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British Rail 1988 (Part 2) - Birmingham New Street, Bescot and Saltley 

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Filmed in 1988, footage includes Birmingham New Street, Bescot and Saltley

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@antonysmith9173
@antonysmith9173 Год назад
Ah the memories come flooding back! Spent many an hour on the end of New Streets platforms. Man for a time machine!!
@TrentTrains
@TrentTrains Год назад
Great video.Remember seeing the class 50s coming out of the darkness. So many spotters watching the different classes of locos.a great place in the 80s.
@briankay4713
@briankay4713 2 года назад
Great memories of New Street in the 80s mate What a place it was .... The sheer amount of enthusiasts too ....fantastic ...keep them coming ...
@samstainer7455
@samstainer7455 2 года назад
B R in the 80's bittersweet memories, I drove pretty much every class in this video with the exception of the 317. Lovely to see 87022, one of my personal favourites...superb engine.
@theroybowdencollection9807
@theroybowdencollection9807 2 года назад
As a Scot, this loco was one of my favourites as well, and still in Rail Blue at the time! It's good to know the loco performed as well as it looked!
@chriso8485
@chriso8485 Год назад
What was good about the 87s compared to the 86s or the 90s Sam?
@NedPooleD818
@NedPooleD818 2 года назад
This was basically every Saturday of my life for four happy years….but don’t forget the ride in a whining WMPTE Fleetline on the way home….then listening to find out how the Blues, Villa and Baggies have done on the hilarious BRMB phone in with Phil Holden & Les Ross….eating Findus Crispy Pancakes whilst watching Lightning on the Gladiators….marking in the days cops whilst playing PWEI on full on the cassette player…. Finally to bed and then back to BNS early on Sunday for the Nuneaton drags, which were like a free diesel gala every week…. ….to think my teenage Son has wasted his youth playing ‘Call of Duty’….. Thanks for postin’…..bostin!
@theroybowdencollection9807
@theroybowdencollection9807 2 года назад
And who would've thought that Les Ross would have a loco named after him...!
@NedPooleD818
@NedPooleD818 2 года назад
@@theroybowdencollection9807 ….and a Class 86 as well! Shame there’s not a ‘Roarer’ called George Gavin too….
@theroybowdencollection9807
@theroybowdencollection9807 2 года назад
@@NedPooleD818 Haha indeed!!
@chriso8485
@chriso8485 2 года назад
I can't even remember the last time I saw a loco (apart from a Class 43) at New St...possibly was a Class 67 on a diverted Wrexham and Shropshire train around 2008.
@theroybowdencollection9807
@theroybowdencollection9807 2 года назад
@@chriso8485 It not what it used to be!
@stephensmith4480
@stephensmith4480 Год назад
That takes me back a bit, brake vans fitted with sidelamps 👍
@antonysmith9173
@antonysmith9173 2 месяца назад
No matter what the livery they were in the 47s ,37s and even 31s looked and sounded brilliant, where as todays 66s all look the bloody same.
@speedbirdconcordeBOAB
@speedbirdconcordeBOAB Месяц назад
Today’s locos all look plastic and disposable. Whereas some 37s are 60+ years old and still in mainline operation.
@stephenkettle7733
@stephenkettle7733 Год назад
The signallers at Proof House were very busy them days. Certainly brings back memories for me.
@fastwalkingphil
@fastwalkingphil 8 месяцев назад
Ahhh those were the days of a 2p platform ticket....got me to places such as York station, the furthest travelled on a platform ticket...always timed right hopping off the train as an inspector hopped on 🤣🤣
@jasongoulden2938
@jasongoulden2938 Год назад
Great footage with a ridiculous variety of trains going through there must of been one of the best places for spotters once a time certainly a far cry from what we’ve have today.
@msmith9604
@msmith9604 3 года назад
A throw back to my childhood. Great days. Thanks 👍
@aljonflavin6760
@aljonflavin6760 Месяц назад
NICE as it was with great sounds
@lincolncityful1
@lincolncityful1 Год назад
Brilliant memories 👍
@mr8I7
@mr8I7 3 года назад
Great footage. Before my time but love the almost dystopian look of the brutal looking old locos and the diabolical concrete monstrosity that was the old Birmingham New Street.
