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Brake test: Modern truck vs. old truck 

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@rishabhraj5515
@rishabhraj5515 3 года назад
Huge respect for not using football fields per elephants 👏
@michellegoede2258
@michellegoede2258 3 года назад
Dekra is a German company, so they use sensible measurements
@beaukiff9
@beaukiff9 3 года назад
@@michellegoede2258 Yeah.
@siramoras
@siramoras 3 года назад
@@michellegoede2258 you mean the only acceptable types of measurement
@michellegoede2258
@michellegoede2258 3 года назад
@@siramoras yes
@akbuilder7626
@akbuilder7626 3 года назад
I got the same shit on a Volvo. Nothing like just driving normally and then it starts beeping and flashing and slams on the brakes with no one in front of you.
@Darth_Urruz
@Darth_Urruz 3 года назад
Now about the Mercedes safety in real-life. I got nearly killed by Mercedes emergency braking system. While driving through a curve, fully loaded, the sensor indicated something (a rain drop, autumn leaf idk) and started braking with full force in the middle of the curve. Great experience, had to do my best to stay on the road.
@omarmontana1969
@omarmontana1969 3 года назад
pfff that must be terrific. Well glad ur still alive. Maybe there was something in front of you Haha
@king_83227
@king_83227 3 года назад
mercedes benz should detect stationary objects not a rain drop or leaf
@terrystratford1235
@terrystratford1235 3 года назад
I turn all the crap off! Lane assist and collision alert! I frickin hate it when 'it' thinks!!!!!! I'm the bloody driver, let me drive! This shit is because drivers will drive tired or drunk or drugged or on the phone or reading a map and people have died cos they not paying attention! So us professional professionals have to suffer! It like race cars, drivers love a raw car, start putting computers on it to help, drivers hate it!
@pqhkr2002
@pqhkr2002 3 года назад
@@terrystratford1235 That's why I love 90s cars and trucks, too old means harder to find parts, too new means too many unstable computers. 90s are just right.
@evonation630
@evonation630 3 года назад
Happened to me it kicked in when raining and the car passed me on the m1 with fog lights on just took a noise dive drive a man truck now no problems yet!!!
@harrisonsaunders4117
@harrisonsaunders4117 4 года назад
appreciate that you used KM/H
@Penguin_of_Death
@Penguin_of_Death 3 года назад
As Dekra is a German company it was unlikely to be anything else...
@Manuel-we5iy
@Manuel-we5iy 3 года назад
imperial system sucks
@Lars-gu3wi
@Lars-gu3wi 3 года назад
@@Manuel-we5iy Y E S finally found someone who thinks the same
@zaralexanderiiiofrussia2525
@zaralexanderiiiofrussia2525 3 года назад
When only in Usa the imperial sistem exist xd
@harrisonsaunders4117
@harrisonsaunders4117 3 года назад
@@ralzvy mph is easier to understand i think it’s because i live in uk...
@domagojmamic7481
@domagojmamic7481 3 года назад
NOW SWITCH THE TRAILERS AND TRY AGAIN
@bakoty6571
@bakoty6571 3 года назад
What do u mean?
@blue7081
@blue7081 3 года назад
@@bakoty6571 Why is the MP4 pulling a curtainsider? Why aren't they showing the load inside?
@Gabriel-he6ih
@Gabriel-he6ih 3 года назад
No, no, you've got a good point
@momirgrozdanic5954
@momirgrozdanic5954 3 года назад
Fejkara od videa i to ozbiljna... Bukvalno sam isto pomislio... :)
@scarmafiagaming1598
@scarmafiagaming1598 3 года назад
Seems like no benefits of lying tho as people could test this themselves and bash that company for lying
@velvetsqueeze
@velvetsqueeze 3 года назад
Test 2: same truck and trailer but switch the drivers. Test 3: same drivers but switch the trailers. Do these and report back your findings.
@charliecroker7005
@charliecroker7005 3 года назад
Very good answer. They could also show that the tyres are in similar condition, and do the tests with the trucks swapped from one lane to the other, just to cancel out differences in the tarmac- who knows if one of the lanes is covered in bits of rubbed-off rubber from a previous test?
@APAstronaut333
@APAstronaut333 3 года назад
I did it. It turns out you’re gay
@Zildawolf
@Zildawolf 3 года назад
@@APAstronaut333 damn test again maybe the 15th result will be different
@sayingnigromakesyoutubecry2647
@sayingnigromakesyoutubecry2647 3 года назад
They also didn't say anything about the load. And the trucks... Are the old one the best braker from the era? Is it in good condition?
@lukasebel3994
@lukasebel3994 3 года назад
Projectfarm needs to test this the way he does it
@ThomasTrucker
@ThomasTrucker 4 года назад
0:26 The SK truck braked later than the new one here as you can see, NOT FAIR! ofc a little different but it could make something
@tansugunal
@tansugunal 4 года назад
Agree.
@WEMBLEYNE
@WEMBLEYNE 3 года назад
The old one probably have drum brakes on all axles too. Switch with disc ones and it would fair the same as the new one
@MrTchou
@MrTchou 3 года назад
Not 16 meters later though.
@mladenpavlekovic8768
@mladenpavlekovic8768 3 года назад
and the question of what is under the tarpaulin
@leon2678
@leon2678 3 года назад
@@WEMBLEYNE disc brakes arent always the best ones...drum brakes can be better sometimes.
@pycanthusderossi4665
@pycanthusderossi4665 3 года назад
The old truck looks like it didn't even try to brake!
@JB-nu1pk
@JB-nu1pk 3 года назад
was thinking the same.... atleast give it some new brakes
@seze3057
@seze3057 3 года назад
Show the contents of the second trailer...
@magoid
@magoid 3 года назад
My thought exactly.
@mikhoyan5997
@mikhoyan5997 3 года назад
Stay where you are!
@henningquast8456
@henningquast8456 3 года назад
The same as on the other trailer, as it’s stated in the video. Both weighing in at about 38,5 tons. Why should they have set this up? Isn’t it logical for a truck that is about 30 years older to have a longer braking distance (old abs, old disc or even drum brakes). The same evolution happend also to normal passenger cars.
@fideramirez8611
@fideramirez8611 3 года назад
They could be lying and using an empty box, why don’t they use the same trailers?
@henningquast8456
@henningquast8456 3 года назад
@@fideramirez8611 Do I have to repeat myself? Why should they lie??? There is no logical reason for them to lie. It’s just normal that modern trucks to have a shorter braking distance than a 30 year old one. Like I said, a Golf 2 also has a longer braking distance than a Golf 7 eventhough it is lighter.
@tomaszpiesiewicz2993
@tomaszpiesiewicz2993 3 года назад
Do this test with the same new trailer.
