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Bill Simmons: Hawks trading Luka Doncic for Trae Young was a mistake | Jalen & Jacoby | ESPN 

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Jalen Rose, David Jacoby and Bill Simmons weigh in on Dallas Mavericks No. 3 overall draft Luka Doncic’s NBA preseason debut. Bill Simmons explains why the Atlanta Hawks made a mistake by trading the point guard to the Dallas Mavericks for Trae Young.
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@jordan12118
@jordan12118 5 лет назад
Never thought Bill Simmons would be on ESPN again
@Razorslash312
@Razorslash312 5 лет назад
Jordan Davis listen to his podcasts, everyone he had beef with is gone
@jaykob213
@jaykob213 5 лет назад
Yeah wot happened cuh
@bikerboy72
@bikerboy72 5 лет назад
Zoop D'Poop roasted skips lifestyle
@JC-ev2ns
@JC-ev2ns 5 лет назад
Salvadore Andretti hahahah...... YES
@elchucofried5683
@elchucofried5683 5 лет назад
@@Razorslash312 who did he have beef with?? And I thought he took a job at HBO or showtime
@mattturner2381
@mattturner2381 4 года назад
this aged well
@willhooke
@willhooke 4 года назад
I see your comment just after Luka and the Mavs beat Lebron and the Lakers. :D Trae is very good, and that draft pick could be good. But Luka Doncic is amazing! And with KP, they might be elite for years....
@atlproductions216
@atlproductions216 4 года назад
William Hooke Trae young better
@mmldr9306
@mmldr9306 4 года назад
@@atlproductions216 trae young is better than I tought but he is just a stat sheet stuffer he is bot playong winning basketball
@frankom2862
@frankom2862 3 года назад
These guys talked tanks of bs of Doncic... and then everybody knew he gonna be great...
@rolandostaelena
@rolandostaelena 3 года назад
@@atlproductions216 oh man, Trae is great, but he is NOT better than Luka.
@cityboychad
@cityboychad 5 лет назад
Its the Pod Father, Bill Simmons!
@joewhittle801
@joewhittle801 5 лет назад
Cue the 🎻 🎻🎻 playing The Godfather music
@derek23braga89
@derek23braga89 5 лет назад
No that would be a Joe Rogan.
@irandleIV
@irandleIV 5 лет назад
Anybody that knows basketball knows that the hawks trading Doncic for trae young is why they’ve always sucked as a franchise. They make dumb personnel decisions.
@nbaslick6184
@nbaslick6184 5 лет назад
TheIVth it’s for the fans to come see trae because he got a buzz they don’t care bout winning 😂😂
@shanecaudill4825
@shanecaudill4825 5 лет назад
Mike Jones i hope you’re joking my dude u sound stupid af rn lol
@nbaslick6184
@nbaslick6184 5 лет назад
Shane Caudill who ?
@joshliggins2260
@joshliggins2260 5 лет назад
yup oonly the kings are more dumb than them.but i also think the hawks REALLY,REALLY,REALLY want rj or zion.
@chrisdeleon2615
@chrisdeleon2615 5 лет назад
Mike Jones Goran Dragic last year
@N2CatCrew
@N2CatCrew 5 лет назад
Luka is gonna be best player in draft
@golfinguru11
@golfinguru11 3 года назад
gg
@russh3550
@russh3550 3 года назад
Haha nope
@mickfunny4185
@mickfunny4185 3 года назад
@N2 Cat Crew u right homie
@gordansimunic1289
@gordansimunic1289 3 года назад
@@russh3550 ?
@prestonspencer6826
@prestonspencer6826 2 года назад
Atleast Trae Young has made the conference finals
@benjihuynh2970
@benjihuynh2970 5 лет назад
Damn I totally forgot Mavs got little Giannis. Hope he does well
@leviuzumaki3903
@leviuzumaki3903 5 лет назад
dosto karambas dude he's not talking about luka he's actually talking about giannis little brother he was the dude luka was doing the handshake with that had antetokoumpo on the back of his jersey number 37
@ankey7384
@ankey7384 5 лет назад
Kostas is very raw talent-wise, if the Mavs can develop him well then sky's the limit
@chriss.9398
@chriss.9398 5 лет назад
Justin Reyes, well they developed Powell into a much better player so I have faith. The guy has all the raw skills to be a baller. Its just putting all the pieces together. I agree sky's the limit with that kid.
@MrHandpipeman1
@MrHandpipeman1 5 лет назад
@@ankey7384 BINGO, Bro. Something must be there because he is still on the roster too.
@alexmagic8934
@alexmagic8934 5 лет назад
yes Kostas Antetokounmpo
@jamarjay3407
@jamarjay3407 5 лет назад
Good to see Bill Simmons back on a show he helped build
@johntoner6684
@johntoner6684 3 года назад
Bill Simmons take aged well
@Slimkidd730
@Slimkidd730 3 года назад
No, it hasn't.
@Shawnpimpin601
@Shawnpimpin601 3 года назад
L
@garymontgomery3606
@garymontgomery3606 4 года назад
This has aged amazingly well
@sirwilliamclickclack7492
@sirwilliamclickclack7492 2 года назад
Has it though?!?
@Shawnpimpin601
@Shawnpimpin601 2 года назад
How?
@__________..
@__________.. 2 года назад
BRUH DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT SARCASM IS?
@EduSanjuan777
@EduSanjuan777 22 дня назад
@@__________.. Where are the hawks now? Where are the Mavs? Dont get me wrong I like trae.He is a great scorer and passer even though he is kind of small and lanky and that is a liability on defense. But he is no Luka. By a wiiiide margin.