@theroybowdencollection9807
@theroybowdencollection9807 3 года назад
Completely agree about the old New St! The traffic more than made up for it.
@iainmaturin8460
@iainmaturin8460 2 года назад
It's all about context, for me visiting in the 70's this station was a revelation, rather like Euston post modernism!
@2760ade
@2760ade Год назад
I think that is precisely why it was so atmospheric and exciting!! I grew up in Birmingham in the '70s/'80s and to be brutally frank, the entire city centre had a 'dystopian' vibe!🤨
@rogdad
@rogdad 2 года назад
WOW Love this.....brings back great memorys of BNS
@basilbrush5585
@basilbrush5585 Год назад
Working at New Street on summer Saturdays in 88 was one of the highlights of my life, you just didn't know what was going to emerge from the hazy tunnels next, nice to catch the odd glimpse of ones younger self in a couple couple of vids from this series
@nickedwards2904
@nickedwards2904 3 года назад
Brilliant mate, best footage i have seen from New street. Used to spedn so many saturdays there , south end of 8 on a brute . loved it
@theroybowdencollection9807
@theroybowdencollection9807 3 года назад
Thanks Nick! Nice to share the memories :)
@LinesideSouthEast
@LinesideSouthEast 3 года назад
Amazingly good quality video for 1988, must have been a very high end camera. Well done for retaining the original <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="243">4:3</a> aspect ratio as well. I see so many early videos filmed in <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="243">4:3</a> stretched out or blown up to <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="969">16:9</a> which completely ruins the video quality. Surprised to see Network SouthEast Class 317s at New Street, no idea they had escaped the Greater Anglia region.
@theroybowdencollection9807
@theroybowdencollection9807 3 года назад
Thank you! The footage was filmed in Video 8 on a Sanyo camcorder that was voted Camera of the Year in (I think) 1987... I can't recall the model off hand. I totally agree with you on the aspect ratio and always want the original retained. Yes some of the 317s worked into BNS via Northampton when they were new for about a year or two before the introduction of the 321s.
@daveb6603
@daveb6603 3 года назад
Great videos Roy they bring back so many memories of my teenage days bashing around Birmingham & the midlands I took a special interest in the scene where 31405 + 31283 were departing because I reckon I was on that train looking back in my old scratch books it was Saturday 21/05/1988 the first weekend of the summer timetable and the service was the 10.10 Manchester Piccadilly to Paignton departing the wrong end of new street because it went via camp hill to rejoin its normal route towards the lickey incline
@theroybowdencollection9807
@theroybowdencollection9807 3 года назад
All absolutely spot on!! Many thanks Dave :)
@carazy-wb5yk
@carazy-wb5yk 11 месяцев назад
Awesome
@mikehitchen3153
@mikehitchen3153 3 года назад
Superb in the days of one fully functional railway.
@theroybowdencollection9807
@theroybowdencollection9807 3 года назад
Thanks Mike, and haha things were better back then!
@arthurmatthews9321
@arthurmatthews9321 2 года назад
That class 151 was a rare catch . Well done on that sir. Love the clag from the 58 aswell
@theroybowdencollection9807
@theroybowdencollection9807 2 года назад
Sheer luck on both occasions!
@danielsellers8707
@danielsellers8707 Год назад
I remember them on the Matlock line during their trial service. Currently working on a set of Railway Series style stories about them now working on the Island of Sodor. Although made in Birmingham I don't imagine them having Brummie accents...
@acquiesce100
@acquiesce100 2 года назад
I just want to jump into the film and go back in time. The sights, the smells, the people, the announcements. No mobile phones.
@theroybowdencollection9807
@theroybowdencollection9807 2 года назад
Me too!!!
@appliance004
@appliance004 3 года назад
Fantastic footage, mate. It really takes me back. New Street was always a magical place for a Southern lad like me. Very much looking forward to seeing more of the collection. Many thanks.
