We Don't Talk About Elliot Rodger: A Response to Stefan Molyneux | Big Joel 

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The problem with the ‘redistribution of women’ thing is that, and I know this’ll shock you new leftists out there - women aren’t a resource. Women are citizens. When you’re talking about resources, you don’t talk about distributing women, you talk about distributing TO women. Same as men.

@@kitwhitfield7169 Why would that shock anyone on the left?

Dat Fishe Boi It wouldn’t, I was joking. Text-tone strikes again, I guess. :-)

Yeah what Molyneux pushes with the redistribution thing reveals the way he looks at women moreso than it is a statement which gives us some truth about leftism. As Kit said women aren't a resource, they're sentient beings and citizens and Rodgers' manifesto isn't based on some egalitarian society but on a perspective where only some human beings can/should be treated as human.

stilltoomanyhats Quite 😏

gonna be 100% honest with you, lots of people genuinely believe this to a T, people who generally align themselves in exactly the same ways as stefan molyneux.

Oh mY GOD YOU’RE RIGHT

Daaaamn

Oh god, don't make me wanna die

Well I hate to inform you of this, but there's around a 50% chance you are gonna kill a bunch of people! As long as you didn't go to summer camp...

Clearly you wouldn't have been casted in "Back To the Future."

My mom gave me the "sex talk" when I was 24. It consisted of two sentences. "Use a condom. I don't care what she says." Fortunately, I didn't turn out to be a mass murderer, despite once going to camp.

@@Odinsday are you calling theo's mom a blabbermouth? KEvron

lol

Dibs

Also annoyingly ignoring the fact that if a crime comes with a political manifesto, it is inherently political to begin with.

Don't use the victims as a tool for politics even though that was the murderers purpose

Many men grow up in toxic environments but don't become rapists or harassers. Yet, I don't think it's unreasonable to suppose how we raise boys has an impact on their choices regarding women. The personal responsibility element can be present while also acknowledging the causal influence of social factors. Now, Molyneux is just plain wrong in what he identifies as causal factors, but wouldn't there still be causal factors worth investigating?

@@spennyb89 Yes it's worth investigating, but by actual psychiatrists, psychologists and detectives, and not by political demagogues, professional misogynists and single-digit IQ Internet comments.

Because they have something to lose.

@@ottojarvonnen2455 No they are just sane

@@ravedubin3983 Keep telling that to yourself if it lets you sleep better.

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@@johannageisel5390 I think the point was more than just the sarcasm. I feel it was saying while, yes, Hitler had experienced trauma and abuse, the issues we have with him as a person are primarily political, seeing as his motives were in massive part political in nature. So even if the reason he went the extra mile is due to experiencing trauma, it was still also his political ideology that gets us to the point where he even targeted certain groups.

​@@muntu1221 Miller argues, that the rumour that the father of Hitler's father was a Jew, did contribute to the antisemitism Hitler either grew up with or developed on his own. I think, ideologies and the psychological setup of a person are not strongly divided. If you're being raised to develop a compassionate nature, you will hardly be drawn towards an ideology that excludes groups of people.

@@johannageisel5390 I'm aware that ideology is strongly rooted in one's personal experiences, but what I'm trying to say is that it would be dishonest to say his actions weren't political in nature simply because you can find a personal reason as to why he may have done it. He still used politics to justify it and garner a massive following that were more or less okay with carrying out his will.

@@johannageisel5390 If I remember correctly Bismark remarked that the Franco-German war he presided over was won by "the Prussian teacher," the same teacher later leading Germany into WW1 and WW2 but not finding as easy a punching bag for his pupils makes a lot of sense and puts a lot of things in perspective. I also agree with you that these kind of things should be mentioned more often, even if it would be probably less about your kid becoming a nazi and more about your kid being mentally healthy. A psyche that consciously understands why nazism is wrong but is subconsciously drawn to it is not great for your happiness and productivity.

Hey, if you don't like school, you don't have to be apart of this school. And if you don't like the opposite gender...you don't have to be apart of this family! 🤗 Equality

Ansa Seppalainen are you done

Mechanical Junkie I wouldn’t wish that fate on my worst enemy.

@Mechanical Junkie Thanks for trotting out your bigotry for all to see.

@Mechanical Junkie Poor Stefan! So discriminated against. So downtrodden. Such a wonderful person. Bwaaaaaa.... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-lVQOLX1wDAc.html poor white person

Aged badly the food stores are leaving areas with those so called starving people

Funnily enough blaming the mom is pushing the personal responsibility on the mother.

@@strawberrysshortestcake2781 no conservative ever said that lol.

@@theragoooverlord5021 Whew, swing and a miss, buddy

@@whompronnie great you finally caught on and seen the error of your ways. I'm just glad I could help.

or maybe it's because you are a neurotypical person who can handle stress better than he does. Seriously, stop trying to compare yourself to someone who committed suicide. It's obvious that you don't got a clue about how severe his mental illness was.

@@vice2versa Committing suicide is one thing. Killing people before you do it is another.

I hope you're feeling as good as one can be now ❤

so no cognitive dissonance towards logic and fallacies of logic. Sorry for your experience with abuse.

