As if John Riccitello being former CEO of EA wasn't bad enough, he once said that game developers who didn't put microtransactions in their games were "f***ing idiots". He's also the guy who pitched the "let's charge $1 per reload in multiplayer shooters" idea. Can't believe he found a way to beat both of those downright evil things.
Whats worse is the full context is, he said "once gamers are an hour or more into a session, we could realistically charge $1 per reload without any backlash". He honestly believed people were that gullible and that they could make serious money doing it.
Unity's FORMER!!! CEO also came out and said "mobile developers that don't prioritize microtransactions are fucking morons". Are we surprised that a guy like that is criminally greedy?
This is the same guy who was in charge of EA during some of their most money hungry years(and that's fucking saying something considering it's EA) so that tracks
@@TrashBin2126 he won't be for long. He's 100% under investigation for insider trading after this latest stunt. You don't get to take charge of a company, get paid in stock options, then dump your shares right before making an announcement that tanks your market value
Personally, this would prolly make me listen to it. Making jokes about current events is the only thing that has made me cope during these serious times.
Unity didn't shoot themselves on the foot, they shot themselves on the head. Unity died, that's their twitching corpse refusing to let the soul go but it's already dead.
Honestly even if they replace the CEO they have destroyed all trust and any respect they've built up over the companies time. The only way I can see them recovering is firing that guys ass making a hard about face on this decision and they honestly might have to rebrand entirely, the name Unity has been stained by this announcement and I really don't know if it can ever fully recover from this
Fortunately, he said that he's not going back to Unity regardless. I'm sure that even with a learning curve for Unreal Engine, he'll make fantastic games :>
@@LaurenT3Gyeah a lot of developers are likely never going back to Unity even if they stop this change. Unity has lost all of the trust and respect they've built up over the years with this one move because the people using it and even people just playing the games have just been viscerally reminded that this is a big company that does not care about us and would bleed us dry if it meant getting an extra cent out of us and they can't be trusted not to do so and not to alter their contracts
Mark mastered Unreal Engine in two hours (done it in a Corridor Crew episode where he got pitted against Sean aka Jack). And Mark has zero programming experience. This made possible by Unreal's Blueprints system and the fact that you can buy someone else's code directly from the Unreal Marketplace (yeah, there are people who readily sell pre-made code for UE). I'm sure Lixian can master it faster and do more with it.
@@potawatadingdong the problem being that it takes time to learn and master other engines, which is a huge drawback for releasing games of a standard quality.
Johnny Richettello is an outright inspiration for one of the antagonist of No More Heroes: Travis Strikes Back/ one of the primary antagonist of No More Heroes 3, who shares his surname, exclusively due to Sudan 51's (guy who directed the original MNH as well as a few other notable niche cult classics) horrible experience of trying to work with this man, with his creative vision constantly being shafted for things that Mr. EA thought would appeal to the broadest market which I think should enough info to highlight how bad he is. Basically he's one of the biggest reasons for why EA is what it is today, and it has been miserable seeing his exploits.
FR? Me gotta check that out alongside with Succession, but I'll need some SERIOUS pallet cleanser for detoxification after watching those. ...Got any feel-good cartoon series you can recommend maybe?
I'm glad that I decided to go with Unreal Engire for a game that I've been working on. I didn't want to go with Unity at first and thought about trying it out in the future. Now I won't be trying it out at all with this bullshit. I feel bad for the game developer who uses Unity, especially Lixian who had used Unity in the past.
I think the creators of Terraria put a middle finger to unity by announcing they would be donating a crap ton to another studio monthly or something like that. I don't remember the exact details though
No it's the almighty dollar not his bank account. Just chasing after that big green paper...Greed will always be ones downfall@@genericyoutubecommenter589
You don’t get it: the current Unity lead is so corrupt and greedy EA FIRED HIM. EA said his methods were to greedy, like he was gonna charge for MAGAZINES IN BATTLEFIELD
Paraphrasing: "An hour into a session, gamers aren't going to care if you charge a dollar a reload." "Mobile devs who don't prioritize monetization and micro-transactions are f**king morons!"
