BLACK METAL IS DEAD 

Nice to see you again! I hope you don't mind that I used your comment as an inspiration to make that video. Cheers!

@@Farvann Of course not. We are civilized people and I love good conversation.

I totally see Farvann's point and he is absolutely right, but why would I as an artist with crappy guitar skills like myself want to sound like a cover band unintentionally? ;-) So I think your still right. If a genre is overdone, it's maybe time to move on and do something different … unless naturally, you really have something to tell and want to use Black Metal as your choice for it. Well, or you just like being in a cover band, because covers are cool and can be pretty creative as well. Shoutout to the Melodica Brothers. Rearranging a song is a pretty expressive art form in itself.

@@stevemuzak8526 Black metal isn't civilized, nor something you are capable of understanding. Its not for weak minded people like you. Its not a different opinion, its an uneducated one! Btw Steve, and anyone reading this, some of my favorite releases these last few years have been from the Angelus, Have a NIce life, Nothing, Emma Ruth Rundle, Hexvessel, and Chrome Waves. Again, its not about what you like, its what you don't like.

you should check polish band "Furia"

"Black Metal embraces diversity, it's just a hobby and we don't take politics serious" - Varg Vikernes, band leader of Der Weg Einer Freiheit

"Black Metal belongs to the Nords" ~ Stormcloak redneck, 4E 201

"Black metal is trve 5h1t regardless of the definition" ~ Ghaalbert Vargstein, Theoretical Metalicist

Lol

"I just think Black Metal is not good for Metallica and it is unfair." - Lars Ulrich, Megadeth

One could say they ultimately become a ceremony of opposites, catch the drift? ;)

Agreed. Music has genres for a reason. People like a specific sound. And stick to it. If you don't like it don't listen to it and shut up. For real I don't get people who say that

Yes and no. (Lets set the stage) You are one for the best artist in the thing you do, you know ins and outs of it, you are the artist for THE job But everyone knows you for the art, for the thing you do, and you decide one day to do something else. You do everything exactly as you did before, except one thing, THE MAIN THING. Your audience hates it, you label hates it, you money show that its not that good.... (scene over) Is that bad to do, inherently?... No... Yes you lost money, you lost OG viewers and mby respect as THE guy... but you made a path way. You made a path way for up and coming atrtists who want to branch out, who want to do THE THING, but differant, and... who better knows that THING then you.... Art is like water, its maybe called the same River but the watter is never the same, its allways changing. You may did bad to your self, but you did good for art in general.

Why? I'd rather listen to a new approach than the same riff ripped from Darkthrone for the millionth time.

@@jdamsel8212 it's never ripped or the same riff. It's inspired and different. If deep house has a beat and a melody that sounds close to another. No one complains about the artists

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Exactly! I like your take on this, friend🤘

Black Metal is Satanic Metal. If you don't sing about Satanic imagery, technically it isn't Black Metal. That was the original idea, and to basically sound like Extreme Thrash Metal, or really primitive Death Metal music without the studio enhanced polished sound

Nice, correct opinion.

this! i was thinking the same

Except Black Metal is a Collective, All Local scenes are just a lame Popularity Contest

Especially scary when you listen to demo's and they do that better a thousand times. I still think "a Gate Through Bloodstained Mirrors" compilation the best album. And that one considered me listening to demos as well, so I have just opened that demos are different in that, and this is why Raw Black Metal exist today.

@@themetalcatacombs3790 Yeah true. The unpolished sound of early BM bands like Darkthrone and Burzum were awesome.

Im actually kind of glad to see someone describe it in that way. I was raised Mormon, and one thing the church teaches is "feeling the spirit." When you're in a good place, you should be able to feel it, and when you're in a bad place it leaves and so you wont. Being young and trusting my parents, I believed in the church when I was younger, and really "felt the spirit." Then I eventually realized I didnt beleive in it, moved out, left the church, and eventually went to my first black metal show. Honestly, it felt exactly the same. It felt spiritual in a way. I dont attribute it to any sort of religion or anything like that. Im not even a spiritual person. But the way I felt in that time was pretty much the exact same.

@@BananaGeekLord glad your ego was aligned with your spirit 🤝. I don't like much of anti-christ lyrics as I believe they are spells that can open up portals for entities that we do not understand. Songs like Mayhem's freezing moon and some early Darkthrone stuff really resonate with me.

One of the reasons I think there has recently been a wave of indigenous Black Metal.

