@@bloodisfrightening1203 It was an old mafia trick of hiding bodies, when they buried people blood would seep up through the soil and alert people of what was there. So they’d use limestone powder and pour it over the body as it would absorb the blood and keep the body hidden.
i imagined doing this daily after 8 years on the nose grinder. i now work at a state park and couldnt be happier. away from people, i see nature every day and all of its beautiful creatures. (some not so much lmao) i am a hunter. dont mistake my comment for supporting PETA. i just respect my environment and the food given to me as a result.
the salesman did a wonderful job acting this scene, from the mocking and rudeness to the end where he's lying on the floor wailing like an injured dog.
I really agree with this, I wonder how many takes this scene took between both actors performances, the guy had to fluctuate the pitch of his voice multiple times and fake laugh the whole time while thinking about the morbid situation of somebody having a hot iron pressed against their face, and on top of that fake the pain accurately. Some actors are just cut from a different cloth.
I find that series like these have loads of great actors. Hidden gems really. Sopranos is great example. It's a shame the really good actors like this don't get the push. Guy was on point. Seem like one of them guys thet just has the balls to stand Infront of everyone and kill any role.
For anyone who’s worked in similar fields and professions, they’ll know that when someone snaps like this in the real world, this kind of fury was years in the making.
We saw a guy lose it like this and he attached a deers head to a stick and ran around the warehouse yard waving it at people. He had cancer and the staff were tresting him like dirt.
I feel like people are underestimating the power of his sales pitch. I would buy this mans entire inventory if it meant not having my face permanently scarred and my house destroyed. Fear can be quite the powerful motivator.
He also expertly demonstrated the fantastic amount of heat his product can produce, consistently, and in almost no time as well. If this iron can melt through the tough dermal tissue layers of an adult male’s stupid, bitch face with such ease than your clothes most stubborn wrinkles and creases stand no chance.
There are many brilliant actors too many to name, but Kevin Costner, Daniel Day Lewis, Clifton Gonzalez, Ethan Hawke, Forrest Whitaker and James Madison are some of my favourites. I always pondered before and wonder if others have though about this. Can anyone name 10 great actresses in the last 50 years? Kathy Bates I think is so underrated. Charlize Theron, Sigourney Weaver, Jamie Lee Curtis have had some great roles in movies, but we can sit there and name at least 30 great male actors, but females is tougher. Maybe its just me.
@@howardsend6589 exactly, I think he's rightly appreciated for his role in this series. He was pretty bad in Superman though. He seems quite 1-dimensional.
@@jingbot1071 that implication doesn't make sense. This is a youtube video comment section, people do not comment here because they think that anyone in particular cares, it is just a place where you dump your thoughts and let the people who read the comment section decide whether they care or not about what you wrote. Asking "who cares" as a means to undermine the relevance of any given comment in a comment section subverts itself (and displays the adressed lack of selfawareness), as it requires the individual's, who seeks to undermine the relevance, a priori to care enough to write actual comment.
Was me in high school. Was bullied for a while in freshman year by a group of bullies before one day they wanted to film their antics and I snapped. I remember glimpses of it but I only remember the aftermath of the kid in the hospital with a lot of injuries and a permanent disability due to the fight we had. I had a small scratch or two. I was suspended for a few weeks but not expelled as my family had legal pressure against the school administration when it was found it was because of bullying that I snapped. Was never touched since, and overall got good grades and made a few friends, some of whom I'm still close with over a decade and a half later today and game with.
@Ninjamohawk Yep. Friends and family 100% knew my position with what happened and sided with me even if I was a bit....brutish apparently. Still...life worked out all things considered. I did have anger issues for a long while but have since kept them in check very strongly.
@@Shyvorix I have had to deal with anger issues myself but I think mine wasn't from me being bullied at school, it was from feeling helpless to do anything about my step dad's physical abuse.
Yeah in highschool I was in a magnet school, most of my cousins are in gangs so I was the quiet weird kid and was afraid someone wrong would find out my family connections. I got jumped one day, fought back, got a decent name for myself as being scrappy. Best part is my dad forced me into MMA as a kid, it was maybe 10 years of training before I got to actually be in a scenario where it was useful. I kicked a guy in the thigh, he couldn't move right the whole day and the other guy tried to tackle me but I wrapped his neck and place his head behind me as I fell backwards onto his head, it's the only time I've K.O. someone and I thought he was dead (He woke up minutes later). Such a wild school, saw people get jumped, stabbed, shot, kidnapped, fight with their P.O., gang violence every day. The guys you fought one day would be having your back during a rival invasion the next. It was a magnet school in San Pedro, CA and it was right across the Thompson Bridge from Long Beach, almost weekly we'd have young gang members from that side come to our side and start fights (it was reversed too of course) if you weren't in a gang you clicked up with those at your school. You'd have racist white/brown/black people fighting together against an all latino gang some days. Thanks for the memories I forgot so much of that hahahaha. I am now a medical assistant that helps heal people, after all that I saw I just wanted to help heal wounds.
