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British first generation 25Kv EMUs Classes 302 to 310 between 1992 & 2000 

David Othen
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Several areas of Britain were electrified with 25Kv overhead wires. These include the lines out of Fenchurch Street & Liverpool Street stations in London, and the lines around Leeds, Manchester, Bradford and Crewe.
This video shows classes 302, 304, 305/1, 305/2. 308, 309/2 & 310 in action between 1992 & 2000.

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25 июн 2016

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@OlafProt
@OlafProt Год назад
Being a Dorking person these units were totally alien to me, despite some even being NSE. Fascinating
@clarky2356
@clarky2356 4 года назад
I like the ticking noise when these emu left and arrived at the stations
@johnnyboy3949
@johnnyboy3949 5 лет назад
Slam door trains ❤️ I’m just too young to remember them having been born in the mid 90s and my local line running sprinters from the 80s. Been on them on heritage lines though and they just feel like that is the way railways are supposed to be.
@florencegomer7937
@florencegomer7937 5 лет назад
Burning Wang .... Entry and exit was far quicker, but there was always one idiot who left one door open that someone else had to shut.
@mrjcfpants
@mrjcfpants 4 года назад
Ah I used to get a 304 home from school in Sandbach to Wilmslow most days between 1988 and 1990. Can remember them like yesterday. Thanks for the footage.
@stephendines1936
@stephendines1936 5 лет назад
I'm remember the 309 units in 'Jaffa Cake' Orange livery on the Liverpool Street to Clacton services.
@soundseeker63
@soundseeker63 5 лет назад
Great footage of the now largely forgotten EMU classes. I recall seeing many of them at work on the GEML in the early/mid 90s. And of course some 307s and 308s spend their last days working out of Leeds in the nice WYPTE "strawberries and cream" livery which suited them. They had very deeply cushioned seats which were super comfy, not like the rock hard wafer thin pieces of plastic we endure on the modern classes! And of course there was hardly ever any queues to get on/off them with so many doors. I wish a couple of sets had been preserved as they are such a different experience the clinical modern trains.
@dunnwell7780
@dunnwell7780 Год назад
Being a kid in the early 80s getting, I think, class 304s and up on the line between Wilmslow in Cheshire and Stockport/Manchester with my Gran, the amount of times she had to tell me to stop jumping/bouncing on those lovely seats... They were more like matresses than seats.
@chris-io1ki
@chris-io1ki 6 лет назад
Many a trip down memory lane here. Great video. Hope you have managed a similar DMU video.
@5mnz7fg
@5mnz7fg 7 лет назад
So charming!
@neilcrawford8303
@neilcrawford8303 5 лет назад
Thanks for sharing this. Most of my memories are Southern 4 SUBs, 2 and 4 EPBs, VEPs & CIGs. Love the old slam door EMUs, it's great to hear the traction motors whine as the train accelerates.
@David-ci1vn
@David-ci1vn 2 года назад
My memories are much the same albeit plus the superb 4TC/4TC/4REP Bournemouth config and even the occassional 4LAV, all of them "proper trains" unlike the 2/4PEP foisted on the public in what, '73/4, awful.
@neilcrawford8303
@neilcrawford8303 2 года назад
@@David-ci1vn Yup, I remember the REP-TCs to, watching them fly through Surbiton. Used to like watching them move off coast bound with the REP at the rear and watching the compression between the REP and the TCs stock as the REP propelled the train away. As for PEPs, we still have the PEP offspring where I live, 507s & 8s. Soon to be history when the 777s eventually take over. I do remember the prototype PEP units working on the Waterloo suburban services.
@David-ci1vn
@David-ci1vn 2 года назад
@@neilcrawford8303 My parents moved tp B'mth and the Waterloo run was a failry common feature, "Smoked haddock, brown toast and tea", "Certainly sir", fast backwards to the future, oh please! I had a friend with BR, they tested two 4-REPs jumpered toegther on the Haywards Heath line, had to hold the breakers in as it broke the sound barrier!!
@andyrowlands50029
@andyrowlands50029 5 лет назад
Vehicle 75881 of Unit 308 136 is the sole 308 survivor. I did some restoration work on it while it was at the Electric Railway Museum in Coventry. 309 616 & 624 also feature in this video, and both were at the ERM as well :-)
@Pmjs
@Pmjs 7 лет назад
I used to work 305s from Edinburgh to North Berwick.
@david-othen
@david-othen 7 лет назад
What were they like to drive? Any memories you would like to share?
