Breath of the Wild - Not Enough Zelda 

congrats on the baby.

Congrats on the baby. Love your content.....hope to get lots more soon :)

Always so in depth and honest about it in a mattter-of-fact way. Fucking love your vids dude.

Congrats on the baby! Ringed City was pretty fun but it showed all the flaws in DS3's design for me, interested to see how you like it.

Joseph Anderson congrats dude! take your time, and take care xx

I almost made that joke again! But I figured it would be too soon after the last video. Thanks for saying this. I got a good laugh.

Omg I wish this was top comment LMAO

This should totally be your running gag. You started doing this seriously since FO4 afterall. Would be a cool tradition.

I would love that running gag

xdearlifex o.o He literally said it in the video as I read the comment. Word for word lol

Fortnite is CANCER He was acknowledging the good design and that the developers knew that player would catch that shrine in the distance and would want to jump off the bridge to get to it. It's good game design.

@@Hyde1415 both of those statements are true

Where is this bridge

@@DillsArtThing What statement? You mean Fortnite is CANCER? That was the persons name.

That's probably one of the more memorable NPCs in the game, yes. But like, he's a complete outlier.

So it's sorta like the other Zelda's. Lol

@@frogglen6350 have you played windwaker or twilight princess?Each area introduces a new enemy type and there’s a lot of variety in both games. There’s knights which are super fun to fight, unique minibosses, chus, bats, big goblins, little goblins, fire lizards, flaming skulls, sand worms, skeletons, mummies, spiders, rats, imps, ghosts, wolves, ghost wolves, clams, lizard men, jellyfish, sharks, flying pufferfish, and probably like 3 dozen more I’m forgetting.

@@crackswell606 so basically monsters from other games 👍🤔

@@frogglen6350 The argument was not about the originality of the monster designs. The argument was that there isn’t enough monster variety in BotW.

@Spencer Portwood "there isn't eNouGh MoNstErs" OK nostalgia drone. Here are the facts. botw has more enemy variations that overrated of time..Majora's Mid Mask, and Skyward Sword..And Twilight princess..

Right? I'd break an Ancient Sword on a camp full of enemies and get three Spiked Boko Clubs for my troubles, of which I could only carry one

EXACTLY

By the point I reached that scenario, I had already beaten the game and I was just loafing around so I didn't mind it

Depends on how thorough through the game you are. I reached that point much sooner and I hadn't even completed all of the shrines or all the sacred beasts yet.

@@zorinus3340 you could have one slot open for a weak weapon and only use that, when it get's broken use the next one from the enemy. That way you spare your good weapons.

Agreed. Especially when it seemed like at least half were repetitive combat trials or "blessing" shrines that had no content at all. The other 50% had puzzles, but a lot of the puzzles were ridiculously easy.

GhostedBear I feel like my perfect shrines was the one in which you were trapped on a desert island, and the one in the volcano, in the middle of the lava where you had to ride a minecart to get to it, and it was a quite fun torch one. I wish all the shrines were of that level, maybe next game

once you got inside a shrine... you just feel drained of all of the fun in the game... being trapped in a box room with a convoluted puzzle to solve gave me "Portal" Flashbacks. ...just Nintendo being Nintendo, i guess...

I'm a fan of this game, and to be perfectly honest I feel that while large parts of the game aren't great (watch The Completionist's video for that side of the story), most people are going to have a 10/10 experience with the game because they won't see the whole thing. Let me explain. When playing the game for the first time, I had marvelous moments of discovery with an unfinished map, and vast unknowns to discover. There were all sorts of little moments, like how I found a sacred pool near Hateno village that was a place to find love, or when i spotted a dragon and was like DUDE IT'S CHINESE!!!, or when I found myself trapped in a shaded forest, and basically one-shot a black hinox by accidentally climbing onto a ledge at the eye level of the beast and spinning a giant sword at the giant's eye (unbalenced, but it felt awesome!) Then I got bored and quit. Than I had an idea of acheving this experience again by making my own map instead of climbing the glorified Ubisoft towers. And I discovered what had been lost about 20 hours in when everyth ing became both easy and busywork. Sorry I digressed, but it was to display how my 10/10 experience didn't carry out through the entire game, but that experience was more than worth the price.

For me, at least. And if you feel that BotW wasn't designed for your kind of experience, or you feel that a rating should be on the whole rather than the sum of its parts, and take my word with as much salt as you like. P.S. I agree heartily with Jim Sterling on the broken weapons debacle (especially in master mode), and believe he was treated like the Anti-Christ for having a well supported contrarian opinion.

I've been playing for like, 50 hours now, and I cant find better clothes and armour. Now I'm doing it as a matter of pride, but I seriously want better clothing.

I got the shirt but somehow missed the parts and kept getting confused why all the npcs hated me xD

@@aviaviavian I really hope you found new armor by now lol

I'm currently trying to do a playthrough without clothes and only the base 3 hearts, and... God, the Stalnox in Hyrule Castle was a tough fight. :'^

Cloths?

came here to see these comments lol

Damn 😂

I love how the fuse system helped with SOME of the problems

1:46:00 the foresight …

I was hoping someone watched this after TOTK to point this out. Kind of eerie how spot on that prediction was. Makes you think Nintendo saw this video and thought “eureka!”

Wait WHAT

​@@MasonOfLife I think I heard that they ignore you at first if you don't have weapons drawn, but if you linger along for too long they attack. They do this bc they're very territorial, which I think is very cool!

@@MasonOfLife Yep. Lynels are actually super intellegent, and generally just want you to fuck off. Hell, that sick ass lynel set (that was removed in TotK, for some fucking reason) even outright states they're master blacksmiths, better than the sheikah ever could dream to be.

@@rebeccawolford8482 Yeah. The stare your ass down while you shit yourself.

@@TheDapperDragon what???

@@softan The payoff wouldn't be halfway worth the time unless you're particularly masochistic and entered combat with already the prospect of going bomberman for 30 minutes, specially as in his case he didn't have his bombs upgraded yet. I did plenty of bokoblin camps early with the unupgraded bombs but a lot of it was fueled by the slapstick of ragdolling them around and off cliffs/deep water, it's still an option in case you softlock yourself in a kind of situation where you can't escape from an engagement with a lynel and somehow you can't load a previous save or die to respawn in a safe area, but to pull that off you really must hate yourself.

