AND IF SCOTUS said we did have to answer, it would be a direct violation of our 5th Amendment right, freedom and liberty; also a direct violation of the Miranda Rights afforded to all in the U.S. of A. There is no such thing as "consensual" conversation when accosted by an armed, uniformed bully who makes the interaction an interrogation, a Phishing expedition (Fishing season is over). There is also something called Federal Code 18, Chapters 241 and 242 (Deprivation of Rights Under Color of Law).
@d s YES, YES, YES. Curious, I saw a video a few years ago where the driver asked the checkpoint officer his reasonable articulable suspicion was that he (the driver) was not a citizen, and the patrol officer insisted; the supervisor was eventually called, the driver refused to go to the spot for further interrogation and said he'd like to exercise his right to travel within the USA unimpeded without answering questions or proving anything because he in innocent until proven guilty in a trial by his peers. The supervisor insisted; the driver invoked his 4th and 5th Amendment rights, he told the supervisor to check US Fed Law 18, Chapters 241 and 242 (Deprivation of Rights Under Color of Law). They copied his license plates and told him to leave.
@d s That sheriff told you wrong. You don't have to answer at all. You don't even have to listen to the question. You don't have to roll your window down. SCOTUS wrote Martinez-Fuerte that the principal protections for the people lie in the appropriate limitation on the scope of the stop. (428 US 567) Matinez-Fuerte makes it clear that a motorist must stop at an inspection station, and must move to the secondary inspection area if ordered to do so. That's all. What are the things a person doesn't have to do? SCOTUS makes it clear in Florida v Royer that a person approached by law enforcement need not answer question and may decline to listen to them (460 US 498)
I refused to answer when I was at a check point in Texas they just said ok have a good day. Americans best stand up for their right or soon you will have none.
I live in El Paso Texas and the border patrol don’t fuck with too many people here they know that if they take someone to Mexico that day by that same time tomorrow the same person will be there again the next day it’s kind of a joke around here.
That happens when you keep Voting for the same Gestapo people in power ( republican and Democrats )...and all started whit Busch and the 911 security excuses...for not doing there job
Ha. We lost. Our government controls us like slaves. It’s pathetic. They have rights to violate our rights at every turn and our forefathers fought for no taxation with representation but the modern day system became so corrupt with gerrymandering and politicians getting voted in for nothing to do with policies but money and manipulation of an uneducated public. Soooooo this video matters? Sure if you want to be outraged over a microcosm vs the bigger failure to a biblical proportion in every facet of our government. Yeah say then move out or any bull shit. I won’t and geee thanks for proving my point.
@@steveh9789 america isnt the greatest lol why you goin to the extremes? why not sweden, japan, norway? we have the highest crime rate per capita, we have fuckin trump running our country into the ground.
@@raoulbrown7457 But under tRump this intrusion has become more aggressive; WE, Americans, did not give our legislators the power to do this... who the eff are these uniformed clowns to impose their will on us and try to limit our rights, freedoms and liberties? THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SAFETY; IT HAS TO DO WITH HERDING US TO SUBMIT TO THEIR ABUSES. We, Americans, do not have to prove our innocence nor our citizenship to anyone; this is the USA, NOT Nazi Germany, nor Communist Cuba or Russia or North Korea or any banana republic dictatorship in the Amazon.
@@66littlejimmy Prove it, or go away and stay there, and suffer in silence. People are rioting for a REASON... they're fed up with the bullsh and double standards and racism... the only way to MAKE people take notice is to hit them in their pockets.
@@douglashoward4206 not even that. Djt and McConnell have been floating proposals to change it to allow Donnie extended years as president. 2020 May be too late to save Democracy from Autocracy.
@@karlblume9419 I voted for Donny because both sides hated him .as an outsider trying to turn this tub around the establishment deeply entrenched fights him. but as a deal maker I don't trust him. and mcconnell is no different than the secret service has ten ways to take you trump schumer. maga.
Cody Tabor Gun ownership is the reason why so many children are killed or injured while attending schools. I do not understand why gun shops are allowed to sell assault rifles to the public!!! Of course Trump really supports The Rifle Association. He is hated by a lot of Canadians as well as Americans.
These border guards must be lost, if there 80 miles from the border? I would sack them at once, border guard are suppose to work on the border aren't they? Please somebody point them in the right direction, no wonder people are crossing undetected, if you got border guards 80 miles from where they need to be.
Unfortunately they changed it to with in 100 miles of border. Continue the propaganda and paranoia AND THE FRICKING GOVERNMENT WILL LET THEM KNOCK ON OUR DOORS.