@OGMillyMillz_
@OGMillyMillz_ 5 лет назад
My Mavs making moves!!!
@xkid.darkskin5178
@xkid.darkskin5178 5 лет назад
OGMillyMillz Vs Anybody still won’t make the playoffs 😂
@bill11ringsrussell66
@bill11ringsrussell66 5 лет назад
Mike Jones haha bet u didn’t watch any of his games salty hawks fan
@MAVSMANE
@MAVSMANE 5 лет назад
@@xkid.darkskin5178 stfu
@MAVSMANE
@MAVSMANE 5 лет назад
@@mikejones9906 yo mama trash
@xkid.darkskin5178
@xkid.darkskin5178 5 лет назад
reundre09 butthurt? 😂
@ethanrhine5944
@ethanrhine5944 5 лет назад
I’m a Hawks fan and I was pissed we traded down for Trae Young. If we wanted him so badly I’m sure we could’ve traded something else to get Trae Young
@Oxilus_B
@Oxilus_B 2 года назад
Who is Luka playing in the WCF? I'm just curious.
@abdullahkaanturker4656
@abdullahkaanturker4656 2 года назад
Luka still better player.
@killacam909
@killacam909 2 года назад
give it up, Luka is miles ahead of Trae
@bullykojima3232
@bullykojima3232 2 года назад
Now ??
@tobi5988
@tobi5988 2 года назад
The warriors
@prazertv
@prazertv 5 лет назад
When Atlanta made that trade, my first thought was "Oh oh, here they go again!" They had a shot at greatness, but that's Atlanta's problem. They will always be a bottom feeder team. They lack the ability to recognize great talent and they only responded to emotion and hype. EDIT: Congrats to Atlanta! Your team is no longer a bottom feeder. It appears that the Trae pick ended up working out after all. I still think that Luka is a better player, but Trae works well in your system.
@cmoneyno5
@cmoneyno5 5 лет назад
prazertv the Hawks did trade Dominique Wilkins for Danny Manning when they had the best record in the East...
@christ5687
@christ5687 5 лет назад
You know nothing about the Hawks
@christ5687
@christ5687 5 лет назад
@Nimbus Shields @prazertv the GM of Atlanta was assistant GM of Golden State when they drafted Steph, Klay, and Draymond. The head GM of GSW that drafted them and built that team is on staff in Atlanta as head special advisor. It's not directionless it's on year 2 of a rebuild. The front office that is rebuilding it is essentially the team that built the current GSW team. Anyone that compares the current Hawks to past Hawks teams doesn't know what they are talking about. The ownership changed like 4 years ago, after Bud screwed up and let the entire 60 win team leave (among other mistakes) the entire front office was stripped of power and the team that built the GSW dynasty was given reign about 2 years ago. The decision to trade Luka for Trae and a first rounder was a decision made by Travis Schlenk and Larry Riley (GM team that built GSW, Riley Curry (steph's daughter was named after Larry Riley btw) with heavy influence fro. Jerry West, who is a close mentor of Travis Schlenk also. Trae was drafted almost exclusively for his passing (NOT SHOOTING) and his ceiling (which we wont come close to seeing until about 4 years)
@derrickrc5853
@derrickrc5853 5 лет назад
@@christ5687 These people (youTube haters) have no long-term vision. Let's just be honest here, even the guys calling themselves Atlanta fans here AREN'T fans. They are "winning bandwagons" riders, Atlanta is FULL of them. This guy 2-3 comments up, said they are bottom feeders. But how many years ago were they in the Divisional Finals? Like stop the hate and see how the ENTIRE organization is rebuilding, and they are sitting nice right now going into 2019 Draft. Said haters will then jump back on Atl's jockstrap saying how they knew "this" would happen.
@eazyj2888
@eazyj2888 5 лет назад
Chris Toland ..WE LOOKING GOOD NOW BUDDY!!!! It Was A Great Trade In My Eyes Man💯💯..
@mromneyobama
@mromneyobama 5 лет назад
Fastforward to now. Bill Simmons is a smart fella for seeing the future.
@Mr-Clean
@Mr-Clean 5 лет назад
He only looked ahead 2 months though unfortunately
@Shawnpimpin601
@Shawnpimpin601 2 года назад
What future?
@__________..
@__________.. 2 года назад
Naw he dum
@user-er8kz2jg6o
@user-er8kz2jg6o 14 дней назад
Yup
@MrMiD.Life.Crisis
@MrMiD.Life.Crisis 5 лет назад
I checked the suggested video 3 times to make sure it wasnt from 2013 or something when i saw BILL SIMMONS on it - the best thing on youtube for me has always been Bill & Jalen's NBA preview, real shxtty that it came and went so fast!!!
@GeronFletcher
@GeronFletcher 3 года назад
My friend is STILL running around saying Atlanta made a good move lol he’s so stubborn
@xJayhawkFANx
@xJayhawkFANx 3 года назад
Lol..... look at the Hawks record... then look at the Mavs record.... Luka took a hopeless mavs team into a playoff team in two years. Your friend is not only ignorant, but his basketball IQ is severely lacking
@mattofmatticus7746
@mattofmatticus7746 3 года назад
Luka had the best bench in the league as well as a HOF coach. Trae had a 1st time head coach and arguably the worst supporting cast in the league. At least be knowledgeable about what you’re saying before you speak on it
@GeronFletcher
@GeronFletcher 3 года назад
@@mattofmatticus7746 dude it has nothing to do with his bench lol luka Is better period
@inputyoidad2500
@inputyoidad2500 3 года назад
@@GeronFletcher yes it does😂 basketball is a team sport my guy , learn the sport b4 u speak on iy
@drazenfx
@drazenfx 3 года назад
@@mattofmatticus7746 Best bench in league. You must be joking.