@GrillerRohde
@GrillerRohde 3 года назад
Why? Why would you test new tech with Old+new tech?
@ThomasTrucker
@ThomasTrucker 3 года назад
@@GrillerRohde because it would make a diffrenece.
@GrillerRohde
@GrillerRohde 3 года назад
@@ThomasTrucker Yeah sure but it would be a useless comparison. Who would drive a 20yo truck with a brand new trailer?
@ThomasTrucker
@ThomasTrucker 3 года назад
@@GrillerRohde If it is possible of course there will be people using it on their own old truck.
@lucas-wh8jp
@lucas-wh8jp 3 года назад
@@GrillerRohde He probably doesnt think that old tech is better than new tech. He just want to see the REAL difference
@jmfjcas6014
@jmfjcas6014 3 года назад
..And now show me this "modern truck" in thirty years later. I'm sure, after next thirty years only this SK will still to ready to drive.
@joykumba5797
@joykumba5797 3 года назад
New vehicles are too over-engineered...even to the rims! Too computerised and too many electronics that go bad often...so yeah, the 90s one will live on...
@starstencahl8985
@starstencahl8985 3 года назад
Because that is not a requirement for the development of a truck. What company uses the same vehicles for 30 years? No serious one does. And the manufacturer doesn’t care about the used vehicle market. They want go sell the best new product. Also, government regulations and people striving for comfort hardly gave them any choice other then overcomplicate the whole truck.
@jmfjcas6014
@jmfjcas6014 3 года назад
@@starstencahl8985 so let's go back for times when quality and brand were more important than quantity. 1960's, 70' 80'... Somehow then the trucks ran without repairs for 20-30 years. Leyland, Man, Volvo, Scania, Mercedes, Om, Saurer, Fiat and on US Mack, Peterbilt , Ford and many others produce trucks that break down little and drive long. All these companies were not serious then? But the economists said they wouldn't make money this way. On the one hand, they talk about ecology, and on the other side, they produce items that will last for ~5 years they cost more and produce more waste.. This is just lie. Additionally, people today are getting lazier and dumber. And these old trucks still go and works on many places and earn their living ...
@starstencahl8985
@starstencahl8985 3 года назад
​@@jmfjcas6014 Yeah, I'm completely on your side with that. But that is sadly what the market demands nowadays and manufacturers have little to say about how they want to build their vehicles, if they want to stay competitive
@johndunley4071
@johndunley4071 3 года назад
The new brake sensors on the new mercs can be scary if you on a bend and a twig sticking out it locks your brakes I get it all the time,I say bring back the old trucks better to drive than new ones
@Minemac69
@Minemac69 3 года назад
My antos 2643 only beeps usually, very rarely starts braking
@timderks5960
@timderks5960 3 года назад
First of all: Brakes don't lock on newer vehicles. It's a benefit of driving a newer vehicles, meaning you'll have better control in braking situations. Secondly, no. You're just being nostalgic, and are being stubborn towards new tech.
@Cozzy-Wozzy
@Cozzy-Wozzy 3 года назад
@@timderks5960 Doesn't change the fact that sudden hard braking is going to upset the stability of a 40+ Ton truck going through a corner, regardless if the brakes lock or not. Ever heard of weight transfer?
@timderks5960
@timderks5960 3 года назад
@@Cozzy-Wozzy No, you're right, it doesn't change that very specific fact that you picked for a very specific reason. It does however make a massive difference how the truck responds to this stability change. The old truck is guaranteed to lock up all wheels, which combined with the stability change will absolutely guarantee that it starts sliding when cornering. On a new truck, this risk is massively reduced. Also, weight transfer has absolutely nothing to do with this, but yes, I've heard of it, many times.
@Cozzy-Wozzy
@Cozzy-Wozzy 3 года назад
@@timderks5960 Its really not a very specific situation, and it does happen, multiple guys have complained that it detects small sticks, bushes. And very small miniscule stuff like rubber from blown tires etc. darting out from ditches and what not, and I've even seen in a few videos for American trucks with the system where it automatically brakes because it see's a bridge over the road.
@damianpena9337
@damianpena9337 3 года назад
I wonder, why does the new truck have a closed box? Why they didnt show the cargo in the trailer? Is it because its an empty box? Put flat beds on both and i will believe it! For now its just fake for me!
@Ronni.Petersson
@Ronni.Petersson 3 года назад
Dont look fake. The new truck brakes harder by the look.
@Veniiisiii232
@Veniiisiii232 3 года назад
you are nit picking, its really stupid to belive that 20 years older truck will have the same brake power as a new model
@simonm1447
@simonm1447 3 года назад
It don't matter if there's a load or not. With a load you have more pressure on the tires, without the truck has less pressure, but also less weight. The brakes are made for the loaded truck, and the truck adjusts the brake force depending on the actual load. This has nothing to do with a passenger car.
@reinbeers5322
@reinbeers5322 3 года назад
@@simonm1447 More weight will mean longer braking distance. Just because you have more weight on the tires, and therefore more grip, it is NOT equivalent to simply having less weight.
@simonm1447
@simonm1447 3 года назад
@@reinbeers5322 I know it sounds strange, but an empty truck will really don't stop with a shorter brake distance than a fully loaded one. Brakes of semi trucks and their trailers are designed for full load, they can absorb the heat of an emergency braking maneuver. With a fully loaded trailer you have much more friction on the road, so the brakes can work with 100%, if the truck is empty they can't and work with less braking power. Modern trucks with air suspension calculate this with the acceleration (how fast it accelerates if it's leveled, they have a tilt sensor in the truck), older ones have a simple device which measures the suspension travel of the leaf springs. shannonlawgroup.com/calculating-stopping-distance-semi-trucks/ BTW, I had a education at Daimler when we picked up our new truck, and they told the same
@congxie4404
@congxie4404 3 года назад
But Old SK looks a lot better ;)
@Random-nf7qb
@Random-nf7qb 3 года назад
yeah, could just offer upgrade kits for old trucks, bring the difference down to about 5 meters
@worldmapping4895
@worldmapping4895 3 года назад
but its worse aerodynamically
@Random-nf7qb
@Random-nf7qb 3 года назад
@@worldmapping4895 eh, not by THAT much
@GhostOfDamned
@GhostOfDamned 3 года назад
I can agree totally
@recycleman975
@recycleman975 3 года назад
yeah
@russell24david
@russell24david 3 года назад
Guy behind the new truck, better have good brakes too!
@feinschmecker9566
@feinschmecker9566 3 года назад
@handige rakkers Ofc.Cars and trucks are difrent Weight maybe..