@@theinsolentlynx that was said yes, but before that the line "George, George, be reasonable" was said , I don't remember if it was the same character though
I haven't watched the show so I'm not sure exactly what the guy did, but if all he did was make fun of him a little bit, he didn't deserve to have his face burned with an iron.
At the end, Phil is not just bawling over the pain. He's bawling over the horrifying disfigurement of his smooth, chubby baby face - one of his prime selling assets. And even worse, over the death of his absolute social certainty: the conviction that no matter how far he pushed it - such as by waving a red flag at a bull again and again and AGAIN - he could always smile and wink and chortle his way out of the hole he'd dug for himself. You can see how the guys just love him for his special kind of magic, and how they wish they had that ability to kick somebody when he's down and make everybody laugh along with him. Looks like they might not be laughing so loud any more, and he might not be kicking down so much.
I suspect there is probably a long line of people from his past who would have loved to put that iron to him. He seems like a smug toadie who probably always had a school bully or boss at his back while mocking people. Karma.
I love seeing the look on such faces when these realize the guts sustaining them are perforated. No eunuch, no, WORM, you aren't "Sigma". Wail for me, you fat turd.
@@cringelord1809 is spot on... don't forget the context of cultural norms in the era. There was no such thing as teasing about somebody's spouse - if you went there, it was immediately expected that you'd get your jaw broken or worse. This dude got off lucky... he publicly asserted this guy could not screw and his wife needed a sex toy. That's the type of provocation that gets you unalive, to this day. Bullies always think they're "just teasing" but no - they're sociopaths we temporarily tolerate, but when they go too far yes indeed we give them a permanent sign to warn all others. A scarlet letter one could perhaps say... or "poked angry bear too many times and got bit, as was guaranteed to happen eventually". They act shocked when their victim suddenly strikes back, and not just for that one insult but for all of them. That's how it works... compounding interest is a real PITA bullies... heads up, or heads off :D
Michael Shannon is such an incredible actor. Definitely deserved an emmy for this character, Van Alden was one of the best parts of the show and had a super interesting character arc.
Was he? He was a deeply repressed religious nutjob who whipped himself, who had absolutely no impulse control and murdered his partner for no reason and cheated on his wife and got another woman pregnant, then didn't tell his wife even after the baby was born.
No he wasn't he murdered a guy, cheated on his wife, got the girl pregnant and made her stay locked up her entire pregnancy to protect himself. He was very much as bad as the rest of them but this scene was cathartic those bullies were duchebags
That is what makes him so interesting IMO, an insane , violent man, trying to lie to himself, deny his Nature, he is not Nelson van alden, the cheater and murderer he is mueller , a calm person, until he isnt.
That's horrible. No wonder he's bawling. Not only must the pain be intense, at the same time he has the creeping realization that he will now be disfigured for life. Bet it would be pretty hard to keep selling irons after that. Who knows, maybe he could channel it, "It's very effective, just look at the results!"
That fat piece of shit deserved every bit of it. He got a life lesson he'll never forget. Moral of the story: You see a guy who isn't in a good mood, leave him be. Don't push him to the limit.
People who say that are always the sort of chumps who work dead-end jobs in retail with no real future to speak of while their wives sneak off to get gangbanged because their husbands are always limp and can't satisfy them and their kids will grow up to be just as big of losers as they are. Precisely like the sort of hopeless toad you are.
Anyone a mile away can tell George is a ticking time bomb. Mess with the bull, gonna get the horns. I think we have all felt this way at some time during our lives. He throws that typewriter down like he means it, go George.
@@fredley33 Not a psychopath,but I appreciate your compliment 😉...the closer you are to being one the chances of you being successful and powerful are bigger
Yup, because words are worth ending up in prison over. People understand they're portraying a psychopath and people are justifying what he's doing. LOL
He wasn't exactly fighting back, it's not like that guy was attacking him physically, he was just annoying him. A better response would have been for Nelson to destroy him with his words rather than the iron.
@@D33Lux I'm not one of those guys who looks at a nutjob character and think "wow I want to be like him" just more in the way of "heh yeah I wanted to do that once or twice its kinda cathartic to see it in fiction"
@@rsfilmdiscussionchannel4168 If you've ever been on the receiving end of bullying and can't fight with words sometimes you want to use violence. Doubt the other guy would have known he was burned unless it was physically.
When someone tells you they "haven't been their best" and haven't been sleeping, perhaps you should take that cue to either give them some slack or leave them alone.