Wow, its as if they didnt havr ghost of a thought of how this would inpact their folowing. Ether someone played them to ruin their reputation, or they dont know much about how their company got as big as it did.
Unity (or CEO, EA descendant, if we go into specifics) acts like that one popular kid, who treats his coolness as a trading token and thinks that it could be brought back with ease
Always remember that investors are the ones that destroy everything they touch developers don't wish to destroy the craft or squander their name but their hands are forced by such investors who believe they know best and after the Destroyer company they have little the consequence of it leaving the place Pockets full.
Hope Unity enjoys being one of the top two because they won't be long if they go through with this... My two favorite mobile games (same devs) are scrambling because their game is entirely free. They have In Application Purchases (IAPs), but the whole game can be done without a single penny spent and they want to keep their games that way. Now though they're in a panic because if this goes through, they won't be able to afford to pay their staff. They've been entirely open with their game community on Discord about all of this and it's been heart breaking to watch how stressed they are. They've been so excited too about their development progress and teasing upcoming features. Now all of that has to go on the back burner because Unity wants to make a quick buck on these fees before they decimate the dev market. They only care about the short term gain and aren't bothering to consider how bad it will be for them once everyone either gets run out of development due to unreasonable fees or swaps to a new engine and abandons them. Learning a new engine can be real rough, but they've made it the only option for so many smaller devs. They seem to assume people will just 'deal with it' because they have no choice, except they DO have a choice... Go out of business or learn a new engine. Pretty sure I know which one I would pick if I were a dev. Waiting for a rival of Unity to prey upon this terrible decision to lure devs to them.
Unity has destroyed their own business with an incredibly low amount of effort. Gamers will forgive and forget anything after a good 1 minute cinematic. Developers who are building their entire careers around an engine, however, will never forget or forgive a company trying to retroactively screw them over.
Isn't what he's doing technically fraud? Also i do not see this working out how the dumbass CEO wants it to. Especially if distractible is talking about it and getting the word out to others. Besides even this new TOS they put out can get them sued and they would more than likely lose more than they would've gained. Unity needs to kick this guy out on to the curb, completely rescind everything he's changed and apologize again afterwards. He has screwed them over HARD.
Theres quite a few big names that run on unity. If they really wanna put in that decision they'll have to fight microsoft, sony, and nintendo. This decision alone is pissing off EVERYBODY
Then there’s games where it’s been around for years and you straight up forgot was made on unity like RimWorld where it has over a million copies sold with that number only growing. That could possibly bankrupt the company, and what are you supposed to do with no money? Delete the game? That won’t work because pirating is still around and you know people will keep installing the game that way, and if unity keep can track of that, you’ve basically put someone into a constant debt with no control.
God i hope for the sake of the indie (and to a lesser extent, the corporate) game development sphere that unity backs the fuck up on this decision. I can't say enough how fucked up something like what they're trying is. Makes sense if the guy calling shots is an ex-EA guy tho. Smh... they've got two and a half months to denounce that policy before they completely fall off the market entirely.
the unity licensing model was problematic from the start. it just gives them too much power over developers who use their platform, which they just should not ever have. i'm not really surprised they just decided to screw over their customers for money, and i just hope that migration tools exist or are being developed to move to better platforms such as godot.
They broke my heart and it made me stop working on my game entirely. I'm currently switching engines but they've broken my trust and any faith in them that I could have had. I am never going to trust them again after this, and honestly it was such a scummy thing to do to their consumers and smaller studios. The amount of effort it will take to learn another engine from the ground up is daunting and they know that so they assume people will just stay with Unity, little do they know I am powered by spite.
i was (lightly) working on making my own game as well, and had very high hopes for Unity being the ideal for it. Even with their backpedaling, I have swapped off of their platform entirely - apparently Godot is being seen as a commonly-agreed-upon sidestep, if it helps to know a nice alternative.
