Bosch Performance SX review - the Canyon Neuron:ONfly & Devinci E-Troy Lite motor 

I didn't actually test it myself, the extender wasn't available. But I talked to one of the Bosch tech guys and discussed how the batteries were drained. They mentioned the batteries would balance themselves if the extender was installed with different SOC/Voltage. So yeah, that's what they told me, they will share the load.

Thanks. I've noticed the subs myself, will look into it. Automatically generated subs used to work, but it seems it stopped at some point. None of my latest vids has subs it seems.

Yeah, if one is able to maintain 600W, the battery will be out in 40 mins. But that's based on the nominal data, probably less IRL. I guess noone will be able to do that, but these powerful lightweight emtbs can drain the battery fast.

Thanks. I've briefly tested the 65 Nm Performance, the gen3 I believe. I agree, it's a strong motor. The motor can be ridden with little effort when going uphill with a moderate cadence. While I haven't ridden it on the trails, I believe it would work fine and it could be an interesting option for a low cost emtb. But, for all I know, there could be other reasons for not putting it on trail bikes...

@@EMTBVideos The Focus Planet 5.9 has this motor. Pherhaps not an emtb, but at least not an asphalt bike. If you are not into the numbers of wattage and nm, -but more into a natural bike feel and overall quietness, -try the Performance Line 65nm! I guess one reason for not putting it on an emtb is that it probably is lest robust in it's internals (belive there are more plastic than metal), -and that the overall quietness is lost due to noisy tires. On a gravelcross type bike I belive it would be a perfect option, -and pherhaps more quiet than SX.

The SX is a smaller and lighter motor. I haven't compared them directly, but I guess they're fairly similar when it comes to noise. Power delivery is very different. The EP8-RS has lots of amplification at lower pedaling frequencies. If you pedal slowly uphill in a slightly high gear, the motor will basically do all the work. If you ride with max assistance that is. The Bosch feels noticeably weaker and you need to be in a low enough gear to get decent assistance going uphill. But things change as the cadence (pedalling frequency) increases. The generous poweramplification of the EP8-RS will drop as you go past 80 ish (?) cadence, which is about where the Bosch SX comes to life. The SX inspires me to pedal faster and it will approach full-power emtb levels as you pedal past 100 rpm. The TQ HPR50 is much more stealth. It doesn't excell at any particular cadence, but the charactheristics is similar to the Bosch. It inspires you to pedal faster, which is fun and inspiring. And it can be exhausting too (: The TQ offers the more stealth/silent/natural experience. Allthough the other motors will feel natural too, by dropping the assistance.

This is the clunkiest of the rest of the lightweight motors. Fausa and TQ are absolutely silent. I won't buy it for that noise.

Yeah, this is an interesting motor! Not the stealthiest though. Many brands have developed their own motors though, so it will be interesting to see how much of the market the SX takes.

Many lw motors are focused on be fitted the way less noticeable it looks "is an ebike" bosch just care about the weight issue not "style" (excuse my english)

@@torabora851 Reliability and repair are part of the equation. In the US, Fazua is having reliability problems with no repair facility. I imagine the SX will be reliable since it's based on a mature motor platform. The TQ seems to be very reliable so far.

We don't know yet. I'm guessing Bulls, but we'll have to wait and see. I'm expecting news from Eurobike.

Norco coming out with one

I haven't seen one yet, don't think Norway is a market of much interest to them :-o

@@EMTBVideos I think you are way wrong Pinion MGU is going to be a major player in the EMTB

@@tomquimby8669 I'm sure they'll come here too. I meant they didn't reach out to me, so I didn't hear about it until now.

@@EMTBVideos This is what to expect ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-HuazPDsnq-I.html

Compared to the Fazua and TQ, quite a lot of low end grunt (: But yeah, some/many will still prefer a full fat.