@@madra000 it isn't so much that the dissonance doesn't happen. it's that i acknowledge and challenge it. If i meet someone and they remind me of my abuser i might feel like putting up a barrier and judging them. when i have that feeling i then remind myself of what is actually making that connection. It could be something like they are wearing a similar clothing style or an inflection in the way they talk but unless the similarity is in how they are being actively abusive i tell myself "they are not my abuser" and honestly that really helps. abusers aren't defined by sex, race, religion, or idk music preference. Abusers are defined by the abuse. Working from a place of being abused really requires that we make those steps to learn that. if we don't we can become immobilised by ungrounded fears based on generalisations. Thats a losing situation. if i feared anyone who had something in common with someone whe did something bad to me then there would probably be nobody in the world left to trust. And you see some people doing that. They were abused by a man and now they fear everyone born with a penis including trans women. it isn't healthy and enabling that fear hurts them and hurts everyone. we can understand the cause of someones fear whilst reassuring them that they are safe and that the fear isn't what keeps them safe.

I'm surprised he even managed to create any children considering how disgusted he is by women....and their VAGINAS!

@@jdprettynails his racial imperative to procreate is too strong, or whatever. But yeah, dude's a huge misogynist by even the most forgiving definitions.

@@BewegteBilderrahmen It makes me wonder how or why some people accept their partners' extreme sentiments, even at their own expense. Maybe his wife was just desperate to be married and she doesn't really care what he thinks about anything. Who knows?

@@TheMorganVEVO Some people internalize bigotry directed towards them. It's possible that she feels the same way about herself as her husband does about her.

@@TheMorganVEVO Hm, I may be able to answer it, as I am in a similar situation. I've been in a relationship for a few months now, and he only recently told me about his sympathy for incels and their hatred for women, since he apparently used to think the exact same way as them before meeting me. I still choose to be with him, because I fell for his personality and the experiences we've been through, not his views. (It's much more complicated, but that stuff's personal and no one cares.) But! His views have been progressing and are taking a turn for the better. He even loves to watch the occasional Contrapoints video with me.

And making him relatable and imitatable by every lonely kid out there, as 95% of his complaints are just normal kid things.

Hey, that's apolitical. His ideology could be anything, repeating it isn't a political act. It's a factual statement about a news event, and things can only be one thing, not two. That's why the people on the left are only making political statements and not reporting facts about the news event.

Timothy McLean *-Smoothest Brain on the Internet* I truly hope you’re just being satirical, though. I hope.

@@DarkSideOfTheBrightSide I hoped I exaggerated and self-retorted enough to make that clear.

Timothy McLean Lol touché

@ i'm not particularly fond of conservatism but i did say 'hyper conservative' + 'misogynist' for this purpose. I recognize that stefan is not representative of conservative people

She's doubtlessly joining a large crowd throughout history.

@@malgorzatawojtys9846 Yes, we already said he's hyper conservative and misogynist.

can we get her a relief fund or something: :(

Just gotta hope his weirdly positive beliefs about hands-off parenting he (maybe used to) have affect his parenting. Idk exactly what he believes anymore, but his whole thing used to be about how much he hates parents pushing onto children. That's what he got his early following from.

You go girl.

A sense of nuance like these is what keeps you away from the equally just as psychotic "#killallmen" types.

Jesus Christ, if this ALL actually happened to you, you should consider therapy.

@@acommenter3939 Yeah maybe she should.

@@acommenter3939 "if." Tell me you've never listened to any woman ever without telling me you've never listened to any woman ever. This is common basic shit that everyone who is or is mistaken for female goes through.

It is a nice sweater.

Indeed...a very cozy sweater and A+ audio!

Big Joel always is wearing a sweet ass sweater.

Lol'd so hard at this

Absolutely destroys virgin Eggman.

I mean I know this is an ironic joke but the man literally said "All of the cold hearted jerks in the world came out of the vaginas of women" lmao he is beyond parody

@Anna Dayton - His mother tried to kill him? That's explain a lot.

@@stigma2936 Tbh, if I was his mom, I would absolutely advocate for the right to have an abortion even after birth.

I mean, at least one woman was responsible

What broke my brain was the "your dad was an asshole because your mother chose him". Like, what? So if a _nice guy_ happens to get a girlfriend, he magically transforms into an asshole that very second? Wha… how … why … Also, wouldn't that make Stefan an asshole, because some woman apparently chose him and even had a child with him?

What the fuck has he done admirably? Literally the opposite. Definition of CUCK.

“All it takes is one bad day” -Joker

​@@CCROGGY we live in a society

No One can debunk the rodge

@@CCROGGY There are a shit ton of people who live through pretty bad days on a near daily basis and none of them become murderers. 💀

This is so true

No he says things that are MUCH worse lol

He called a can of pasta “feminist virtue signaling” because it had supergirl on it

@@cryo311what a dork

​​@@xafilmbyx Complete malding dorkass loser

He actually doesn't. His philosophy is based around the idea that all evil in the world is tied down to bad mothers who have sex with "bad men" and make bad children. He has gone onto Taylor Swift and other famous women's twitters to admonish them about having careers while begging them to settle down to produce more offspring before their "uterus' become unviable." To Molynaux women are a means of producing men. All women can be divided into good categories: women that make good mothers vs women that make bad mothers. The most important thing a woman can do is marry a good man and produce good sons.

@@iannordin5250 Thank you for the summary.

@@TheRedRaccoonDog ​ Ian Nordin You're both stupid and I don't even like Stephan.