He was capable to kill it. if you headshot a lynel, ride it, and start hitting it, you don't lose durability. The problem with this mechanic is that the game doesn't tell you and it's nearly impossible to find out on your own.

@@softan It takes way too long and then combat becomes tedious because all your're doing is conjuring and throwing the bombs over and over. The developers shouldn't have made weapons break for this reason because it limits player freedom. That's the reason other games like Witcher 3 or Skyrim don't do it.

@@theotherbeatle707 If BotW weapons didn't break, then there would be less of them and they'd be significantly weaker. Durability sacrifices freedom, but indestructible wepons creates a worse problem: boredom. Forcing your players to prioritize loot and manage their gear is a lot more akin to a fun game than a collectathon of weapons until you get the next best one and never use anything else. I'd rather my good weapons break and be forced to replace them than have dozens of different weapons and only use four.

@@NitroNinja324 See, you need to think more creatively. Weapon durability is not the only way to promote variety. Think back to Skyward Sword and how certain enemies needed to be taken down with a vertical slice, a horizontal slice, a stab, etc. They could easily solve this durability bullshit by having certain weapons be highly ineffective against certain enemies. Sword doesn't work against a rock enemy? Use a hammer. That's just an example I have after thinking for 10 seconds, Nintendo could think of many more if they cared to.

well, you didnt die in a fight :D just to a glitch

My horse did a stupid as Gannon was targeting me with a laser. (Totally not from when I was returning for trying to leave the arena) Got hit by the laser beam knocked up into the air hit again with laser beam. Then fell onto the ground and died from fall damage because of ragdoll

@@kriegscommissarmccraw4205 Ha, Mine got knocked through the floor while I was riding under Ganon to hit the eye on his stomach. He started to rotate, and his foot kicked me off.

@@tabbygale5430 that's even worse mate

Shame on you.

I love that i know what this is referring to

Amazing isn't it ? Very distinctive of the prequel

I just used a chest i opened in that shrine to beat it yesterday and felt the exact same way

I just used the bomb boost and flew over the fence on several shrines. That felt good

@@StephNuggs it sounds lazy

@@arthurbrandt9789 cause you can't pull it off. Already did the "amazingly difficult" shrines first time around. Just found a way to skip the boring shit

@@StephNuggs it's not hard to do

yeah, the lack of variety really messes with you after the 600th moblin

@@dasutanehineri and the 50th guardian stalker that you parried the beam of

@@thesuperpunmaster6369 after ten beams i thought "wow!!! i'm getting really good at this!!" guardians can't fuck with me now!" who knew the exciting feeling of successfully parrying a guardian beam gets old so fast.

It'll be so cool in the future when we get a badass overworld AND all of the older enemies back, can't wait to see a new take on the Darknuts and Redeads

even the bosses, usually the best part of Zelda games, were stale after the first one. Seriously, all 5 bosses look really similar and are boring

Zelda: Become Skyrim Horse

And they could’ve used the river area a bit away from the flight range as a more advanced test.

True that mission felt rushed compared to the others

Yea the riot quest is definitely rushed. Did y’all know that the bird people were not even supposed to be in the game? Instead of the Orni, the Dekus were planned so that might be why it seems rushed

man accidentally (mostly) predicted the totk rito quest lol

@uglybad lol I was so happy with the quest in totk

With respect to the shrines, one thing they could have done was create different Categories of shrine and then color code them. Red Shrines are Combat Shrines, Blue ones are Bomb Puzzles, Yellow are stasis puzzles, White are quest shrines with no puzzle inside them, etc. Using this scheme, let's say you have 10 shrines in each of these categories with 100 shrines total. Each Shrine you find in a certain category will always progress you along the next iteration of the category. For example, if there are 10 Combat Shrines, you will always get three Minor, three Moderate, three Major, and one Colossal Test of Power, and in that order no matter which combat shrine you enter into while out in the world. This would allow them to expand on earlier shrines from within each category with the implicit understanding that the player would have the knowledge and experience from the shrines earlier within a given category. The first four shrines on the Great Plateau could be the Tier 1 Shrines in their own category, with other Shrines in that same category building off the same idea. You could also save some arbitrary number of shrines, like say 20 to 40, that are left out in the wild and never change, perhaps because they serve some story function or because they already have a side-quest associated with them (and thus perhaps do not need a puzzle inside them). This would allow them to create stand-alone puzzles not within a progression category, like the constellation shrine in the Lost Woods or the shrine in Eventide Island or those found in the Great Mazes (all of which were some of my favorites), while having others that build off one another. But if there are only 100 shrines, this obviously decreases the number of heart container / stamina vessels that you can get by 5. This could be where the "Mega-Shrine" comes into play, with 5 out in the world that only unlock once you've completed all 10 shrines within a certain category, or perhaps when you've completed some other requirement (unlocking the final of these Mega-Shrines could require the player to complete every other Shrine and Mega-Shrine, for instance). These would each give you a full heart container upon completion and would make up for the other lost 20 shrines. I think a scheme like this would add some much needed puzzle progression and variety into the game, especially considering the Divine Beasts were honestly kind of lacking with respect to Zelda's tell-tale dungeon design. It would also allow them to have their cake and eat it too, since they could experiment with new dungeon design in the Divine Beasts and with new concepts in the gradually progressing Shrines while supplementing both with larger Shrine Dungeons, allowing them to prioritize exploration while still having that traditional Zelda dungeon delving style. Damn it. Now that I've put it into words, I feel kind of sad that it didn't turn out that way. And I'm just a nameless nobody in the comments section of a RU-vid video. I'm certain there were even better alternatives that professional game designers could have come up with.

That’s basically exactly how I feel about the game. Botw in a lot of ways is much better than every other Zelda game I’ve ever played, but at the same time it feels like they changed way too much for it to feel like a proper sequel to any of there other games. As a stand-alone game it’s incredible but as a Zelda game it has a huge identity crisis

@@wolfgangwinters9805 they should do exactly that for the sequel

Zelda Breath of the Wild is to Zelda what Resident Evil 4 was to Resident Evil. A great game, but too much of a separation of what it had to be.

Exactly. I sunk at least a hundred hours into the game, and loved every minute of it. But it never really scratched that "Zelda itch" for me.