Then the same people that are wanting to stop migrants are scared so they tell a Spanish border patrol agent that is a kiss Ass and send that idiot to do a job against his own people the white agents are cowards
Schrodinger's Zombie Your papers please.......this is freedom in the Corporate States of Amerika Ps the green shirts of the border patrol are soon to be replaced with brown shirts.
Whatever. You guys look for loopholes to hate Trump. Your hate will not impeach him. You don't believe in free speech. Look at our Liberal Universities. Their teaching our young adult's intolerance, they call free speech hate and racest when you don't agree with them and most of them need real history lessons. This should not be. In order to be found, you have recognized that you are lost.
@@criticalthinker8953 How is pointing out the fact that this predates Trump make someone a Trump apologist? He didn't say he was okay with the checkpoints or that he's a Trump supporter. I've had to deal with the checkpoint on the northbound I-15 in San Diego County on and off since the 1980s.
Trump carries it on, he fosters the border patrol coming inland and violating rights under colour of law. He's had YEARS to put a stop to it. But.. sheeple and bootlickers like yourself won't listen to common sense.
I just did a paper for class where I interviewed a girl from Eastern Europe. She talk about how bad it was during communisms and how the government watched everything they did. Even a minor complaint could get them thrown in jail. I was thinking how awful to have to live under a government that governs with fear.
It gives them the chance to run a drug dog around your car. The real reason for the checkpoint. They just need to conceal it as an “immigration “ checkpoint.
Keep in mind we used to make jokes mocking countries that did this. " Papers please" " in communist Russia, road drives you" etc. Damn it's hard to see your country go that route and become so cowardly as to allow such a thing. Props to the guy for standing up for the Constitution like that.
You don't have the slightest idea of what you are talking about. you have no doubt never left this country. I rather they stop people and ask where are you from papers please like visas and such, I am sick of the garbage that comes here illegally and or overstayed there visas and be deported back to where ever they came from
@@petec5935 You can take your authortarian assumptions about my life and intelligence and cram them back up from where you intially pulled them from. ... your ass. Lol. You want me to fall in line with your line of thinking? Give me something to think about instead of your bullshit childlike berating.
Congress and the Supreme Court has given US Customs and Border Protection a lot of latitude to operate, and it can question almost anyone within 100 miles of any border - land or water - about their US status. That includes the right to establish immigration checkpoints to ask motorists about their citizenship.
My grandparents came to the United States in September 19th, 1945 from the defeated Nazi Germany, my grandfather (R.I.P.) told what it was like living in Germany during the Third Reich’s 12 years regime. The German people democratically elected a conman who promised to make Germany great again, but instead only brought war, destruction, hunger, death and shame to the German people. The Nazis systemically undo democracy in Germany with ridiculous laws and started deportations of Jews blaming them for Germany’s ills. It’s called fascism and that train is never late, it’s coming to America. People thought they could control the tyrant Hitler but they were wrong, they thought Germany could never go to another war and they were wrong again. The American people think fascism can’t never happen in the U.S, and it’s happening right now in front of our own eyes. Trump will won a third term as president, just like Roosevelt, he actually mentioned it, he thinks it’s a great idea and that he could change the laws. You watch, don’t believe now? Comeback in six years and visit this comment thread again.
Sorry but your Phony comment about your Grandfather is a Flat out Lie. Facts Don't Care about Feels, that's why you're angry and Dark inside. You would rather makeup crap instead of seeking real answers.
Wayne Dome ~ The only sore loser and dark inside individual it’s you. You’re an angry person who doesn’t have respect for someone else’s opinion or point of view, if they don’t like Trump as you do, then everything must be a lie or fake news. Just go fuck yourself.
I have been in Arizona for most of the last four years and have come across check points probably 10 times. They have never asked me any questions. Lucky me, I guess. But I respect those who have the guts to exercise their constitutional rights which the government tries so hard to take away or diminish.
@@cavemanorigins5348 well freedom and safety are complicated things nowadays. The enemy is coming at us from all sides. Hell, even from the inside! If it means I have to be interrogated for national safety then so be it. The world is a complicated place. I understand why people are upset , but we do need stricter border security.
@@cavemanorigins5348 I don't believe this was the right method, I completely agree with that. However, we need SOMETHING or else the enemy will get in. I don't want anyone's rights to be violated, but there is always a cost to something.