@theclubvids “You’re stupid, why? No reason. Good day” What a great retort, biggest brain ever

Od dacity Bro look at his videos, dude is legit insane

I wonder if Stephan would take that same policy with transgender people, treat them as they want to be treated otherwise it's another straw on the camel's back.

Joel: "I'm not saying it's misogyny. But it's misogyny." Two different flavors of absolute garbage. They're both picking over the ravings of a disturbed teenage boy and claiming it needs to be taken seriously because 'muh narrative.'

@@The_Mighty_Fiction what alternative to the "narrative" would you give oh mighty centrist.

@@annhilator55 Do you honestly need to be told _another_ fairytale rather than attempt to comprehend this on your own terms?

@@The_Mighty_Fiction ah the copout route, how masterful. You know when a dude goes on about how he hates women, then attempted to murder several, then because he wasnt able to just turned his gun on anyone he wanted i'd imagine that yes misogyny is at play. The whole "mentally disturbed" thing, is a copout which puts the blame on some internal mental issue rather than the acts of a lucid individual who chose to do an act of violence.

I noticed a lot of serial killers do this too. Even if they also have an incredibly abusive dad in the picture, they still blame their mom and it’s like 🙃

@@Sarah-re7cg In a patriarchal society, men think they are entitled to make all the decisions, that includes attributing blame to whomever they feel like for bad decisions or unmet expectations. Women are an easy target in these systems due to being socialized to accept abuse and injustice and having disproportionate expectations to protect their families. Incels are just contributing to the cycle and getting mad when it works therefore making the world worse. They don't want partners, they want punching bags to reproduce with continuing the cycle with their own kids (kid witnessing abuse and carrying it out in their own relationships).

@@Sarah-re7cg well you need to consider how having an abusive dad led them to internalize the world, I imagine it would twist your thoughts about what is supposed to be the case as a coping mechanism

@@eVill420 there’s a fine line to dance there. Not all misogynists are products of trauma and not all products of trauma are misogynists. They can be both raging misogynists and products of trauma. Usually they use trauma as something to hang their misogynistic hats on.

Heinz Guderian that’s the thing. He doesn’t think he did anything wrong.

But... but Elliot was a NICE GUY!

Now sir I do declare that this is a straw man, buT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE EGG MAN!!!

See, the reason he says this is because to Stephan, the distinction the between a 'good' and a 'bad' man comes down to skin colour...

Clearly this mass murderer was only bad because no supermodels fucked him.

bach pham that's not something Stefan would say, because the employee wasn't explicitly said to be a woman!

@@mothdoc1909 But they were probably poor if they worked at Subway. I'm sure poor people are partly to blame.

I am glad that some people listen to the always questionable ideas of Molyneaux and virtually nobody reads the idiot jokes you write.

I mean, don’t tell me you can’t imagine Elliot Rodger writing one or two paragraphs in his manifesto about how some female Subway employee looked at him funny when he corrected her on getting his order wrong

"There's this assumption in fast food, and in society at large, I think, that everybody must like pickles. And what if you don't like pickles? Well, you have to ask. (fake laugh; next part said with weirdly angry grin) You have to ask them to remove the pickles and, frankly, they should remove those pickles because not everybody likes pickles in their sandwich! (expression grows serious) And then, and then, what if they don't? Even after you ask? That local Subway that you trusted has let you down. There is this, this highly insidious undercurrent, I'd say, of alienation."

whenever he talks about soumaya it's just like BREAKING: raging racist misogynist didn't like an African woman that's more successful than he

That was my thinking when this manifesto came out, like...how much of this tripe can we REALLY take at face value??

It definitely comes across as weird for Molyneux to sympathise with every single trivial complaint rather than dismissing it as self-centred whining. I wonder how he would have approached this if Rodger was a woman.

"I started chatting with my daughter when she was still in her mother's womb for heavens sake" Hearing is kind of key to understanding.

A good visualization of how alt-righters present themselves as correct just because they present as calm and reasonable even when saying the most abhorrent and incorrect things

@@adamweisshaupyeah he’s saying he spoke to his kid from the earliest days… so is his suggestion that the parents didn’t ever talk to their child, and this is why he couldn’t admit his sexual fantasies to them? Apart from being bizarre that would also be false even based on the manifesto

That's basically him. Lol. I remember watching one of his videos years ago in which he interviews a woman simply because she wasn't a single mom. That's literally it.. I guess it's such an accomplishment to him that it warranted a whole interview.

Yeah, really. The man has some serious parent complexes.

It usually is though

Stefan, go away

@@Manorjames sorry you dont like the truth, it's just a fact that stefan fires off hard cold facts that people dont and opportunists without original thoughts like this channel simply appeal to that offended group to gain views and subscriptions.

It's "I'm not racist, but" to the third power

Absolutely.

“...but I am an empiricist!”

Thank God Elliot Rodger is at least half white! 🙄 Well, AND had pale complexion. If this was a half white/half black man I kiiinda doubt he'd be so kind. (I'm just spitballing though LOL... wouldn't want to imply ole Stephen might just be a tad racist now would I!)

@@AnHeC decades of research that has been disproven decades ago? You're categorically wrong, sit with that.

That's pretty crazy huh

It’s because he wants to do what Elliot did so badly. He thinks women are going to destroy the entirety of western civilisation, the same western civilisation that gives him so much privilege and income.