I really hope it works out 😢 what is your game called or what is it about? I would love to check it out in the future or something. I know its dumb, but hearing about these changes I suddenly just felt so bad about small game developers and just how many might have to just give up on their projects they've worked on. I want to support them
It was a silent hill style game with puzzles and maybe amnesia inspired elements with concepts of abstract horror and surrealism. I don't have a proper name for it yet, and I am currently writing out the plot so I may end up starting a new project and deciding to work on a different style of game entirely but in the meanwhile, I am working on other projects all the time and haven't really gotten a full game finished but I'll get there one day, just definitely not with Unity. @@alkimia1791
I've been tossing a lot of small ideas around with little progress, but the main idea I am trying to keep focused on is a procedural-generated world with a few static towns and cities; the "universe" of the game will have collapsed, apart from the "islands of stability" with small camps to explore. I don't have a working title of any kind yet, so it would definitely be a long ways out.
Side note, they later came out and said that for game pass and similar services, they’d charge the distributer. They were gonna charge Microsoft and Sony for Game Pass/Playstation Plus downloads. I’d have loved to see the reaction/lawsuit.
Fun fact: By selling a bunch of their stock before making the announcement they committed an actual crime. So there's a real good change the board could go to jail for insider trading!
@@gabrielpineirogarcia2078all they gotta do is lean on members of the board and I guarentee someone will roll over and testify in exchange for immunity. Happens all the time.
Believe me announcements and talks for this sort of thing Go on for months up to a year before they even make any kind of announcement. It starts out as a good idea fairy. And then it starts to gain traction. And then the CEO goes you know I really think this is a bad idea but I want to go for a money grab so we're going to push it but also hey jimothy could you please sell 5,000 shares of mine in from the company Yes Yes I'm selling 5,000 shares I'll talk to you in about 6 weeks and we'll sell another $5,000
@@AdmiralStoicRumPretty sure That he Set those Stocks to Be sold A year Ago, like, Most corps Do that. But you Are right, These plans Were months In the Making, up To like, 2-3 years. It just Takes a Little extra Planning.
@@ShreddedWombat Yes, but this is even worse because unlike D&D, which can be appreciated as a stand alone general product by the average consumer, Unity is a tool. This is like demanding a cut of ticket sales because a painting was made with your company's paint.
@@corbeaudejugement They tried to re-write the OGL that said specifically you couldn't re-write it. There was a huge amount of backlash, a lot of inside information came about on how the higher ups treat customers and their own workers, Paizo jumped on the opportunity by releasing Pathfinder 2.0, it's own OGL included. Eventually they just relented and said "Fine, we won't do it. #### you all". While not exactly what they said, they were definitely backhanded about it
Re-Logic, the creators behind Terraria, were so pissed about this move by Unity, they made an announcement stating that they will be donating $100,000 each to Godot, FNA, and Monogame on top of a $1,000/month sponsorship to them in order to ensure these platforms stay free and accessible to aspiring developers
Friendly Reminder that Unity is not the problem, its CEO is. People working on Unity got the news first and were also against those changes, but management told them theyd answer their questions. Then They made the announcement public behind their backs. Remember also that before this Shit went down the CEO pre-emptively dumped a couple millions from actions on Unity. He knew the effect It was going to have on the company and sank It to make a profit.
This is the same CEO who ran EA. His crimes includes - loot boxes in EA Sports titles - wanted to make reloading weapons in Battlefield a one use DLC (meaning: you need to pay each time you want to reload). - SimCity 2013's always online requirement - Christmas rushing The Sims 4 and forcing them to cut content just to make it (also, babies are mere objects). - the latter 2 caused the death of sub-studio Maxis. This is the kind of evil we're dealing with.
@@RAMChYLD Wait, Maxis is dead??? Who the hell is the ghost who keeps the Spore servers up then? I thought it was a Maxis employee that was in time out, or haunting one of the towers. What, is the whole studio haunted???
