One thing thats interesting in the movie is that he wins BECAUSE hes injured and having a hard time. Everyone else is healthy, walk right in then get captured. He has to crawl, so he takes his time, ambushes them. Not sure if it means something, but its interesting
It's better viewed as the injury being an accidental blessing. His injury means the team performs the assault twice When he discovers their abandoned gear, he says to himself "so this is where it capsized," and takes an alternate route, knowing the first route is a trap.
I think it does mean something! Usually the disabled or injured in horror movies either serve as the aberrant/uncanny valley (especially disabled people w/ congenital disorders) or serve as sacrificial lambs. I think it makes it really refreshing to see a trope like that subverted, and see the creator acknowledge that disability and injury isn't a death sentence. I like that, especially considering how the horror genre usually has a really bleak (or outright ableist) view of disability and injury.
Thank you. That was me too. I cannot recommend this movie to just anyone. Looking down through the comments, I sense we are a bit unusual in that freak out reaction. I had to walk stop it and walk out a few times. It was just too much.
I’m sorry! The force of the diarrhea has torn right through my trousers! It must have been the steak volcano quesomacharito! I keep sh***ing! I can’t stop sh***ing! I’m literally sh***ing on Star Wars!
Me and a friend came across this movie randomly on a streaming service and saw the thumbnail and were like "Neat, Kurt Russell cowboy movie, let's watch that!" We were not prepared. That scene still gives me shivers.
It freaked meout a bit. The gore was realistically over the top. I've seen it a lot in Korean horror movies, like one Korean movie involving a lunatic chasing people down and murdering them with a hammer; it seemed too real to me.
I too didn't realize it was him at first, but kept wondering why he looked so familiar. Christ even David Arquette was good in this. But Michael Jenkins was my favorite by far.
yea his scene with the horse, so much emotion, i almost expected him to fall to the ground and hug the horse before he had to do it, the pain in his face was so real
Just a side note, Mathew fox’s character didn’t lose a wife and daughter to natives, it was his mom and sister when he was 10 years old. He specifically says in the movie “I’m the smartest one here” “smart men don’t get married”
He clearly wanted the audience to be annoyed with Matthew Fox's character. We might be satisfied to know his character was an involuntarily unmarried; like no woman could stand him enough to marry him. I just watched Bone Tomahawk. It kind of freaked me out. I had to stop watching it and walk out a couple of times. I don't recommend it for everyone.
@@troy3456789 I agree with you on not recommending it to everyone. I personally loved it and will probably rewatch it soon, but everyone has different tastes. For example Jay and Jim discussed those gross-out Italian cannibal films in this video, and those are movies that I absolutely will not watch since I have no interest in watching real animals being killed or the over the top exaggerated violence. Somebody could call me a pussy for that, but we all have different limits.
@@samlosco8441 Well sir, we do not get to control what we like and what we don't like and what makes us queasy. I have no rational explanation as to why my boredom meter goes up when I am presented with watching a romantic comedy to watch. A movie about gay men or if it has men kissing in it would also cause me to be nauseous. I have no idea why I like certain movies and why I do not like others; nor does anyone else. Also, I cannot stand sweet potatoes, no matter how much I want to like them. We don't get to choose what we like or don't like.
I've always thought the same thing. It's unfortunately been an uphill climb for me to be able to take him seriously as an actor bc they look so much alike. I think he's phenomenal, but it took ages for me to see anything other than Will Arnett. Same with Karl Urban and Adam Scott. Took me forever to mentally separate those two because the resemblance was so strong.
You're timestamp is appreciated, it helped me out in ways you couldn't imagine, Everytime you leave a timestamp, you feed 10 hungry children via butterfly effect. Sometimes though, you cause a typhoon in a 3rd world village.
I do kinda wish The Professor appeared in more than one scene. Zahn McClarnon is a fantastic actor (Fargo, Westworld, Longmire, The Son) and it would’ve been cool to have seen his tense relationship with Brooder explored more. Still a fantastic movie.
Agreed. He was great in the few bits he got. I also appreciate what he was there for, to set the troglodytes apart from normal Native Americans, but he felt a little too token. Having him be an actual character would have made it feel a little more sincere. On the other hand, the balance they struck with the group they ended up choosing was so perfect that I wouldn't want to upset it. That's the problem with having a cast this good, someone is going to end up with the short end of the stick.
First time I've seen any comment on here reference The Son, which is probably my second favorite show that came out of AMC, right after The Terror. Classic late 1800s, early 1900s western epic.