@theroybowdencollection9807
@theroybowdencollection9807 3 года назад
Thanks, glad you enjoyed! There's more to come :)
@055deltic
@055deltic 3 года назад
This is a truly amazing collection! Thank you so much for sharing. So many memories of the sights and sounds from BR days, end of the blue & grey era. I was a regular commuter up/down the WCML and these remind me of many happy days on the cushions and on the platforms!
@theroybowdencollection9807
@theroybowdencollection9807 3 года назад
Likewise!!
@garywhitley40153
@garywhitley40153 2 года назад
Excellent takes me back, when the time comes that's where I'm off to 🙂
@arthurmatthews9321
@arthurmatthews9321 Год назад
Those two 31s at 23.40 bring back memories. I grow up about 5 miles away from thornaby TMD . Those 31s were thornaby based locomotives. I recognised the thornaby kingfisher emblem.
@UKRailsandMore
@UKRailsandMore 3 года назад
Hi Roy, these are an absolute gem, many thanks for subscribing my friend really takes me back to the day, much happier times in many respects! All the best, have subscribed to your channel and look forward to catching up on many more. Thanks for sharing, all the best, Paul
@theroybowdencollection9807
@theroybowdencollection9807 3 года назад
Thanks Paul, there's more to come! :)
@nickedwards2904
@nickedwards2904 2 года назад
Was thinking about these films this week after hearing about the passing of Jed , the ever present New Street basher. I dont see him on any of the films but will keep looking
@theroybowdencollection9807
@theroybowdencollection9807 2 года назад
I didn't know he'd passed but I do remember him, sadly I don't think he appears in the footage
@Georgeasaurus2001
@Georgeasaurus2001 3 года назад
The most depressing thing about this footage is that even the most vanilla stuff at New St, the 47/4s and the 86s are way more interesting than than anything you see there these days. On by the way 45110 was off to Buxton and Blackpool tour came from Swindon
@theroybowdencollection9807
@theroybowdencollection9807 3 года назад
Things certainly aren't the same any more! Many thanks for the background on these workings I had forgotten the precise details.
@johndevlin8533
@johndevlin8533 3 года назад
Could not agree more with your comments a 47 with rake of coaches way more enjoyable than plastic plying its trade at New St these days
@andrewbennett7756
@andrewbennett7756 Месяц назад
Love new street
@chrismason1241
@chrismason1241 2 года назад
This is amazing footage spent many summer Saturdays at BNS Great days
@train4905
@train4905 4 месяца назад
Awsome😊
@EErail26
@EErail26 3 года назад
More hellfire stuff...keep them coming!
@theroybowdencollection9807
@theroybowdencollection9807 3 года назад
Still two or three to come from 1988!
@morgandude2
@morgandude2 Год назад
Just as filthy as I remember it, including the choking blue smog! 😄 No bloody mobile phone zombies either!
@theroybowdencollection9807
@theroybowdencollection9807 Год назад
I remember the fumes!
@OlafProt
@OlafProt 2 месяца назад
SO many spotters!!! <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="545">9:05</a> ...is it like that now? Things change, life moves on and it's unstoppable but, it WAS so much more varied and interesting then!! Wasn't it?
@andrewbennett7756
@andrewbennett7756 Месяц назад
Wen used to go to Paignton Wen come in on electric from Liverpool lime street and back out with a deisls all the way to kingswheier wat a trip and a long day
@robc9845
@robc9845 3 года назад
Great stuff but just look at all the spotters on New Street,don’t think I ever saw that many on BNS plus look at the NB working you recorded,shows how hand having Bescot & Saltley on the doorstep really was.
@theroybowdencollection9807
@theroybowdencollection9807 3 года назад
Yes anything could turn up, and did!
@andrewbennett7756
@andrewbennett7756 Месяц назад
In corridor coaches they were so comfortable
@genesis070365
@genesis070365 3 года назад
Took it all for granted 😏 happy days though 👍
@grahamchadwick5242
@grahamchadwick5242 3 года назад
More spotters than passengers, great days!!!!!