Trial of the sword really shows their true potential since you’re basically required to use them a ton. It’s a shame they’re so rare and are in so few weapons

I just yeet them all over lmao

^My biggest complaint for sure. I almost stopped fighting 40-50% of the way through. I'd see a Lynel and go "neat" and keep walking because as he says in the video, you have to decide whether it's worth smashing your cool weapons on, and it's not really EVER worth it. That enemy will just pop back in a few days and at best, you might get a weapon equal in value to the one you smashed over its head, possibly even less than that if you deliberately used up an extra powerful one. I've played games with very little reward for fighting, but Breath often has an actual net loss from taking the time to actually play the combat.

Make the weapons a lot more durable, done, there you go

Yeah i used Lynels literally as means to exchange regular weapons for Lynel weapons by smashing them into their heads

If it’s something unique you want, how would that work?

Honestly as amazing as the open world can be, it's one of the only things the game has going for it. I'd much prefer it if they went back to the old formula, but considering how successful BotW was, it's probably unlikely.

Yeah, Twilight Princess was the best!

They did do this in breath of the wild. a few test of strength shrines are used to teach you new movies like parry and backflips and stuff. There's also areas around the game that intuitively teach you new mechanics like shield surfing in gerudo town. Honestly I think this guy is a huge contrarian.

@@dat-pup5147 not in the length of TP.. that lock on and targeting and combat they had in the game will always be superior.

@@dat-pup5147this is only half true. It’s only one shrine that teaches you these moves, and they’re always available to you.

Yeah but then you’d have to find the 20 out of a hundred and twenty shrines that give you combat abilities lmao

The slogan should've been "Hungry for Apples?"

The Game

The graphic novel

the cheap visual novel

the slightly more than cheep but not more than below average audio book.

Nah man nah. Critique that goes into this level of raw unadulterated detail is EXACTLY what we need more of.

I did the same thing, when I was bored I would fire up a YT video or something and just farm Lynel's for their weapons since they did some of the highest damage. So instead of using different weapons I just had my inventory full to with identical weapons.

That's correct. I suspect the blood moon exists more as a tactic to allow a greater use of long term memory and less as a way of resetting the world.

Arcana Imperii developers have been finding creative ways to maintain performance on every console released. It’s nothing new.

@Arcana Imperii Ever heard of Silent Hill? I know that was several years ago but that game is fondly remembered now, mainly due to a workaround the developer implemented because of hardware limitations. This multi blood moon solution is a simple workaround for an inevitable issue with the hardware being unable to produce what the developer needs at all times. The cutscene is just a loading screen anyway. Would you prefer to just have 15 seconds of black screen out of nowhere when the system is running low on memory and completely break your inmersion?

Arcana Imperii Amongst other reasons, I would guess the main reason is money. A more powerful system may have been possible with a hybrid console but better parts are harder to source and more expensive, plus Nintendo would have been competing with a number of mobile phone companies for parts and probably still are. All this cuts into the profit margin. Also when you consider BotW specifically, they were somewhat through development of the game for the WiiU when a Switch port was sprung on the dev team out of nowhere (according to rumours) and a console launch deadline can’t really be pushed back. Evidence of crunch/rushed finish is the first month patches that improved a bunch of the worst frame rate issues (not completely, plenty of frame drops in certain areas) but suffice to say there is a lot that goes on at a big tech company.

@Arcana Imperii You completely convinced me with this compeling comment chain thank you for your insight! /s

Cereal killer

I was thinking the other day what if Breath of the Wild had a hook shot that kinda worked like the tether in the Just Cause games.

It's cause one of the devs was like NOOO IT RUIN CLIMBING NOOO

Ehhhh. The hookshot is more situational than useful. Oh wow. This dungeon conviently has something that requires a hookshot

@@frogglen6350 What? Are you forgetting that it stuns enemies and grabs items from afar beyond just allowing the player to go over gaps? It's one of the more universially useful items in every game it's in.

@@okagron eh. Barely ever used it in oot. Guess I'm just that skilled.

Bet he won't like it nearly as much....

@@levimachado i was expecting that had seen the reuploads of his streams and oh boy

They always want to do new things that other companies haven't done, they don't want to ever copy another company, even if it's something really basic that becomes a standard in gaming, e.g. online play.

@@mickmickymick6927 oof

You don't make any sense lmao

@@Hychra not everyone gets it hahaha

Yeah right dude. The problem with their games is that most of them are the same

Its a lot less common if you don't interact with NPCs, or of you don't kill enough enemies to increase the difficulty of the game.

I can't go anywhere without the Yiga attacking me

@@NealBones yeah, I believe the way it works is you gain hidden exp for every version of am enemy you kill, but only the first time. So if you kill every type of guardian and Lionel, you gain a bunch of exp and stronger enemies will appear. That includes the windsword yiga bros.

@@SCVM45 It's obvious which NPCs are Yiga. After a while they start ambushing you without you needing to interact with an NPC, they're a random spawn like the Stalkoblins at night.

@@gileee we are talking about the random appearing ones, not the interactive ones.

Well I disagree, It’s not the dungeons, the story, the characters, or anything else! All those things add to the experience, but it’s not Zelda at it’s core, it’s exploration that’s at the core of this franchise. In some ways Botw did good with exploration and in others it did poorly, it’s a mixed game, a new direction, and my favorite game of all time, suffering numerous delays, of course this game’s gonna be riddled with flaws, I’d be surprised if it didn’t!

@@thefrubblewarrior4678 yeah I get what you’re saying and you’re right about that, I guess the Item/progression thing about most of the 3d Zeldas (and link to the past/links awakening) is what I enjoy the most about the series.

@@nurk_barry Glad we could clear that up.

@@nurk_barry Also, I don't think the concept of the divine beasts should immediately be scrapped in the next game, I know they are incredibly flawed, but that doesn't they're not a dungeon concept like in all other games.