@demil3618
@demil3618 3 года назад
It explains nothing! We don’t hear any details why there is such a difference: Is it the truck or the trailer brakes? Is it the size of the brake disks, material of pads? This video says nothing!
@terrystratford1235
@terrystratford1235 3 года назад
Disc brakes on the unit all round, trailers have abs and ebc and other 3 letter acronyms! Tyres are better! Also newer hgv and trailers are lighter, so the pay load can be increased!
@demil3618
@demil3618 3 года назад
@@terrystratford1235 ...so it’s a matter of newer trailers, not „old lorries“. The towing truck isn’t the issue then as it seems.
@terrystratford1235
@terrystratford1235 3 года назад
@@demil3618 kind of! Older units may have disc braking on the steer wheel, but drum brakes on the lift and drive axles! As for trailers, a brand new, skelly (containers) car transporter or fridge, especially double Deckers are really heavy empty! Possibly upto 15 ton! An empty flatbed probably only 10 ton!
@demil3618
@demil3618 3 года назад
@@terrystratford1235 Yes with the towing truck on drum brakes, they‘ll definately loose against disk brakes ones.
@terrystratford1235
@terrystratford1235 3 года назад
@@demil3618 let's not forget tyres also! Now you can chose for fuel or grip! But the tyres now whatever you have are soooooooòoo much better than old radials!!
@andypreston1524
@andypreston1524 3 года назад
I would drive that old SK any day, all day...... OK, the Actros is a very nice modern truck and the SK's stopping distance is longer but I prefer to actually "feel" the truck I'm driving rather than sit on top of a big computer...........
@fryphillipj560
@fryphillipj560 3 года назад
feel? fucking snowflake lol xd
@andypreston1524
@andypreston1524 3 года назад
@@fryphillipj560 Snowflake? ..... Oh bell ends like you do amuse me............🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@dmytrogubskyi4355
@dmytrogubskyi4355 3 года назад
Oh, I'm sure you will *feel* when you will collide with an obstacle at 43km\h, while the new truck will scratch a bumper.
@spunkystefan
@spunkystefan 3 года назад
Wieso erhöht man dann nicht endlich die Geschwindigkeit von 80 auf 100 auf Autobahnen für LKWs. Der Verkehrsfluss würde deutlich verbessert....
@Audianer87
@Audianer87 3 года назад
Oder von 60 auf 80 auf Landstraße. Früher fuhren alle mit 100 auf der Autobahn, ohne Helferlein.
@1Minecraftero
@1Minecraftero 3 года назад
I still prefer the old one
@charliecroker7005
@charliecroker7005 3 года назад
Bloke in the SK Merc didn't press the pedal hard enough. Not one wheel locked; not even a puff of smoke. Bollocks test.
@gavcom4060
@gavcom4060 3 года назад
quite schewpid innit
@Dysputant
@Dysputant 3 года назад
TBH smoke in new one was from breakes not wheels. If you hold brake to lock wheels... you take longer to stop cose rubber turns into fluid.
@kerozin520
@kerozin520 3 года назад
It has ABS, older truck is from 1997, ABS became mandatory in EU in 1991.
@reduxith
@reduxith 3 года назад
@@kerozin520 Both trucks should have abs then -.-
@MB2340
@MB2340 3 года назад
@@kerozin520 that model isnt from 97 there build them from 88. 97 where the Actros.
@Cypher791
@Cypher791 3 года назад
Thats incedible... bringing 40T to a stop in just twice the length of its self... as a driver you may never have to put that brake pedal all the way to the floor in your whole life but if you do... its nice to know its gonna do the job.
@ilkkak3065
@ilkkak3065 3 года назад
In Finland they did test with 76 T timber truck and stopped it in 49 m. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Ooet-GOpcTQ.html
@Cypher791
@Cypher791 3 года назад
@@ilkkak3065 Thats amazing, i expected that "A-Frame" drawbar trailer to jack-knife but it all stayed on track.
@ilkkak3065
@ilkkak3065 3 года назад
@@Cypher791 It stays on track if breaks are ok. Even in snowy and icy conditions.
@SyrusWolfe
@SyrusWolfe 3 года назад
Reducing braking distances for safety is good, but there is one thing to keep always in mind: when moving loads of tons, short braking distances could be not so much safer. You're traveling at 80 km/h with a load of what, 5 tons, you brake for an emergency and you stop in 41 meters. The load will do the same? 5 tons at 80kn/h have an immense kinetic energy and the only things that counteract it are the fixing systems of the cargo, if not done properly an emergency braking so powerful like that could end in a catastrophic and potentially fatal accident by cargo displacement.
@simonm1447
@simonm1447 3 года назад
Fixing the load properly is mandatory and it's controlled by the police. The load has to withstand a emergency brake with full power.
@mb-fs1yo
@mb-fs1yo 3 года назад
And everybody is super responsible and don’t use questionable equipment, that’s why you never see broken or torn tie downs along the road. Oh, wait.
@areyouundoingthatorwhat9181
@areyouundoingthatorwhat9181 3 года назад
@@mb-fs1yo Agreed,a couple of years back my Iveco spec truck had both sets of keys stolen,the dealership sent an enormous Scania tilt and slide to load it on.When it was loaded I can remember actually thinking,to my self, f**k that! There is 11.5 tons of truck with probably a ton of two of tools,jack's,spec adapters etc. On board with quite a high centre of gravity now sitting 5 foot off the floor on a relatively shiny surface being held by just 3 not entirely suitably sized ratchet straps,if he corners too quickly it's coming off or if he brakes hard it's coming through his cab,the bulkhead being just some small box section and a mesh.Despite his assurance,bragging of how he regularly loads 2 giant tractors at once etc. the inevitable happened,the single rear strap broke and my truck shunted forwards,the 600kg solid block of steel counterweight welded across the front chassis pulverised his deck winch and half pulled it out of its chassis mountings,fortunately for him it did stop my truck because it was the only thing between it and the back of his mesh bulkhead and tissue paper cab,lucky bastard!
@mark-1rc502
@mark-1rc502 3 года назад
These tests are always Manipulated to suit the Desired outcome . Of course the New tech is Better that I’m not disputing , but what is the Condition of the Brakes on the Old model?
@bertiewooster3326
@bertiewooster3326 3 года назад
Yep the driver was told your bonus depends on you letting the newer truck win......ok boss no problem.
@mark-1rc502
@mark-1rc502 3 года назад
@@bertiewooster3326 Exactly Too many variables , what about the Condition of the tyres ? The weight of the Trailer ? Driver reaction? Quite a few things to consider
@Dysputant
@Dysputant 3 года назад
Fixing brakes old one. 300$ , just put something from replacement. 100$ for fix. Fixing brakes in new one. 3 000 $ Ordering parts from china 3 months. Repair shop fees 2 000$ , truck wont move until you place 1 and only part from producer.