Caesar Speaks don’t forget “western civilization” is a dog whistle for the whites which he considers superior

@@wooogie672 Oh so there's no such thing as "western civilization" now? Is it just a dog whistle?

@@itsspaceboi I mean.... kindof? For the vast majority of history western europe has been far from homogeneous enough to consider one single civilization. And if you consider all of europe western then it becomes even less so. It's like saying Russia and Japan are both part of Eastern Civilization. Like, fucking how? Other than them both being to the east of europe how are they anything alike.

*Puts face up to stomach* "Listen here, darling. When a man of sufficient means meets a woman of optimal sexual market value, they will perform an unspeakable act involving the genitalia. This will cause new life to spring forth. This life will be forever stained with the insoluble birthmark of the mother's iniquity."

@@john.james.110 if only i could upvote this post twice

When a man talks to a baby inside a mother's stomach it's absurd, when a women does it its healthy and beneficial to the child. I'm perceiving some bias in your comments.

@@Caddyleadz only if that woman in the mother, otherwise it is just as worthless and weird an endeavor. the fetus is not capable of understanding speech and through the noisy moving body of it's mother it reasonably cannot hear much if anything. if the mother is doing it then the mother is receiving some sort of (hopefully) positive stimulation and which could conceivably be passed on to the child hormonally though to be honest that is a generous opinion. likely its no different from if someone outside of the mother spoke to the fetus which is to say it's not for the fetus' benefit so much as it is for the speaker's also molyneux is creepy and weird and the joke is that he would be no less creepy and weird to his unborn child than he would to any other female person

@@technopoptart he was making a joke about making sure to talk to your children at a young age... Witch hunts should only happen in 3rd world countries. This is what passes for weird and creepy in 2019? Have you seen the freaks out there......

Stefan is _everyone's_ crazy uncle.

I get a little sick every time I'm reminded Molyneux has a daughter. That poor girl.

@@jeffengel2607 me too. I literally forget because it's so awful. Same with Philip/Sargon of Akkad. It's like traumatic memory. My brain uncontrollably blocks it out of my consciousness to protect itself... until I'm occasionally reminded and have to vomit all over again.

Haha that's funny but you know that's not what he said We can take apart arguments without inventing comments

How does Stephen Molyneux sleep at night knowing he is contributing to the destruction of our great civilization by bringing into the world such an evil and shameless creature. 🙄 For shame!

​@@carninuz1 I'm aware that he actually meant that he was just talking to her in general, not talking specifically about sex. It's still a good example of how careless he is with his words and how creepy he is in general. Also, I'm not trying to take apart his garbage arguments, I'm just making fun of him.

Elliot rodger was not white. He was half Asian

@@johnnyspin6346 nobody said that he was white?

@@johnnyspin6346 don’t need to be white to be white supremacist. My family is Asian and still acts like white men are the best thing in the world sometimes. It’s astounding

Nice

He was as much white as he was asian. Half.

You're a woman lol. You've always been liked by boys.

@@lukebruce5234 we arent just women, were people. people who (just like you) have been liked and disliked, have been loved and hated. whoever is convincing you that we arent fully human is lying. theyre trying to make you more isolated from us, trying to use our natural instinct to tell you to fuck off as proof that we could never understand you. so please, re-evaluate the choices in your life that made THAT your first response here.

@@jellysecret what the fuck are you even talking about

@@lukebruce5234 You really think all women are just automatically "liked by boys" for their entire lives? More importantly, you think being "liked by boys" somehow removes the trauma from all traumatic experiences? You are fucking delusional, and you sound like Eliot. Annika is right - I don't know what caused THAT to be your knee-jerk response, but it's appalling.

What makes you think your life was anything like Elliot Rodger???? were you as severally mentally screwed up like him??? were you suicidal to the point that your life and anything you did no longer mattered??? were you severely bullied to the point you had to move schools??? did you have severe social anxiety disorder that made every single social interaction extremely painful and embarrassing???? Did you care and obsess over every detail about peoples thoughts about you to the point it caused extreme pain and hatred??? you are most likely a neurotypical person so you really shouldn't be comparing your life to Elliot Rodger just so you could make some weak attempt at a self righteous argument.

Theoretically he is technically correct. For as long as we have had societies we have had empty vessel sociopaths/psychopaths. If you want to understand why he did what he did look to McVay, or the Canadian dude that tried to copy Dexter. They had nothing in them so they let society fill them up. That was never enough so they killed.

@@Giganfan2k1 They're serial killers.

This would be so pants-pissingly hilarious if it weren't actually true.

men like Stefan really would blame anything but maybe Elliot Rodger just hated women

Sum Arbor McVeigh wasn’t a psychopath, he was an anarchist with very clear and stated motives.

@@cosmicraynullificationsqua7667 Only if they're offered good legal protection.

@@theviewer6889 Hookers earn enough to pay for their own protection and human trafficking would still be illegal. I know girls who have panic buttons linked to a security firm.

@@cosmicraynullificationsqua7667 I support decriminalization of sex work, but that wouldn't have helped in Elliot Rogers' case: He wanted to get it for FREE, because he had such an overblown sense of entitlement. And what if a sex worker turns down a guy like Rogers, because she can smell the evil on him? (A lot of pros develop a veritable Spidey-sense!) He would just have felt entitled to murder sex workers, as many assholes feel already...