You guys are right about his DnD interest, he cited it as his inspiration for storytelling. I think there are elements to his films where that is directly visible, such as the group dynamic in Bone Tomahawk or the progression of the protagonist in Brawl in Cell Block 99. We actually shot a DnD campaign going through Bone Tomahawk and it works perfectly. His books are all fantastic also, I'm a huge Zahler fan, extended re:View's for his other films would be awesome
Yes! I was thinking how much the journey and story felt like I was witnessing a D&D campaign unfold in front of me. Thanks for making this point. I love you. Goodbye.
One thing I love about this film is that the town of Bright Hope is probably my favorite portrayal of a town in a Western yet. Everybody there, everybody feels like a real person - not a character. There's no set pieces to highlight how cool or badass the main characters are, no real fuss is made over anyone. It just shows them in every day life. It's pretty great, honestly.
Bone Tomahawk is an amazing film and one of the most underrated films in recent memory. Love that you guys are giving it a spotlight. The modern western genre keeps on gifting us with these gems.
So awesome to have the guys talk about this movie! I got to help do the special effects for the film. One of the best times ever, Kurt Russell is the coolest guy in the world!
I'm surprised that nobody points out how each of the lead characters represent the four horsemen of the apocalypse. I haven't seen any review that actually mentions that, with most just nodding to there being four riders and, therefore, being like an apocalypse. The Sheriff is War (organizes the battle), Brooder is Death (pale horse, killed hundreds), Chicory is Famine (poor, always hungry), and O'Dwyer is Pestilence (injury, later getting infected). It's not like it changes the movie to see all that, but it's just odd that it isn't pointed out in any reviews, on Wikipedia or even just in IMDb's trivia.
@@tamapajamas Just my observation, but little pieces of dialogue that aren't plot-specific, like Chicory begging for the sheriff's food, make it look intentional. I don't know how to fact-check it, but I'd sure love to hear if Zahler did it on purpose.
Interesting...thinking...thinking...that is a most excellent observation. If it ain't true, it ought to be. Seriously though, you might be on to something. Thanks for that.
What makes it kinda worse for me is the fact it's actually true that being split in half like that would keep you alive until the last moment as it makes all the blood rush to your head to keep you alive and conscious.
Craig Zahler, Robert Eggers, and Taylor Sheridan represent the next generation of America's finest writer/director talent. Of course, Zahler can claim one additional job title, because he does compose some cool music for his films. A modern day Carpenter.
Your list is missing Jeff Nichols. If you haven't watched his movies, I recommend you watch them all. Everyone is great. "Take Shelter," "Mud,", and "Midnight Special" are all good places to start.
I'm reading Wraiths of the Broken Land right now. Dude that first chapter with the dog made me put the book down for the rest of the night. A Congregation of Jackals was gruesome too but Wraiths is straight up cruel. .....Can't wait to read the rest of his books tho
Matthew Fox has always been a solid actor. He filmed on my college campus for We Are Marshall. He's the one who made that movie tolerable with his portrayal of Red Dawson, which the real Red Dawson called so accurate that it helped him cope with the tragedy depicted in the film.
@@jamesl4185 - He was apparently charged for drunkenly beating up a female bus driver (which were later dropped), but also charged for a drunken bar brawl and drunk driving. A feminist co-star on Lost would spin it as "beating the shit out of women" so if you're into that then whatever.
They touched on the dialogue, and the sorta subtle 'stage play/theatre' affect, but what makes a lot of this film work is the lyrical quality of the dialogue, the voices, and the exchanges. It really makes every scene possess a sorta thematically melodic tempo to it, that draws out the dialogue and pulls in the audience's ear. It's a lot of what makes this film work.
This part stuck to me even more than "that scene"... It's one thing to die horrifically, living in a prolonged torment like that is beyond nightmarish.
There is a genre for this, but not in film. It's western horror and "Bone Tomahawk" reminded me a lot of the old Robert E. Howard western horror stories. There was a lot of Lovecraft that bled through to Howard.
You should check out Joe Lansdale some time if you've not heard of him. He's done quite a lot of western horror, and is just a great writer all around no matter what genre he's dipping into.
I definitely got LC vibes from Bone Tomahawk, the Savages being so very very different from anything "civilised", what they did to their mothers... if there had been just a small hint towards Cho Cho people or something, I wouldn't have found it out of place.
@@pyenapple The Guy Pearce one? Kinda but definitely doesn't reach the heights of horror that it ought to, that one single chase sequence with the horrible music is kind of the biggest issue. The "licking" scene is pretty offputting but past that chase it's just kind of hard to take it seriously.
I know a couple of guys who worked with Craig K-something on the sound effects for Tomahawk, and they went through every iteration of every type of sound for THAT scene and it set the palette for the entirety of the movie in stone when they landed it, but the entire thing is a masterclass in sound mixing and design, everything has a visceral presence to it. I just build sets, but I appreciate how much of the world sound creates.