@Steve1766
@Steve1766 3 года назад
new truck = endless money pit
@terrystratford1235
@terrystratford1235 3 года назад
Now put a numpty in a car who just has to get in front, in your breaking zone b4 a junction! Show everyone how far a car will be shunted forward!
@Daniel-fs5np
@Daniel-fs5np 3 года назад
Der Unterschied zwischen Trommel und Scheibenbremse. Aber es geht nichts über den SK. Allein schon der V8 Sound. Einfach Ein Traum.
@ddeejjkkoo
@ddeejjkkoo 3 года назад
Wszystko fajnie, tylko że "stara" ciężarówka to model który w produkcji znajdował się od 1989 roku. Bardziej uczciwie byłoby porównać z pierwszą generacją Actrosa, która do produkcji weszła w 1996 roku, a więc w 1997 była modelem nowoczesnym, a nie konstrukcją ośmioletnią.
@tomphson2236
@tomphson2236 3 года назад
SK is best ❤️
@Steve1766
@Steve1766 3 года назад
yes
@MRRWKSAARNalltheworld
@MRRWKSAARNalltheworld 10 месяцев назад
Unfortunately Mercedes trucks are not not a 1997 model this is a model 1988 - 1994 But his sister SK2 1994 - 2002 She is the model 1997 And brakes In the best
@3DPeter
@3DPeter 3 года назад
you can't compare a truck with disk brakes and ASR and ABS with a truck with drum brakes and ....drum brakes!
@dmytrogubskyi4355
@dmytrogubskyi4355 3 года назад
Why? - It is the exact idea of the test - to show you a tech evolution. And, btw, the old truck has ABS too - it's 1997, not dinosaur era.
@3DPeter
@3DPeter 3 года назад
@@dmytrogubskyi4355 Well, i a way you're right. It's a comparison in how trucks evolved for the better.
@dmytrogubskyi4355
@dmytrogubskyi4355 3 года назад
@@3DPeter true. Just a very simple example of real life situation for an ordinary person to see, without overloading it with a lot of math and engineering standing behind it.
@Denstoradiskmaskinen
@Denstoradiskmaskinen 4 года назад
Hold on, gotta do the math, 57 - 41.. yes, the math check out, its 16m longer!
@theguywhovideo2445
@theguywhovideo2445 3 года назад
I used my calculator and got syntax error so the answer is sytax error
@zaralexanderiiiofrussia2525
@zaralexanderiiiofrussia2525 3 года назад
Wtf i don't know 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
@dnzkrt
@dnzkrt 3 года назад
I noticed that the Difference should be 20m approximately
@driverbank6563
@driverbank6563 3 года назад
Fantastic to see how technology improves safety, especially when needed in emergency situation. Great video!
@Voda-hn7mq
@Voda-hn7mq 3 года назад
Sk, 141, Turbostar and F89....most beautiful european trucks ever
@sannx9486
@sannx9486 3 года назад
20ти летний SK жив и здоров, да и скорей всего с родньім движком, интересно будет взглянуть на новьій Актрос через 20 лет, если он конечно доживет
@AdrianHernandez-bs2en
@AdrianHernandez-bs2en 3 года назад
The new trailer started breaking before, and the loading is diferent besides the old truck with those brakes wouldn't be steet legal. I don't think this test is valid.
@111jacare
@111jacare 3 года назад
Interesting thought: One vehicle that I used to drive, an 11/1979 build tandem tray top with a single axle trailer on behind, the brakes were such on that truck, that, even with 4 tonne more than what should have been on the truck, it would outperform some cars in braking at traffic lights. To the point that I was even abused by a copper for causing the copper to have to take evasive action to avoid running into the trailer! Copper tried the overweight trick on me... But, how could I have stopped quicker than you if I am overweight??? This was at a gross weight of 32.5 tonne, over 4 axles. Eventually, the brake shoes got down to the rivets, and the shoes were replaced. With the new shoes, the braking capacity went out the window, and had to allow an extra 10 metres at 60 km/h. As for the torque / horsepower argument... it also comes down to gearing. One other truck that was a joy to drive was an old Scania, 6/1977 build, 296 b.h.p., 1070 Nm of torque. Pulled out of a yard in the hills, gross weight of 34.5 tonne. Company truck follows me out of the yard, he is 42.5 tonne, 460 horsepower Cummins in a Sterling prime mover. Now, on paper, the company truck has the better horsepower to weight ratio, and should get away from me. Company truck is electronically limited to 100 km/h, mine is gearbound to 88 km/h. Went up the first hill, got away from him, over the top, my practice is to ride the exhaust brakes and change up through the gears to hit the bottom of the hill doing 84 km/h / 2100 r.p.m., then hold that speed for the start of the next hill, which is a 2 km, 6% grade. Company truck got away from me on the downhill and flat, but, I went past him with a 10 km/h speed difference at about the 1.6 km mark on the next climb... how is this so??? It all comes down to the gearing!!! To further reinforce this point... A 112 Scania, 305 h.p., 3.89 diff ratio, used to tow a triaxle cement tanker out of Geelong to Adelaide. He would be loaded to 42.5 tonne at Geelong, and would use 350 odd litres of fuel for the trip back to Adelaide. So, on the last Mermaids weighbridge, his gross weight would be 42.2 tonnes. Going up the dipper, he would be in 4th gear at 15 km/h. The last load that was done with this truck as a prime mover was a load of railway sleepers out of Tailem Bend. At the Mermaids weighbridge: Steer: 5.40 tonne, tandem drive: 17.20 tonne, triaxle trailer: 20.70 tonne - Gross: 43.30 tonnes. (Yes, the knuckles got rapped / spanked by the Mermaid!) Going up the dipper, held 7th gear, 1400 r.p.m., 25 km/h.. This is in a 111 Scania, 296 h.p., 4.86 diff ratio.
@Alex462047
@Alex462047 3 года назад
It's nice to know you get something for all that high tech engineering designed to be impossible to maintain self-sufficiently. I'd still take the old truck, look a bit further ahead for hazards and take my chances.
@Alex462047
@Alex462047 3 года назад
@@Fishmans Yes, take my chances. It's not the dead cyclist or motorist who has to live with it afterwards, it's the driver who survived, a dubious advantage. Besides, if you're driving such that you cannot stop in the available distance, then you're doing it wrong, point blank. Also, the highway code is written with older vehicles in mind, so it's not like longer braking distances haven't been planned for. P.S. Don't forget to adjust your damned brakes. They do wear down.
@Ljoha-Deutschland
@Ljoha-Deutschland 3 года назад
Да вы ещё дагестанский КАМАЗ с арбузами не видели!