@stevem-h3562
@stevem-h3562 Год назад
I used to find the 310's so boring when I was a kid, spotting in the 70s and early 80s. Compared to the soulless 350's we have in the LMR these days, I'd have em back in a hearbeat.
@theguitarsurgeon6213
@theguitarsurgeon6213 4 года назад
just the sound of the brakes bring back memories lol
@David-ci1vn
@David-ci1vn 2 года назад
...and the brake blocks!
@jamesbraithwaite478
@jamesbraithwaite478 4 года назад
The Class 304's also worked the line between Altrincham & Deansgate before Metrolink took over in 1990. The diesel version of the 304 did run on the now unused line between Skelton Junction & Heatley.
@lesfez1875
@lesfez1875 2 года назад
Remember these on Fenchurch St to Southend line, always 4 car units and in green livery, then BR blue. I recall they could go at quite a speed but bounced around a lot.
@riverhuntingdon6659
@riverhuntingdon6659 8 лет назад
Bloody shame none were preserved in working order as a complete set. I was on the last 309 run from Clacton. The unit was immaculately kept, and seemed to have years more life left, especially as the BRB spent so much on their refurb. I recall going to Norwood Yard once, and being asked to get a brake controller from a scrapper. It was a 309. The unit was so nice I went back to the telephone as I was sure they'd made a mistake as the wheel tyres still had many miles left, and the whole set seemed "too good to scrap" in my eyes. But nope, scrapped it was. Can't recall the number now, but what a waste.
@david-othen
@david-othen 8 лет назад
Of course some of the Clacton units got a little more use in the Manchester area based at Longsight Depot as shown in the video.
@Pmjs
@Pmjs 4 года назад
305 519 was one of sets we had at Edinburgh Waverley. However Scotrail's were all 4 car not 3 car.
@donovanemery597
@donovanemery597 2 года назад
I remember travelling on the whole of the London Liverpool Street to Southend Victoria line
@eddherring4972
@eddherring4972 3 года назад
I’m just here for the sound of bolted rails, you can’t find it anywhere, not U.K. anyway. Remember 305s on the Liverpool Street To Bishop’s Stortford run. I think electrification to Cambridge must have been done about 1989-1990. Until then it was DMU to Newport school every day and class 47 back home.
@SteamboatWilley
@SteamboatWilley 7 лет назад
great stuff. interesting regional railways livery variation on some of the 305s such as 403, with an upward "swoosh" to the stripes towards the ends of the units instead of the more common straight style. similar to variations on the network southeast livery. I keep wondering what BR trains would have looked like if privatisation hadn't happened. no doubt RR and Scotrail colours would have spread across the fleet.
@Mitch-Hendren
@Mitch-Hendren 24 дня назад
I Think some did just have the red stripe painted over in pale blue. I seem to remember red paint showing through the flaky "baby" blue right at the end of their life. Could be a false memory though. Im old!
@petersmith4455
@petersmith4455 3 года назад
great video, wish we still had the 302 units now in 2021 instead of the rubbish we have now. yuk.
@Isochest
@Isochest Год назад
Some of these were originally 1500v dc. You missed that out. They were converted to 6.25kv ac/25kv ac in 1960.
@lfewell2161
@lfewell2161 5 лет назад
Most of these trains up to the 308 had LNER designed bogies, now we're these built new or refurbished from ex LNER coaches scrapped around this time?
@wharris302
@wharris302 2 года назад
I'm used to slamdoor EMUs being 3rd rail, and here we see 25kv slamdoors, it doesn't look right lol
@xfileswilly
@xfileswilly 4 года назад
Forgot to feature the 303 and 307s. Also no mention of the preserved class 306.
@Keithbarber
@Keithbarber 4 года назад
Sliding door emu's This video is about the slam door version
@mikkie444
@mikkie444 7 лет назад
Did the trains that ran out of Fenchurch street go on to be used on other lines or were they scraped
@kevinrussell2718
@kevinrussell2718 6 лет назад
Some of the Class 302s - as seen here - were converted to Parcels Units (as were some Class 308s). Some Class 307s (not featured) were re-allocated to Leeds Neville Hill for the Leeds - Doncaster electrified local service. As seen, some Class 308s were also re-allocated to Leeds Neveille Hill, for the newly-electrified local service to Bradford, Forster Square, Ilkley and Skipton. Leeds' allocation of Class 307s lasted about 5 years, before being replaced by a specially-built batch of three Standard Class-only Class 321/9s. Their allocation of Class 308s lasted until 2001, when they were replaced by a batch of sixteen Class 333s.