@IOwnTheSpire You're full of shit. image it was women doing that to him and he reacted like that.. you would have lost your way and spouting some bullshit about HIM not able to control himself. But since it's a male, somehow in your dumfuck head, it's just OK to hit/slap/burn in this particular case.
Pudgy was just too obnoxious and loud with his joking . Pudgy didn't understand the dictum , a little goes a long way. Stuff like this evolves into in your face bullying. I have never seen this but I have seen people like Pudgy take it too far and get a come uppance !
Just like all bullies... they scattered when their target fought back. During the tragic unfolding of Van Aldens story, there was at least this one supreme moment of satisfaction.
Van Alden has usually been one to have his emotions in check and remain somewhat rational in a tense situation, but here he is a savage. His coworkers could not have picked the worst person to joke around with like that.
The scary part is that there is mentally unstable people like that in the world. I always tell everyone don't go looking for trouble. That's why I NEVER get into altercations in public because you NEVER know who you're crossing, they could be a psychopath. I had many friends who were killed, some survived but with physical and mental scars. I tell friends don't get into fights in public, what are you trying to prove. If you have such a small ego then go to a boxing gym and have some guy knock your head around a while and see if you like it, but at least you're in a safe environment with rules. On the street its about survival, its not a fucking boxing ring. I don't start fights because I know I don't play by the rules and I walk away or apologize some may think that's cowardice, but I have extreme discipline because I know I'm capable of hurting someone severely even with weapons and I don't wish to live with hurting someone in this point of my life. An apology is easier than washing blood off your hands, and it may be your own blood.
@@UMOGrunt no OMITTING as is in not laughing with the rest of them, though he didn't show signs of anger either, even though he was obviously pissed as hell.
I would have done the same thing like let me demonstrate on your face if you wanna make such a joke out of it. See how it works, works on any surface 😂😂😂
That little maniacal smile he gives there at the end is priceless. This is where Nelson gets his first taste of dominance, power, and violence. A big turning point in his character.
@@danieldevito6380 Did you? Because up until this point he had been broken and cut off at every possible avenue. He had enough to bust Nucky in the first season but his boss told him no. Then when he got a new boss he almost busted Nucky again but his crime against his partner caught up to him. He had been utterly defeated and had given up. Then after this he started being more assertive.
What made it real for me, was that tiny crooked half smile of contempt on George's face when he realizes the man is lying on the floor, crying like the little baby he really is.
One of the many reasons people snap and lose their shit and go on a rampage. Society makes me feel this way sometimes, never give it anything to laugh or joke about at your expense. Give them an inch and they will take 10 miles. This scene hits close to home and it's well done.
Not taking yourself too seriously is also a good virtue too. Of course there’s a difference between bullying and banter - communication and boundaries helps with this. It’s obvious in this scene that the character is being bullied, but in reality not everything is a personal affront. Enjoy life brother ❤
A condecorated officer decides he had enought of his partner, and as a christian he decides to keep it real. From being a respected federal agent to ironing a man's face out. When keeping it real goes wrong.
Nelson Van Alden had probably one of my FAVORITE character arcs in this entire show (which is, in part, thanks to Michael Shannon’s incredible portrayal of him).
@@Maw0 I also really liked how they portrayed Al Capone on the show and sorta humanized him while also not shying away from some of the ugliness he was engaged in.
Shannon is amazing. LOVE that almost twitch of a one-sided smile at the end when he looked at the crowd hiding in the other room. It was just a hint of "yes, now you all know how this works when it goes too far."
Michael Shannon is just the best there is for this kind of role. The whole cast of Boardwalk Empire is exceptional. And it gets better and better with each successive season. Stephen Graham is the best Capone ever, seriously. Jack Huston as the maimed WWI soldier, Michael Kenneth Williams as Chalky, Bobby Canavalle as Rosetti and Michael Stuhlbarg (A Serious Man) as Rothstein, it's just an exceptional work in film. The first two seasons are pretty dark but then it just gets so good. Enjoy!
Michael Stuhlberg is just something else. Rothstein is simply terrifying, he's one of the scariest characters I've seen on television. He remains so calm and articulate, while being extremely dangerous. He was Homelander before Homelander.
@@juanjoyaborja.3054 You might enjoy "A Serious Man" in which Stuhlbarg plays a Jewish man trying to find the meaning for his life's issues. It's a great film.
Just by the LOOK IN HIS EYES after what he done, whatever gave them the idea "We should jump him, the 3 of us while he's in an Alley! that'll work out JUST FINE!" LOL
As a rule, a civilized man is far more discourteus than a barbarian because he dosent have to worry about getting his head split with an axe Robert E Howard
These commenters are pussies, its fiction. You see a man get pushed to the brink and he pushes back. A good punch to the face would have been more appropriate but yeah it was satisfying to see this make believe man hulk out. Bitch boys can report away.