@@thefrubblewarrior4678 Divine beasts were cool, I thought the overall dungeons lacked a distinctive theme that told me “you’re in the Zora dungeon, you’re in the Fire temple, etc…

herpsenderpsen there is criticizing, then there is nitpicking and complaining. Most people just love complaining

The Raging Reject which there is almost none of in this video , mabye a few nitpicks.

noathegod 1 I'm talking about the internet community

The Raging Reject o ok i agree then

I agree but let's not act like the Nintendo community is perfect. Let's remember how they hacked Jim Sterling for giving a 7/10 (which is good by his standards) and if you criticize almost anything about this game you get death threats and hack threats by these "fans". The Nintendo community has gotten as cancerous as the Star Wars and Rick and Morty group. Look at the comment section of IGN's review of Star Fox 2. All they pretty much do now is plug their thumbs in their ears and scream when you say anything bad about their games nowadays.

Started playing myself and I'm yet to do that. If it really is that disappointing of a reward then that sucks :/

I think they were more going with the experience being the reward over the actual shrine.

@@rho9673 its a gift shrine. you get a nice thing in the chest. on mount lanayru you free the dragon, and you get something that i wont spoil

you unlock the whole dragon duh those special shrines give good rewards too

@@videogamemusic2962 yeah botw leans heavily into intrinsic motivation over extrinsic motivation in most cases.

@@softan yeah ik but this is very difficult for a new player which is the point he made in the video

@@softan that's pretty hard to discover on your first playthrough a few scant hours into the game. Plus the fact that melee weapons don't break when you mount the back seems more of an exploit then a natural progression of the combat system. Why would weapons break when smacking a monsters legs but not its back.

@@danielaustin8401 it's meant to be because of the way combat works which is fun. You have to learn their habits and exploit them and there's more than one defensive answer and many cool offensive sequences when you learn enough combat. I think the safest option for lynel fire breath is to spurt run laterally then cut back inside for a head shot to mount but you can also go for the intense head shot right before he spits fire, use blizzard wand, dodge with shield jump or just shield perry all 3 shots then use the updraft he creates for easy bullet time headshots. Long story short, the best part of it all is learning how to deal with them then applying it successfully. Had they made them any easier you would be bored after you figured out the many ways to defeat them. Some guys can keep a lynel from ever having a chance to even move from one spot without locking them in a head shot loop

@@MrMichealHouse : Yeah, that's not something that makes any logical sense, it's just an oversight probably brought about by a programming safeguard. For some reason, they didn't want weapons breaking during that animation and applied a quick and dirty fix.

I think it's because most players are subtly guided after the king's speech to take the path leading to Kakariko Amockrocks video explains this pretty well. There will always be exceptions though as shown here, which honestly for a game that emphasises player agency and exploration as much as botw does is something that should have been better accounted for.

I thought it scaled based on how many shrines you did

happy accident I was pretty sure that at least all of the Lynels scaled by the divine beasts

@@1nkFalcon The official game guide, along with other guides online, say that actually monsters scale based on how many of them you kill, with Lynels largely being the exception that proves the rule (excepting the ones spawned each Blood Moon in the colosseum). Basically, whenever you kill enemies like Bokoblins or Moblins or the like, there's an invisible counter that ticks up. After that counter hits a certain number, the next Blood Moon will remove all of the weakest version of that monster and spawn the next level up of that monster, with the exception of monsters that would normally spawn that would naturally be a higher level than the new base level, which will spawn as singular enemies like normal. This can happen 4 times in a normal run: Red enemies will be replaced by Blue enemies, which will then be replaced by Black enemies, which will then be replaced by White enemies, which will then be replaced by Silver enemies. Master Mode ups the base line by 1 level, so enemies start at Blue instead of at Red, and it adds Gold difficulty enemies as the new 4th upgrade level for monsters. Lynels are, as I said, largely the exception that proves the rule, because all of the Lynels on the map, again excepting those randomly spawned at the colosseum after each Blood Moon, were manually placed on the map as mini-bosses, and as such have fixed colors and difficulty levels that do no change no matter how much you progress the game or kill other Lynels. You can test this by going to do the Zora quest last, and by killing a bunch of other Lynels. By that point you'll have done 3 of the 4 Divine Beasts, and likely killed a decent number of Lynels if you've been exploring other areas, yet the Lynel at the top of the mountain in the Zora region will still be just a Red Lynel, the weakest variant, even though you've progressed the game a ton and killed a bunch of harder Lynels. In this way, they're basically like the other world mini-bosses, in that their difficulty is fixed rather than being variable based on how much combat you've done. As far as the Lynels spawned at the colosseum, I actually didn't ever go back there after finding it the first time; I know Lynels spawn on the ground level there because I've seen other people go fight them there, but I've never done it. I would guess that the level there is either random, or it's based on the hardest Lynel type you've killed, but I really have no idea about the colosseum. Overall, the major flaw of this system that I would say is that it largely fails to scale with players who explore a lot but don't partake in a lot of combat, or at least not combat with enemy camps. On my first playthrough, I quickly determined that I could find pretty much everything I wanted/needed as far as money, equipment and supplies, by exploring and completing Shrines and getting the bonus chests from them. On my first playthrough I really enjoyed completing the story, exploring the world, and finding and completing Shrines, and so I never went out of my way to kill enemies: when I did, it was usually either Lynels and other mini-bosses, who I fought for the challenge and the rewards, or Guardians, who I fought for the materials so I could make more Ancient Arrows and other Shiekah swag. Because of this, at the end of the game, even though I had decked myself out in godly gear and had really strong weapons, most Bokoblins and Moblins and the like were still just the 1st level Red variants, with a few Blues and Blacks spaced in them where the game would naturally spawn a single strong enemy as the leader of a camp. Because of this, most combat outside of said mini-bosses and bosses became even more trivial than they would be for a well-geared character: I could literally clear the average camp in a couple of swings. Because the loot created from camp-locked chests is based on the level of the camp, this meant that the loot was likewise never worth it, since it rewarded me with early-game weapons and loot as if I was an early-game player even though i was carrying around an inventory full of powerful and/or enchanted weapons and armor.

The enemies scale based on how many divine beasts you conquer.

@@AvatarOfDiablo I had no clue this is how it worked...why even fight?

kinda exept the main push is getting over the (possible) fear of going deeper where the deeper you are the more scary and dangerous things become, you have no idea the monumental task exploring has on people who are pants shittingly scared of water

You can't have great dungeons without a set dungeon order, so no, it's not possible. The designers did the best they could with the heavy design restraints caused by an open world game, but the dungeons ultimately suffered from the game's non-linear nature.

