I'm fully convinced 3:28 is one of the greatest cinematic images ever captured - the last thing Luv sees before she dies is K with a halo of light over his head, the angel that bested even her. Metaphorical imagery that is so beautifully-composed, relevant to the themes of the movie, and so effortless and not putting an exclamation mark on the point its trying to make. Absolutely unrivaled filmmaking.
@@anticom6099 Being critical of movies is "troll behaviors" ? What childish thinking is that ... one can equally praise or critique a movie and post any comments they want to express their thoughts ... I can have sensible discussion about the movie, what makes you people think I cannot ... simply because I do not like your favourite movie , is that even a sensible sentiment ?
Someone must have mentioned this before, but if you notice as she is looking up through the water while drowning, she sees the image of Wallace. She feels sadness and regret for failing her creator. And the look on K’s face after he kills her is sadness as well. He is killing the best of the “angels.” He has become more human than human.
She does not see Wallace. She sees K… another nobody replicant that not reveals to her that she is also nobody and even capable of being bested by another nobody. That she ultimately had no significance and struggled with that and she was ultimately ended by a being that could somehow accept his own insignificance.
When your whole identity is based on utility, then being "the best" means your value is intrinsically tied to your use. More Capitalist than Capitalist. Tbh, I pity Luv.
Resolve is a lazy excuse to explain stupid illogical scenes like this ... Resolve cannot explain why Luv is suddenly so weak she cannot pry K's single-handed choke hold with BOTH her hands ... its ridiculous especially after seeing how she kicks his ass twice before ... even when K changed hands midway through the choke hold, she still let him carry on the choke hold with the other hand ? and when she's underwater, she could have kicked his legs off balance since the flooded floor would be slippery .. but nope, all she could think of is to reach for his neck when its already so obvious her arms are not long enough ... She said she's the best because of course Wallace would make his right hand man stronger than the replicant he made for the police ...thats the logical thing for Wallace to do. So, for her to suddenly become so weak and stupid in the way she dies is just silly ... because Wallace is a genius, why would Wallace make his right hand man so much weaker than the replicant he gave the police .. The end fight just feels really stupid and inconsistent with logic ... unfortunately...
@@88feji pretty hard to move your leg fast enough underwater to kick, and K was using his other hand to steady himself. K had surprised her and pinned her against the wall, it wasn’t a fist fight in this situation, he had longer limbs and had his hand around her throat, caught her off-guard. Yeah, her reflexes and fighting capability might have been better, but not much you can do when someone’s got a death grip on your neck, he’s also lifting her up, so i’m not sure if she has more raw physical strength than K.
@@BRILTHY Firstly, K's hand thats gripping her neck is the same hand that she had just sliced open in the dark water fight ... remember ? How can he still grip her like that .... its an illogical plot freaking hole. Secondly, she should be able to pry open his single handed grip with BOTH HER HANDS. How can she not able to when she's made by Wallace to execute his world domination plans ? Thirdly, its not hard to kick K's legs underwater because the wet floor is a lot more slippery, the violent waves crashing in destabilises K's stance and K's bouyancy all will come together to help anyone kicking his legs ... Fourthly, him changing hands is fast but SHE"S a kungfu expert herself, so she should be able to react fast too ... its just ridiculous to set her up as a kungfu expert throughout the movie and then suddenly she's so slow and weak she cannot do a single thing except make faces at him ....
2:59 I swear, it may just be a trick of the mind, but that *BOOMPH* paired with Luv's increased panic and thrashing is, and this is speculation, I think a moment where K *crushes her fucking windpipe* . Notice how immediately after, all of her strength seems to leave her very quickly, despite being strangled and held underwater for quite sometime already and fighting through. Like I said, it could be a trick of the mind, but god, I think it's real. It makes this scene that much better, that he doesn't just drown her, he DESTROYS her.
@x10 it’s that the common and “imperfect” joe beats the “best” that there is no such thing at being the best, and shows much “human”alike these replicants have become and ofc is what the movie is about, what it means to really be human.
Nobody failed to notice it you quack. Its a blunt non-nuanced statement that has its message put in the simplest form of exposition. It literally is one of the few lines that can be taken at face value with few degrees of contemplation in the entire film. It is not that deep… and you saying nobody understood it ultimately did more to make you seem shallow.
Glad they didn’t do it. The film is ultimately meant to be in the moment. Hence the only flashbacks we are given do not even truly belong to the protagonist… but rather a character that has nearly the slightest presence in the overall plot… To suddenly have K get a flashback of something that was genuinely his would have slaughtered the message in his existential journey in proceeding the hand that he was dealt. Ultimately taking what little heroism there is in his final act. It is one of the few things in film the storyteller does not have to show or tell because largely it cant be derived within a viewers subjective reflection which led to a fan made edit that though creative and perhaps even enjoyable would have done more harm than good had it been in the actual film. Joi is gone… she is GONE and perhaps never truly even was. That was already dealt with by K in the scene where he sees the holo ad. Whether of not the viewer can accept that is what makes the film even more brilliant and it honestly does this well by giving little to no closure without making bare-palm smacking us with hints of any possibility. Joi is gone.
That is not how the lore works. K does not have a soul and ultimately ceases to exist at the moment his capability of self awareness ended. His role as a character was the personification of philosophical isolation and its struggle with equilibrium to existentialism. Joi was never self aware… she was simply a pattern that responded according to the input of her user. She is the concept of philosophical alienation in a visual human form.
Luv should have won that last fight, but being pinned against a wall and then forced and held underwater by a Replicant she considered fatally damaged, with good reason, must have thrown her off. It only takes one mistake... Plus, fantastic film. I just wonder if Luv was a Nexus 9 or 10, Joe as well? They both seem to be much stronger and more resilient than the Nexus 6 of the first movie. Also, will we ever get a definitive answer as to whether both Rachel and Deckard were Prototype Nexus 7's with human lifespans? We see here Replicants were eventually intended to become Blade Runners themselves... But if Deckard is a Replicant? That would take a lot away from how incredible it is that he and Rachel had a child...
I think Luv lost because of her greatest flaw: hubris. She constantly berated K, calling him dogs etc., did that little conqueror's kiss without finishing him off.
Definitely 9 or 10. The replicant in the opening scene is a Nexus 8; his prototype is shown on display in an early scene. And K easily outperforms him with an upset win.
Fuck i fucken love this movie. Originally would play it at night to lull me to sleep but few nights it got my attention and it was game over. Soooo sooo good and meaningful
All of that could have been avoided if it had killed him on the first attack in the big palace lmao, that’s why i stopped watching after the scene where she let him live