@Privateryannnn
@Privateryannnn Год назад
He’s right. Trae Young is phenomenal but Luka is a generational talent. I’ve been saying this since day one
@Tariq8442
@Tariq8442 5 лет назад
Bill Simmons is the same guy that said Ricky Rubio was gonna be a top 5 point guard in the league and that he was better than Steph and James Harden
@icumfreedom5294
@icumfreedom5294 5 лет назад
He is a point guard in the league
@airziiairzii708
@airziiairzii708 5 лет назад
BRUH. What is this comment?
@Tariq8442
@Tariq8442 5 лет назад
justanothersoullostinthedepths of temptations it didn’t come out correct it says top 5 point guard
@Razorslash312
@Razorslash312 5 лет назад
But he also admits when he is wrong, which is rare
@JeremyCrescendo
@JeremyCrescendo 5 лет назад
He was Injured asf, u seen him at 100% locking down an MVP Westbrook in playoffs stop playing wit rubio dude
@tjg4663
@tjg4663 5 лет назад
Thank you Atlanta
@kingkeelo1383
@kingkeelo1383 5 лет назад
Lmao you're welcome. (-__-)
@quincyweaver52
@quincyweaver52 5 лет назад
Agreed....thank y'all so much
@forrestburnett5123
@forrestburnett5123 5 лет назад
Thanks for what hold your horses everyone acting like Dallas is going to run off 5 straight championships
@Chrisnxtdoor
@Chrisnxtdoor 5 лет назад
Forrest Burnett shoot they gotta all star their first season over a volume scoring play maker I think they should be happy
@emanuelarreola5826
@emanuelarreola5826 5 лет назад
No, thank you Dallas 😂😂. First round pick and trae, who is just as good as Luka
@davidellis5141
@davidellis5141 5 лет назад
Thought Bill Simmons was in exile with Ryen Rusillo.Their both kinda back. Good Hoops guys.
@Nfl360
@Nfl360 5 лет назад
As a Hawks fan I was pissed that we passed on him and took Young, but.... I think this was more about taking a huge chance at him becoming a star (one we havent had in the ATL since Nique) and getting people to the games. Now Luka was way safer, but Young has a higher ceiling to me, but also def. bust potential. That being said, way too early to discuss who won and lost this trade. Give both like 3-4 years.
@brotherLee340
@brotherLee340 5 лет назад
Not to mention the Hawks got the Mavs pick for next year. We can possibly have 2 top 10 picks
@ianhusk9052
@ianhusk9052 5 лет назад
dallas might go to the playoffs no way for their pick to be top 10
@SuperMrFriendly
@SuperMrFriendly 5 лет назад
minus loosing schroeder to play young
@chriss.9398
@chriss.9398 5 лет назад
I know a lot of people are going to talk about the trade for years to come but honestly I hope Young works out for the Hawks. They knew how much Luka meant to that team and for that fact of throwing us a huge solid as a mavs fan, I am hoping building through their picks works out well for them.
@Nfl360
@Nfl360 5 лет назад
@nicebagel Luka at the worst will be a solid NBA player for many years. Young is either going to be a super star or a bust. I just dont see Luka becoming a huge star in the league. Could be very wrong, but he just strikes me as someone with very limited upside. (He will be the best rookie tho, no doubt)
@sportsguy0518
@sportsguy0518 3 года назад
This has aged like fine wine. Simmons was way ahead of the curve.
@benshelton7529
@benshelton7529 3 года назад
Trae is killer just wait and see he will be mentioned as a top 5 player in a couple years like Luka
@Shawnpimpin601
@Shawnpimpin601 3 года назад
How?Explain 🤣🤣🤣
@__________..
@__________.. 2 года назад
What? Sorry can’t find who luka played in the conference finals. Still looking though.
@TheBeautifulMynd
@TheBeautifulMynd 5 лет назад
Great to see Bill back with the crew
@theTG1995
@theTG1995 5 лет назад
givin me some OG grantland vibes. love seeing bill jalen and jacoby together!
@mmageek
@mmageek 2 года назад
5/30/21 I'm looking at the ATLvNYK score with 7 minutes left (103-78) Trae looks like a monster. No shade to Luka, he's incredible. This take (and the subsequent years of BS complaining) did not age well. ATL was bound to find the right formula of players around Trae and let's face it he had to mature.
@J-Hue
@J-Hue 2 года назад
And now Trae's posting 28 and 9.5 while Luka's play has been on the decline the past 2 seasons due to poor fitness. Both are MVP caliber players at their best, but Trae's getting more out of his game right now.
@kennethhanes5702
@kennethhanes5702 2 года назад
@@J-Hue dude please just stop. Luka isn’t on the decline, that’s absurd. Luka is still the clear better player, he does literally everything better but shoot the three and free throw and even then if Luka gets out of this slump he could be a better three point shooter
@abdullahkaanturker4656
@abdullahkaanturker4656 2 года назад
@@J-Hue stop using what you use. It doesn't help you.
