not including any of their current/future wives and kids.
Who knew you weren't the father? Try: ALL of her friends, her co-workers, her mom, your mom (surprise!), the guy she was screwing and just about everybody else. That is why I support DNA testing on all births (live/stillborn) to determine paternity. If your woman doesn't want that or objects to even the issue being brought up then you dump her and move on down the highway.
That's ridiculous. You support mandatory tests on every baby? Lol dude. That's a fuckin personal issue. If your woman is dishonest, that's y'all's problem to deal with.
This guy should claim all his child support money back from the mother or father of the child with interest, as well as compensation for his effort and time he put into raising the child
something similar happened to my bf friend. years ago, he was dating this chick, the chick wasn't right for him. my bf said he sensed she was with him because his family is rich and he was working in a job that will set him up, well, in the future. anyway he decided to end it with her and they banged for the last time at the same day. couple of months later she contacted him saying she is pregnant with his child. he asked if she was sure and she said the baby is X weeks old and she hasn't been with anyone else. so then he was like shit i have to marry this gal and be a father. now i dunno if he already proposed to her or not at this point but his aunt said she wanted the baby tested (dna) after hearing the news (she is rich and always skeptical when it comes to money). the pregnant girl refused at the start but was then convinced to taking it. well it turns out the baby was not his, the age of the baby inside of her was right, it was conceived the day the friend banged her and he confessed to doing it raw. but after they had sex she went out and found a guy to have sex with and creamed inside her so she can fall pregnant. this is why I always told my brothers to be careful all the time.
if you sign birth certificate gotta pay support for 18+ years even if a paternity test later shows other wise. men get no custody with out the woman signing off on a custody agreement. but u know women dont have equal rites...they have way more!
This is a horrific story. We both need to really examine how we treat each other in our relationships because this is the type of story that ends with somebody getting killed behind their actions.
Hoss, that ain't shit. There's a man in Detroit fighting the courts that wasn't to throw him in jail for not paying child support for a kid that's not his. He never had sex with the woman and got a DNA test that proved he wasn't the father. The reason the court came after him is simply because she put his name on the birth certificate knowing he wasn't the father, get this, BECAUSE THE REAL FATHER WAS A PIECE OF SHIT AND SHE KNEW IT. Not only that but SHE ADMITTED TO THE MAGISTRATE THAT SHE LED ON THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE! And the court IS STILL COMING AFTER HIM! How's that's grab ya?
This made me think of the Buddhist story..this man is told he is the father to the baby boy eve though he didn't sleep with her and the whole village is outraged because she is married, he says is that so.she leaves the baby with him and disappears so he raises the baby properly and with love and care as his own.she appears years later and says mistake he's not yours and I want him back.he says is that so and hands the baby back.the beautiful thing about this story is that you take the right virtuous and correct action detached from emotion.whenever I hear about men that do that and all us men that get a raw deal and keep on silently going out and trying to lead by example it's such a powerful spiritual act that truly humbles because to keep your calm and do what is right even when what's around you is wrong takes maturity and wisdom
Maybe one of the reasons why guys are not organized is because guys are willing to help throw another guy under the bus to get laid, just like that guy in that story.
+J. deleos the #1 reason its not all out in the open is because its fucking humiliating! why would you go out and tell everyone? so they can have a turn to lol
that's so true. girls never take their fat friends to a party as a phantom decoy, knowing that their vagina is gonna be drier than the sahara dessert while the pretty one rides the nearest shuttle cock. oh wait!
You are correct. In most states once you begin paying child support, even if they forcibly garnish it from your wages, the law sees that as you accepting parental responsibility for that child regardless of paternity. There is a very small window after birth that paternity tests actually mean anything legally. Once you have began providing for the kid through child support or raising it as yours only the bio father suing you for custody can stop you from being legally accountable for that child.
Right there with ya Bill.....difference is....you get paid for your stories....but I still enjoy making my friends laugh....but it can be dark, not for everyone...but it's real shit!!!!
I was a child support enforcement supervisor in Virginia for two years. If your wife has a child, the man has presumed paternity. Sucks for guys who have been separated from their wives, haven’t seen them for years, and have an order issued against them. They can petition the court for a dna test, which they pay for if it comes back that they are the father.
The federal government matches around 60% of child support payments to the state, so it’s in the state’s interest to collect as much child support as possible.
I have a friend in a similar situation albeit his child is young and I told him before anything else he needs to get a DNA test because if you don’t have to get stuck raising some other shitbag’s kid and dealing with a crazy bitch then don’t. It’s financially a setback but really not a big one compared to 18+ years raising a kid that ain’t yours
Kevin actually helped her when she was wasted on drugs! He could have taken both kids when she was fucking gone and gotten a TON more money! Plus he actually helped her get clean
probably has been that way from the start, while men were busy building and carrying exploring fighting etc etc, women have spent all those centuries back home in caves, and since the day is long, and there was nothing but nature and other women around they found themselves in need of activity. and women have such a multidimensional sexuality and the way their menstruation/reproductive cycles naturally sync via pheromones, and the fact that women who aren't even bi can kiss another woman comfortably, and while being turned on necessarily, they do enjoy sharing this affection with their friend, as any two close friends would enjoy a hug. I fact I have started to believe that in general, that women are still wired this way and have only been convinced through social stigma that they don't want the man to be "unfaithful" by having eyes for another woman . truth is whether they know it or have it repressed, the more women he has piling on him, the more they want their turn. I don't even think most women are heartbroken when cheated on, because the idea of their guy with other women makes her see him as higher and higher value. so the whole idea in western culture that women want a man to be faithful, its complete bullshit. they don't seem to mind as long as they aren't left out.
Yep. The moral to this story is that if you are a guy the last thing you should do is what you think is "right". You may think it is the "right" thing to do to pay child support but it isn't. You can official not claim the girl and still give the mom money if you would like.
That is possible but you still shouldn't official claim a child that isn't yours. A friend of mine found out that his youngest child is not his. He was thinking of adopting him under the rational that he loves the kid and considers him his own. Doesn't matter. You don't need to legal claim the kid to consider him your own. If she had a child with another man behind your back then she will have no problem taking you to the cleaners for doing "the right thing".
oh, you're right. no legal or even ethical obligation, i don't think. he's just a decent guy who loved the little girl, is all. the girl did nothing wrong, it was her mother.
What about when the state sides with the mother on custody battle when the father wants the kid has a stable life with an income and the mother is a deadbeat that won't fucking work?
@gheberf558 So damn true! I tell every guy I know that's about to have a kid to get a paternity test. Sure your woman might get offended, but this shit happens far more often than people realize. If a woman can expect enough trust on the mans part to marry her, than she shouldn't have a problem with you wanting to make sure you're not about to make a life long commitment to raising a child that's not yours!
Wanna turn things around ? - don't get married and - I you choose to have kids, have a paternity test at birth before putting your name on a birth certificate