This movie checks a lot of boxes for me. Great dialogue, beautiful imagery, excellent performances, horrific gory brutality and the faintest tinge of otherworldliness.
I imagine 10 years from now there'll be video essays, and regular ol' essays about the end when Chicory looks down at a rock he's had a death grip on, and tosses it aside.
I cried when the flea circus story was being told; I honestly thought he was going to die next because I assumed they were telling the story to make you feel more for him right before he was killed off. I did not want him to die as viciously as the other guy did. Well it worked, just not in the way I thought.
That cut the dude in half scene actually did put me in a funk for a week or so. I wasnt prepared for that kind of degrading violence. Great film though.
Richard Jenkins deserves as much love as JK Simmons. For me, the breakout film for both is Burn After Reading, which is in my experience deeply underrated.
I consider Richard Jenkins the ACTUAL star of Bone Tomahawk. He stole scenes he wasn't even in because I was still thinking about him in the prior scene.
3:10 to Yuma, True Grit & Bone Tomahawk are three modern (or remade) western movies that I could watch over & over. Well, those & The Ballad of Buster Scruggs.
S. Craig Zahler is one of the few directors left that give me hope for the future of big budget cinema. His writing is always superb (if a little too ostentatious at times) and his characters feel real, with real personalities and goals. I'm so glad you guys discussed this movie on a Re:View.
This movie was surprisingly amazing. It actually reminds me kind of "The 13th Warrior". A group of Vikings getting theri villages assaulted and seek out to destroy the intruders. Just to find out they are canibals.
The light jazz selection in the background of this re:View helps, I think, make this one of my favorite episodes. These two from the crew work well together as well.
After seeing that scene in the cave, I had to pause the movie and walk away for a good hour before watching the rest of it. I never had a movie do that to me.
@@prince-solomon How dare I feel emotion while watching a film. I will never tear up during a sad movie, laugh during a comedy, or feel horror while watching a horror movie like this one ever again. It's all fake so why would I feel anything! Thank you. Thank you for opening my eyes.
It's so hard to pull off a genre switching movie that doesn't feel disconnected and disjointed. It is a great film and a showcase in how to pull it off.
@@tweetibird88 Oh yeah, that too. I guess it would be more accurate to say that Bone Tomahawk is a _relatively_ more obscure movie that I've actually seen beforehand.
I was never a big fan of Jim’s when I first saw him in RLM content but the more I see the more I like of him. I really enjoy his insights in these re:View’s he really knows what he’s talking about
Matthew Fox's character was so entertaining in this, even if he was over the top (like a lot of things in this but it worked out.) Really good cast all around and the genre combining worked well too. So glad you guys did a re:View of this.
As soon as Jim said he went in blind and Jay said, "spoilers," I stopped the video to go watch, came back, and observed that I had every single same reaction that these guys had regarding the movie. Loved it. Jaw dropped. Watched scenes multiple times to see that hand. Santa WAS perfect.
Jay says he's never seen anything like this, cowboys versus cannibals. For some reason it reminded me of The 13th Warrior, except that was a big-budget studio movie directed by John McTiernan. Antonio Banderas plays an Arab who teams up with a bunch of Vikings to track down a group of cave-dwelling cannibals. But I haven't seen it in a long time, the comparison may not be that apt.
Totally watched this because of the recommendation Jay gave from a previous video (I'm forgetting which) and went in blind. Glad you're finally talking more about it cause boy, what a movie that was!
glad to hear you guys talk about this movie! i saw it a couple years ago and have been trying to convince people to watch it ever since, happy to see it get some well deserved attention
Cowboys & cannibals - 1999: Ravenous. And holy shit - David Arquette is in both Ravenous and Bone Tomahawk! That's one hell of an accomplishment - to be in not one, but TWO cowboys & cannibals movies.
Didn't they cover it on Half in the Bag? I still need to see it, I don't know why I have yet to watch a new Coen Brothers western. I loved the "True Grit" remake.
I started watching this re:View having never seen this movie. As they were talking about it, I realized I wanted to see it without it being spoiled, which is not the first time a re:View has done that. So I paused it and went and watched the movie. I'm back now. Got to say, I am not a squeamish man, but holy shit, THAT scene!
One of my all time favorite movies. I just love watching people's faces when I mention it as one the of more recent great movies, as most people don't even know it exists let alone how great it is.
I’m so happy there have been pretty good westerns coming out recently. Bone Tomahawk, hateful eight, django unchained, Even magnificent seven was decent and of course the “balled of buster Scruggs.”