@BrickTheGodd
@BrickTheGodd Год назад
luka on the decline 💀 bro averaging 37 rn and career 33/8/8 in playoffs
@theelvenrefuge6632
@theelvenrefuge6632 3 месяца назад
@@J-Hue
@marshallpo6414
@marshallpo6414 5 лет назад
Atlanta should not have traded away Luka, but two possible top 10 picks next year is pretty sweet ngl
@empireoflightz
@empireoflightz 5 лет назад
On paper. If both end up being busts then you have a whole lot of sadface emojis
@bennyehud7944
@bennyehud7944 5 лет назад
MarshallPl They should have traded him away or drafted another player. Doncic isn't a star. He's a decent to above average NBA player at best.
@thuggathuggababy
@thuggathuggababy 5 лет назад
Benny Ehud nigga shut up
@treymatthews3353
@treymatthews3353 5 лет назад
oflightz if luka ends up being a bust I can say the same thing to you
@bennyehud7944
@bennyehud7944 5 лет назад
@@thuggathuggababy I gotta keep talking, my nigga lol I just tell the truth.
@hcole3201
@hcole3201 5 лет назад
When the hawks need someone who can score and is a star and can play USA ball, but people still give them shit bc they didn’t get a playmaker from the euroleague.
@JC-ev2ns
@JC-ev2ns 5 лет назад
Bill managed to make it on to at least two ESPN shows this week. Great look for my guy
@youngamong7618
@youngamong7618 5 лет назад
I can never take this show seriously 😂
@fromwaydowntownbang435
@fromwaydowntownbang435 3 года назад
In college they said he’s too small for the nba he’s gonna be another jimmer it’s pretty disrespectful to compare him to a 2x mvp 3 time nba champion steph curry I think donte divincenzo has a higher ceiling than Trae young-✅ At the draft they said this is a mistake probably one of the worst trades of the century Trae young will be a average pg at best Luka will be the next generational talent-✅ During summer league was doubted and called a bust before even stepping on to a nba court-✅ First half of his rookie year see what we said he’s a straight bust Atlanta will regret this trade for years that gm needs to go -✅ 2nd half he’s better than we thought but he’s never gonna be a luka Doncic he’s never gonna be a all star or anything but he’s decent at best- ✅ Rookie of the year see we told u it wasn’t going be close luka should have won unanimously he’s that much better it was never close to begin with -✅ 2nd year Makes all star starters team why is trae young a all star starter look at butler and all these other stars this is just ridiculous to have him as a starter look at the record he isn’t deserving of being on the team-✅ 2nd year Trae is killing it but i don’t know if the hawks are a great team look at luka he’s putting up great numbers and actually has his team in the playoffs and I don’t know if Trae can be a leader and a number one scoring option on a championship team I just don’t think he can get them close to the playoffs -❓ People keep asking me if I feel pressure. But I don't feel pressure. I realize there's a lot on my plate, a lot of expectations for me to come in and win and do certain things. But I'm just playing the way I always have.- Trae Young
@johndayton9072
@johndayton9072 2 года назад
Yeah- this aged well
@LonghornsLegend
@LonghornsLegend 5 лет назад
Preciate it ATL👏🏾
@AndreInThe416
@AndreInThe416 4 месяца назад
Aged well, they still over emphasize workouts though. If he impressed that much in first preseason game, then all those scouts passing on him were idiots.
@ximienlundquist8487
@ximienlundquist8487 5 лет назад
23 likes, 0 dislikes. At least the early crowd is smart and knows Atlanta messed up lol
@Aih1616
@Aih1616 5 лет назад
Ximien Lum 141 likes 1 dislikes now. Obviously 1 dislike from some fool in Hawks organization.
@jay-leandrouchiha3369
@jay-leandrouchiha3369 5 лет назад
I got like number 1000
@kanyeweast9724
@kanyeweast9724 5 лет назад
@@805fillmore 25 and 15? Sounds like your the dumb one here lmao. You telling me he's gonna be one of the all time scorers and the best facilitator in history? C'mon lol. 25 and 15 is asking too much of anybody. That means he's scoring a quarter of the points and then assisting on another 15%. He'd be the greatest PG of all time lol
@bennyehud7944
@bennyehud7944 5 лет назад
Ximien Lum Hawks may have messed up. But it has nothing to do with Doncic. They could have gotten ANY player besides Ayton and Bagley. And they went with Trae Young. We'll see how that goes. But they won't regret not taking Doncic lol
@Mr-Clean
@Mr-Clean 5 лет назад
This just in Atlanta did not mess up
@kharis87
@kharis87 5 лет назад
Hawks think Trae Young is Steph Curry...............silly stuff😂
@805fillmore
@805fillmore 5 лет назад
Mavs fans think Luka is Larry bird 😂
@Jrock420blam
@Jrock420blam 5 лет назад
I have literally never heard of Luka being compared to Larry Bird., they aren't even remotely the same style. Like comparing Trae to Magic Johnson.
@thebutlerdidit365
@thebutlerdidit365 5 лет назад
Seven Grand Lmfao major facts
@MAVSMANE
@MAVSMANE 5 лет назад
@@805fillmore nobody has said that, shut yo dumbass up
@kharis87
@kharis87 5 лет назад
Seven Grand I think u mean they HOPE he is like Bird😂😂😂
@Alexred94
@Alexred94 5 лет назад
Someone explain to me how bill is back on espn?
@karatosimonikimakat
@karatosimonikimakat 5 лет назад
Damn Simmons was right
@MikeCheckMikeG
@MikeCheckMikeG 5 лет назад
Are you sure?
@Mr-Clean
@Mr-Clean 5 лет назад
Are you Sure? (I don't think busts put up 49 before they turn 20]
@satchelx7880
@satchelx7880 5 лет назад
Sure?