@@theworldoflivvy3150 most likely "The Sims Studios", previously a child company of Maxis that has been restructured to be directly under EA after Maxis was taken out to the back and shot.
Aww, don't be so harsh on them. Corporations are people, too, y'know, and are just as susceptible to making bad decisions and having bad character like any other "people" based on their definition. Footnote: that was sarcasm, BTW.
unity has been doing scummy stuff for over a year now, a year ago there was drama about them merging with ironSource (a company that had history with malware), and about the CEO of Unity calling all game devs who do not prioritize monetization in their games "fucking idiots" (word to word)
I hope I never know what it’s like to be driven only by greed. Must be a sad, sad existence. Those types of CEOs always seem like empty shells in designer suits.
That's not even the full story. There was gonna be an under the table kinda deal that as long as you use IS' ad system or something instead of other partners they can subsidize the runtime payment. Probably not fully accurate, please do your research before trusting me
this is the same CEO that run EA during EA's worst times. Of course he would do this. He's such a sad, sad man. He should be in jail for insider trading but no.
@@RAMChYLD He was the one who brought up the idea of charging money for RELOADING. His reasoning was "when you're in the middle of a battle you don't care that much so of course you're gonna pay" which is stupid. He was fired from EA for being greedy, and considering how greedy EA normally is, that should say a ton
That's absolutely disgusting. Greed is what's killing just about everything at this point. I hope this backfires as horribly as possible on those assholes.
It’s just how publicly traded companies are. The shareholders hold all the power and their primary concern is to pump their stocks before selling off. All they want to hear is that their stocks are going through the roof, not necessarily the long term well being since they can always jump ship by selling. A successful but stagnant company is useless to investors who want to, in the end, get as much out of what they invested. Success doesn’t matter, only the all-important growth. This incentives short term thinking within management to always increase profits no matter the cost so they don’t get in trouble. They keep pumping and pumping, inevitably pushing out shit like this until it backfires and the investors then turn around to complain about the situation they started,
The guy behind the decision definitely knew that this would backfire hard and sold his shares before then to still get his money out before the stocks dropped, he legit ruined the company's trust and shareholds in order to make him the only one getting dough while everyone else gets screwed over in the end of the crossfire. Idc how many people used Unity, it's now as bad as EA and Activision/Blizzard in my eyes and the game devs deserve better after all of that
Standard deal in the world right now. Basically good company does good things and grows. Gets bought or grows beyond management ability of starting people. Greedy people with connections to other greedy people do shady stuff and make lots of money from the hardworking people. I hope they don't wonder why quality of life isn't improving and we Basically stopped making real advancements. Too many fearful leaders focused only on maintaining the status quo and protecting their fragile egos
This isn't just killing the golden goose, this is killing it, shitting on it's corpse, then summoning demons to drag the mess down to hell, and wondering why bystanders are scared and upset by your actions
The CEO sells lots of shares of his own company, then puts in policy that is obviously going to backfire. Deliberately acting against his own company for personal financial gain. It just feels illegal, don't know if it is though...
The only term I hear on such topics is ‘Insider Trading’, but I never looked into the exacts of that. As far as I know, it absolutely is illegal, but I definitely don’t have a deep understanding on it
@@ObsessedwithZelda2 They actually talked about this later in the segment. Not terribly well versed in this sort of thing myself, so I'm mostly quoting Bob, but this IS insider Trading and is SUPER, go-to-jail-do-not-pass-go illegal. Sadly, there is a chance the CEO might get off scott free as he was trading earlier in the year instead of only selling stock right before the policy was announced. Fortunately, some other board members didn't establish said pattern, are much more likely to be found guilty, and could point the finger at their boss in exchange for a plea bargain.
I work in the finance industry with several licenses. The selling shares thing pisses me off it’s straight up insider trading which is very illegal but because it’s so hard to prove without a whistleblower who has hard documentation, rich people and politicians get away with it all the time by saying it was unrelated.