@Porosenok_miasnoy
@Porosenok_miasnoy 3 года назад
Написал бы тогда KAMAZ, чтобы они поняли 🤔
@Ljoha-Deutschland
@Ljoha-Deutschland 3 года назад
@@Porosenok_miasnoy да мне пох, чё они там поняли. Но семь лайков говорят о том, что семеро догадались.
@Porosenok_miasnoy
@Porosenok_miasnoy 3 года назад
@@Ljoha-Deutschland так это тебя русскоязычные лайкнули😂
@Ljoha-Deutschland
@Ljoha-Deutschland 3 года назад
@@Porosenok_miasnoy ДА ЛАДНО! 😲 Я думал, китайцы...
@Porosenok_miasnoy
@Porosenok_miasnoy 3 года назад
@@Ljoha-Deutschland ну и зачем ты это тогда высрал? 🤔
@abodymody7641
@abodymody7641 3 года назад
The old design is still better
@Steve1766
@Steve1766 3 года назад
yup
@marvinl8519
@marvinl8519 3 года назад
New brakes on both trucks? Or used, probably old ones on the old truck?
@kstudios8706
@kstudios8706 3 года назад
Next to the brakes the tires are very important, too. New tires on the old merc and again!
@Rocker-1234
@Rocker-1234 3 года назад
@@kstudios8706 the old one only half braked. older trucks dont have the safety systems newer ones do so fully locked brakes are actually fully locked and could stop way sooner then a newer truck but more violently and alot higher risk
@Steve1766
@Steve1766 3 года назад
manual chad SK 👍👍👍👍💪💪💪❤ VS new Virgin autotragic actros 🤮🤮🤮🤢🤢🤢🤢
@dstan128
@dstan128 3 года назад
Would of been a better comparison if both tractor units used the same trailer
@sgxbot
@sgxbot 10 месяцев назад
no because the trailers also improved over time and they belong into the test of new technology vs old
@lazarlazar4748
@lazarlazar4748 3 года назад
I take SK, thanks!
@HenkkaWRC
@HenkkaWRC 3 года назад
The ideo of this test is to show how technology has advanced in 30 years. It's not only about the truck itself, but the trailer too. Trailer technology has also developed over the years. That old SK is pulling a trailer from it's era and the new Actros is pulling a new trailer. For you delusional conspiracy theorists out there. Why the fuck would Dekra, an independent vehicle inspection company fake tests like this? It's not like Mercedes is conducting a test where they test their own brand new product against, lets say, an old Scania 3-series truck.
@zilviazilvos2316
@zilviazilvos2316 3 года назад
bull shit, tires, brake disc and brake pads have a great impact of this kinda test. put a good set on the old truck, and i bet itll outperform the new truck.
@millomweb
@millomweb 3 года назад
Great video to show you don't know how to carry out tests !
@kauslercarvingoberpfalz3993
@kauslercarvingoberpfalz3993 3 года назад
Old is gold. Old school trucking for live
@alvarofajardo361
@alvarofajardo361 3 года назад
Excelente video pero me gustaria ver si el mas moderno llevaba ka misma carga, nunca la mostraron
@Audisport99
@Audisport99 3 года назад
Yeah but what's inside the other trailer...... why would it be covered
@andrezesna3920
@andrezesna3920 3 года назад
Alles klar..16 Meter in 40 Jahren..bin begeistert
@DarthG3nesis
@DarthG3nesis 3 года назад
20 Jahre
@andrezesna3920
@andrezesna3920 3 года назад
@@DarthG3nesis Der SK ist nicht von 1997 auch wenn es da steht. 1988 wurde die schwere Klasse SK vorgestellt. Der Sattelschlepper im Bild stammt deutlich sichtbar nicht von 97. Da gab es schon den Actros. Der Actros im Video ist die neueste Generation und ab 2011 gebaut worden.. 30 Jahre oder 40 Jahre spielt glaub keine Rolle..Denn in vielen anderen Punkten ist echt wenig Entwicklung geschehen.. Nach wie vor schlimmer CW Wert und hoher Verbrauch durch Barocken Dieselmotor. Somit auch Emissionen. Man sollte meinen LKW würden schon lange elektrisch fahren..stattdessen geilt man sich an 16 Meter Bremsweg auf. Wooow was eine Entwicklung
@EnjoyFirefighting
@EnjoyFirefighting 3 года назад
@@andrezesna3920 für weite Strecken ja scheinbar noch nicht ausgereift genug, egal ob im PKW-Bereich, ÖPNV, kommerzieller LKW Verkehr oder bei Einsatzfahrzeugen. Es gibt bereits überall die einen oder anderen reinen Elektrofahrzeuge und Elektro-Hybridfahrzeuge, aber eben nicht in großer Stückzahl. Wie willst den CW Wert noch groß beeinflussen wenn die grobe Form der Kabine indirekt vorgegeben ist?
@heizoeli
@heizoeli 3 года назад
@@andrezesna3920 Man kann es auch positiver formulieren: 28 Prozent kürzerer Bremsweg in 30 (oder 40) Jahren! Dafür dass es da physikalische Grenzen gibt, ist das doch ein beachtlicher Fortschritt. Und wie soll ein 40-Tonner Hunderte km weit elektrisch fahren? Bestimmt nicht mit Akku, dann wohl eher mit Oberleitung über den Autobahnen oder/und mit Brennstoffzelle.
@type3666
@type3666 3 года назад
Mercedes Sk , Nice 🤘
@Steve1766
@Steve1766 3 года назад
ye
@juansieb6496
@juansieb6496 3 года назад
Los dos camieones contienen la MISMA carga y el.mismo quilaje? Seguro q NOO.. así q la publicidad es falzaaa
@AllianceB95
@AllianceB95 3 года назад
Sidenote... The modern one with the ABS started slipping and it kinda got out of the straight line. The Older model with drumbrakes... Remained stable....and in a straight line... I know which one id choose... The old Model all day every day. The romance of trucking is oldschool... The Modern thing is automated to big boredom. Sooo #Dekra do a real honest test which one is actually safer... You will be amazed to see the Older model is safer.
@kerozin520
@kerozin520 3 года назад
It literally says ABS on older trucks grill.
@Jehty_
@Jehty_ 3 года назад
People killed in traffic accidents in Germany: 1997: 8549 2017: 3180 Death per 100.000 vehicles: 1997: 16.9 2017: 5.5 I definitely see why you would say that the older truck is safer...
@ilkkak3065
@ilkkak3065 3 года назад
New one has ebs
@wiedietie
@wiedietie 3 года назад
I showed this to my cat He didn't understand, he is a cat..