@fojemo1661
@fojemo1661 3 года назад
@@MikeCheckMikeG pretty sure. Pretty sure. You should delete your reply.
@MikeCheckMikeG
@MikeCheckMikeG 3 года назад
@@fojemo1661 nah.....2 games? You sill AF
@oscarice8191
@oscarice8191 5 лет назад
Honestly they are both going to be fine.
@keishlamontes2190
@keishlamontes2190 3 года назад
Luka is better though
@russh3550
@russh3550 3 года назад
@@keishlamontes2190 not
@keishlamontes2190
@keishlamontes2190 3 года назад
@@russh3550 he is though do you even watch the nba
@russh3550
@russh3550 3 года назад
@@keishlamontes2190 Yeah but my guess is you don't actually watch Trae play.
@keishlamontes2190
@keishlamontes2190 3 года назад
@@russh3550 i do actually and i watch Luka play and Luka is better
@jcw034
@jcw034 5 лет назад
No it isn't. You need to wait 3 to for seasons to judge. You need to know what he becomes plus Trae and what they get for the Mavs picks. If Trae become a Steph and that pick becomes a Klay they win the trade. They are in the East and have a easier chance to pop than in the West. Give it time. This can't be predicted for a few years
@__________..
@__________.. 2 года назад
Congrats on the only comment that is correct
@FashionRoadman
@FashionRoadman 5 лет назад
The euroleague is clearly the second best league in the world and Doncic was the MVP of that league at 19. No one in his draft class is close to as good as him.
@MosMoney187
@MosMoney187 5 лет назад
Bill Simmons and Jalen would be super dope on Showtime. Bill has no filter and Jalen is the real deal
@westheking12
@westheking12 5 лет назад
NO SHIT. But in all seriousness he not even playing in a real NBA game yet. And he has great court vision and passing, and for the shooting he not going to be a Steph Curry but I think he will be one of the best off the dribble shooters in the NBA.
@mejo4903
@mejo4903 5 лет назад
He play against okc with 16 years and win that mach with real madrid
@superstar_h_gamer5211
@superstar_h_gamer5211 5 лет назад
Yeah
@AhTalk0
@AhTalk0 5 лет назад
We don’t know what they get next year with pick?
@jerrybronham
@jerrybronham 5 лет назад
It could even be Luka Doncic
@kalebpyle7476
@kalebpyle7476 5 лет назад
Depends on if it was a protected pick and how bad (or good) the Mavs play this year. I don't imagine they get that good of a player tho
@805fillmore
@805fillmore 5 лет назад
Kaleb pye I imagine they get a superstar with that pick to make Cuban pay for his actions.
@kingkeelo1383
@kingkeelo1383 5 лет назад
If the Mavs make the playoffs they get their pick back, so it's going to be interesting to see how screwed the Hawks really are.
@AhTalk0
@AhTalk0 5 лет назад
Hawks will have some good picks next year they'll be much better in 2 seasons.
@KillaCsOnAttack
@KillaCsOnAttack 5 лет назад
Thought the same thing when the trade went down. This had the potential to be one of the worst trades ever. Still I think young has some potential. The kid definitely has elite vision and reminds me a lot of steve nash. If he could get to that level at least it wouldn't be so bad
@karithema9ician657
@karithema9ician657 5 лет назад
I think that kid was BORN to be this good. He literally is just fuckin skilled and once he start weights like crazy shit is gonna be scary
@johnprince2943
@johnprince2943 2 года назад
This let's you know these guys have no idea what they are talking about. Being paid to be wrong about stuff.
@moneyball647
@moneyball647 19 дней назад
LOL. Bill was spot on. Luka is in the top 10 of all time greatest trajectory while Trae maybe top 100 players of all time.
@kml6780
@kml6780 5 лет назад
Hawks make one of the biggest mistake of draft history😂😂😂
@Mr-Clean
@Mr-Clean 5 лет назад
Nah
@jongendich5268
@jongendich5268 5 лет назад
*Mavs Trae’s better than Luka
@dxmc1813
@dxmc1813 3 года назад
@@jongendich5268 lol trae should be in the playoffs bc he's in the weaker east conference
@KennysFit
@KennysFit 5 лет назад
Honestly the first time ive ever seen Bill's face
@chikmadisonwiusa2014
@chikmadisonwiusa2014 5 лет назад
Jalen and Luka are actually good comps... Both big guards that might not be quick but they use their size effectively to shield the ball and get by people. Plus, Luka might get stronger and faster with NBA training...
@kalebpyle7476
@kalebpyle7476 5 лет назад
Big facts everyone complaining cause Luka is slow but he hasn't even worked out in a NBA setting for a full season yet
@peterman5552_
@peterman5552_ 5 лет назад
People said the same thing about Jimmer Fredette, Adam Morrison and a host of other players.
@empireoflightz
@empireoflightz 5 лет назад
So you're comparing a pint-sized, unathletic volume shooter and a mentally shakey dude who collapsed in the NCAA final to a kid who's won titles against grown men in a much better league, and even won the effing league MVP doing it?
@ubadman1
@ubadman1 5 лет назад
Who the HELL compared him to jimmer??? They are both white thats about the only comparison.
@tuni11223344
@tuni11223344 5 лет назад
oh fuck you, honestly
@Numbers21589302
@Numbers21589302 5 лет назад
peterman5552 yeah trae young is jimmer 2.0 I agree
@joecochran5027
@joecochran5027 5 лет назад
This didn't age well. Mavs weren't good, but Trae Young certainly is. Experts....