@@bleh329 been reading some comments, and apparently some pokemon games were made using unity, so if unity goes and changes their terms for their already established deals, well...we *all* know how spooky japanese lawyers can be.
Not only have those game companies made statements, the developers of Terraria made a huge announcement that they were donating $10,000 to Godot and FNA. It was also promised they would be maintaining a monthly donation of $1,000 to give the new engines a chance to advance and rival Unity.
@@Oshroth I would hope some of that money also, in SOME way, goes into making public content to help educate ex unity users on how to use the engines. I'm not saying "this money isn't enough" or anything, it's amazing. But that this money will be wasted if no one knows how to use the engine and there's no good resources to learn. To be more specific, I hope these companies getting the money use some of it on guides. Let unity burn to the ground, but I want the transition to be as smooth as possible for devs.
I speculated about a ban specifically for CEOs who had involvement in a corporations downfall or made money prior to the business going bankrupt, like the CEO is not allowed to touch another business as CEO for 10yrs and someone replied saying no it should be a permanent ban... AND now I'm thinking yeah you know you're right it SHOULD be a permanent ban AND they should be fined the money they made before they left and that money should go to the employees who have now lost their jobs or ability to do their jobs due to the CEOs decisions. We are in some dogcrap era of real creep spineless money grabbing CEOs making everything from entertainment to life saving drugs harder for the average person to access and what the hell
I Hella agree, what he is doing is criminally sinister. I would say any CEO of any company should a Criminal background check, corruption investigation and also if they have anything that warrants removal from the company that should be removed immediately. Not to mention terms of removal are and because of their actions never be allowed to the board of directors, CEO, Chairman, CO-Chairman or any other leadership position in a company after the removal of position.
CEOs want all the profit of being the leader of a company but none of the responsibility. If they make a dumb decision that causes the company losses (and by extension causes people to lose their jobs) then the CEO should be responsible. Legally or financially. If they want to earn $100000000000000000 an hour, then they should have the level of stress of a military bomb defuser 24/7.
It all just boils down to greed. As always. You can't expect better out of someone who is incapable of creating anything worthwhile on their own. Wouldn't it be amazing if scum bags were actually held accountable for their actions?
And of course, it's not an exaggeration that the prominent lack of royalty fees *is the reason Unity got to where it is.* They would not be anywhere near as big a name in game development if they hadn't advertised the engine as royalty-free from the start. Then you get enough buy-in from people who've trusted you and sunk years of development onto it and you pull the rug out of them. Not even to mention the in-game advertisement bundling they then tried.
Unfortunately I doubt restrictions will ever take place as those who are owners of these companies will line the pockets of every legislature necessary to protect their own interests. Really we need lobbying to become illegal so that law making isn't dependent on which side can pay out more in the short term and is instead dependent on the ethicality and benefit of the law towards those it will affect. But the lawmakers will also vote in the best way to suit *their* *own* interests, and the more money they can make selling off their votes the happier they are. This is of course another effect of unchecked capitalism. For now those at the top see no reason to change the system to benefit the plebs, they'd loose money or at least not make it as fast as before if they did that. Perhaps another viva la revolution should occur.
This is an issue of Corporatism not Capitalism. Like, im doubting the INDIE studios wanted this, because it SEEMS the mega conglomerate is what did this. Also the reason these mega companies happen is BECAUSE of government regulations being made that strangle indies and coallesce power into the corporations. Capitalism and this are two VERY different things.
Because Government Regulation can never be corrupt…. The Market will handle Unity when Customers stop buying Unity products and Businesses stop using Unity as an engine. Unity will either back down after they lose too much money, or a competitor will rise up to replace it. Regulation is not required, when Customers are empowered. In fact installing Regulation takes control From the Customers and gives it to the Government.