Iluvatar breath of the wild sequel???

@@kylehart8829 > _"You can't have great dungeons without a set dungeon order"_ What? How do you figure?

Vandole So because you want a set order with less large and open world means that Nintendo should keep making the same games instead of trying something new that most people end up liking?

@@lolreadthis Fallout 76 is in no way simillar to botw. now what do you classify as gamer, because depending on what you say, I may or may not be. But if I was, in your opinion, I would say the game felt underdevolped in some areas (Divine beasts mostly) but was in no way incomplete.

Oh no a guardian struck me with their lazer, lemme eat a 5-course meal real quick

And with 2 kids

yet there’s still no TW3 video Joseph Anderson - A Flawed Masterpiece

​@@jackb9045yeesh, bro spends all his time playing and complaining about videogames when he's got two kids? 😭

​@@j.stretcher Four. And he's having a difficult time with it, considering his narcolepsy and being in Moncton.

@@GayBrain LMAO what's wrong with being in Moncton

Except you don't even get to keep it AND you don't even get bombs as emergency backup damage 😂

Almost like Aonuma is a predictable hack that needs to be fired.

Funny how the part he actually got right was 20 seconds earlier. That weapons would be corrupted by ganon's influence and the master sword would in some way be free from it.

Woah unexpected hot boy appears

NakeyJakey I luv u Jake

A wild gamer-girl appears.

i like you

Hot boy has entered the field

Raging Raving I guess they realized the name sucks ass and couldn’t bear to include them

Maybe next time, because they would've been badass

I know right? It’s even more baffling that Skyward Sword didn’t even have them. I mean since 1:1 sword fighting was sort of that games thing you’d think the sword wielding knight enemies would be one of the first things you consider putting in there. I’m shocked more generic overworld enemies didn’t show up in BOTW. Tektites, levers, pehats, etc. I know they’re not crazy interesting but they’d be nice relatively simple to program scenery fillers.

Raging Raving your grammar is bad no offense

@@danielmcneary3947 his grammar has nothing bad going on. Maybe his punctuation but his grammar is good

Because the game is huge and empty. They needed that many shrines so that you'd actually have something to find.

@@chloro8306 I know. Which is my big gripe with many open world games. Quantity over Quality. Honestly though, I think Elden Ring managed to really strike the balance, with how they had the Legacy Dungeons, which progressed the plot of the game, but also a lot of explorable content which was rewarding to explore. It rarely felt empty.

@@TheAurgelmir it's on my list!

"It felt too much like it was made by people who were ashamed of Zelda as a franchise" YES they threw out the baby with the bathwater and it really shows. Zelda games are puzzle games for me and the puzzles are GOOD but the BotW puzzles are dog water and easier to break than to genuinely solve. Having no new tools or no locked off areas is also really important to the zelda experience. Its a good game, but its not a zelda game. I used to joke that it was a beta test for another series that they slapped a Zelda title on. Even the story is in no way uniquely Zelda. You could change the names and character designs and it would be impossible to recognize it as a Zelda game. That's a problem for anyone who picked it up wanting a Zelda game. It became a generic open world game with fun exploration mechanics. I wanted a zelda game.

​@@badasspinkpony5486 If you took away all the Zelda branding from Link's Awakening, it would still feel like a Zelda game, if you did the same to Breath of the Wild you'd not say "oh yeah, this is a Zelda clone!" Much the same that you can spot a Soulslike miles away, because there's something in the DNA of a game that needs to be there in order for it to be spiritually the same. (Which is also why Adventures of Link isn't a Legends of Zelda game, and was never branded as such in the West. It was "Zelda II" sure, but it was clearly marketed as something different)

The sad thing, it's their mechanics. All it takes is a dozen hearty fruits, and now you are immortal provided you pause before you die. So you need either enough health or armor upgrades, also provided mechanics to not be one shot. Also you can use the sensor to make finding hearty fruit easy, and mark their locations to return. Now death is meaningless.

Not as true in end game, especially with the expansion that allows for maxing both hearts and stamina. Yellow hearts maxes out at 30 total hearts read/yellow combined. So with my 26 red hearts a +8 yellow will only give 4 additional hearts and as i complete the additional content and final god beast i will only get max heath from any +heart item.

@@aaronwilliams8887 if only pausing before death was viable in real life. 😅

@@coreycrumbcake it is! And it's called cryogenics

@@dragonsdream4236 😂😂😂😂low key facts

I'm not up on my zelda lore but I'm guessing the melody that plays immediately after is a reference to temples?

@@SkarmoryThePG The tone that plays is famous in Zelda for solving a puzzle. When you place a block on a switch the tone will play and the door will open.

"into either a shrine or a korok seed" Then exploration is not good. It should be rewarding like on Hollow Knight as an example or take any mainstream Metroid.

​@@saricubra2867 The majority of upgrades in Super Metroid are just missile tanks (to a comical degree). Granted I think it is the 2nd weakest (playable) 2D Metroid game but that got dethroned as soon as Mercury Steam made their own abomination game and stole a title from a beloved series acting as though they were making a game in that series.

@@haruhirogrimgar6047 bro are u saying Samus returns is better than super Metroid? L take tbh.

@@saricubra2867 isn’t like 90% of the things you find in metroid missile tanks and energy tanks while 10% are actual unique items

​@@hue_marlon727 They are NOT a fetchquest and are actually fun to find. Also Super Metroid can be hard af and you should get the upgrades.

I agree. I always ended up repeatedly slashing my sword, because I didn’t know how to dodge attacks, and the game didn’t give me any indication that I could do so.

​@@tweer64lmaooooo. Skill issue

That seems to be intentional, like it would be weird if you phase through a club. It happens a lot with Lynels with Savage Lynel Crushers.

SpaceHazard yeah that makes sence

It's up to the player to speculate what nintendo intended to do with this mechanic; speculations masked as facts with confidence won't change that Supposing the punishment is really intentional, which would be the preferable idea, it's inconsistent because you clearly don't always get punished for dodging straight into an attack If the punishment is unintentional, then it's inconsistent because you're not always invincible for getting a """perfect""" dodge No matter which way you look, this mechanic sucks chode and needs refinement

Tl;dr Flurry rush is pretty stinky no matter how you look at it

No lol

Ikr, most games i love have flaws that ruin certain parts of it but for some reason I never felt that way with botw it always felt fair and new every time I played it

Also a game can be far from perfect and still be a masterpiece in your eyes. Every game has a number of flaws, it’s inevitable

@@dathunderman4 sometimes bugs in games are a fun part of the experience lol and make the overall game better so yea I completely agree. It’s all a matter of perspective, although some games are objectively bad lol.