@carlpollington5059
@carlpollington5059 5 лет назад
There are two 302s at Mangapps Railway Museum near Burnham-on-Crouch in Essex. I believe they're waiting restoration. I pop back every few years and hope to go back inside one
@egatetapmenunggu3675
@egatetapmenunggu3675 2 года назад
2:03 BISA SF12
@AnubhabKundu
@AnubhabKundu 6 лет назад
Why these EMUs don't have vestibules?
@ChangesOneTim
@ChangesOneTim Год назад
Suburban stock design at the time usually had a slam door for each row of seats, vestibules were considered unnecessary space.
@florencegomer7937
@florencegomer7937 5 лет назад
One minor typo, it's kV, not Kv.
@lezbowron2673
@lezbowron2673 3 года назад
Not to mention Doncaster
@brucecohen3001
@brucecohen3001 2 года назад
Were the 310s first generation?
@ChangesOneTim
@ChangesOneTim Год назад
Interesting question. While 310s were slam-door, tapchanger-controlled and Westinghouse air-braked, they were first EMUs to use Mk2 coach-derived construction and wheelsets and first to feature disc braking. Arguably 310s are second-generation. The 310s were way ahead of all earlier EMUs for ride and refinement when introduced on Euston suburbans, except possibly for the 309 Clactons which were essentially based on 'InterCity' grade Mk1 stock. It cannot be purely because of cost-saving that BR chose to base the 312s on them nearly ten years later.
@MrGriser
@MrGriser 8 лет назад
Class 304s actually built 1958-59
@david-othen
@david-othen 8 лет назад
Thank you for your comment. According to 1987 edition of Platform 5 Locomotives and Coaching Stock they were built 1960-61. So there seems to be some disagreement between our sources. Cheers
@MontyCantsin5
@MontyCantsin5 2 года назад
That's incorrect.
@MrGriser
@MrGriser 2 года назад
@@MontyCantsin5 They were built in the late 1950's.
@MontyCantsin5
@MontyCantsin5 2 года назад
@@MrGriser: If you are 100% sure about this can you please update the wikipedia article for the class and cite sources for the dates you've mentioned.
@MrGriser
@MrGriser 2 года назад
@@MontyCantsin5 It won't let me!
@supafuckinmingster
@supafuckinmingster 7 лет назад
As an aside, I must say I find it very strange listening to you British people when you constantly bitch and whine about your railways. I don't mean anyone on here, I mean the general UK population. I'm Irish, and I recently visited London, and I have to say your railway and your tube system are fucking brilliant. I mean really really impressive. Your rail transport network made as big an impression on me as did the historical sites of London itself. Could not believe how easy it was to get anywhere quickly. If you don't believe me, come on over to Ireland and try navigate your way around the country by rail.
@glitch4465
@glitch4465 7 лет назад
I think the problem is in Britain, we grow overly attatched to not just our trains but to sentimentalism and nostalgia in general. I was born in the mid 90s so barely remember the trains in this video, but I do understand the sadness to see these familiar old trains gone. Part of the problem is trains nowadays aern't made in this country anymore, but by big multinational names like Siemens, Bombardier and Alstom, so some of the soul has been lost from when trains were made in workshops dating from the Victorian era dotted all over England. I'm sure in my middle age I'll be watching youtube videos of old trains from nowadays commenting how I went to school on them and it was "criminal" for them to be scrapped, but we will have to wait and see.
@nobby3265
@nobby3265 7 лет назад
supafuckinmingster Brilliant? Have you been on southern or on the London tube? Constant delays, cancellations for silly pointless reasons, and piss smelling trains with toilets that are in bad conditions and you call this brilliant. I can tell that you haven't ridden some part of the railways in Britain yet...
@jamesrindley6215
@jamesrindley6215 6 лет назад
These days the railways work reasonably well, albeit for ticket prices that are far too high. The real disaster that turned everyone off was when it was privatised and railtrack stopped all the maintenance in the 1990s so they could make more profit, resulting in several serious accidents and years of delays and mess ups. British Rail had its faults but it was never as bad as the privatisation fiasco.
@davidjones3758
@davidjones3758 5 лет назад
Proper emus not like the crap they have now.
@kiwitrainguy
@kiwitrainguy 6 лет назад
16.13 - pull yer head in yer little !@#$%$#@!
@stephenpowell5912
@stephenpowell5912 6 лет назад
Classic Locos alot better looking then the Shite Generation we have in Todays Network Rail owned Garbage,Before Abellio and all these Foreign Companies that are running our railways into the Abyss
@lezbowron2673
@lezbowron2673 3 года назад
Ah 305s ugliest thing out of York just my opinion
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