What government regulations do you believe strangle indies and prevent competition. From what I can see it has nothing to do with government, it's just the natural result of unchecked, unregulated capitalism. @@Dodsodalo
This hurts me because I loved unity they were behind so many games that I absolutely adore including cult of the lamb so I am truly saddened to hear this but yes this is incredibly wrong of them
Nothing wrong with loving the engine, which is also why it's so painful for many of the developers: They liked it, and now question its future because the people owning the code have shown they are untrustworthy.
What is laughably stupid about this is Unity came out with multiple statements to clarify come confusion. There has never been any confusion. There has only been outrage about this non-sense.
I feel they've completely ruined trust with consumers and their reputation - whether temporarily or permanently, I'm not sure, but certainly enough to give them a huge slap in the face And if a game isn't near completion/already released, I do not blame anyone for shifting over to a new engine following this announcement, even if it means more time and money will be spent just relearning stuff I was considering learning game development and making a mobile game, one day (one that'd actually be a game suited for mobile, rather than console-quality stuff that requires a microscope to navigate via the tiny screens) Was gonna go for Unity, now will search for suitable alternatives - I hear godot is great, for example
For once, my struggle to start making games paid off. I dropped Unity long before these changes, and my friends were already using Godot. I will be okay, but not everyone will. I feel for those who have been nearly if not completely shafted by this blatant breach of not only trust but basic human decency. Businessmen do not make games, they make products, and that is why companies like Unity can't go on forever.
this hurts. Unity was my entry to making games, the tool I used through my formative years as a creator learning and working with other classmates in college to make great things together. it hurts to know other students won’t have that readily at their finger tips and all these indie devs now have to scramble to figure out what to do with all their hard work
As somebody learning game dev still, even though they reverted much of what made the new pricing structure problematic and made it entirely optional, unity has still been removed from my toolbox, it was the first engine I properly learned how to use, but I'm never going to use it again now that they've completely betrayed the trust of their entire community, if they'll do it once, they will do it again, and I'm not going to get stuck in the middle of that. Long live open source game engines! :D
Unity making this change made me and my friends literally shook in awe on the balls of these guys, we had just come out off College in Games design (Learning C# which is the coding language used in Unity) so this information if this whole thing burns down could be catastrophic for our future and would've been a massive waste of our time. We have already begun learning C++ to recover, I really hope this wont affect my portfolio as Unreal was not the taught Program however it will be self taught aka YT video's. My condolences for the other games dev's that have been making this change.
C++ isn't that hard to learn, I had zero background in programming and I picked up a working knowledge of it in about a month so you should be fine. Bro Code does some damn fine tutorials on multiple languages.
It can't be understated how big of a game engine Unity was. Like, over 50% of the market share for game engines. Unreal doesn't come close! Heck, from my understanding of Google Trends data, it seems that Godot (an open-source engine) got a bigger boost from this than Unreal did (probably because Godot is not gonna ever be able to pull this bs, it's lightweight, newer, can do 2D and 3D, can do C# which is what Unity users are used to, and has a closer vibe to Unity)
I was really excited to start learning in unity but a couple weeks after I downloaded it, they released this message. I don't expect anything I create to become popular if I even release it but in case a miracle happens, I don't want to pay that fee
FROM WHAT I’VE HEARD, Unity has since rolled the changes back and implemented a new, more fair set of changes. It will start at a million downloads and a million dollars in revenue, the fans devs will keep track of the install count, and it won’t be retroactive; previous Unity games will not be affected. That being said, this only fixes the immediate problems. The trust is still destroyed horribly, possibly beyond repair, and it’d be wise for people to learn a new engine regardless of how long that may take. There’s no way Riccitello WOULDN’T try this kind of thing again, and many people just do not wanna take that risk. Perhaps we can collectively give Unity a second chance, but only after Ricitiello either steps down as CEO or gets fired from the position. Until then: don’t even bother with Unity. Hopefully there’s a big class-action lawsuit coming his way soon, and Suda51 made an expy of Riccitello as the final boss of No More Heroes 3. We should’ve heeded that warning.
