I was 20 at the time Brian died and for years could not figure out why I had lost an interest to a certain extent in some of the Stones music (though there are a few I do like)and when I did a trip back I realised how the music had changed direction following Brian's departure from the band. It's amazing how many young fans Brian has these days.
Janet McDonough, I was 11 years old and we always had their music in my house from day one because I had older siblings. When we heard in the news that he had died and it was just before the July 4th holiday it was just a major shock just so many almost in America as well . ... and I know what you mean because even though they did go on to have some great music after Brian it just seems that his contribution was very magical . You can really hear his sound in the music and you can tell the difference without it that is for certain .
Keylock always knew what happened. He burned Brian's possessions and hid evidence prior to police arriving. Brian was only 27 and a strong swimmer and wasn't intoxicated as they mention here.
Yeah he was sober as a judge and had recently completed a strong swim across the English Channel in preparation for a tilt at the Hawaii Ironman. Thorogood did murder him though and Keylock did cover it up, that much is true. Thanks for your unbiased comment.
@@gillianwaters9627 You have the post mortem results, in your hands as you type? Wise up. I'm not even going to get into this. Another deluded Jones obsessive trying to rewrite history to paint him as some kind of miss understood angel.
I have never believed it was an accidental drowning. Autopsy indicated there was not enough alcohol or drugs in is body for him to have accidently drowned. Keith even mentioned he was a very good swimmer and that some suspicious things happened that night. Brian Jones will never be forgotton ; Rollingstone fans will make sure to that.
The speculation about this will go on & on. However,if you look at every dubious fact surrounding his death; it seems pretty obvious. 1- He was due to receive £100k the day he died for his settlement from the Stones ( equivalent to £2 million now). This alone screams dodgy. Not to mention the further £20k per year as long as the Stones kept going. 2- alleged dispute over the name" The Rolling Stones" as Brian named the band. Huge potential repercussions,ie no more Rolling Stones. 3- Tom Keylock- lied about where he was that night,burned Brians possessions next morning( apart from the ones he kept & sold),his brother was part of the CID operation after Brians death. Keylock was also Janet Lawsons boyfriend at the time,not Frank Thorogood; she was pregnant to Keylock( married with kids) when Brian died & had a son. There are 3 pictures of them at Cotchford the day Brian died,looks like they are arguing. 4- Anna Wohlin,Brians girlfriend was whipped out of the country asap. 5- There was an autopsy,coroners report,embalming & burial within a week,very swift. 6- There was a 75 year seal put on the case records. There is also so much additional info,but these facts alone at the very least,merit further investigation,even if it is nearly 50 years later,because its the right thing to do.
i just read your comment [essay] after 7 months and it is credible. a pity so many people write nonsense on these pages and yours could be buried with the junk thank you for your post. i suppose it is too late to get anything done but you certainly open the case as far as any impartial observer would judge.
I always said that there was something suspicious about Brian's death.I said at the time that i thought he was murdered. Nothing has happened to make me change my mind.
He was dying from an enlarged heart, sclerosis of the liver and enfisema of the lungs because of a decade of heavy drinking and drug abuse. There was also evidence that he was a paranoid skitzophrenic. He was losing his mind from the powerful psychedelic drugs he took daily. The drowning just cut him short by a few months. There was no musical future for Brian... He had already killed himself.
@2727.L Jones was not really very talented When you truly analyze exactly what he played, none of it was very impressive and certainly not at all creative. He could not write , improvise or ever come up with any original musical or lyrical ideas. What he brought to the band's plate was really nothing more than a garnish that merely echoed what had already been created. Brian was not a victim of anyone other than himself. Everything he did,... to cause him be shunned, fired and ultimately to die were the results of his own actions and no other person forced or even brought any of it on him. Keith once said to Brian with a great deal of concern for his diminishing bandmate, that Brian would probably never make it to 30 years old and without hesitation Brian surprisingly and bluntly responded, simply saying..." I know" He had to know that he was killing himself given the way his body and mind were rapidly deteriorating and he had no problem with continuing on with his personally selected path without moderation.
Brian Jones' spirit is still at the house in a good way. the vibe i got when i was there is that he's happy and having fun and i DO NOT believe in ghosts,Brain Jones is the one exception. Keylock and Thruogood all knew more than they want to admit.