@@Galvion1980 I think it's not fair to distance yourself from people by saying they're evil, as if you wouldn't turn evil if we pushed some buttons on ya

@@FreddieGonza Yes, every action a person undertakes is a result of "buttons being pushed". Nobody bears any responsibility for their own actions. Everything is everybody else's fault. Your argument is impecable. You are very smart. Why are you so offended by me calling a murderer evil? If you assume I would commit murder if you were to "push my buttons", whatever...you're in no position to do so. Why do you have so much more sympathy for a killer than his victims? I've had a whole lot of my buttons pushed in my life (abuse, bullying, assault, you name it) and yet, I have not murdered anyone. And I didn't grow up wealthy and spoilt like Sad Boy Elliot. Wow, I must be a real saint! Or maybe I'm just a halfway decent person who understands a few baselines of human civilization, like...murder is wrong!

He doesn’t look like someone who would worship him

Yeah, it's obvious that Elliot was a privileged narcissist that acted like everyone was out to get him whenever something didn't go his way. The summer camp story for example is basically just "boo hoo, my parents made me go outside as a kid instead of letting me play video games inside all summer"

@@thespiceman9367 And, as was pointed out in this video, he _liked_ summer camp-just like his parents believed that he would.

Honestly I can take him at his word because his childhood sounds genuinely solid for the most part.

Typically a agenda is informed by opinion.

The political agenda is? That Hollywood is mostly filled with left-leaning people (fact) and that Elliot Rodger targetted people based on their race (fact) and gender (fact). Those are just facts. What can you refute it with?

@@Rellikan ummm.. And none of that had anything to do with the post.. Need to work harder at changing the subject.

@@byronnotbryon8605 Not changing the subject. Stefam was focusing on the straws that created the horrible person that is Elliot Rodger. That is not disrespectful. If you went to the original video you would find that one of the parents of the victims actually posted a thank you comment about it.

And you missed the point that he pushed his polictical beliefs as straws after saying liberals shouldn't push their beliefs in conjunction with his manifesto.

Tsukiru I wouldn’t be surprised if Onison was a murderer.

@@saladman420 Onision isnt a murderer because he is too busy grooming under aged girls instead.

Lol it sounds like you don't want to offend Elliot by comparing him to Onision

@@blupeppers6437 welcome to the joke

@@blupeppers6437 you could literally offend Satan by comparing him to Onision

i feel like transing your gender does solve alot of problems unknown to you in your adolescence

That's the thing, none of Elliot's described life experiences are super unusual. Many people have messy and frustrating romance (in)experience when they're teenagers. Many people will have some unpleasant moments at summer camps. Many will be confused by the rigid structure of elementary school. There's nothing special about all this.,

There's a difference between catering to a child's whins and their actual needs

You're still blaming women for his behaviour.

@@cleargreen123456789 That was precisely my thought.

I don't see the hypocrisy here. I mean i don't like Stephanie Mollynox. Elliot Roger was an Asian kid dude

@@itsthatsebguy93 Really? Well there will always be those who don't want to see.

Walrus Guy those are some impressive imaginary facts you made up p.s. “white” isn’t a race or ethnic group and therefore are logically incapable of having genocide committed against them except in nation-level or culture-level subgroups independently (e.g. genocide can be committed on Norwegians, but not on “white Western people”) and that’s the least of the stupidity and lack of education in your comment... I’m not sure you said a single correct thing outside of accurately quoting the UN (just before misreading then)

@Walrus Guy Well, if you don't give them job contracts how do you want immigrants to pay taxes? If they have to hide for the fear of being separated from their kids... How do you want them to pay taxes? That's hipocresy.

@Walrus Guy Man, white people are so dramatic, calling genocide just because some people dont want to fuck them and taxes lol. White genocide is a myth my dude, no one is forcing white people not to have kids, it's just our definitions of what is "white" naturally results in the "white" population shrinking because people with only one white parent are often not considered white themselves.

0noregrets0 every time stefan talks i’d like to give him a damaging male experience (ง’̀-‘́)ง

@@johannageisel5390 Stefan is the 30-50 feral hogs you need to defend your children from.

@@zachjollimore4339 Yes.

@0noregrets0 got you to 666 likes. You're welcome. Hope you enjoyed this positive female experience!

@@johannageisel5390 "I have impulse control, but the feeling is still there." Well, deep inside you are evil. This is also why you are a leftist. Leftist secretly love violence.

Most incels always scream how great they are, how much they have, how great of a catch they are..but when you look at them and their history. They do not have great PERSONALITIES, they want women to be beneath them. Most women are not going to be with feeling less than in a relationship.

I don't think this is accurate. If we figured out some bad thing happening in space, he'd probably find a way to blame women for that too.

@@Clawdragoons you got me there.jpeg

Molyneux lives in my country, and it makes me sick that he uses Canada as a base for his promotion of hate, especially against women, who are usually called SJWs or "feminists," immigrants, even though he is one, so non-white immigrants, and other targets of fascism. He incites violence against these targets. We had never had a mass killing in Canada before the alt right and Trump era, with it's endorsement of racism and other forms of hatred. Already we have had two mass killings, both by white men who learned their hateful right wing propaganda on line. fuck the free speech of fascists and others who obviously don't believe in free speech except for themselves. If mass killings can be prevented by banning right wing hate sites then so what? Free speech doesn't cover conspiring to murder people and destroy democracy.

@@generationofswine-ge5rw "He incites violence against these targets" Example please...