They have walked back a lot of it, including their plan to retroactively charge devs, (which was going to get them sued,) and say anything being developed on their current version won't be subject to the new fees, but as soon as someone updates their unity they will be. So...finish the projects you have now, and start learning a new engine.
@@FirsonaYou're going to see a lot of devs remaining on old LTS versions of Unity because of this. They've shot themselves in the foot in regards to new adoption.
I’m so used to them doing hypotheticals that for the first minute or two I genuinely didn’t think this was real and just thought “wow that’s such a ridiculous idea”
Being taught both unity and unreal as assessments. I prefer working in unity, but this change scares me and my classmates (and probably our lecturers too)
It really did sound like a small fee, but then you do the math and like,,,,25 million possible free users multiplied by 20 cents is. 5 million dollars 💀
as someone whos an inspiring game developer and spent most of his free time learning all he could with coding on unity, it seriously hurt my soul when i first heard this. I entirely hope they backtrack and decide to not do this at all. I seriously do not want to waste the time i spent and dont want to lose what progress ive already made just to pack up and move on like some hobo
I’ve been fuming about this for weeks now. There is no logic or trust behind anything up at Unity HQ. As a game dev, as a creator. Fuck. You. Stay strong fellow indie devs
Not using Unity now. 20 cents a download regardless if the game is free or not? Yeah, no. Unreal Engine will suit my game project just fine, thank you. And if not them, then someone else, literally anyone else but Unity at this point.
Can't see them recovering from this. Even if they back pedaled, fired the CEO and anyone else backing the idea, and do a big show of all the good new people they have and how much they support game makers, trust is broken. Enough people are gonna jump ship that there's no going back even if they change.
What he’s doing seems to ACTUALLY be a legit crime called “insider trading”. Other comments discuss it more and I barely know what it is. People say that politicians do it but it’s hard to convince a court that the person is actually guilty because they could’ve just felt like selling stock at that time or they sold stock far earlier so it’s hard to relate that spent money to present events.
What shocks me is that another company, Wizards of the coast who owns dungeons and dragons, tried to do almost exactly this earlier this year in febuary to the exact same result. Broken trust, outraged fans and developers, and everyone getting ready to abandon ship. The biggest thing is that a choice like this establishes the president that they can change the rules whenever they want. This is by every regard the biggest red flag you could ever have.
To be fair, the idea that they can change the rules at any time is baked into nearly every ToS agreement you've ever (not) read. They include that kind of language intentionally because they know that: 1) Most customers are not going to read the ToS because it's written in borderline-incomprehensible legalese. 2) Even the ones who do read it and don't like it will probably accept anyway because they have few or no viable alternatives. What we're seeing here is the end result of short-sighted stupidity chasing an unattainable goal. Most corporations now operate on the infinite growth model, meaning that no matter what they must make more money every quarter than they did in the last quarter; this is not actually possible, or even sustainable, over the long term but they're incentivized to do it anyway because of their investors. That's why so many CEOs of major corporations come across as ignorant or outright incompetent; they ARE ignorant or outright incompetent. These boards of directors want yes men that will do any stupid thing as long as it brings in more dollars _right now,_ long-term profitability and sustainability be damned. The only silver lining to this is that it _isn't_ sustainable, so you're likely going to see more and more of these corporations wither and fall apart over the next 10-15 years or so.
@@dudeistpriest787 Everything you say is totally correct, but its besides the point I was trying to make. When your a game developer (video games or table top) and your using the foundation of another company through an agreement, you stop being a customer and start being a partner. Most don't see it this way (the providing company especially in these cases) but you are both providing a service to others in which the two parties will profit off of. Those with experience (and a legal team) will seek contracts that cannot be changed without the approval of both parties, because putting yourself at the mercy of another bigger company who can change the rules is business suicide. "I've changed the deal, pray I don't change it further." Unity and Wotc, be it from the start or only realizing the option after the fact, put their developer into a trap no reasonable person saw coming, and sprung it with dollars in their sight. I definitely didn't see it coming, and I think most people reading this didn't either. I hoped after Wotc's ogl controversy that this kind of thing would be avoided. But with unity I'm clearly incorrect.