And on top of that it really is ok to like bad things. If you think law school simulator is the best video game to exist, that's seriously okay, you do you. As long as you acknowledge WHY people don't like the game, then you're fine, you don't need to explain yourself. Seriously, just do your own thing, don't let people stop you from enjoying yourself.

Of course, though I never found the issues this reviewer brings up to be a problem for me.

I think it's a symptom of the actual world and the gameplay/shrines being handled by two different studios. You can really feel where one's work ends and the other's begins.

It's also a perfect example how outdated hardware can hold a game back beyond just graphics. I doubt the switch could handle seamless environments like Elden Ring. Don't get me wrong, I'm no graphics snob, but sometimes incapable hardware can have drastic effects on level design, gameplay, and mechanics. We all wish for a Zelda game to reach its fullest potential.

@@josephjoe4180 It could handle it if the base game design had that as a priority. Remember the Silent Hill fog? The Switch is a very weak machine, but there are, almost always, design solutions to hardware limitations.

hopely totk will fix

SylverByrd I'll never forget when I was doing the side mission to carry the blue flame to akkala research labs (who thought that was fun) and it takes about 2 in game hours, but I only had 2 hours because that region rains soooo much. I was right at the last torch when a yiga clan leader spawned and surprise attacked me as i was trying to run away, when I had a few hearts and died. Come to think of it there were a lot of moments where I asked myself, "who thought this was fun?"

Didn't you lit the other lamps on the way there? Becaues there's a lamp every 5 steps, losing your torch shouldn't make you loose more than 15 seconds. Besides, the game expects you to take off the torch several times during the path, since there are several enemy basements on the way as well as lamps that require you to climb, maneuver and things like that to lit. The blue flame never fades, not even during rain. So I don't really know why you didn't light the other lamps.

Frost It doesn't fade once it's in lamps, but I can't carry a torch with blue flame in rain. Obvi I had to put my torch away and reequip to prevent it from breaking anyway. However, I was still killed by an annoying Yiga spawn. And had I stopped to fight him, it would've started raining for another 3 hours and I'd have to find shade -> make campfire and wait. Just adding more time to an already not fun side quest.

Dude I hated that part. Two in game hours? Try two real life hours lmao. It took me hella long to even move it from the source. I ended up trying to shoot the flame with my bow to different lamps.

Same. I can't make it 3 minutes without getting jumped.

Yeah, I feel lile they can still give us a fantastic story without being a linear zelda and I hope they really put more effort into designing dungeons. I love botw, probably my favorite game right now, but if the sequel does this changes, it'd be 10 times better than the original.

Wanted to say the same thing. I feel like this review is a bit unfair, considering Nintendo has never, ever done anything like this ever. It's not a lack of developers knowing how to make a game, it's a way for Nintendo to learn how to make modern games and add their own charm to it. Found this review a bit overbearing.

@@famoussaturn3237 overbearing is a good description for Joseph's reviews.

@@famoussaturn3237 Exactly. People say it should be easy for Nintendo since they're such experienced and skilled developers, but even they will make mistakes when doing something for the first time. They're trying something new, and things will go wrong, but people don't seem to grasp that because 'it's Nintendo'

Nintendo doesn't know how to do game balancing? They've never done that before?

How I see it if you didn't like anything about botw, then totk will not changed your opinion as it only improved so few things and added two more more, the sky and the underground. Enemies variety increase but not much compared to previous zelda games or even open world genre. There stil enemies with reskin colors palettes. The puzzles are still too simple, the shrines although it have more personality this time around and have some aspect of the traditional dungeons but it still funciones mostly as divine shrine which are solve with simply puzzles. The bosses here are improve but the bosses here are nothing to write home about as other game did bosses way better. People saying the combat is different when it is not true. All it did was add the ability to combine weapon to increase it damage and durability which this game you must do so if you want to deal the maximum damage you want which it is pointless since that weapon will break anyway. They didn't make an overhaul of the combat and it the same as it was on botw. So I don't understand why people says combat is different. The sidequest are still fetch quest most all of the time, collecting ítem or weapon in hidden caves that really why bother if it will break anyway. The borefest of korok seeds is back and I can't believe people count that as a engaging activity to do repeating over and over to find those korok seeds. They just improved little things. People think I being unfiar but when many spout out the it the best game there is, then you must Excel I everything I don't think this game Excel as other game have done way better in term of boss fight, more meaningful sidequests, a overall better soundtrack and story. Why are Nintendo fan so content with so little improvement and mechanic that have been done way better in other games???

I agree this game is like Botw 1.5 and some of the most obvious things they should have changed or improved are just kept the way they were. As someone who played a lot of the first game I’m getting fatigued pretty quickly. Somehow I think the shrine puzzles in this game are even worse a lot of the time, and the dungeons I’ve played (2 so far) are even easier and more barren than the shrines. I’m not even sure the dungeons are an improvement over the divine beasts which is saying a lot. It’s stunning that this game took 6 years to make and yet none of these issues were addressed

​@@latticepoint5245 you hating but still bought the game day 1 and played it up until 2 dungeons 😂

Yeah you’re in the wrong

@@igee1605 I don’t think I said I hated the game? I like it I’m just disappointed in the lack of improvements in some areas. They could have done more

Also, I find that sometimes when I dodge a lynel's sword (even if it's the correct dodge, like you said), that flurry rush doesn't work at all. Which is incredibly annoying

cotton candy too early?

Even worse... it's not necessary to dodge anything except in the Thunderblight Ganon fight where if you don't know how to do Flurry Rush or dodge... you get wrecked without food. You literally never need to dodge or flurry rush at all in Breath of the Wild. --A person who never learned to dodge until the DLC came out and had to do Champion's Ballad where it's impossible to beat Thunderblight without dodging and flurry rushing.

"Rush flurry" combat and targeting SUCKED compared to Twilight Princess and Ocarina of Time! Come on now!!