Another Amurikan that doesn't know the law but thinks they do. You do NOT have the right to not answer police. You DO have the right to "plead the fifth" in a court of criminal law. Further, driving from the border to a point inland is not driving from state to state. And your sentence structure is terrible.
Frequently Cynical Lol. You do have the right to NOT answer police. That is of course if you haven’t broken the law, or if the police don’t have any suspicion you’ve broken the law.🤦🏽♂️
@@MoneyGIitch Another legal idiot. See court decisions, not your righteous anger. I agree that we should not have to answer to police, but that's not the law.
To clarify for those not paying attention, he wasn’t Canadian. Even if he were, it is beyond ridiculous to think it okay to stop people at random to check citizenship status. The more rights you justify giving away, the more they will take. People need to read more history books and figure out why these laws are in place in the first.
Shie H. So what do you call it when a highpatrol man asks for your driver's licence at a police check point the border patrol are a form of law enforcement and don't just gaurd borders but airports,and ports to I would just answer the question and not make a big deal out of it because chances are they're probably looking for something and would like to not waste they're time with one person if it's not who they're looking for
Nobody Knows the burden of proof is not borne by the citizen, it is the states’. Bullies grow up to be cops and prison guards and they aren’t heroes. Sometimes they do their jobs and actually serve and protect, but this is bs.
Nobody Knows And how do you determine if someone is “illegal” without infringing on the rights of citizens. If I, as a Canadian, travel to America as a tourist and am driving down the highway, I’m not there “illegally”. Americans travel into Canada all the time and no one is randomly doing “papers checks” like was done to Jews in Nazi Germany. Stop for a minute to think about what you are proposing or endorsing. What kind of society do you want to live in? Yes, I think people need to honour the borders. Threatening detention of citizens or legal non-citizens isn’t how to do that. I have no problem with pulling someone over for a driving infraction and asking to see their license. Not American? Okay. Ensure they are legally allowed to be there. All fine. Randomly stopping people without cause for paper checks? Yeah. That’s fascism.
B dub Or were you not paying attention. SCOTUS has NOT determined that border patrol can stop people without cause at non-border locations to do papers checks and cannot detain without cause for extended periods of time. They can detain “briefly” although that was not defined and yes, a serious oversight of the Supreme Court.
Yes, he is bad. He loves to separate children from their parents. He's a souless pathologica lying narcissistic racist piece of shit. Just like his supporters, such as you.
@@mikecziraky2037 Do you want to compare the numbers of children that have been locked up under Obama vs Trump, dumbfuck? No, I didn't think so. Like 99 percent of Trumpanzees, you are a drive by coward.
Congratulations, America, you just killed your tourism industry. Not interested in Soviet Bloc style checkpoints where I have to present my 'papers.' Europe, here I come for my next vacation.
Shawn Wells You saying when you travel in another country and be close to a border they dont ask for your Passport or say whats the reason for traveling/visiting? U.S. says problems within and those who coming over Illegal. It might be good to go somewhere else. We need to clean up our Country.
I bet you think this is Trump's doing? Leftists are ignorant in every country I take it? Well I know they are, all you have to do is watch the news. And oh how the governmental run school system in America has let us down as a country, retards run amuck. The regulations establishing the 100-mile border zone were adopted by the U.S. Department of Justice in 1953. The Supreme Court has upheld the use of immigration checkpoints, but only insofar as the stops consist only of a brief and limited inquiry into residence status. This is nothing new.
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@@ALuis-js3zs Benjamin Franklin did make that statement. However, people should read the statement in context. Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. This was first used[1] by Franklin for the Pennsylvania Assembly in its "Reply to the Governor" (11 Nov. 1755) This quote was used as a motto on the title page of An Historical Review of the Constitution and Government of Pennsylvania (1759); the book was published by Franklin; its author was Richard Jackson, but Franklin did claim responsibility for some small excerpts that were used in it. In 1775 Franklin again used this phrase in his contribution to Massachusets Conference (Objections to Barclay’s Draft Articles of February 16.) - "They who can give up essential Liberty to obtain a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Benjamin_Franklin
I was stopped at an "inland border patrol checkpoint" with my brother before. We didn't answer their b.s questions and spent the whole time complaining that he's wasting everyone's time. He eventually let us go because "you two look like citizens".
People don’t understand having this type of check point leads to republicans trying to pass some sort of other bullshet checkpoints which plain and simply waste people’s time
What's even more bullshit is the fact that if you live in a legal cannabis state and you get stopped at one of these inland checkpoints and you're in possession of cannabis, they can and will arrest you. I know people it's happened to.