@@generationofswine-ge5rw We had a them before Trump, you must be young.. there were a bunch back in the 80's.

One time out of ten is because they _are_ the shooter.

@@rickrolld1367 I don't think that's how that works lmao

Some die at 22

@@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259 thank you, LeafyIsHere Funny Moments Fan Channel, very insightful.

@@buldermatts2968 lmaoo. Bro can't even read

The fact that most people who are abused are able to overcome it doesn't mean that most people who are criminals weren't influenced by abuse

His points always seems to fall flat on their face for me.

Wait... isn't this my internet history teacher just commenting?

Virto Erto it’s always interesting to see that about half of the prominent RU-vid historians are reasonable leftists and the other half jerk off to the idea of re-creating empires.

He's a pig.

Yeah...but did he win that gold medal with a broken freakin' neck? (That's a wrestling joke. Don't worry if you don't get it.) 🤣

Except that wasn't what Stefan was saying in his presentation.

@@kestrelraptorial689 It is what he's saying. The rest of us just blinded by Moluneux bullshiting like you

@@robertrulebirtannia Alright, perceive things that way . . . and watch your own family descend into a downward spiral. If I look at your videos side-by-side, or one after the other, Molyneux made his arguments and defended them far better than you did.

Kestrel raptorial look at other videos also Reach out to a wider discussion You might change your mind Might not But be open headed

@@ussishkingang7194 I'm ten steps ahead of you. I did watch other videos around the time of the event itself, some from people saying much what you said, another good commentary by PsychologyinSeattle, and some interviews with the father himself. After all that, I still say Stefan Molyneux had the best, most comprehensive insight.

great point for stefan’s video to be honest, he’r need to count up all the reasons that Elliot cared so much about gender & politics beliefs and add each of them to the straw pile

Ah yes the racist misogynistic whackjob killed all those non-white people and women because them god damn *LIBRULS*

but what if the victims explicitly ask for it?

*inceldom

YEAH GET EPICLY ROASTED LIBTARDS, LIBERALS HAYE BLACK PEOPLE RIGHT? Honestly though fuck off with these politics, if anything he was an incelble

I always jest that the problem with the right is that they hate liberals for the wrong reasons, and Stefan is a prime example of this (Sorry to any liberal in the comments, but y'all are stinking with centrist vibes XP).

@brandon roberts It does. The materials are there, all you need are people motivated enough to take those to the extreme. Those motivations however often comes independent of said materials. 'Oh, the west is responsible for your misery, let's go teach them a lesson.'

They don't really believe that. If they did they wouldn't bother spreading their ideology. It's just an excuse they make to distract people.

Facts don't care about their delusions.

@@LimeyLassen no, most of them believe it. The inconsistency is lost in them, and the fear of the other is very intense and pathological. They don't think themselves into these positions, but they aren't faking it.

They believe it, but they refuse to admit its THEIR ideology the one that gets people killed. So they have to invent ways to twist everything

Except that Elliot didn't blame only women, he wanted to get revenge on the entire world, and when he killed people most of his victims were men. That kind of comments actually prove how far the misrepresentation goes when "women" are the topic or receive the same treatment.

​@@akunan4989 Except he did hate women. Are you capable of logical thought? He outwardly professed his hatred in a full-on manifesto. Him being a bad shot and not getting the targets he wanted doesn't negate his hatred or his intentions. Why are men like you always trying to derail the conversation away from women who are victims? Go take a shower.

@@akunan4989Elliot was trying to break into a sorority house and shoot all the women in there. When he failed to get in he killed whoever. He also murdered his roommates. Misogyny hurts men too as evidenced by this tragedy.

​@@akunan4989He literally wrote a manifesto explaining his motivations. Why are you here

@@autismworldtravel And that happened after he stabbed three men on his apartment. That's blatant cherrypicking from you. It's not misogyny because he hated everyone. You have no reason you to put the emphasis on the "women part" of his misanthropy, other than, due to bias, you consider it worse.

THANK YOU! I was thinking the exact same thing! Rodger is an unreliable narrator, period, and for Stefan to take it at face value either shows an incredible lack of forethought OR a calculated oversight to push his own agenda. I don’t know which would be worse.

On point

This 💯 He wrote the narrative that got him to his actions, so picking through it and 1) using to find the reason for his crime and 2) taking it all at face value is isn’t exactly adding value to that conversation.

Apparently you have magic powers where you can read minds

@@bangarang3810 Nah it's just called text analysis.

ravioliandsalsiccia what are you trying to say ?

@ravioliandsalsiccia No. Elliot Rodger has as much of a free will as we do. The distribution of responsibility does nothing but whine; if not the parents, and in turn the society, and in turn, the cruel, cruel universe, would we all not be serial killers? Our understanding of sentience and accountability would never permit this: to believe otherwise is to attribute him to either the status of a god or subhuman.

@ravioliandsalsiccia Apparently women can't comment without being judged. Nice move. I'm not saying that he is not a product of his environment. I hold the belief that almost all that is human in us is nurtured and not nature; that the experiences we have are what define us. However, his murdering, his disgusting actions, should not be blamed on those around him. If they were, I'm afraid the judicial system would be quite the joke. It is not attributed on a whole to Elliot, though; his trauma, mental stability, and more than unhealthy habits can all be traced back to childhood incidents, but his actions are results of his own doing. A note: either the part I was responding to was deleted, or my sleepless nights have caught up to me, because that comment was a little bit out of place (and quite rude, sorry lol), and I honest-to-god do not remember writing or thinking about it.