Oh, and I even forgot to mention the genre-crossing mixes like Blackened Doom, Black-Death Metal (Kanonenfieber, 1914), Black'n'Roll'....😊

I'd just call it a very specific aquired taste. You are right of course. ;)

First time seeing Thy Catafalque in league with DSO... they have very different approach to music I think. TC is hardly BM anymore to be honest, more like a fine mixture of a lot of good things, including black metal. Anyway, love 'em both, their geniuses are undeniable :)

You have said it perfectly. I Couldnt agree more. I listen daily to YT channel Black Metal Promotion, where you can see how different one subgenre is from another.

Sadly, that's something the casuals and the uninitiated will never understand. But I do agree 100% with you.

And even then, if it is "the same" sound as before. Is it really a bad thing? I mean, if the person who makes the song enjoys making it and is happy with the final product. It really shouldn't matter.

Overdone is really just relative to the experience of the listener. I've been a metal fan for 41 years, so everything feels overdone to me. But nothing will feel overdone to some kid who feels the excitement of discovering this music for the first time.

You're right. And, let's face, people saying this aren't fans of BM. They never say "this genre should die" if THEY'RE a fan of it.

If I started listenening to black metal now it wouldn't feel overdone.

I think there are still bands pushing the levels the latest mayhem is technically awesome writing wise and playing wise bands like 1349 still killing it but expanding the same sound

I'm curious now, what's your genre? Or subgenre I could say

@@snaremori It must be symphonic post-apocalyptic reindeer-grinding Christ-abusing extreme war pagan Fennoscandian metal. What else?

@@Ironfist85hu1 How weird is it that i know where this reference is from.

Professional metal bands are becoming extinct anyway. Not just black metal. The vast majority of people simply don't buy music. The ones that still do, and go to smaller concerts, are just enough to keep an underground industry, in which musicians probably make enough money to buy a bottle of good whisky every month, or so.

Your advice on record labels is half correct. Record execs are constantly on the prowl for "the next big thing"...but when one label actually finds that new, unique and amazing new sound? The rest go on a relentless trawling expedition to sign "the next Band X", to the point that this band's original sound is beaten into the ground in rapid succession by look and sound alikes, all for the momentary boost in profits that the label will see by oversaturating the market. In the end, record labels (especially those in a financial position to subsidize artists' careers) don't really care about music...they only want the money they can grab by exploiting their artists. Granted, in some rare cases the exploitation is symbiotic and both the label and artist profit... but for every artist that succeeds at this pinnacle of the music business? Millions fail to even crack the surface beyond their local scenes, and even more never get past their garage, basement or practice studio. Moral of the story: your advice about not focusing solely on the business end of the music business is excellent... one should pursue the art of making music because you love to make music, and you'll never fail. If you get rich and/or famous doing so? Awesome, that's an extra bonus prize. If you don't? That's ok too, because you're doing it for the pure love of expressing yourself through the art of creating and performing music, which is a great reward in and of itself... sounds like a win/win proposition to me!

Pretty much every genre is seeing it's golden age right now The proliferation of access to learning materials and the cheapness of instruments now days compared to before along with being able to mix and master it yourself instead of scraping together money to get someone to do it for you(which would usually take years). We have FAR surpassed the number of quality that the 80's gave us......5 years ago, even the 70's really cannot compete with the sheer quantity of medium to high quality music coming out of every corner of the world these days. It's a wonderful time to be alive Especially with so many youtube channels dedicated to promoting every single release for a single genres they can, magazines have NOTHING on what youtube has given us

And you can listen to it for free on RU-vid with two clicks

aquilus releasing an album after 10 yrs

please give me some new band suggestions, because I see rarely anything unique in the BM scene

@@prunonz479 The only one I know of wich isn't part of the larger bands is probably Summoning, Tolkien inspired black metal

Rock on, just make the music you would want to listen to and enjoy yourself That's what being in a band is all about, oh and beating up pretentious jackasses who shit talk because they are negative people; so much fun

What’s your project? Link that bandcamp, man.

GOOD KEEP ON GOING STRONG

Fucking Gevurah rips. Their new album is great!!