LIAM jones spoiled

LIAM jones But isn't it worse that I just watched a 2 hour review of a game that I have 200+ hours in?

Or is worse that I watched a 2 hour video of a game I've never intended to play?

LIAM jones Then get if your intrested and stop wasting time in the comment section

@@jemilagoutiu1237 sounds like he wasn't interested bro. Just wanted to hear what all the hype was about lol

literally, i still love the game but i had many issues w it.

But... this is RU-vid...

Navon Myhand that's the joke lol

***** My mind... it still can't correlate the two subjects in your joke.

Didn't really sound like him to me.. maybe his wife or somethin

jlag191 "tweet"

TOTK is a carbon copy of this in so many ways it just doubled down on my disappointment with the way this series is going

This, and they have the confidence to make a lot of multiple enemy fight in ToTk which is insane to me. You still can't swap enemy target, dodge still require link to lock to enemy, healing still sucks too

Lol 🤣 👍

malcolm in the middle

Glass Weapons

Jojoke

Retrospectre no...no.

@@pizzadelivery3 not every thing is a jojo refrence you fucking weeb

Big oof. Not on your part, on Aonuma's...again.

I'm here post totk and every single point is fixed by totk

@@nodrance nnnot even close

@@nodrancedid you play the same game everyone else did?

Yeah the way I see it the Game Designers were perfectly justified doing this, this is a reboot on Zelda and they are making the game accessible for people new to games like it as well

Lol

This is the comment which perfectly describes Breath of the Wild, because I watched 2-3 videos on how BoTW is overrated and isn't the best. And slowly that negative feeling crept in and I was like "Was BoTW never good at all ?" and then I read your comment and everything was clear. Thanks man !

Yes, but, BotW doesn't have a bunch of terrible ubisoft quests absolutely everywhere. Flawed.

@@gsofficial Well the Combat Shrines were that for sure. Plus the combat of BoTW as you saw in the video can be broken really easily. I think that BoTW is one of those games that actually have more variety in its side stuff (i mostly mean the shrines because the side quests were lackluster) then most games. But to have that variety for the puzzle shrines and shrine quests, Nintendo sacrificed the time spent on Combat Shrines and Divine beasts. But all in all we can see that Nintendo put the most time in their open world which shows because I still believe that BoTW has one of the best if not the best open world of all time

@derp Not because it does it even worse than ubisoft and if you've paid attention. Every open world game is following ubisoft's model. Every. Single. One.

@@user-vp6cq4sv3d Elden Ring would like to have a word with you.

Completely agree. It still has the majority of the problems found in BoTW. Also having the same map just makes it not as fun because I already know where all the towns are. There's not much to discover. I also hate ultrahand, I know youtubers/tiktok creators seems to love it, but for me it's so gimmicky.

@@HeyJoshyJosh Yeah, I'm having a tough time getting into TotK. I think the Ultrahand is cool on paper, but I feel like it shouldn't be in a Zelda game, where you're meant to be exploring and fighting monsters instead of spending 10 minutes building a thing you're just going to leave behind. And again, it's just another game with the same undercooked combat system with more boring shrines to do and more towers to climb. It's like Nintendo saw all the 10s from BotW and thought, "People seemed to like the last one. Guess we don't really have to change anything." It just drives me nuts. If people like it that much, more power to them, glad they enjoy it. But I just don't see it. I plan on continuing in TotK but we'll see for how long.

@@tbaudio3310 You don't get it, it's genius design. Haven't you always to build GMod creations in Zelda but they're way more rudimentary and don't persist through saves and despawn if you're having fun with them for too long? They're trying to evoke the nostalgia of when you first played Ocarina of Time as a kid (before your parents bought you a memory card)

Big time agree. I think a lot of these 'cool features' BotW and TotK smash out of the park would be better in a new ip. But publishers need to slap a recognizable name on a game. The "Zelda parts" feel underwhelming with so much focus on the exploration and interactions, but also those abilities and exploration feel contained by being in a Zelda game.

@@shinzomagus Don't get me wrong, I think the Ultrahand can be fun and inventive in solving puzzles. And for all of it to work in real time is really cool. It just bogs down what's supposed to be a Zelda adventure game. I haven't played TotK since I wrote my original comment, but during my short time playing the game, I mostly found myself skipping building things if the scenario didn't really call for it. Ultrahand opens the door for a lot of possibilities, sure, but if you're after a more action and adventure focused experience, it's pretty easy to leave Ultrahand behind, if you ask me.

No, on the more review side of the internet, I have heard people discuss it at length.

Rox did a good job as well..

You should watch Matthewmatosis' video too

It doesn’t really. They double down on combat being shitty for some reason

After playing botw I thought I was crazy for having many issues with it, but no one mentioned anything so I just kept silent

I thought that empty feeling and starting the game being told you already lost are actually the most attractive parts of the game. Hyrule, at this point, is a post apocalyptic dystopia. Every ruined and empty city, every crumbling bridge, every wary traveller hoping to pass through a field unharmed is a reminder of that. The villages are few and far between, the travellers who are the connection between them struggle, and there is more evidence that there used to be life here than there is life. The game was so effective at making me understand the emptiness and devastation, that the realization that I was the one who failed to stop it was crushing. The fact that the greatest victory you can have in this game is to rectify your past failures was astounding. It hurt, it was beautiful and it hurt. And I couldn't help but mourn every ruined city. I couldn't help but go well off my track to protect endangered NPCs as I had failed to do. And all this funneled in such a way that for a while, I was laser focused on saving the princess. In fact, unhealthily focused. But what broke me out of that ruthless track where all that mattered was Zelda, was a side quest where I helped reunite a guy with his friends. That side quest fed into my desperate attempt to make it up to the remaining people of Hyrule, so I dropped everything to do it. And I got to save this guy's friends. I got to do what I couldn't 100 years ago. And hearing him talk about how he'd never known joy until seeing his friends walk around that bend was so impactful to me that it genuinely has changed the trajectory of my life. It's like all at once the color started coming back into my world. Suddenly I cared about it again, for the first time in years I actually wanted to fight for the world. By the time I reached Hyrule Castle, I had fallen in love with this world, and now instead of aiming to die in Zelda's service, I was going to save these people I'd come to care about. And I did. And I don't think there are many things in this world that will bring me as much joy as it did to see Zelda again. Maybe it wasn't the best story for you, but it very possibly saved my life. Edit: I realized after posting this that I was kind of switching back and forth between talking about myself as a player and myself as the character I was playing as. Sorry for any confusion.

