Brock Lesnar vs. Stephen Neal: 1999 NCAA title match (285 lbs.) 

Lesnar was also in vikings

neal was a Freestyle world champ beating multiple conv doping world Champs/Olympic medalists... he actually also beat legendary nfl RB Ricky Williams in HS wrestling.. also Neal 1 of like 4 updrafted NFL CHAMPS

I didn't know who stephen neal was. Thanks dude.

​@@groot3535that was Edge.

more like strictly boring

1* Was picked up in 2002, (year after Super Bowl 36) Didn’t play in 2003, so he didn’t get the one against the panthers, but did play in 2004 vs the eagles So he has 1

Haha. I was gonna break it down, but this out it like this. *He’s got 3 Super Bowl rings in his trophy room - you atta go inform him he should only have 1* .

@@XXXICKYXXX all three rings are from the same year. He stole 2 rings from teammates

@Snyder Hahahaa

@@thetf8142 he was drafted in 2001 but didnt play until 2002. Was on practice squad but still got a ring for 36

What about you?

@@BossPlaya4u2no what about you?

What about Me?!!..... I have numerous number 1 hit singles with my brother! Together we are Rae Sremmurd.... More Hits than the Beatles!!

Is it lezznar?

@@MourningMoons it’s lasagna sir

Makes my mind go crazy thinking if Lesnar had gone to MMA sooner.

Neil's was way more impressive because the dude was 6'4" but only 190 lbs in his freshman year at college. So he went from a 190lb 4th place finisher in his REGIONAL high school wresting championship to a 270lb 2 time NATIONAL champion in division I college! Then he becomes a 2 time world champion in freestyle wrestling. And then as a walk on in pro football, he was too small & inexperienced. He was let go by the Pats & then the Eagles also let him go at tryouts. So what does Neil do? Just like after high school, he worked his ass off & gained 35 more lbs & became starting guard on the the greatest team in football history, winning 3 Superbowls protecting the greatest champion in sports history! Friggin WOW! Bill Bellichuk said he didn't think Neil would make it as a pro football player. He said Neil was the most determined & improved athlete he's ever seen! So he gets a one and only compliment from the greatest coach in all sports history as well. So there's really no comparison between the 2 in achievements other than their fame. Brock was an amateur wrestler who jumped on the new circus act bandwagon called MMA which was just a complete laughing stock and a freak show blood sport until a scumbag fight promotor named Dana White came in & cleaned up it's joke of an image, & then Lesner became a successful human circus animal for Jim Mcmahon traveling carnival.

@@randallmcgrath9345 he probably be caught earlier in a piss test. He was caught with HGH in college and only got off because it wasn’t illegal.

@@mitchjames9350 yeah. I thought hgh needed a preacription but there's loopholes I am sure. I see lots of MMA people with a gut that looks like hgh usage. It gets hard to hide after awhile.

@@flaccidego4291 greatest team in football history lmfao. never heard that one before. any time you hear about greatest teams ever its always like, the 1972 dolphins, the 1985 bears, or the 2000 ravens. Anyways regardless of your clear cut bias, it depends on how you measure success. If you measure it by fame then brock wins. If you measure it by money made then brock wins. if you measure it by who worked harder and improved more throughout their life then its neal, however that last one is a pretty unfair way to measure it because brock started out so much better so had much less room to improve. I think most people out there measure success by reputation/fame/money, which brock wins in all 3.

Seems a little young to have played with Larry Allen and the early 90s cowboys.

He was always hurt and he played for cheaters

@@TeutobergForestryService Hurrah!

Who'd he play for?

@@poncho_x4410 early 2000's patriots

Neal was a better all around athlete. I'm sure he wasnt worried about Brock 'roidhead' Lesnar

​@@Nesto38 Sure Brock did/does a ton of roids but he's also a genetic freak with a work ethic that would outshine most people on the planet. You don't just magically look and perform like Brock because you juice.