@@dudeistpriest787 yes and no as most nations including the US have protection from this pr more correct you can make edits but it can't be a complete redesign that claw is there for stuff like this piece was poorly worded a spirit vs written kind of deal. what unity tried to do would not fly in EU court.
@@Zack_Wester I get what you're saying, but we're talking about a billion-dollar corporation making a massive change to a long-standing legal agreement. There's no doubt in my mind that their lawyers were involved in this, and the fact that they went ahead with it tells me that their legal team either didn't see a problem, or they were confident they could win a court case. If the public backlash hadn't been strong enough to make them backpedal, the courts and the law probably wouldn't have given as much protection as you think.
I was going to use Unity to design my games but now Idk, its hard enough gaming companies are milking every game with battle passes, deluxe, pay for cosmetics that cost more than the game itself or monthly subscription, let alone I have even seen companies deny peoples game they made then later create it stealing a persons idea. I believe in fun and listening to the community because if it wasn’t for the gaming community none of those companies would of made it if it wasn’t for us. But I’ll leave my rant there lol, love you all and hope for those making games the best of luck and nothing but good fortune ahead and don’t give up!
Little update from the future everybody. John Richitello has stepped down as acting CEO of Unity and they have backtracked on their policy. Existing games using unity will not be subjected to this new policy and only new games will. Developers using Unity to make new games will have a choice to either unity getting 2.5 percent of revenue the game makes OR the $0.20 per install policy. The threshold a game has to pass has been upped from $200,000 to $1 Million before either policy is enacted. They still have it listed that if a developer chooses the $0.20 per install policy that is also counts REINSTALLATIONS. So if a game is subject to that policy and someone buys, downloads, deletes and reinstalls that game the developer would be charged TWICE still. It is still really shitty that they even have the second original option available but at least SOMETHING came from the outcry from gamers and developers.
Lots of new developers are going to be learning Unreal this year... and just when I thought I too would try my hand at developing games in this - what a waste of time it must be for most people.
I feel like less games are gonna be available on game pass now because of this. Microsoft isn't gonna pay a very high price for unity games that aren't super incredibly popular. And unfortunately I don't blame them this time. This move by unity is bogus and driven by the urge to line pockets.
Even as someone who hasn’t had very much direct involvement in the gaming ecosystem, with the most gaming I’ve indulged in recently being a few hours on roblox a month, I can confidently say that this sucks. There’s no way in hell any sane person in unity actually wants this change to go through, they just have an money hungry dragon breathing down their neck that will turn them to ashes if they say anything about it. It honestly sucks that so many good games and studios are being fixed into this position, all because of one asshole that has money as a normal part of his diet.
What sucks is that the CEO of Unity was also the CEO of EA. This is the guy that tried to make reloading in Battlefield a one use paid DLC and he was fired from EA for being too greedy.
so the idiot that basically started the wildfire of Microtransaction and lootbox hell is turning one of the biggest and most widely used game engines in basically another one of these Wildfires. The same man that basically said "if you dont have microtransactions in your game, if you dont got lootboxes in your game, you're a moron who dont understand the game business". Its absolutely devastating to really find out how damaging this can be to companies and their products. As someone with no understanding with the games market or game development, i can still see that this is just another wildfire waiting to get a Dollar sign shaped Spark onto the first dry leaf. John Riccitello, from what i have seen and heard of him, is the Game Market's equivalent to the greedy capitalist stereotype. Someone who TRULY dont care for developers, dont care for gamers, dont care for polished products, and only wants Money in their pocket in every way possible, screwing over not only the consumers and gamers, but the developers of all these products under this engine. lets face it, in due time, Unity is gonna end up EXACTLY like the EA we all used to (and probably still for some) despise with a burning passion.