@@themindeclectic9821 "the game is better because it's worse, it's bad on purpose guys"

@@elgatochurro If you wanted a smaller, busier, packed game, get Mario Odyssey. It's great. If you can't stand having to think about what things mean a little bit, I don't recommend breath of the wild, no.

@@themindeclectic9821 I'm burnt on Nintendo, they told me, ADVERTISED to me they were going back to their roots for botw... All the hype saying it's a masterpiece, a must play... And I get Skyrim... "It doesn't hold your hand" as every playthrough I'll be forced to spend 3 hours going through the same route, no deviation, to just get out of the tutorial area... And then I get told EXACTLY WHERE THE DIVINE BEASTS ARE, AND THE BEST STARTING CITY AROUND... "Doesn't hold your hand" as if... Nothing about botw is like Zelda 1 or 2... The shrines aren't even worth finding, the korok seeds aren't worth the effort, there's not much to sight see and hardly anyone to talk to. Zelda was like the anti thesis to an open world game, and the only reason the Zelda "formula"got stale was because the new developers tried on it too much unlike earlier titles... Even the Majora's mask remake went from having to figure out how to handle a mid boss or boss (as they didn't have a weakness to your dungeon item) to being eyeball monsters... All of them... "Zelda" empty nothingness has burned me so hard I haven't bought another switch game since... I don't even touch it honestly. I don't even know where the damn cords are. No more heroes 3, Splatoon 3, and more I'd probably be interested in... If I ever felt like trusting Nintendo again. I'm good with my PC stuff where I can enjoy some ACTUAL RPGs.

@@elgatochurro Just say you don't like the game and move on. Yeesh. You don't have to like every game you play. I don't like or enjoy platforming games. Play something else like everyone else does

same thing happened to me, imo the shrines are too central to your in-game progression considering how mediocre most of them are

Same for me at least this guy a fan of Zelda not like angry joe because he never play any of the Zelda game

I read it. Thank you for taking the time writing it.

>almost non-biased Uh, no.

How was it biased? All the points brought up in the video were true, and any comparisons to other games never claimed the other game as better.

Bringer of dis pear skyward sword and ocarina of time are the only ones with good storyline

There is a huge difference between being unbiased, which is almost impossible, and making your biases clear and understood, which is what Joseph does.

Why did you phrase it this way? It sounds like you watched an hour long review with spoilers before you played the game.

The Because he most likely did.

I would still prefer there to be content spread out throughout the world

maybe 4 shrines stringed together so you get a stamina vessel/heart container

Hyrule castle’s dungeon was by far the highlight of the game if there were five or six of them it would be great

If you spent ten hours going back and forth to goddess statues instead of warping, that just means you're a retard

@@rootyhard agree lmfao

Its little stories like this that make me love breath of the wild.

He described me to the T

Und schon wieder Rupty unter einem Botw Video xD

SILENCE VERIFIED

Choose Cinnamon Toast Crunch. Or do eenie meenie miny mo

Ich kann dir nicht entfliehen, Rupty ;)

I see what you did there 😂👍

More true than it should be lmao

lmao

All he needed was a "Capisce??" And a 🤌 added to that. Lol!

McDonalds has McInvaded the McZelda McUniverse

Bring 'em back! Anyone else remember Wild Berry Crunch McFlurry's? I think they only existed during summer of 2002. They were definitely an outlier of a flavor but damn good.

Bring 'em back! Anyone else remember Wild Berry Crunch McFlurry's? I think they only existed during summer of 2002. They were definitely an outlier of a flavor but damn good.

holy shit i read that just as he said it. what are the chances

every game needs difficulty levels. I mastered BotW and felt rewarded beat it in under 3 hours, but i know my sister whos a huge zelda fan wouldnt be able to beat ganon without the best possible gear. difficulty is what zelda needs cause i cant think of another series that captures such a wide range of different people, ages, sexes, and skill levels

The exploration and world itself is innovative. However, there are problems with the game that don't make it perfect.

I was trying to find other people complaining about the crapshoot lock on system to check it wasn't just lack of skill on my part and I found two guys on reddit that were treated like they were crazy for even bringing it up lmao

@@VinchVideos the big problem with the lock on system is that you can't switch your target mid lock. Twilight Princess had this in 2006, and and it's basically standard in every game with a lock on mechanic. BotW is the definition of a FANTASTIC foundation with an okay house on top.

@@samreddig8819 they should go back to OoT's lock on system and targeting. That was flawless!

@@VinchVideos but it is great and innovative, it's just also bad and flawed

Kinda says a lot tbh

If you like Joseph's videos, check out KingK too 😁

I know the shrine you mean, but I'm confused by you seeing it as hard to get to? All you need is a korok leaf and a raft, or enough stamina to glide there from hateno lab.

My experience was that I got there, exhausted my entire crappy weapon arsenal and had to basically wait for it to kill me. This was the first time I truly hated the weapon durability system (which I didn't like in the first place), and basically mimics Joseph's experience with the early lynel.

I agree.

For something to be considered a masterpiece, all its parts need to come together well in a meaningful way. BotW does not do this. Its world is huge, and begging you to explore it, but there isn't enough to do in it. The combat is unbelievably stale, and the shrines become a chore, making exploration much less fun than it should be. The issues with weapon durability, the rain, etc. are not deliberate insertions, but the result of oversights on the developers' part. The rain is a particularly good example: they realized far too late in development how OP climbing was, and felt obligated to nerf it somehow, but the only way they could do that without breaking everything was to only make it nonviable on occasion, and in doing so, they made the game a much less smooth experience.

@@gavinwilson5324 It no masterpiece, but it’s still a good game in my opinion.

@@gavinwilson5324 I get that you believe what you're saying, but you've made a lot of categorical statements, statements I just don't agree with. You've stated your opinion forcefully, but it is still just an opinion. Just like my statement was an opinion, and I get that you don't agree with it. That's fine, too.

Play Twilight Princess, Wind Waker and Ocarina of Time