@aureol40012
@aureol40012 3 года назад
That must be the railtour to Glasgow via Manchester Vic with the 50s. I did it from Manchester.
@theroybowdencollection9807
@theroybowdencollection9807 3 года назад
It was, I wish I could've been on it as well!
@AndreiTupolev
@AndreiTupolev 3 года назад
Look at all those lovely diesel fumes! Impressive noisy departure by 45110
@theroybowdencollection9807
@theroybowdencollection9807 3 года назад
Brings back memories!!
@merfyndavies6993
@merfyndavies6993 Год назад
By
@dieseldave3879
@dieseldave3879 Год назад
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="204">3:24</a> Sneak Peak! 🚂👍
@chriso8485
@chriso8485 2 года назад
According to Wiki, Medusa was withdrawn on 27 July 1988...days/months after this vid? This could be the last known footage of that loco
@theroybowdencollection9807
@theroybowdencollection9807 2 года назад
I was lucky to have filmed it when I did!
@MatthewRailways50033
@MatthewRailways50033 3 года назад
5⭐video 👍😀😎.I've subscribers to your RU-vid channel 😀
@theroybowdencollection9807
@theroybowdencollection9807 3 года назад
Many thanks!!!
@k333vrr4
@k333vrr4 3 года назад
B'ham NEDStreet fantastic 😂👍
@NedPooleD818
@NedPooleD818 2 года назад
But no sign of Jed himself….would definitely been on 31 283 TE NB….
@AndreiTupolev
@AndreiTupolev 3 года назад
Those railway employees crossing the track behind the engineering train at Bescot at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="2705">45:05</a> seemed rather casual; only one wearing a hi viz, and a very perfunctory glance up the line where they didn't seem to notice the Class 20s approaching. That's almost one for a "how not to do it" training video
@theroybowdencollection9807
@theroybowdencollection9807 3 года назад
How times have changed!!
@BenDover-ln6ns
@BenDover-ln6ns 2 года назад
Outrageously good footage again, what was that 58026 on? Was it going down the bank?
@theroybowdencollection9807
@theroybowdencollection9807 2 года назад
It was a Summer Saturday Derby to Bristol extra if I remember correctly
@2760ade
@2760ade 2 года назад
Just as I suspected. British Rail was run for the sole purpose of train spotters! I was one!
@theroybowdencollection9807
@theroybowdencollection9807 2 года назад
Certainly at New Street 😉
@matthew0605
@matthew0605 24 дня назад
Any idea what the 58 was doing on a passenger turn? , I'm guessing it was a special.
@stev6free146
@stev6free146 2 года назад
So many train spotters
@jontydenton1898
@jontydenton1898 2 года назад
They can scoff all they like but this was much more fun than tictoc!
@theroybowdencollection9807
@theroybowdencollection9807 2 года назад
Agreed ;)
@richardharvey7208
@richardharvey7208 3 года назад
Hi Roy loving your videos , just a shot in the blue, Bescot Yard had two Class 58 one parked behind a class 86. The one I would like to ask the number of is in Rail Freight Coal. Would you have a record of it just modelling my railway for this time. I was in the Navy at the time in the Gulf my cousin who was a Br Engineer has told me 58043 was in this livery on the open day at Bescot 1988. Is this the same beast .
@theroybowdencollection9807
@theroybowdencollection9807 2 года назад
Hi Richard, firstly so sorry for missing your comment I didn't see it until now. Unfortunately I don't have any record of the identity of the 58s, I wish I could be of more help.
@richardharvey7208
@richardharvey7208 2 года назад
@@theroybowdencollection9807 Thanks for the reply a shot in the dark but thanks again still loving the videos Richard
@Thunderer0872
@Thunderer0872 Год назад
Mr Betts taking a for of 45110 My Lords
@HatsuneMiku3D
@HatsuneMiku3D 3 года назад
So many bashers hanging out the windows, good times...highly likely I was there too lol
@RealCristiano
@RealCristiano 3 года назад
Is this your brothers account?