@kohsmoger1567
@kohsmoger1567 5 лет назад
Uhm they are like 4 games out of 500. They get on a run the can easily be a playoff team
@joecochran5027
@joecochran5027 5 лет назад
@@kohsmoger1567 nah. They're tanking
@kohsmoger1567
@kohsmoger1567 5 лет назад
Joe Cochran then their doing a really bad job at it
@jacksonlord8297
@jacksonlord8297 4 года назад
Koh Smoger lol
@yeuurr1
@yeuurr1 5 лет назад
Since when has Bill been back on ESPN?
@brand2k
@brand2k 5 лет назад
Hey its that guy who used to be on HBO. Cool nice beard.
@sandernista6499
@sandernista6499 5 лет назад
Didnt Bill Simmons have a beef with ESPN? 🤔
@ssb2828
@ssb2828 5 лет назад
I heard ESPN changed management recently, that might be why he is back
@sandernista6499
@sandernista6499 5 лет назад
@@ssb2828 Hopefully, i might tune into ESPN's draft coverage again if he comes back.
@edwardgutierrez8844
@edwardgutierrez8844 5 лет назад
SSB 28 he’s not back, he was just a special guesy
@choppertoteme5007
@choppertoteme5007 5 лет назад
HBO bombed lmao
@TheIcemanthomas
@TheIcemanthomas 5 лет назад
stop over projecting. Let them boys play first.
@Yoni123
@Yoni123 5 лет назад
Stretch Mark 4? How does that differ from a stretch 4?
@z0tw
@z0tw 5 лет назад
Trading doncic for young was a great business decision that fits great for the future if the team. Atlanta was looking to trade dennis prior to the draft anyway and was looking for suitors all the way back in january. They needed a replacement at the position and young was the most tantalizing and talented player at the position in the draft. Drafting doncic and keeping him would not make sense for a few reasons. Hawks still have a near immovable bazemore contract and prince starting. They are still hoping out for dorsey and bembry to show they belong. If the kept doncic it was have made a couple of the recent picks atlanta has made a waste. On top of this where are the 30 minutes a night going to come from? Prince and bazemore were two of the best players from laast years team anyway so they will demand minutes from the get go. Aside from this the hawks nabbed a future pick feom dallas which has a high chance to convey in 2019. Lastlyatlanta isnt looking to win this year but develop all the talent. Huerter doesnt look ready right now due to his recent handwrist injury and spellman has been solid but isnt starter material yet but could be in the future. Hawks are looking for a pair of top 10 picks next year with the hopes of one of them being top 5. Bill simmons doesnt have an inkling what atlanta is doing because he doesnt follow the teams moves rumors or position in the league from a money standpoint.
@camerondavies8442
@camerondavies8442 10 месяцев назад
You still sure he was wrong😂
@OOTD_
@OOTD_ 5 лет назад
Keep sleeping on Trae.
@SuperMrFriendly
@SuperMrFriendly 5 лет назад
im gonna laugh my ass of at that clown, that retarded franchise and the sorry fucks who have to be fans of that show
@robinrobin613
@robinrobin613 5 лет назад
Yeah he sucks
@kylanfleming9362
@kylanfleming9362 5 лет назад
SuperMrFriendly yea laugh now bud
@Mr-Clean
@Mr-Clean 4 года назад
@@robinrobin613 ???
@__________..
@__________.. 2 года назад
@@robinrobin613 bruh you watched a summer league game
@RefundHD
@RefundHD 5 лет назад
Lets see how Luka fairs against a real team in the 76ers
@hisoyami
@hisoyami 5 лет назад
well he schooled them xD the boy can play
@superstar_h_gamer5211
@superstar_h_gamer5211 5 лет назад
How about the warriors
@jordyrodriguez7203
@jordyrodriguez7203 5 лет назад
We still havent seen the player the hawks are gonna get from the pick next year, in not a huge fan of trae young but him and whoever the nexf pick is gonna be may be collectively better tham luka
@voycedatruf
@voycedatruf 5 лет назад
This show was sooooooo much better with Bill Simmons on it.
@allensaunders449
@allensaunders449 5 лет назад
Why even do such a pointless segment nobody is anybody yet
@gg_v2
@gg_v2 5 лет назад
Until I see this luka kid put up 30 on a top tier NBA Team, they need to hop off the hype train. Watch he underperforms this season
@BandManAj
@BandManAj 5 лет назад
Who the fuck really cares besides the warriors and lakers everybody’s pretty much irrelevant
@BUFFVLO
@BUFFVLO 5 лет назад
thank you
@SinaSoh
@SinaSoh 5 лет назад
Ayzoh with your narrow minded mentality, that’s why the NBA is a joke. They try to shove the Warriors, LeBron & the Lakers up the fans assess.
@allensaunders449
@allensaunders449 5 лет назад
@@SinaSoh the nba a joke your comment is a joke
@arkpnbf04
@arkpnbf04 5 лет назад
let's go mavs!
@penaltyflag366
@penaltyflag366 5 лет назад
Everbody sleeping on doncic but with the pressure off dsj I think they'll both be imediate stars this year
@johnnybeatmaker330
@johnnybeatmaker330 5 лет назад
When bill come back💪👍
@michaelayeni177
@michaelayeni177 5 лет назад
IT'S BECAUSE ATLANTA NEEDED TO BRING ATTENDANCE REVENUE.
@jasonhelem2824
@jasonhelem2824 5 лет назад
Trae young fits the "welcome to Atlanta"
@SuperMrFriendly
@SuperMrFriendly 5 лет назад
in what world would you rather go see young live and in action than luka doncic? is it because its a black city?