@vishsarat
@vishsarat 3 года назад
Lol, show it to doggo, he will understand
@chinadashauthority65
@chinadashauthority65 3 года назад
@Vish I will cook your dog
@vishsarat
@vishsarat 3 года назад
@@chinadashauthority65 why 😐😦 u want Hot dog ?
@matthias8537
@matthias8537 3 года назад
Ich sage Fakenews, der Auflieger ist leer🙈 hab auf nen SK Fahrschule gemacht, bei den Bremsen hab ich kein Unterschied gemerkt 🤣
@dennisthum1499
@dennisthum1499 3 года назад
Dann mach den Test nochmal. Damals hatte man in Relation zum Gewicht nur 60% Bremskraft. Heutzutage hat man bei einer Vollbremse bis zu 150%. Der reifen spielt allerdings auch eine tragende Rolle. Dennoch ist das Ergebnis real und glaubwürdig. Gib mir ein Grund warum es gefaket sein sollte. Der SK hat maximal Euro 3 und verbraucht auch ca 35-40% mehr sprit, somit hätten die keine Vorteile den neuen Lkw besser da stehen zu lassen. Bin gelernter LKW bzw NFZ Mechatroniker und selbst aufm Prüfstand kommen da starke unterscheide zwischen den neuen und älteren Modellen auf
@matthias8537
@matthias8537 3 года назад
@@dennisthum1499 der Neue hat ein Planeauflieger und man sieht den Beladungszustand nicht, mehr sag ich mal nicht 🙈 und ob du NFZ Mechaniker bist oder nicht, das spielt für mich keine Rolle. Du hockst in deiner Werkstatt und beliest dich mit bunten Blättchen der Hersteller, wir fahren die Dinger und haben deutlich mehr Erfahrung in der Praxis 🤣
@dennisthum1499
@dennisthum1499 3 года назад
@@matthias8537 ich fahre die Dinger auch selber, bin nur gelernter NFZ'ler, fahr seit über einem Jahr selber. Und die Werte der Prüfstände liegen auch nicht. Selbst wenn der SK einen neuen Planenauflieger hätte, wäre der Bremsweg länger. Mein Vater fuhr damals 6jahre lang ein sk und meinte selber dass der Bremsweg deutlich verkürzt ist beim MP4
@matthias8537
@matthias8537 3 года назад
@@dennisthum1499 Es macht aber nen Unterschied ob der Planeauflieger voll oder leer ist, das kannst du nicht widerlegen und ich nicht beweisen, also ist es eine Schwebe 🙈 zum anderen: wird die Brenskraftverteilung auf das Zugfahrzeug geregelt, schiebt der Auflieger den SK ordentlich und andersherum kommt nen prima Bremsweg bei raus, ist die Voreilung des Anhängerbremsventil so eingestellt, daß der Auflieger deutlich früher anzieht. Beim Lkw gibt es soviele Wege zu bescheißen, das weißt du und ich ebenfalls👍 Ich hab in meiner Lehre wo ich noch kein Führerschein hatte 2 Jahre Lkws geschraubt in mein Betrieb 🙈. Gerade geleaste Auflieger hat der Vertrieb gern so eingestellt, daß die Hauptbremskraft auf der Zugmaschine lag, bis wir es merkten und umstellen ließen. Das kommt aber nur rum, wenn der Fahrer blickig ist und sagt, daß der immer so schiebt und man selbst sich wundert, warum die Bremsen nach 300tkm am Auflieger noch so gut sind 🤣🤣
@dennisthum1499
@dennisthum1499 3 года назад
@@matthias8537 ja das mit dem Bremsverteiler stimmt schon da gebe ich dir Recht. Dennoch ist der Bremsweg deutlich kürzer, ob es jetzt wirklich 16m sind weiß ich nicht, ich sehe aber 10m für sehr realistisch. Selbst wenn der Actros leer ist würde er nicht unbedingt früher stehen zwecks Reibung usw... Müsste man selber testen. Aber die ziehen ja keine Vorteile daraus die alten Lkw schlecht zu machen, da die sowieso unwirtschaftlich sind. Ich vermute Mal dass so gebremst worden ist, dass die Räder nicht kurz vorm blockieren waren sondern weniger... Und ob der SK überhaupt ABS hatte
@vst9266
@vst9266 3 года назад
They should show us the weights on new truck too.
@dmytrogubskyi4355
@dmytrogubskyi4355 3 года назад
Why? If they wanted to cheat the test, they would cheat it in a different way. And if you want to suspect them in cheating, you'd find other reasons to do so.
@recycleman975
@recycleman975 3 года назад
old trucks are better new are full of electronic systems
@hellrot8889
@hellrot8889 3 года назад
The old one is still better
@dmytrogubskyi4355
@dmytrogubskyi4355 3 года назад
So people did the test as simple as it practically could be to show you it is not. Yet still... *sight.
@Steve1766
@Steve1766 3 года назад
yes
@JFMdGeist
@JFMdGeist 3 года назад
First!!! Open cargo vs closed? It'll give some deference too!!! In reality improve the old one, adding new brakes and modern engines, And it become like new...just mind it for a moment!!!
@umbertarash1341
@umbertarash1341 3 года назад
show whats in the new trucks trailer .
@dmytrogubskyi4355
@dmytrogubskyi4355 3 года назад
Your tinfoil hat delivery. Expect soon.
@emirares
@emirares 3 года назад
1:04 imagine you cross the street and see this on your right.
@epiccarguy892
@epiccarguy892 3 года назад
brand new chinese actros full of electronics vs great strong SK
@Steve1766
@Steve1766 3 года назад
yup
@Steve1766
@Steve1766 3 года назад
shitty bluetex euro 6 arocs with DPFS and anti blues vs good old lovely sk
@epiccarguy892
@epiccarguy892 3 года назад
@@Steve1766 ikr
@petarjelinic7682
@petarjelinic7682 3 года назад
...obviously someone doesn't know the trucks length, the difference is only 16m, but the length of a standard truck is nearly 19m so how come the older truck is so much ahead, I think the lenght difference should be about 23-24m if you judge by the Video...
@refiktf
@refiktf 3 года назад
Balkan.....
@edd1325
@edd1325 3 года назад
Nope, 13. 6 trailer, with 2 to 3 metres of cab.
@bambustech9477
@bambustech9477 3 года назад
Very impressive video! but my heart goes out to all your Truck Drivers in the comment section - Sorry to hear you have bad experiences with whatever truck you're driving, but do note that your sacrifices, hard work and continued dedication to making sure that shelves are stocked with all the stuff we, the consumers want, is highly appreciated and couldn't be done without you! I have a brother currently taking his truck drivers license, please accept my apologies on behalf of my ignorant fellow citizens, who hates you for being on the road and 'slowing things down', they don't realize what important role you really play in the greater scheme of things, and for that, I am sorry! Keep up the hard work! love you guys! Keep on Trucking! PS: Sorry for the wall of text.