I am stuck in the past, in my own world, with my own taste. My taste and circle of band is very limited - not by choosing, just by my own taste. Yes, I am old and cold, ready to die. BUT ... even if I do manage to like a song from abroad, or swell up, like Mgla or - BlackBraid? I have a more simple answer for my even more simple mind and taste: I do not care what kind of bands people do like! As long as people find what I find in the inner holy room of taste? Then thats it! I do not have any need to rank "cool bands" - cant like this, cant like that: Black metal is fuck the world! It does not have to be new - because I keep finding new openings and majestic touch of feelings even listening to old songs from even older bands. There are so many bands and so much music - I would go mad if I had a broader need. The magic is when it does hit the taste button! If "my" same old bands still can find my inner self? Even me, who recycle the music, just changes of picking due to different mood, different time of the year, different mindset? Then it should be possible for modern people to get the same great opening and happening with an even broader possibilaty of choosing! People who do need to find new bands? New bands or twist and turns in the black metal world? Go for it! Be better than me - embrace changes and styles into the magical black well! I do not care what band is labeled as cool, true or with a new formula - all I know there are plenty of bands with plenty of music for everyone! Currenlty embracing Avast and the new Kampfar. Blodhemn, Nordjevel, Elite, Blodsgard, Kirkebrann and DarkThrone in the mix. Probably on my 666 time listening to Borknagar and their broad tunes, all while I am in awe of Ulvehyrde. Next month - probably back to Svartahrid, Tsjuder, Gorgoroth, 1349 and Disiplin... Simple man, simple taste - simple life. Keep scrathing, keep growing and embracing new tunes and band!

@@Skrerosgaldrer The latest Darkthrone's album sucks ....

I was sixteen when A Blaze In the Northern Sky came to my ears. Back then, my two favorite words was: "This suck" - and "No!" ... So I think you should keep your statement with pride. Do I care? No. And I will try a different way of answering.... Maybe I was lucky when I grew up, having such a fountain of second wave to embrace. Young people of today have their fountain of music. When I was a kid - I was really opposing bands who was not like my favorite bands. I had real hate towards most things I did not like. I did burn Cradle of Filth t-shirts, and was in full fury when Satyricon and Keep Of Kalessin did enter the main stream stage in Norway. Ulver, Enslaved, Borknagar - I did not get it, why change?! I was a sick raving mad teen aged sixteen when A Blaze In the Northern Sky came to my ears. I still to this day fucking love the four first albums, including Soulside Journey! Why? because that is where I started alongside with back then - more world wide known bands.Metal and different stages - me and my friends did not have black metal to our ears before fanzines and the second wave came around. No, I was not lucky enough to Celtic Frost or Venom entering my world - got to them later. Batory was not for me - I just understood Mayhem and Burzum. Down the line - think I got most Norse music to hit - apart from Gehenna. Even to this day, they do not enter my taste. Have also zero problems with saying I had to grow older before I got the magic of Emperor. All my friends in bands hailed them the most, but I did not get it. Then they did push my taste button, and I appreciate it even to this day. Black metal was once a new thing, it was slow - one had to know the right people, untill it blew up on every newspaper cover. Wearing black - having long hair once used to be seen as being possesed by the devil! Christianity had a strong stand back then - so yeah, it really was a different time. Maybe that is why it was so important for so many to stick to the "true" part? I do not know... All I know, it was really important for the police and Norwegian government to end sides of black metal. That is why Vikernes was put in jail. The pressure by the media was in fact super loco - not seen ever since up here. I probably started off with Metallica and Slayer and so on - then death metal. Soulside - really? Yes. Still - prefer the Swedish death metal scene from that era. Again - the taste ended up like limited possibilaty. My friend helped with fanzines and letters, sending demos and cassete tapes. The highlight was exhanging tapes - one tape for another tape! Now, everything is to be found with a click on the interweb. Demo tapes? I wish I had kept them all! But like DarkThrone, like life itself: The past is the past - nothing will change that. Some might say it is also best kept - in the past, what do I know. Most modern black metal bands is not for me - then I prefer to change genre. Folk, punk, classical - or take a slow romantic trip to some death metal bands. Some classic metal bands is still inclued - but mostly it is Norwegian black metal - Swedish death metal at the gym. Slayer kept their identity, while Metallica changed. Okay, I prefer Slayer - but the things I like about Metallica? I still like the old stuff no matter what. Did take a dive into their modern music - and it was not for me. So - who cares? Not Metallica, not the people who have entered and embraced their different tunes. Metallica and Kizz is probably the two bands who have been focused on making money. Good for them - they made it. I am not even a musician, so who am I to judge? I like what I like - no big deal. Well, have to admit - when boy pop bands came alive - it was quite easy to see how the masses are sheep! It was quite easy to see sounds and beats being hailed like modern genious, then it is even more important to keep metal alive! Anyway - I have about zero need to use my old claims about bands being sucky, or - any percentage of fucks given about albums I do not like. I used all that energy when I was young. I understand why musicians have the need to change - even if I used to be against it as a fan/listener. Most bands should probably stick to just give out 3 or 4 albums - then the holy grale is kept alive, right? Have some friends in some semi famous bands - and their mindset is quite different than "just listening to music". Musicians, people who do make art? They have their idea - and that is how fan fucking tastic things are being born! Changes? That is a part of being creators, making art - making new art. Without changes, nothing majestic would be born! Good or bad - hated or loved? Without people daring to create - it all stay the same. The same is safe - so that was my point to Mister Geist above: Do not be like me - seek and find! To all the young people: Seek and find - and make new paths for new bands! Be the Ruch of music - and enjoy! Anyway - black metal is about no fucks given - it is against rules and laws: Freedom .... Then there are no rules, even if my personal taste would preferd DarkThrone to march in way darker landscape. I know if they had not dared to walk in different landscapes - I would probably enjoying listening to ABBA or a DJ wearing a Mickey Mouse hat .... JFC! Is the new DarkThrone album my favorite? Not at all. But even if my taste was born in the 90`s - I do not mind DarkThrone or other bands changing. I do no longer embrace the rawest tunes, so I have probably changed a tiny bit when it comes to music. Anyway - changes? That gives me another journey! It does bring the dimensions and sides I pushed away as a kid. Is that understandable? I had a limited circle - and if it was not inside there, I pushed it away. Now I get a new chance, with "my own favorite bands". As a listener - former fan boy? I just focus on the stuff that I like, zero about bringing bad labels. New dimentions, new sounds - all while the once most majestic time is kept. Do not think the last 3 albums from DarkThrone have added much to my "favorite list" - but they have brought another journey, a different kind of statement along with own time and changes. I am happy with that ...