As you can see in the video there was no skill, just strength, skill beats strength anyday

@@skeetervalentine4182 'no skill' lolololol

@@skeetervalentine4182 Lesnar had plenty of skill. Muscle heads don’t get that far on strength alone.

Hahahahahahaa

Les NARRrr

Lol good ol Jeff blatnik for ya.

WWE does this on purpose. There are a lot of guys they either alter or completely change the pronunciation of names to be more “marketable” lol Jim Duggan’s name for example is pronounced “doo-gan” irl

Wwf*

And also the nJcaa championship that lesnar won in 1998 which got him recruited by minnesota gophers. Not to mention tony dungy who was headcoach of the buccaneers at this time scouted lesnar for a tryout contract as well but there was bigger deal offered by WWF

Freestyle?? I’m not sure either wrestled freestyle idk tho. U must mean folk

​@@lclement04 Neal is literally a freestyle world champion.

@@zakariakrapf2444 pretty sure brock didnt tho

This is not freestyle this is folkstyle wrestling

@@crazythomas_ is Neal a former UFC Heavyweight champ?😂

Yeah who is he?

@@jayfranklin8726 Won 2 NCAA titles including this one. He the won Gold at the World Championships in 99. After that he went to the NFL after not playing in college and was on 3 Patriot super bowl teams as a guard.

Damn that’s crazy. Played in the nfl and never played college ball

I was blessed with getting to watch Neal compete in the '99 World Team Trials in Seattle. Was awesome!

@@dowutado Unreal!

Go pats

He got a couple rings protecting Brady

Wow how cool is that

Also one of the few NFL players that didnt play football in college

@@markus7166 Thats the Genetic Phemon privilege. You can basically do whatever you want that uses your gifts (athletics in both of their cases) and you'll succeed.

Negative.

would have*

@@adahbombdon1512 Neal was 156-10 in college. 4x all american, 2x NCAA champion, world gold medalist, then went on to be a 3x super bown champion NFL lineman for one of the best teams ever. If his timing was right he would 1000% be a UFC champion

But not made nearly as much money

@@adahbombdon1512😂 he definitely would have

Three

He was also a World Champion. Dude had one hell of a stellar career. Three time SB champ as a starter, Two time D1 National Champion, and a World Champion in FS. I doubt we could find another with such varied and amazing accomplishments.

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What's more amazing that Neal didn't play football in college.

PFF only has one Superbowl win listed to his credit. According to them, he played from 2002 to 2010.

Even a 90kg dude that's mostly muscle and not fat is hard to keep off let alone those dudes at like 130 ( I assume 285 is 120-30 smth based on 225 being 102).

Me too

Don’t forget ufc

lol

professional wwe fighter.

He goes from being one of the best amateur wrestlers, to a very good guard in the NFL. Neal that is.

Ncaa is anything but amateur, and "pro wrestling" is fake.

Someone who probably could have played oline very successfully in college but opted to wrestle instead.

Goes to show how important genetics are in pro sports. You have guys who trained since probably 5 years old, who were surpassed by a dude who surely had much, much less football training and experience

Lesnar is the human definition of a brick wall .. all the time.

He placed 4th, 189 that year had an absolute stud in his weight class,

and never even played college football lmao

Awesome athletes.

Absolutely would have, but he probably wouldn’t have made as much money in my opinion

@@shameyboismith3505 Around this time PRIDE was hosting events and fighters were making very good $. I could have saw Brock competing in PRIDE around 2002-2003.

He’s short so nah

@@shameyboismith3505 100% wouldn't have Dana and company would have screwed him for pay without the name he made in the WWE before.

Imagine Brock training in AKA straight from college.

I remember when he came in and started tossing around Rikishi like a rag doll. Then hoisted him up for the F5! My jaw was on the floor!

@@mawage666 I know, I think I shat a brick.

@@xXHurdyGurdyManXx I actually just happened to be recording on VCR tape and I remember watching what I called "the footage" over and over again lol. He was one crazy strong and athletic dude! Still is but just a tad past his prime now.