@michaelayeni177
@michaelayeni177 5 лет назад
@@SuperMrFriendly we are just following GSW's game plan as after we hired former GSW's GM. It's fun to see a player jack up 3's like its nothing
@ARHB23
@ARHB23 5 лет назад
Damn what did trae young do to yall😭😭 y'all acting like y'all can beat him 1on1 or sumn no matter who they drafted y'all acting like they still ain't getting next year 1st pick they can try again
@hoodiepgfuckthebandwagonsa3655
They been trying since the franchise was created, and yeah i better hope he can beat me in a 1v1 he's a nba player, still doesn't mean he's good duh
@zackmiramontez8772
@zackmiramontez8772 5 лет назад
Luka could've beat him 1v3 first round picks that the Hawks got
@midgetporn9735
@midgetporn9735 5 лет назад
Yall
@ARHB23
@ARHB23 5 лет назад
He must be yall girl fav player the way yall hating😷 most of yall pray to be in his position but still hating smh you boys sick sick
@modoki666
@modoki666 5 лет назад
Truth hurts you know..
@navshawnguron99
@navshawnguron99 5 лет назад
Haven't seen his face in a while, he looks older he knows basketball
@__________..
@__________.. 2 года назад
Nope
@alvin081988
@alvin081988 5 лет назад
Damn!!! miss this no nonsense guy Bill Simmons
@Useraccount303
@Useraccount303 4 года назад
lol he won rookie of the year😂✍🏽
@josh3103cr
@josh3103cr 4 года назад
Will Peter and know he can win the mvp
@__________..
@__________.. 2 года назад
Ok
@thegoldenboy294
@thegoldenboy294 5 лет назад
Chill, Luka is gonna be an all star for sure,.but maybe Trae is the second coming of Curry, give the kid some time, Trae HAS potential!
@alenatran519
@alenatran519 5 лет назад
Trading Luka Doncic for Trae Young was a good decision as a hawks fan. Everyone forgetting about John Collins and Trae Young. Trae and Doncic are both great players, and this trade was not a mistake.
@drazenfx
@drazenfx 3 года назад
What are suppose to say you are a Hawks fan.
@805fillmore
@805fillmore 5 лет назад
While I agree yes Luka has produced and probably will be a good NBA player his ceiling is what everyone questions. I wouldn't be surprised at all if he's just a really good role player and I'd be shocked if he's ever an all star. Now trae if he hits his ceiling is a steph curry or dame lillard type but with elite passing. Not to mention that draft pick which should still be in the lotto since Dallas is improved but nowhere near competing for a playoff spot. There's been plenty of great players even superstars taken in the mavs projected draft spot.
@bigpayso247
@bigpayso247 5 лет назад
Seven Grand Trae could be transcendent with the right system.
@IlijaBossrock
@IlijaBossrock 5 лет назад
Ok than you would be shocked
@toschaanxher
@toschaanxher 5 лет назад
Is the mavs good this year? Asking for a friend 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@jay2thaudy
@jay2thaudy 4 года назад
👀
@calebkabera3367
@calebkabera3367 5 лет назад
Y’all gonna eat your words when Trae young starts balling tf out #keepthatsameenergy
@hungerxhunger2548
@hungerxhunger2548 5 лет назад
You just salty Luka is better lol.
@calebkabera3367
@calebkabera3367 5 лет назад
No I’m salty bc he thinks Trae young isn’t up there with him . I actually like Luka
@wandameadows5736
@wandameadows5736 Год назад
Only time I've heard Bill Simmons give an accurate prediction.
@chingshunyung8796
@chingshunyung8796 5 лет назад
The best case is both Luka and Trae Young produce. The only thing I care is whether Luka is good. I wish the Hawks best luck with Trae Young but I don't care whether we "win the trade" or not. Since it's not like we're going to draft Trae Young but we give him up for Doncic. I'm hundred percent sure we're drafting Mo Bamba over Young if the trade didn't happen.
@JohnDoe_88
@JohnDoe_88 5 лет назад
We definitely miss Bill Simmons he knows basketball
@ryanjoseph4611
@ryanjoseph4611 2 года назад
SO TRADING A PLAYER THAT EVENTUALLY LED YOU TO YOUR FIRST ECF APPEARANCE IN 4 YEARS WAS A MISTAKE? DIDNT AGE WELL
@__________..
@__________.. 2 года назад
3 years*
@lamereohargett8897
@lamereohargett8897 2 года назад
Yep look at him now
@BrickTheGodd
@BrickTheGodd Год назад
luka magic
@kyuubi7523
@kyuubi7523 Год назад
Was a fluke run , how about now
@KitKat-hn5gd
@KitKat-hn5gd 5 лет назад
I think the dallas mavericks will be fun team to watch this season especially with Kostas A
@siniister710
@siniister710 3 месяца назад
glad they knew
@haydenkyle3845
@haydenkyle3845 5 лет назад
I have one thing to say to this lol😂😂😂😂
@mt4430
@mt4430 5 лет назад
Hayden Kyle lmaoo😭
@rodvincetolosa9386
@rodvincetolosa9386 4 года назад
how about now?
@richardtheidor4204
@richardtheidor4204 3 года назад
Is a win win trade
@sanricklim7185
@sanricklim7185 5 лет назад
and after year one...