Congress and the Supreme Court has given US Customs and Border Protection a lot of latitude to operate, and it can question almost anyone within 100 miles of any border - land or water - about their US status. That includes the right to establish immigration checkpoints to ask motorists about their citizenship.
@@davidjones-vx9ju The exact quotation, which is from a letter that Franklin is believed to have written on behalf of the Pennsylvania General Assembly, reads, those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. He was writing about a tax dispute between the Pennsylvania General Assembly and the family of the Penns, the proprietary family of the Pennsylvania colony who ruled it from afar. And the legislature was trying to tax the Penn family lands to pay for frontier defense during the French and Indian War. And the Penn family kept instructing the governor to veto. Franklin felt that this was a great affront to the ability of the legislature to govern. And so he actually meant purchase a little temporary safety very literally. The Penn family was trying to give a lump sum of money in exchange for the General Assembly's acknowledging that it did not have the authority to tax it. Good enough for the P.C. police?
They instituted it so they can have more control over their constituents. I don't see them repealing it any time soon if ever. Just keep standing up and saying nothing. Pretty soon they'll have to stop and pack it in.
The liberal Democrats are just as bad about this as anybody else when it comes to American citizens it's the illegals that they don't seem to mind coming across into our country quit being so close-minded
The ones that think it's OK to eavesdrop on citizen's, do warrantless searches, cease property with no crime (civil forfeiture), violate rights with impunity (qualified immunity). Those representatives?
I’m a truck driver and I deal with border patrol agents all the time living in Arizona I just answer the question and move on but there are times when I get pissed 😤 off and I don’t want to answer there b.s question 👎👎👎
Don't be silly. If a being was actually from Jupiter, they would be considered an interplanetary ambassador with diplomatic immunity and Border Patrol would have to wave him through.
Does anyone understand Freedom of movement law (1) Everyone lawfully within the territory of a State shall, within that territory, have the right to liberty of movement and freedom to choose his residence. (2) Everyone shall be free to leave any country, including his own. ... (4) No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of the right to enter his own country.
do you understand knowing what is going on in your own country? every country on the planet asks where you are from and do you have the right to be in the country but you and most these CUCKs can't figure that out because you have never left the country fucking morons!
i get the idea behind the 'checkpoints' what i dont get is the stupid question "are you a citizen of the USA'! how many non citizens have said "oh my god, you got me, i'm a mexican wall hopper" its so stupid. and its all against the law! but the supreme courts not calling the feds out on it, maybe no supreme court judges have been detained yet.
Elizabeth Britton ,Lizzie baby the last big conference we lost was a multimillion dollar deal in San Francisco due to perceived safety or lack there of and HUMAN WASTE IN THE STREET .When I checked last Trump was ANTI POOP and pro border safety but you and your ilk ARE PRO POOP AND ANTI BORDER SAFETY.
@@JoePo64 Too bad that this is your attitude, as a Canadian my wife and I have visited the Oregon coast many times over the years, very friendly small town coastal people, Yahats area, beautiful state, it's too bad when we are shunned by people with your attitude, , we are nice people, meeting nice people in the states, why have a negative response to this. I'm Afraid to cross the border, now you can ignorantly tell me to stay home.
matthewweaverworks Exactly. If everyone on the road gave the inland border patrol idiots a hard time, they wouldn't continue stopping every car on the road.
Rick Ton That why we have the 2nd amendment. We can not be afraid to defend ourselves from violence. These thugs only like “soft targets”. A chance of armed resistance keeps those cowards in their basements.
matthewweaverworks not the smartest way to protest because this law enforcement agents can get away with you getting killed however you probably get life in prison for even having a weapon around this bastards just take handy camera and fucking school them you get rich doing it and probably get a tv interview out of it
Rick Ton it’s not rocket science. It’s something all citizens should prepare for in case of government overreact. Not saying it’s easy. There are considerations. However it should be on the table. Otherwise we are paper tigers.
Your Anti-American values are childlike. Nobody uses Phrases like Ck.PT. Charlie that was slang 75 years ago, so you must be a child trying to comment with Adults or you're Uneducated. Either way you have No Value.
Wayne Dome When America stops defining and using communism the way they defined and used it back in the Cold War era, then you can complain about someone using slang from over half a century ago.
Mark Green Well its nolonger the 70 or 80's! Welcomel to 2018 were the U.S.A is now change and a BIG MELTING POT full of different people, culture and online and cell phones. The world has changed and Ppl failed so behind that ppl only talking about past and I blame the Gov for not keeping up with changes.