@bartoszrokosz2969
@bartoszrokosz2969 3 года назад
I'm surprised that either of them actually managed to stop being a Mercedes 😂
@Eren-he5dt
@Eren-he5dt 3 года назад
Yea, put a volvo there and see whats a modern truck really does
@camperando0016
@camperando0016 3 года назад
Vídeo mentiroso,mostra se o baú está carregado ou não.
@laurean5998
@laurean5998 3 года назад
Plot twist: the old truck still has its original tires
@Sn1perBeen23
@Sn1perBeen23 2 года назад
respect for the look and performance of all those old and modern trucks out there
@anunggaming
@anunggaming 3 года назад
nice brake test video :)
@pavelurbanek6068
@pavelurbanek6068 3 года назад
In fact we didn´t see the concrete blocks behind new truck. The trailer could be empty. So it could be fake. Which means very bad job from DEKRA.
@followyourbliss101
@followyourbliss101 3 года назад
same thing is typically true for old cars vs newer cars... yet people are stupid and love to cut off an old crappy looking car not thinking about the fact it's going to ram them up the backend if they have to stop short.
@zoidsfan77
@zoidsfan77 3 года назад
I'd still take the old truck of course.
@Steve1766
@Steve1766 3 года назад
me too
@Lgtg1947
@Lgtg1947 3 года назад
Retired at 68 lady trucker here. I watched a RU-vid vid a few months ago showing a school bus dropping kids off at a stop on a busy, fast flowing highway. One young boy ran around the front of the bus, straight into the path of an artic/18 wheeler travelling around 40+ mph. Cant recall the make of the truck but couldn’t believe how the driver brought it to an almost instant stop before hitting that kid. The whole truck and trailer reared up. Alert driver and new fangled braking systems saved that kids life and a families lifetime grief 🙏
@ilkkak3065
@ilkkak3065 3 года назад
The one I saw it was Volvo FH.
@NemesisRTCW
@NemesisRTCW 3 года назад
@@ilkkak3065 It was, from Ukrainian transport company Fleiss.
@freevideos051
@freevideos051 3 года назад
The new truck had smoke from the braking wheels ect. the old one did not, seems odd. how old were the brake pads on the old truck?
@Frost_Saber
@Frost_Saber 3 года назад
looks sus to me, like the old one wasn't braking as hard as it could
@barzinimongo
@barzinimongo 3 года назад
Because the brakes on the old truck is just much worse and doesnt brake as hard, thats why there isnt any smoke, not hard to understand, the old truck just performaned bad due to its inferior technology in brakes and braking system. They are trying to show the difference in the new vs old technology and brakes and brakes should behave the same even if they arent new as long as they isnt completly worn out.
@freevideos051
@freevideos051 3 года назад
@@barzinimongo You can't compare wore out brakes to new ones then the test is fake.
@barzinimongo
@barzinimongo 3 года назад
@@freevideos051 I highly doubt they are worn out, were do people get that impression, you do know what worn out means right? Theres a difference in worn and worn out and in most of the cases the brakes should function the same worn or new, if they are worn OUT I can understand it, but they are probably not, just accept already that modern tech is better then 90s tech.
@florichi
@florichi 3 года назад
Drumbrakes vs Diskbrakes. A F1 car smokes too, but wouldn't with a closed system like drumbrakes.
@bruh949
@bruh949 3 года назад
You see I hate Imperial measurement system for Fahrenheit, feet and ounces and pounds but I love miles and MPH much more better efficient than Kilometres and KMPH.
@Jehty_
@Jehty_ 3 года назад
How can a unit of measurement be more efficient? And what makes mph more efficient than kph? Other than that you are used to the one?
@dmytrogubskyi4355
@dmytrogubskyi4355 3 года назад
The only thing "better" about it is that you got used to it. Other than that: 1km=1000m. 1m=1000mm. 1mile=1760 yards. 1yard=3 ft, 1ft=12inches... As ameasurment sysytem it's a complete mess.
@EdgewithHedge
@EdgewithHedge 3 года назад
The driver in the old truck should have pump and release the brake multiple times, then it would have stopped more efficiently
@florichi
@florichi 3 года назад
Why would he do that if the wheels never locked up?
@shadowman3591
@shadowman3591 3 года назад
Modern automatic braking systems are flawed although I don't own a truck I drive a 2020 Toyota corolla amd wnen driving on a curved road the cars parked on the opposite side of the road will initiate the braking. I now have to shut that feature off every time I use that road. Stop doing it for us you stupid manufacturers.
@mickadatwist1620
@mickadatwist1620 3 года назад
people still whine how everything was better in the 80s and 90s
@iangould9458
@iangould9458 3 года назад
Lots of things were better in the 80s and 90s!!!! Truck brakes are clearly not one of them!!!
@Depytat96
@Depytat96 3 года назад
да на старом просто все суппорта закисшие были )))
@МихаилИванов-ц1ю
@МихаилИванов-ц1ю 3 года назад
Взяли бы какой-нибудь камаз арбузтранса на тест с полной загрузкой, ебать бы они охерели наверное)) Первый раз - пока разгоняли до 80, второй - когда попытались бы остановить ;3
@mariusromania442
@mariusromania442 3 года назад
Can U Test all The Truckcs from Europe ???can u stop all smarthphones ???
@juniodamascoalmeidacosta189
@juniodamascoalmeidacosta189 3 года назад
😕 tinha que ser baú nós dois caminhões já que tinham? a mesma carga,,,.
@merdanchee
@merdanchee 3 года назад
Now, compare with modern Volvo truck 🚛
@Steve1766
@Steve1766 3 года назад
chinese owned new volvo
@Steve1766
@Steve1766 3 года назад
old mercedes easy win
@zeincexxx1285
@zeincexxx1285 3 года назад
Makes me think why they haven't got the same trailer
@GicN
@GicN 3 года назад
Because this trailer didn't exist around the time of the old trailer (thus it's impossible to pair these because it wil make it unfair due to the combination of old and new).
@florichi
@florichi 3 года назад
I think the purpouse of this test is to show how stupid the regulations about speedlimits on german overland streets are. They were founded when those old trucks were around, and were never updated to justify the advancements. Back then 60km/h was alright, but now 70 or 80 would be alright too.
@Arctic_silverstreak
@Arctic_silverstreak 3 года назад
Imagine the brake screeching on the old one
@PhantomMark
@PhantomMark 3 года назад
Having driven both generations of this truck the test is very valid, whining about showing the inside of the curtain, and swapping trailers.......anyone who has driven both generations will attest how much better the braking is in the newer trucks. Dekra is one of the few independent organisations I actually trust. Rather suspect a lot of these comments are coming from wannabe truck drivers from ETS2 !!!!