Tape is alive and well in the underground... I've just started recording old classic BM albums and demos to blank tapes for fun :)

@@MetalTrabant yes, I know. There are artists of different genres, electronic included, that release their material on cassettes. It is just such an odd thing.

There is a really small niche in Black Metal that releases short split Eps on Floppy disks. FLOPPY DISKS!!!

that's awesome man!

Dimmu borgir rules😈

Nickolas Barker drum style I'd imagine. ;)

@@Charles_Anthony yep 😁😁

@@dumahdrummer654 Nick Barker? Damn, i'd like to hear your work.

Never give up if it's what you want. It will feel good to stand before your creation.

I wish you the best of luck and never forget: if the music brings you joy, nothing matters more.

Dissection is so good. Whenever I find a band that has their influence I always immediately buy their CD. I bought an album by Ninkharsag, I believe it's their second one. that was just an excellent blend of their own style and an appropriate amount of Dissection worship. I'm trying to remember some other bands I've had that channel Dissection but I'm drawing a blank. Thron's first album comes to mind for some reason too.

Best lyrics

Danke!

Minenwerfer are so good, but Kanonfieber really proved that they were a flash in the pan with their newest album. It doesn't sound cold nor does it sound as good as their last album. I keep hearing about Deathspell Omega, but isn't that band old?

Erzähle, Baba Jaga

@@_axis_ Thank you very much, brother! It was a song by our friend Farvann, hehe! Awesome!

Alpenpasse is one of the most emotional and atmospheric black metal albums I've heard in a good while. Even with their quality production sound, I'd say they're one of the greatest examples of a modern black metal band who have a largely traditional style and still sound fresh

Windir doesn't get enough love. Such an amazing band that I've gone out of my way to buy albums by every offshoot of Songna Metal. Groups like Mistur, Cor Scorpii and Sigtyr are truly to be treasured if you're trying to emulate Windir. I've heard many people say "Vried is the closest to Windir that you can get" but that is nonsense. Truly nonsense. They only say that because two or three of the original members of Windir went on to form Vried, but Vried isn't even that close to Windir. The first albums by Cor Scorpii, Mistur and the entire catalogue of Sigtyr will help you greatly achieve your dream of sounding like Windir. I wish you luck in your quest!

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no it's all about braun

True, should have been more specific

Kein Ding!

Right? Some people should cope and go back to taylor swift. Freaking normies.

Yeah, that's something I don't understand too. Totally not my kind of movies 😄