Terry Rawlings updated book ‘The Final Truth’ puts this all to bed. Keylock was there that night orchestrating the coverup. Jones was murdered plain and simple.
Yeah, I actually know Terry very well, him and Paul Spendel have done a fantastic job in delving into Jone’s death. Just to add Tom Keylock denied being at Cotchford and then suddenly admitted to being there shortly before he died, slightly odd no? Also find it convenient his brother Frank Keylock (head of murder squad Scotland Yard) turns up at Cotchford to ‘deal’ with the incident. It’s a bit like Jack Regen from The Sweeney’ turning up in an episode of ‘Heartbeat’. Frank Thorogood sustaining an injured wrist allegedly caused by pulling Jones out the pool and is caught in possession of class A drugs, he's not arrested but instead taken away in an ambulance whilst Jones dead body is left all night by the side of the pool. Joan Fitzsimons (a key witness who was there on the night) is found half dead on a beach 2 weeks later. The autopsy taking place straight away and the coroner in return suddenly receives a couple thousand pounds worth of Dunlop shares. There are just too many dodgy coincidences not to mention there are still 80 pages worth of documentation stored away for another 40 years at the Home Office, why would that be?
Yes good old Tom swore an affidavite saying Frank admitted on his death bed to doing Brian. Good king Tom was going to come clean 40 yrs after... when he dropped dead after a routine eye op. Cretin he was
I was 21 when he died. I really liked Brian and kept a piece of candy that he kicked at a concert in San Jose, California in 1965 for years. I still have the concert program and my ticket stub. I loved the Stones when they were into real R&B.
Brian Jones was murdered by either Frank Thorogood acting alone or by Thorogood and Keylock acting together. It is also possible that Keylock killed Brian Jones and waited until Thorogood died before claiming Thorogood had made a death bed confession to the crime. This of course absolves Keylock from any wrongdoing and eternally leaves the blame with Thorogood who cannot be questioned about whether he ever made the confession statement. It also is an extremely handy way for Keylock to prove his innocence. Either way one of these men is responsible for Brian Jones death. Why the police let this slip when it is evidently obvious is beyond any rational understanding.
Paul Owens , in case either of you are interested there was a very excellent audiobook on the biography of Brian Jones here on RU-vid . I can't remember what it was called it probably was just simply called Brian Jones but it was really well done and riveting
It's called freemasonry my friend. It's an old boys club. If they want you knocked off they will do it and no one will say a word or will end up dead or maimed like Joan Fitzsimmons did. All about the oath!
I wikipedia'd Brian jones..and is it me? Everytime Mick Jagger talks about Brian's death, he gets HARSHER in his criticism of him i.e.-he "gets what he deserves' and "I don't feel sorry for him'.Wtf? Now there's a book saying Mick was at Cotchford the night Brian died? NOW I WONDER..
A sad episode detailing the last hours of a sad life. The Stones went on successfully without him, and many casual fans aren't even aware of who he was, although he founded the band, and was the one who got it together and got it going in the first few years of their success.
@@spunkos5870 yes I know that its not what I was saying crap 2 ....was saying that everyone at that time knew who Brian was as he was the real talent ... after his will say murder the glimmer twins never gave Brian the credit or much recognition and carried on as if Brian didnt exist so later fans may not know who Brian really was but a true Rolling fan would do research ....
I don’t really like anything passed Let it Bleed. Bothers me that he has little involvement on the recording and little songwriting credit despite many if the songs on that album existing for a couple years before it was recorded
tom keylock always denied that he was at the house the night brian died in fact he was in the pool with frank and brian and there are witnesses that have confirmed it so why did he lie and threaten everyone there to keep there mouths shut he also emptied brians house of all his possessions and paperwork and set fire to it all in the front garden two days after brians death the plot thickens .....
I'm not saying they aren't popular, but I personally thought they were best when Brian was alive. Jagger prancing around these days to me isn't the same as in the 60's!
Karma hits back.sooner or later but it will. I am sure,Mick&Keith have a lot to do with Brian murder.It is on their consciousness.Karma will hit them back.
I don't think they have any consciousness. I think in their heads everything is Brian's fault and even if they know what happened to him, even if they were involved its still Brian's fault in their heads. I think there is no karma, it's just comforting thought for plp. like you and me, without any power. Why I think that? Just look where glimmer twins are and where Brian and his legacy ist.