@limeyfox
@limeyfox 3 года назад
Amusing to look back and see how little heed was paid to the 10mph limit back then. You probably wouldnt have got everything through the station in 24 hours if everything ran at the limit, given the volume of shunt moves and additionals.
@theroybowdencollection9807
@theroybowdencollection9807 3 года назад
The speed limit was regularly exceeded...
@limeyfox
@limeyfox 3 года назад
@@theroybowdencollection9807 I visited New Street box in about 2005 and a signaller said that one problem when the Voyager fleets were introduced was that in Notch 1 they roll at about 6-7mph whereas in Notch 2 they reach 15mph and everything was either losing precious seconds or doing 50% over the limit and bashing the pointwork with the heavy 50t vehicles.
@AndreiTupolev
@AndreiTupolev 3 года назад
A Peak on Network Southeast stock. Never heard of such a thing. Was that a service train or a special?
@dackesjulag
@dackesjulag 3 года назад
Buxton Rail tour.
@stevelomas4119
@stevelomas4119 2 года назад
Pathfinder Tour, "The Peaks 'N' Sea" 14/5/88. Swindon to Buxton & Blackpool North.
@N330AA
@N330AA 4 месяца назад
What's that at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1546">25:46</a>? Never seen that class or livery before.
@danielsellers8707
@danielsellers8707 2 месяца назад
Class 151 prototype DMU; 1 of only 2 built. I remember them on the Matlock line in trial service. Both scrapped in real life; currently working on some Railway Series style stories about them now working on Sodor. Although made in Birmingham I don't imagine "Derby" & "Matlock" having Brummie accents!
@N330AA
@N330AA 2 месяца назад
@@danielsellers8707 good info, cheers!
@iainmaturin8460
@iainmaturin8460 2 года назад
This wasn't your normal weekend at new street. I'm guessing at least one unusual booking was due to run through the station that day Roy?
@theroybowdencollection9807
@theroybowdencollection9807 2 года назад
Yes there were a couple of railtours that day!
@andrewbrewer7007
@andrewbrewer7007 Год назад
Weird seeing a class 58 on passenger duty, normally they were pulling coal wagons.
@theroybowdencollection9807
@theroybowdencollection9807 Год назад
IIRC tt was an extra from Derby to Bristol
@dackesjulag
@dackesjulag 3 года назад
110 the absolute hossing monster that it was, nice to see the fan's been switched in... 🙋‍♂️ 🇬🇧 🇬🇧 🇬🇧
@theroybowdencollection9807
@theroybowdencollection9807 3 года назад
Yes absolutely great sound!
@AndreiTupolev
@AndreiTupolev 3 года назад
And 31405 & 31283 on a WCML Euston set?! 🙈
@daveb6603
@daveb6603 3 года назад
I reckon I was on that train looking back in my old scratch books I’m pretty sure it was Saturday 21/05/1988 the first weekend of the summer timetable and it was the 10.10 Manchester Piccadilly to Paignton service leaving new street the wrong end because it went via camp hill to rejoin its normal route via the lickey incline
@phillynch3819
@phillynch3819 Год назад
4 car 304 at 46.23
@theroybowdencollection9807
@theroybowdencollection9807 Год назад
Indeed!
@danielsellers8707
@danielsellers8707 Год назад
310 as not all seating bays have doors.
@phillynch3819
@phillynch3819 Год назад
@Daniel Sellers trust me, that's a 304. I grew up catching the train from Walsall to Aston with my momto see my nan who lived several doors down from the parents of John "Ozzy" Osborne. I know the difference between a 304 and a 310.
@Matt19matt19
@Matt19matt19 2 года назад
Absolute filth 😁
@russellbenton2987
@russellbenton2987 Год назад
Great video . But what a horrible station Birmingham New St is
@danielsellers8707
@danielsellers8707 Год назад
The refurbished Moor Street looks far more pleasant; like a heritage railway right in the city centre!
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