The entire situation with Elliot Rodgers, much like every other spree killer, was a product of both nuture and nature. He was suffering from severe untreated depression, which is a common occurrence with spree killers in perticular. In almost every instance where a spree killer isn't apprehended or shot, the killer will take their own life, as that is ultimately the final goal of these types of mass murderers. They're fed up with the world and want to end it all, but take revenge against the world that they blame for their trouble in a final act of defiance. Most of what Elliot had gone through is the same ordeal hundreds of millions of kids around the world go through. Pretty much normal teenage angst and him being socially inept. He is a good example on how a privileged upbringing is ultimately meaningless if the parents have headass syndrome. His father in particular was one such case. Still, his mental fortitude was ultimately a result of nature and from an early age, if his manifesto is a credible source into his psyche, then he was always highly likely to develop mental issues. Children who show early signs on mental issues will almost always see these issues manifest in their teenage years, as the development of the brain and hormones is at its peak there. It was a circle of negligence, lacking observation of his parents, social isolation from his peers, his own highly agressive and apprehensive attitude towards people, weak mental fortitude and very possible undiagnosed behavioral disorders which caused him to commit his act. It was planned to a degree but a very impulsive and sudden decision, which is made evident by the way he executed it.

@ravioliandsalsiccia My little sister is a psychopath.. she was born that way. We grew up in the same half-decent home and had mediocre parents. There is this idea that psychopaths and sociopaths are some how not inherently evil, well they are inherently selfish aholes with zero remorse or empathy. They will sell you a happy "I'm capable of being a reasonable person" right up until they stab you to death. They love fools who will fall for their BS blame shifting and see them as redeemable.. easy prey.

You're not an idiot donotlendbookstome7923, you're not an idiot at all.

Well to be fair high school blazers are pretty enraging /s ((as in no blazers don't actually give me murderous intent, they were horrible tho))

Same

tehgrrl And insulting to real abuse survivors like yourself. "His mother woke him up early and told him he had to go to camp". Omg, what a monster! 🙄

He had to go on vacation to Morroco to stay in a mansion. Can't believe the suffering he went through lol.

Alex Bellington Abuse! Abuse!

Same 😩

that kind of dumb ass shit is exactly what mass shooters want. they want to be an "alienated young man" so that the rest of their movement enjoys the benefits of incel ideology in the mainstream. we will not let this be normal

Ah, i take from this comment that the wonderous stefán somehow manages to not Believe in trans people

@@defensivekobra3873 Considering the rest of his political beliefs, I would be absolutely gobsmacked if he had any positive opinion on trans people

@@samkuperman9035 yeah sounds about right

@@samkuperman9035 he doesn’t believe that trans people exist

@@samkuperman9035 I checked his Wikipedia article and the only thing I found was that the independent (news paper) called him transphobic

Hes a total dope when it comes to anything related to culture (which is nearly everything) But this is probably one of the more reasonable videos.. sadly, he continues to push away criticism that he always may follow.

stepon mypoo heheheh

Me neither.

Same

But, but, he says he's an empiricist!

I'm all about trying improving these issues ingrained in our culture, but these things are like... the most typical growing up experience of everyone I've every known or heard about.

"my parents made me have a few bites of my dinner because i have refused to eat all day, fucking fascists"

@@hamluk_ one of the biggest Men's rights advocates cites his first traumatic experience of his mother being evil was making him take diarrhea meds when he'd been having it for 2 days. They had to "wrestle it into his mouth" and he said he knew right then she was a rights-violating monster, like all women. So apparently making children take medication that keeps them from the hospital or death is also on their list of "awful things to do to a child".

If you read the manifesto Elliot was essentially spoiled rotten. I could never imagine having such a privileged upbringing.

@@nuriben7910 they reaped what they sowed

Et Tu, Aaron? I mean there’s a reason he’s called BIG Joel

The virgin stefan vs the objectively hot troubadour big joel

I'm pretty sure Stefan has a daughter, but I get the point of the post.

"Chad Big Joel" sounds like he will drop RU-vid for singing Jazz in a big band.

Anarchist Moose buddy it’s a joke

I wish he would just say it, it is so obvious, he is just as extreme as those mouth breathers on incel.me and r/braincels but instead he acts like some fair centrist.

He doesn't want to "make it political" when making it political would make his side look bad, but he's quick to blame the left and their talk of redistribution for Rodgers' entitlement. Also, like many right-leaning youtube "thinkers", he's quick to pass political talking points as "unbiased facts".

@@timmydirtyrat6015 no he just understand that nature and psychology of women unlike you dumb fucks

Lol agreed. Also the name of this video should be... Why Stefan is all alone in life.

to be fair the millimeters speak for themselves

Well, Elliot Rodger was half Asian. If we're really taking the "White supremacist" route, Elliot isn't the best poster boy for it.

@@Otakupatriot117 internalized racism 😌

He's too sucked into his worldview for that. All we can hope is that his daughter grows up emotionally healthy.

probably got worse since susan yeeted him from youtube :D

Yeah me too especially since he has a daughter

@@somebodyonce5976 I was just as deep as he part of this world of extreme hatred towards women, muslims and leftists. Nobody is beyond reach

@@caspermcgoangle975 dude what

ahaha that's exactly what I was thinking ahahaha

Nathan Shlapobersky, *confusion noises*

Noo Joe don't get terminated you're so sexy aha

@@violet5188 proper format

RIP Mumkey Jones

To Stefan, it's only a bad thing if liberals do it.