@@sanjam.4251 Sanja M ... there is a reason the Hindus call it Lord Karma . Karma is real and no one escapes it ... just because Justice might not be given right away or even in a lifetime does not mean those people who were involved escape Justice .
They were both in on it, as were Jagger & Richards. Brian owned The Rolling Stones name. Jagger & Richards wanted him to turn it over to them after they fired him and he refused. Keylock has also worked for both of them...how convenient. How karmic that Keylock should die 40 years TO THE DAY of Brian’s murder. I hope Brian promptly greeted him on the other side, just as I hope he greets all of the others.
@@pyewackett5 It was re-opened in 2009 by Sussex police. There were no new findings and nothing to suggest that it was anything other than the original finding of death by misadventure..
I don't think he suffered from epilepsy but it was thought a form of bi-polar illness. He suffered from asthma but none of these contributed towards his death. He was drowned, suspected murdered.
It's sad you young people missed this full flowering of rock-n-roll music which lasted from the early 60s to around the mid 70s. Music was actually written, recorded and performed by bands who for the most part were not the products of big corporate star makers. Sure they had managers and worked for record companies, but they were true artists. It wasn't all about the 'pretty'.
They should have stuck by him Hired someone to fill in While they sent him to rehab. His girlfriend dumped him for Keith And they kicked him out of The band he started So sad. I think he died of a broken heart. How do you like that? W/friends like that Who needs enemies?
unfortunately,there was no rehab back then,i always said the same thing about jim morrison,why did no one seek help out for him? there wasnt any..........
Such a loss to music and very tragic. But Brian was no angel, and did the same to Keith in the Edith Grove days according to Pat Andrews..rock n rollers eh?!! :-)
RIP Brian Jones. Always remembered and never forgotten. Listening to this taping I don't think that he was that strung out on drugs at the recording sessions as they tell it. If he was having heart and liver problems perhaps that was the reason for his problems during recording sessions.
Yes, twice. Once at the New Musical Express awards at the Empire Pool, Wembley in 1964 and at the Hammersmith Odeon. Those were the days you could actually see acts on stage quite clearly. I would think even today Brian would take some beating with his musical talents. He played so many different instruments on tracks. Did you know he played an instrument on Yellow Submarine (can't remember at the moment exactly what it was).
You were really lucky to see the Stones back then. I was born in the early 60's and unfortunately, I didn't get to see them until 1993. The group was really good and very innovative when Brian was in the band.
27 year olds do not just “easily” die; that period of a young adults life arguably is at its most durable, regardless of alcohol or drug intake, which apparently on that evening was not at extremely “toxic” levels....always have to perform a deeper investigation when someone dies at such a young age
Brian Jones's with the stones, is the true stones sound. Sadly Bi-polar disorder wasn't known back in the 60's. Drinks & drugs, were part of a mix that didn't help. A good support of friends, would have helped.
What is very suspicious is why did Thoroughgood and Keylock burn all of Brian's clothes in the garden the day after his death and where did all his instruments and furniture go to. Spoke to someone who met Thoroughgood who said he was not a nice person (I know that doesn't make someone a murderer). Brian was a very strong swimmer and the drink content in his body was quite low. Brian Jones Fan Club are calling for a further investigation into his death.
@@gillianwaters9627 just like to say Frank was my brothers father in law for 20 plus years, I new Frank for the same length of time, the last 8 months of Frank's life I lived with him, he obviously told me lots of stories, Brian looked at Frank as a father figure and a best friend, Brian was high on antidepressants and alcohol when he was found in the pool, Frank was seeing Janet Lawson at the time, there is footage of Frank and Janet comforting each other at the funeral of Brian. There is a lot more I know, but I am still very close to Frank's daughter.
@@lawriebell952 Yes I have found out quite a lot in the past months/ years. The death bed confession claim made by Tom was rubbish. Tom was having an affair with Janet
@@lawriebell952 Brian was not off his head on drink and drugs... I have the post mortem results. Did you know Tom kept a secret phone found after his death..
Good point! Look at how long Keith Richards was on drugs. It's a wonder that old bugger is still alive. As someone said, there must be a picture in his attic which is getting younger!
@@pyewackett5 Oh really. Strange that, considering it was painted after his death. Anymore whacky theories. Brian didn't own the 'name of the band'. It was and still is owned equally by the founding members. Got anymore good fairytales about Brian Jones. Love a good story.