@alkalinebass
@alkalinebass 3 года назад
no doubt about the brakes. BUT: the SK will deliver where the MP4 is calling workshop to fix electronic errors....we had an NG with OM423LA (V10 - 500hp). the rust killed the cab, so it was replaced with an Actros. one year later the Actros was replaced by an MAN. because this truck works like a MAN, not like a diva. still missing the V10. one of our suppliers still runs a SK. "it runs without problems, why should i buy a new one?"
@brysonvollenhoven2852
@brysonvollenhoven2852 3 года назад
Just curious about this test as the trailer brakes also has a huge impact in fact the brakes of the trailer caries the load of what's within it the trucks brakes allows for both to come to a controlled stop ... Why is it two different trailers ?
@TheRazvy1990
@TheRazvy1990 3 года назад
And we want NEW BRAKES for both of the truks .....you know....marketing....new=,,better"
@DrEddyNephario
@DrEddyNephario 3 года назад
Volvo will do it in 4seconds
@joydeepsharma1
@joydeepsharma1 3 года назад
They both didn't apply brakes at the same time.
@Wintercourse
@Wintercourse 3 года назад
To all the people saying switch trailer, switch drivers, switch gender, switch planets for variance of gravitational anomalies. I am certain the company didn't just wing the video in 1 minute and 12 seconds and that was all the effort put into it. They wanted to make a statement about safety and how future technology has improved it. They made their point, there didn't have to be a 45 minute in depth video. I think we can all believe technology on trucks has improved. They just gave us a simple example. I mean if this is a conspiracy then who cares, more than likely when it counts the roads are icy anyways.
@edd1325
@edd1325 3 года назад
This is stupid, what is in the curtainsider? and,....the Actros is new.
@dzrdr65
@dzrdr65 3 года назад
Dry pavement, straight line thats fine. I still do not want the computer doing what it think's I want instead of what I asked for, Pot holes and snow in new england and the abs system isn't worth a f**k.These systems are fine for 4 wheelers that have no clue what they are doing, but they should not be driving truck. Bad enough the driver's of truck they are putting out now can't do what us older driver's can.
@florichi
@florichi 3 года назад
OMG, all those dumb comments. "If they would use the same trailer, and the same tires, and the same brakes and and and and.... the same components, so the old truck is equiped with all new tech it would have the same distance, duh". Again: The point is to test 2 vehicles of two different eras with their current technology and not new vs old with all new parts.
@thedriver3103
@thedriver3103 3 года назад
Und wenn der Lkw in X Jahren in nach 15m zum stehen kommt, 60 auf Landstraßen für LKW wird bleiben.
@curtisjackson40
@curtisjackson40 3 года назад
Richtig so. Und wenn der Lkw in X Jahren nach 10m zum stehen kommt wird es immernoch regelmäßig Lkws geben die aufs Stauende auffahren weil die Fahrer alles machen nur nicht auf den Verkehr zu achten.
@thedriver3103
@thedriver3103 3 года назад
@@curtisjackson40 Und wenn es in X Jahren immer noch kein Tempolimit von 100km/h gibt, werden Autofahrer weiterhin drängeln, aggressiv fahren und schwere Unfälle durch Ablenkung am Smartphone durch WhatsApp Instagram etc. verursachen, weil Autofahrer alles andere machen als sich auf das Fahren zu konzentrieren.
@slappymcface5681
@slappymcface5681 3 года назад
There’s a difference between a 20 year old truck and a 20 year old truck with 20 year old brake pads. Truck break technology hasn’t changed much in 20 years, the only difference is ABS really
@sgxbot
@sgxbot 10 месяцев назад
it has gotten a lot better. back then the abs would lock up and unlock the tire multiple times per second. today the tires dont even lock up anymore when above 5 kmh or something like that.
@weeardguy
@weeardguy 10 месяцев назад
@@sgxbot That most likely has more to do to with high speed electronics than anything else: when ABS works its magic, huge, HUGE currents flow through the electrical system as it tries to regulate braking power as good as possible. Besides a possible 'arm system for impact' (deploy airbags), this is the sole reason the audiosystem in a car can stop working when doing an emergency stop (did such a stop on purpose once on an empty motorway, doing 80 km/h (had just sped up coming from the slip road, and the sound system immediately stopped working as soon as I fully braked). Electronics have improved so significantly in speed, efficiency and such that the computers are now far faster and (thus) far more able to keep the wheels from temporarily locking up. If the same ABS system would be fitted on the newer truck, it would have the same outcome as on the old truck.
@sgxbot
@sgxbot 10 месяцев назад
@@weeardguy that actually has not much to do with the faster electronics because its the sensors that are required to detect the amount of slippage etc that hasnt been around back then.
@theenglishtrucker1849
@theenglishtrucker1849 3 года назад
Having driven numerous different Merc Actros's I have to say they model in this video has terrible brakes. DPD use them, and apparently use genuine Merc brake pads, (I asked a mechanic whilst working there). You press the pedal and initially it feels good, but then feel like its not going to stop. The older Actros (Euro 5) the brakes felt great. I wouldn't like to drive that old banger of a truck in this video though, having just watched it trying to stop.
@foxliving7434
@foxliving7434 3 года назад
Who else with even basic vehicle knowledge noticed the guy in the older truck wasn't even trying to stop fast older trucks don't have abs so have a quicker skidding stop but that puts more wear and tear on the truck thats why they aded abs to save people money since the truck in this video didn't drag even a single tire but the new truck did either the breaks are faulty and don't work so the vid isn't a good even comparison or they did it on purpose to pretend newer trucks are better at stopping also the kind of tire has a huge impact on how fast a vehicle can stop so of course they left that out
@GulliJ
@GulliJ Год назад
Would like to see sale test with same semi for braking performance of loaded semi and really diff on tractor. Must be less huge even bot changing the evolution
@gab3617
@gab3617 2 года назад
Actros 2017 with empty trailer and SK 1997 with trailer full of "something"...switch and do it again!
@alex16hertz
@alex16hertz 5 месяцев назад
The older model uses drum brakes, instead of newer model using disc brakes
@bumblebob5979
@bumblebob5979 3 года назад
Change the 20 year old brake pads and discs on the old worn truck and trailer and the video gets removed from youtube. Worn always looses over fresh and new.
@takoyaki-gq1qj
@takoyaki-gq1qj Год назад
Both truck are good and safe enought to drive. if you can't control old one only because it has less strong brake then new one, it skill issue :p
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