You must not get out much...Actually, that could have been any country in Europe, Africa, or Asia. We are the only country on earth to allow citizens to travel without their "papers" which we call a passport. You read too much shit and believe it without question. And that was not the 70's...it was more likely the 50's...remember that "the Wall" came down under Reagan.
This is insane. Check borders but leave people alone to live their loves inside the country. Also today they ask a question, tomorrow they stop you for another reason. Then they stop you till you prove your innocence. By the way, traffic stop or police stop or border patrol stop are temporary detainment! What is this now? Everybody in US is guilty till they prove their innocence?
Has anybody here seen my old friend US Constitution, Can you tell me where it has gone? It freed a lotta people, but it seems the good die young I just looked around and it was gone.
@@inalienablerights I don't I hate criminals and illegals! I lived in Germany 16 years before liberal assholes like Merkel took over that country it was beautiful and almost crime free! Now because of people like you who hate our country and laws we will have a total shithole of a country! What do you have to worry about answering a question? are you and American citizen?
@@inalienablerights He's mad because he has a little brown in him. His mama was a door knob at a southern border brothel. That's why he doesn't use his last name because it's, "Chavez" His full name is "Pedro Chavez".. Vote for Pedro! lol
@@petec5935 What is wrong with the constitution? Why must a legal rule be written that subverts your God given rights in order to make you feel a little safer? Why are you so incapable of protecting yourself and your family, that you need a government to do it for you? One that leans on the government as a crutch for anything, will never walk straight.
@@petec5935 One of my ancestors by the name of Richard Stockton signed the declaration of independence. I refuse to answer the question at the check point. Trump and people like you is what has made it a shithole country. By the way my family has been here since 1679.
These checkpoints have been going on for a long time. I traveled back and forth between Canada and the US frequently between 2007-2014 (i.e., way before the Trump clown act) and was stopped quite a few times 80 miles south of the border. As a US citizen and veteran, I always had more trouble coming into my own country than the one which gave me a very inexpensive university education at a top-notch university. Thanks Canada!
Your a Veteran? What a joke. Too bad you are like 90% of other (Veterans).....A bunch of losers and Welfare Queens. Face it, your "service" you provided is WORTHLESS. Stay in Canada (Welfare Queen). Your the same (Vet) that shouts "For God and Country, America Land of the Free and Home of the Brave", yet you get down on your hands and knees to a bunch of communists in Washington who have a rope wrapped around your neck and pull you around like a worthless dog. Thank you for your "Service" Welfare Queen! 🤣🤣🤣
They don’t even ask for proof. How do you prove it? We don’t carry around proof of citizenship. So what do they require as proof? Or are they just taking your word? And what is the point of that? Do they run a check? And where? What database? Many non citizens have drivers licenses and social security cards. Many people are legal permanent residents but not citizens. I say I’m a citizen. Prove me wrong. If it’s just to bother people, it should be illegal.
Why? I would have no problem answering a serving member of police any relevant questions. What's the problem? Get over yourselves n work together. Too many fat arses n egos. Now we can add moths to that. Possibly off topic you were all hailing police n firemen hero's not so long ago. F.ing hypocrisy at its best! You are consuming yourselves
Jester Avrgjoe you don't need a warrant to stop and frisk either that's how it's similar there's also other similarities to this if you will go and compare but I'm done here now
I live in central Indiana and my son manages a drugstore. One of his regular customers was frantic over a checkpoint in Chicago. She said ICE had arrested her family members because they didn't have IDs with them and her children were left in Chicago with a just babysitter. They were driving to Indiana to visit relatives. It's a four and half hour drive from there to Canada.
lisa myhre yes it does, you can apply the 5th amendment against any authority if you’re inside the US and this guy was just driving inside the country.
The BP supervisor lied to the reporter and there was no push back. The Fuentes case allows checkpoints and the DP agents to ask questions but it does not state that a person detained without Reasonable Suspicion or Probable Cause must answer the question. In fact SCOTUS have ruled in many cases that a person does not need to answer questions under the 5th Amendment and non-compliance alone is insufficient to extend a stop unless there are more individualized articulated facts that give rise to RS or PC.
I’m Canadian and I’ve traveled in the USA by car many times over the last few decades. But now I won’t even go there for a day trip. It’s not worth the hassle. I’ve never committed a crime but in the USA I could end up arrested for no reason
haris spahic I would too if any of you Americans came across my border. You bastards are just as unstable as I.S I.S. and 300x more dishonest about it. We should build a wall and a laser guided deterrent system to keep Americans in America.