Frank thourogood had the motive and opportunity . Toxicology proved Brian was sober and a strong swimmer , thourogood was about to be cut off by Brian and killed him.
Yes I believe he and Keylock removed all possessions from the house. I was shown the spot where they had Brian's clothes burned the day after his death, all done rather hurriedly. I think it was Keylock who said that it was Brian's father who had the possessions removed. Wonder what happened to all his instruments.
Janet ... yes , very strange that they would burn his clothing and especially his musical instruments ... a sitar is worth a good bit of money . It doesn't make sense and you would think the police would really make a big deal about that rather than dismissing it
Brian played on a few sons on let it Bleed-his last album. I agree that Jagger could have had something to do with it-I think there are a few pieces of evidence. They seem to be more and more mediore without Brian and Mick Taylor and they took credit for alot of songs they had little to do with! Greedy Bugers.....
@TheDorr71 They lost that magic spark with the music after Brian's departure. I only really liked a handful of their songs after Brian left whereas before I thought the music was out of this world.
And Frank Thorogood wasn't paid directly by Brian- he was still under the employment of Rolling Stones i.e Allen Klein. Even though Brian was out of the band,Klein was still controlling his money. So Brian never knew exactly what was paid to whom,which was the whole Brian being ripped off scenario. So why would Thorogood kill Brian,logically that would then be the end of his meal ticket,so to speak.
One report said that at autopsy Brian was shown to have what we now call "shaken baby syndrome"; in other words, he had been assaulted, throttled, and bashed about; and that there had, in fact, been bruising which the police suppressed. The reason the police "immediately suspected him (Thoroughgood) when he first told the story is because it takes a long time to die; it doesn't happen in an instant, and Brian was an excellent swimmer without enough alcohol in his system to render him drunk. Afterwards, the investigation was derailed by police chief Bob Marshall. My take on this is, because Thoroughgood was what was considered to be a conservative, establishment person, while Brian was considered a liberal, anti-establishment person, Bob Marshall deep sixed the investigation in favor of Thoroughgood. Back then, society was very rigid about such things not being so far from the rigidity of the Victorian/Edwardian Period. I'm sure Marshall was thinking he did the world a good service by hiding a murderer in establishment Thoroughgood, and can't imagine himself a full bore criminal for having done so. I suppose in one way it doesn't matter, it won't bring Brian back, and Thoroughgood had to live the rest of his life knowing what he had done. Brian will be forever missed, while Thoroughgood will have ten hundred thousand curses at his back for all eternity.***
West Winds , but I could have sworn I read that he was known to have pretty bad asthma and it would have been harder for him to defend himself if his asthma was acting up when he was attacked .
It's 2010 and the mystery continues. Apparently, no one cared enough at the time of his death to get to the bottom of it while the iron was hot. How do people think it is going to get solved now?
We've only got Keylock's word for this deathbed confession. I'm sure Frank Thorogood wasn't the sort of man to resort to litigation if he went unpaid for a job, especially such a large amount as £8,000 back in 1969, so I don't doubt he was very angry but that doesn't necessarily mean that he killed Brian, even accidentally. Keylock's knew a lot, lot more than he ever said and it was in everybody's financial best interest that Brian died, except Frank Thorogood who would stand no chance at all of getting paid if Brian died.
I want to say this, Keith Richards was in the studio recording as was Jagger on the night of Brian's death, the song was "I Don't Know Why" when they got the news, in an interview not long after Brian's death, this is what Keith had to say "I'm sure some weird things happened that night."
TONY SANCHEZ said in his book 'UP AND DOWN WITH THE ROLLING STONES' (he was their assistant) that he suspected BRIAN JONES was murdered. there's also some pretty strong evidence JIMI HENDRIX was also murdered.
He was murdered. At least that's what he told me when he visited me nearly 20 years ago in a dream and during a time when I was reading the book, "The Golden Stone."
We only have the word of Tom Keylock of Frank's confession. This is the same Tom Keylock who denied being at Cotchford the day Brian died but later admitted that he had been there. Wouldn't trust that man as far as I could throw him!