270? If he's not 6'5", I'm calling steroids.

@@bobjohnson1633 He was on roids, but you can't just take roids and be as big as him. He's got those broad shoulders.

@@bobjohnson1633 It was not just roids lol you have to be pretty dumb to think it's all gear and not huge part genetics

@@bobjohnson1633 he's closer to 6'3".

Heard he’s the Next Big Thing

@@matthewl3002 easily the best comment under this video

He had a good future, got involved in a bbq sauce business and some other things

Brock was a JUCO champ the year previously and it showed he could hold his own here.

Strength is real is science

Brock was walking around around 305 pounds at this time, Neal is huge and he looks substantially smaller than Brock.

I met Lesnar at First Avenue in Minneapolis (The same club Prince made famous in the movie Purple Rain.) and I can honestly say the Brock is the most massive human being I have ever met in my life. TV does not do justice to how huge he is.

@@JuggoJuggo Lol there's no chance Lesnar was anywhere near 305 pounds this time, or ever

@@rykehuss3435 like you'd know anything about fitness

@@obamagaming6642 I'm an amateur boxer, also hit the gym. So I know a bit about fitness and athleticism. You on the other hand, I bet youre a real couch expert

Savage

Then Stephen Neal goes to a team where they don’t pronounce R’s at all 😂

@@BellBivDeveau underrated joke

"He is in that freak genetics class of people that could totally be roid free " There was like a 0.0001% chance either of these two weren't on the multiple PEDs lol.

@@MrBungle222 im sure you are correct, yes. Im just saying that he still was freaky genetically regardless of roids.

@@d3xm3xexactly, and you’re 100% right. Even beyond their muscular physiques, just the aptitude for performance is so beyond what an average person has Genetics are the No1 most important factor in pro sports. No amount of training will overcome someone’s superior genetics, particularly when it comes to specialized skills

Yay but the other dude never played college football, but won 3 superbowl rings thanks to BRADY :)

@@jiggyjay682 Wow, that's amazing. I didn't know that.

Bruh ca down, he’s not even top 10 best heavyweight mma fighters

@@aztecheart8426 Who isn't?

Brock isnt even a top 10 Ufc Heavyweight of all time jn all honesty

Neal didn’t and he was a stalwart guard and 3x Champ

Imagine if he trained under Bas Rutan or Ken Shamrock and went into K1.

I don't know to be he looks like a total freak of nature monstrous strong looking!

Steroids

Facts, he was even insanely strong when he was a skinny teen

Agree 100% you are exactly right. I have been around gorillas and he moves just like one. Brock is truly a monster. For those who don't know...a male silverback is estimated to bench press 2000lbs. They will tear off another gorillas arm and beat them to death with it. When attacking animals they like to grab and rip off the genitals 1st, then dismember and eat them. I dont even think a polar bear would fare well against a silverback alpha male. They are 400+ pound killing machines with human like hands and big teeth.

2 legends

Not without steroids

@@IKnowImGayWhenISayThisBut steroids or not he was still the champ

@@IKnowImGayWhenISayThisBut everyone competing at top level juices

@@IKnowImGayWhenISayThisBut go take steroids and fight even an amateurs wrestler, you'll be folded lmao.

Yeah, you'd just assume he would've. I think he was a later bloomer and 189 just wasn't a natural class for him, and he had more developing to do.

Lol LesNARRR

Small man cope

Very well put!

@@LOLLYPOPPE analysis of size and skill. Youre a creep for insulting op over this. Small man projecting.

@@LOLLYPOPPE weirdo.

@@topvillainy5867 another small man

Then again...maybe HE SHOULD HAVE!!

You're being too humble

i agree he wasn't as polished as an overall fighter but pure strength dont get you his amateur wrestling career. He is very good wrestler which is one aspect of MMA so I think that helps him even though his other disciplines might not be as strong.

@@tomdemay6147 you have a valid point. I have seen some of his matches in college wrestling and I can not deny he had legit skills. Thanks for the input.