Thats because Stefan isnt exploiting Elliot, he is with him. Stefan is defending Elliot, that whole video is a essay about how is not Elliot fault, but of the people around him (mostly his parents)

@@FenixIzyuze That's even worse, but I'll accept the criticism.

@@FenixIzyuze murder for something that isn't self-defense is always the murderers' fault, nothing from mental health to bad childhoods is a cause for murder. It can be a explantation for why they thought/acted a certain way but no one pulls the trigger but themselves. Defending or blaming others them doesn't do any good cause it takes away the blame.

Facts don't care about their delusions.

It's intentional bad faith done in order to achieve straight cis white male supremacy.

Well you know what they say, reality has a liberal bias! 😂 (Of course, I wouldn't want to imply *objective truth* actually does exist and can be observed...that might sound "partisan" and I don't want to trigger any conservatives. 🙄

@@Lrripper GASP 😰 I thought liberals were all about tolerating different faiths! So much for the "tolerant left" huh 😂

Alex Smith I’m gonna quote this comment someday, thank you :)

And if your husband or child turns out to be a bad person thats your fault. Not theirs, lets not even bring up how they have control over their own lives.

@@brain_apostrophe_t besides the fact that your comment seems irrelevant to the point I made; That Stefan treats women as less than human. I would say all though no parent would eve be at fault they should be considered a factor. To say "parents play no factor in the way a person turns out" would be fallacious. And obviously the amount of influence parents have on their kids varies by case. But they certainly play a large roll in the development of the person typically.

@@Rawrbagels ??? They were agreeing with you by making a satirical joke

In the context of the video, I literally pictured him loudly giving the sex talk to a pregnant belly.

no wonder his wife divorced him and he allegedly can not see his child. that's why he's crazy and guess his wife left him because he was crazy, vicious cycle.

It's what made me click on the video

It should be.

elliot rodgers with a face is more nightmarish in my book

I don't get it. I think he's a much better lookin dude than me. Thinner than me. Not going bald like me. I know tastes vary from person to person because of opinions and all that... But I'm apparently way smoother with the ladies lol. I think his problem is that he was a stupid asshole...

@@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342 he was another entitled privileged brat who whined about not getting his way. if he had just stuck it out he'd have lived a normal life, probably with all the shit he actually wanted, thanks to his money. but he was too much of a whiny bitch to stick it out. how people idolize him is beyond me. listening to his manifesto is just... ugh! SO MUCH WHINING!

"I talked to her while in her mother's womb about sex"... goodness, I hope that Molyneux's daughter is okay.

Probably an estranged daughter by this point

@@LimeyLassen Well she's like 10 so not yet, but probably someday.

We should blame his wife for falling for an asshole.

Albirie the Blue She’s nearly at that age when girls get weirdly obsessed with witchcraft for a little bit

there is no professional help, it's just gaslighting

@@lukebruce5234 by professional help with mean escorts idiot

I only date prisoners because they’re such badass 😤🤤

@@tuumanka7974 BRB killing some people.

Have you ever noticed the guys that are angry women don't pick nice guys, aren't nice guys. They are always yelling angry men who talk down to women and wonder why we don't like them.

@@theluckypoptart2945 true story, my old best mate (who's now bitter and angry at the world) once blew his chance with an incredibly attractive girl at one of our Halloween parties by ranting for about an hour about how modern music is terrible and basically how he has superior taste to everyone. If you ever talk to him about it, she was just leading him on because she liked the attention, and she ended up hooking up with some meathead because that's what women are like. Somehow forgetting that she hooked up with our other mate, who is a really nice and cool guy, not at all a "bro" or anything. It's honestly staggering watching some people absolutely self-sabotage social encounters, and then listen to how they perceive it. There's such a disconnect between reality and the world they live in. I've been friends with enough "nice guys" now to know they're anything but.

@Black Pill Presentations no, the mix up is what nice is. Many people have issues knowing where boundaries are and what is socially appropriate behavior. I understand that. I'm autistic and there are many behaviors I don't understand why people do. I do understand we should do them though. "Nice" guys and girls think they are being nice but are often over stepping people's personal boundaries. Even when told they are making someone uncomfortable or scared they come off with you just aren't used to people being nice to you. Nice is respecting people boundaries. Nice is letting people get to know you at their own speed and not pushing. Nice is understanding that some just isn't into you for whatever reason and respecting that. Yes, I believe some people just play up their nice factor to get into someone's pants. Because why would it be love bombing at first. then when the person says no it's you're a dumb whore anyways or I didn't like your ugly ass anyways. If you're really a good person you don't have to tell everyone you're good. They know by your actions. Once these people understand boundaries, body language and respecting other people's space they usually end up in a relationship pretty quick. It's full just a lack of caring how others perceive actions and how it makes them feel. Just because you see something as nice doesn't mean it won't come off creepy to someone else.

I like the new look, though. It's less comfy but... I don't know how to put it. It radiates a certain smugness.

I like the cool element

My boi big Joel going big chair instead of big couch

I miss the days of the extremely wrinkled cream-colored bed sheet.

I miss the days of just voice over... 😆