WHY IS THIS IN BLACK & WHITE IF IT WAS AIRED ON TV IN 1994 THINK THIS IS A MADE UP PROGRAMME ITS NOT CRIMEWATCH, I DO BELIEVE BRIAN WAS MURDERED I'VE WATCHED ALL FILMS ABOUT HIS DEATH , BRIAN WAS A GENIUS JAGGER &RICHARDS WERE JEALOUS OF ALL THE ATTENTION HE GOT BUT KNEW THEY WOULD HAVE TO PAY HIM ROYALTY'S FOR SONGS HE WROTE ALSO ALL THE MUSIC HE PLAYED & BRAIN OWNED THE NAME OF THE BAND THEM 2 & KEYLOCK ARRANGED THE MURDER .
Keylock that night was supposed to be delivering a guitar to Keith Richards house and mysteriously turned up at Cotchford Farm , shortly after Brian's death . I wouldn't believe Keylock if he told me the time .
It was alleged by Frank Keylock that Thorogood confessed to killing Brian while on his death bed but that's as far as anything goes. This "confession" was denied by Thorogood's daughter but Janet Lawson came forward last year and spoke to a reporter saying her statement at the time was a pack of lies and rubbish. The investigation into the case is going to be re-opened.
Oh please. Give me one good reason why Keith would want him dead? Come on. Brian was out of the stones, he was no threat to Keith. Keith had acquired his woman, his position as leader of the Stones, Brian was history by this time.
iF BRIAN WOULD HAVE LIVED HE WOULD HAVE MADE A BAD ASS BAND AND MAYBE IT WOULD EVEN BE BETTER THEN THE STONES IF MAYBE JOHN LENNON OR SOME OTHER DOPE MUSICIANS JOINED BUT THE STONES MIND AND BODY HAVE ALWAYS BEEN KEITH AND MICK BRIAN WAS THERE SOUL THE FOUNDER OF THE BAND TAYLOR ADDED A NICE SPICE AND RON JUST HELP KEEP THEM ALIVE AS FOR BILL AND CHARLIE THERE JUST FUCKING AWSOME
@GeekG you're theories does make you question something that wouldn't add up if it were you and me and the rest of common folk had we been been in the same situation. Very good point.
There was speculation that Keylook and Thorogood removed the items and instruments but I saw recently on one of these notice boards that it was allegedly Brian's father that had the stuff removed. Suppose it will always remain a mystery but those instruments must be somewhere!
He did NOT deserve to be murdered though that was awful and it was a complete murder through and through. in all honesty the same thugs could have come after the rest of the stones.What happened still scares the UK classic rock establishment to this day as not all the builders who witnessed what happened have died & many too this day are afraid to reopen the case for fear of reprisal.
Keylock and nurse Janet were having an extra-marital affair at the time. No wonder a lot of information was suppressed at the time. I believe he was drowned.
@snertster i read somewhere that he was buried in a lead lined coffin or something by someone else who was famous,i know ive read it but i dont know where if he was exhumed they might be able to do a proper toxicoligy report.just thought that may be of intrest
Brian was buried in a brass coffin that Bob Dylan paid for and he was buried deeper than usual as the authorities were worried about trophy hunters and i read also that concrete was put over the coffin as an extra precaution so he would rest in peace without being disturbed how true that last part is remains to be seen but i cant see why someone would lie about that
I saw somewhere that he was buried ten feet down ....again to deter trophy hunters...and that his coffin was lined to preserve his body longer......makes you wonder if someone knew something back then.....One of his girlfriends(who had his son) contacted a medium(Tony Stockwell) to get some answers....was interesting
I remember this in the newspapers at the time when I was in high school and obsessed with Brian Jones. Probably because of the intruige surrounding his life, his psychology and his... murder. I strongly believe it was murder.
I found this.. Tour Managers Girlfriend Contradicts Original Statement to Police Scott Jones published an article for the Daily Mail last year with the contents of an interview he conducted with Janet Lawson, girlfriend of Rolling Stones tour manager Tom Keylock. Lawson was at the home the night of Jones death and claimed that her original statement to police was a pack of lies total rubbish.
Janet, you look like an honest person, I'll share my thoughts with you. This case of Brian Jones is absolutely parallel to every other drug death I've seen in my life. I was 15 in 1967 to give you an idea of my age group. I had a schoolmate who went off to New York, got tangled up in the Andy Warhol crowd and ODed 2 months b4 his 21st birthday & I've seen more follow through the years. The drugs make a person start sliding, they get weak, then the ruthless survivors of the herd kick them out
Пушкин, Лермонтов, Людовик Баварский не были наркоманами, мир убивает талантливых людей. У писателей Стругацких есть такая книга. Она называется "Волны гасят ветер". Смотрю фотографии Брайна с Анитой Паленберг. Каждый день, проведенный с ней вместе убивал Брайана. Это видно по фотографиям. В1967 он молод и красив, в 1968 он старик и страшен.