@trinityhill3749
@trinityhill3749 5 лет назад
Everybody keeps saying he played in the second best league but 8 of the 10 best players in the league right played in the NCAA. LeBron didn't play college ball but would have before going to Europe
@ErrisOfficial
@ErrisOfficial 4 года назад
They will both be starting in the 2020 All-Star Game in their sophomore seasons. Bill Simmons embarrassed by Atlanta sports...yet again.
@AK-74K
@AK-74K 3 года назад
Young and Doncic are different calibre of players. Bill got it spot on
@ErrisOfficial
@ErrisOfficial 3 года назад
@jo tr Lol these comments aged like dogshit. AGAIN Atlanta sports embarrasses skeptics.
@Shawnpimpin601
@Shawnpimpin601 2 года назад
This didn't age well
@Goodiemanprods
@Goodiemanprods 2 года назад
No it did not let’s go hawks
@KevooMufasa7
@KevooMufasa7 5 лет назад
Fan of B Simms but Trae Young is gonna be nice in this league
@joshliggins2260
@joshliggins2260 5 лет назад
trae going to be a better playmaking but less efficient steph and luka looks to be the only guy like himself.think of a mixture between harden and ginobli only right handed.
@rickgarcia3854
@rickgarcia3854 5 лет назад
Have him play against a NBA team first
@Shawnpimpin601
@Shawnpimpin601 5 лет назад
Rick Garcia Facts
@Jrock420blam
@Jrock420blam 5 лет назад
Does that mean Trae is a bust since he couldn't perform well vs NO?
@thebutlerdidit365
@thebutlerdidit365 5 лет назад
Jrock420blam Y’all act like a rookie can’t have a off shooting night y’all won’t talk about He was + 13 had 8 assist and team won by double digits tho that night and he faced a playoff team in his first actual game against a real nba team lmao
@Jrock420blam
@Jrock420blam 5 лет назад
@@thebutlerdidit365 ironic you say that like Trae shouldn't be held to the same standard Luka is being held too. Trae couldn't make an open shot and he gets a pass, while the bench won the game for him. Luka plays well and somehow he's slow and not as good. The logic is astounding lol
@thebutlerdidit365
@thebutlerdidit365 5 лет назад
Jrock420blam I never said that Dlo is slow and he’s good I think doncic is great. Trae did other things good in that game besides score even tho he had a off night he still got double digits so he will be good
@Matt-fu8kn
@Matt-fu8kn 2 года назад
Aged like milk
@davidbertrand7069
@davidbertrand7069 5 лет назад
Hawks fan here and I said that was a mistake on draft night and got put on blast. Tray Young couldn't carry Lukas jock strap in a suitcase!
@NRV0
@NRV0 5 лет назад
Not many foreign players can ball in the states. I hope he becomes the Mavs future franchise player.
@Bot-mr2jv
@Bot-mr2jv 5 лет назад
Luka is better but do you really want Trae Young and Dennis Smith Jr on the same team? Think about the fit
@sandernista6499
@sandernista6499 5 лет назад
The mavs wouldnt have drafted trae young, they were going to take mo bamba if they couldnt get Doncic.
@aaronapplewhite6334
@aaronapplewhite6334 5 лет назад
@@sandernista6499 idk I thin we might've taken Wendell carter
@chrisdeleon2615
@chrisdeleon2615 5 лет назад
Aaron Applewhite If Luka were off the board though the Mavs definitely wouldn’t have taken Trae Young
@aaronapplewhite6334
@aaronapplewhite6334 5 лет назад
@@chrisdeleon2615 o yeh he def wasnt gonna be our pick honesty even if we didnt have dsj I wouldnt have wanted him if luka was gone
@805fillmore
@805fillmore 5 лет назад
Aaron you're high as fuck. Trae is an elite passer/playmaker on top of being a great shooter, him and DJ would be amazing to watch. People need to stop dick riding Luka
@topfloorky1268
@topfloorky1268 5 лет назад
Luka is better right now but Trae has more potential and can do more for the hawks
@damianhSlayer
@damianhSlayer 5 лет назад
Luka is better then Trey his whole life and not just now.lol
@thebutlerdidit365
@thebutlerdidit365 5 лет назад
Damian X Can y’all stop suckin off Luka so much like that’s a rediclous comment like what luka did in the euro league is uncommon but trae literally lead ncaa in points and assist in the same season nobody ever did that so they both have respectable feats like damn can we be logical and compare them by mid season atleast I hate casual nba fans I swear
@Slickgary007
@Slickgary007 5 лет назад
TheButler DidIT and in turnovers. He’s overrated asf
@robinrobin613
@robinrobin613 5 лет назад
@@thebutlerdidit365 Stfu
@atrantech11
@atrantech11 5 лет назад
What is a Mark 4?
@mygaffer
@mygaffer 5 лет назад
They are getting another first round pick out of it, possibly a lottery pick. Until we see who they get with that we won't know how good or bad the trade was. We also don't really know how good Luka will be yet.
@deionwattsog6167
@deionwattsog6167 3 года назад
Well atlanta got a 30 10 Guard so keep hating
@nostradumass6248
@nostradumass6248 2 года назад
oh look bill simmons was wrong again
@abdullahkaanturker4656
@abdullahkaanturker4656 2 года назад
No he isn't
@lamereohargett8897
@lamereohargett8897 2 года назад
Nope
@basedstatement1579
@basedstatement1579 5 лет назад
Bill Simmons back on ESPN is good TV
@SssagaBenches4U
@SssagaBenches4U 5 лет назад
It's a BOMB!
@OffTopicKamah
@OffTopicKamah 5 лет назад
He gets you one game and here y’all go
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