@Maxandmol I thought so,too.Brian was very hurt when it was obvious to him that they were weaning him out. His drug use though was getting extreme.Another talent gone.
Jagger attended the london school of economics or such like. Even back then he had grand business plans for the stones as a brand name; especially in America. Jones got paid £100,000 plus £20,000 per anum for every year the Stones continued on. Whether those payments are indexed linked or still being paid to his estate ? Jones was going to continue to be a liability.
Here's a theory: Anita fed Keith some concocted story about abuse at Brian's hands (no one else ever saw any evidence of this, & it's unlikely that Keith would have gone after his best friend's girl otherwise). But he was already besotted with her, & the stories just drove him wild. Tom and Frank carried out Keith's wishes. (And afterwards, Keith took on the very same drug-addled persona they'd ascribed to Brian as an excuse for dumping him from the Stones.) All for Anita.
troubadude Anita was ambitious and saw Brian's decline within the band, made a conscious career move to Keith and her old age of guaranteed comfort assured.
Yes my friend I do. Did you like that quip? Nice to be in touch with you again. Incidentally have you heard of a Stones movie being released. Kelly in US told me about it, "Shine a Light" and we read its due to be released in UK in April. Regards to you Jan
Actually i take that back and it's not what i meant at all- it is VERY sad that Brian Jones died and also a huge loss to music but i can understand with why he was kicked out of the band you know the primary reason was that he was 'doing too many drugs' which makes one wonder 'how many drugs do you have to do to get kicked out of the rolling stones???!!!' CHRIST!!!
I believe that something very strange happened that night. Maybe there was an argument, they do usually happen when alcohol is involved, and maybe he was pushed or something. Plus money can make people do desperate things
Yes, he was a very good swimmer but he drowned in his own pool. There's suspicion that he was murdered by Frank Thorogood. Janet Lawson evidently an author/investogator last year that the statement she gave to the police back in 1969 was "rubbish and a pack of lies". The investigation is going to opened up by the police.
1994, huh? Interesting the BBC only felt it could release this a year after Thorogood died and therefore could not sue for libel... if they were really sure of this, they'd have put this out on TV sooner while Thorogood was still alive!
The idea that Thorogood killed Brian over a minor debt is stupid. There is no credible evidence, that is death was nothing, but an accident is absurd. $8000 pound sterling in 1969 is like $50k today. Anyone in that situation would have filed a lawsuit.
Aparently other stones members were there earlier in the day and one pulled a knife out, the argument over the name" the stones"/copyrights,with such a cover up maybe high people were involved also Brian was no angel he constantly beat anita and other very young girlfriends of 16, still as bad as he treated ladies he was an amazing musician. maybe he was a sacrifice the stones were a bit satanic in some ways , anyways rip brian.
two days after the murder, everything in the house was made into a bonfire on the lawn, his instruments, furniture, papers and most importantly his new recordings of his music with his new group including alexis korner
wow, police were aware of it too from a farmer who saw the bonfire, so did nothing to bring anyone to justice,after destroying a probable crime sene! probably a big cover up, i just cant see the builder theory ? not sure , seems like a cover up would be for jagger and others high up ? thanx :)
I heard from a Stones documentary that Anita instigated physical fights more than Brian did. It wasn’t domestic violence it was rage fights between the two of them. But if you have a good source I’d appreciate a link- would be nice to set it straight
Brian is on certain track of 'Let It Bleed'...who else would get autoharp credits?! dude...you want to send me a disc? put as much Brian Jones stuff as you can?! maybe we could trade...I have odd, old bootleg stuff from the '70s
I have 'Charlie I My Darling'...great stuff...their mini Hard Days Night...all 20 minutes of it...this clip looks like it might be cool but it doesn't play
@pat45068 are you going so far as to suggest maybe somebody in the RS circle(band or management) may have wanted Jones dead? I've heard certain things around that. But yes with everything I've read(and still want too) It only seems to leave me with more questions than answers. Even decades after the death, I just don't know if we'll ever get anywhere. Case could be worked on after the other boys are gone.
