Great review of both vehicles. I own a new Bronco and have done off road in Moab with one. I'm fond of Jeeps, but the reality is that all that "engagement" you feel after 200 miles of highway driving before getting to your destination is downright fatiguing!
@@alwayson999 Well having taken a 3 day trip out to Utah and 3 days back in my Gladiator I can confirm it will wear you out. Solid axles are what they are. They are better at rock crawling than IFS so there is a trade off. The older I get though the more I want a more refined driving experience on pavement. I've just always been a Jeep guy. I like that "Military Feel" when I get in it and drive, but Vehicles like the 4Runner and bronco are starting to catch my eye. Jeeps will always be solid axle and you can only do so much to make them "Refined" on road.
I'm not a Jeep guy but my wife is on her 3rd Jeep,a new 2 door JL and she won't even look at a Bronco. I have 2 Corvettes for fun but have to admit that the Jeep is entertaining at much lower speeds. Her last Jeep was a 2012 JK 4 door that we drove all over the country for 212000 trouble free miles and was a great vehicle!
countless bronco videos and I now finally understand the 2 engine choices offered lol 2.3 single turbo 4 cylinder and 2.7 twin turbo 6 cylinder and then the raptor with the 3.0 twin turbo 6 cylinder! thanks guys
@@tanjimbashar yeah wrangler look better than base Bronco but 2 door sas Bronco looks better than any garbage jeep built plus quality and jeep don't go together
Great video! I like the camera work, the noises, mic placement and such. You guys are analyzing these vehicles about the way I think I would. I really like how you can find good things about things that many people would complain about like the on road handling of the Jeeps solid front axle. Nice job and thanks
Woah, a season 10 episode already? Awesome! The absolute base model 2-door Bronco with a manual is so cool to me, I'm not an off-roader, or a truck/SUV guy so these are lost on me, but they are cool.
This is the absolutely BEST video comparison of these two vehicles I have found on YT. And trust me, I've watched a TON of videos comparing these two vehicles. I respect how each reviewer gave an honest assessment of each vehicle and then provided their opinion. I've been on the fence between the two of these for MONTHS, but this video perfectly sums up how I will choose. Thanks so much! I'm downloading this video so I can watch it over and over again :D
Thanks for a very good review. I have only ridden in a Jeep a couple of times; it is super capable, but a rough ride. I now own a Bronco Badlands; the ride is amazing and it is more capable than I will ever need, and it is more fun than I imagined. One thing I love about your channel for this video at least is there is no bashing of the other guy by your viewers; my thanks to your viewers.
Well equipped versions of both I think I’d still choose the Bronco. Both should retain solid resale value, the jeep always does, but once the longevity tests of the Bronco come around I imagine it will be a favorite amongst the off road community. After driving several wranglers, I don’t even have to drive the Bronco to know it’s probably far superior on the road.
@Dobbies Revenge back seat room in those is horrendous not to mention it’s far uglier than the other two. Older FJs are cool, but not sure the price tag on them merits the miles accrued. If I’m paying 20-45k for something one of these newer broncos seems like the best deal if that’s the type of vehicle I’m looking for.
I concur, the IFS on the Bronco makes it FAR superior on the road and let's face it, I don't care how many folks scream offroad, about 90% of us use our vehicles as daily drivers. Off road I believe both vehicles are equally capable ( Broncos approach, break over and departure angles are a bit better) but its the ON ROAD comfortability that makes the Bronce superior
@@BrooklynNY1979 until you do more than a rough fire trail in the bronco. Then break an A arm or cv axle. If basic overlanding and fire roads are the hardest you do then go bronco. Anything harder you need a solid front axle. Or a ultra 4 buggy lol. Tons of videos of broncos breaking a arms and cv axles on RU-vid. And I say that while admitting I actually like the bronco and it’s a good choice for many people. But you need to be aware of what these types of vehicles can actually do Offroad before going down the trail.
@@GamblerTrey Well I personally have driven the new Bronco badlands over several trails and Obstacles in Moab and have not had a breakdown. In fact there is a program called the Bronco offroadeo which allows new Bronco owners the chance to drive on guided tours to learn how to use them. The program has run over 100 people without mechanical breakdown
@@Snookchaser007 and your point is??? Because mine still stands. A ticking time bomb is a ticking time bomb. I never said it was a POS. I said it’s a risk. The same risk a Toyota has. And other IFS period. Unless you upgrade to ultra 4 type parts. But you do you. Years of evidence and tons of videos on RU-vid show this.
Ive had 5 jeeps. A Scrambler, 90 Wrangler (was an extreme rock crawler) 92 Cherokee, 02 Cherokee, 01 Grand Cherokee. Also had 5 Broncos. 74, 77, 78, 84, now an 86. I give both manufactures did a great job with these vehicles capabilities. But theres way to much technology in these two vehicles, which were designed to be basic, inexpensive, spartan vehicles. I definitely prefer the older vehicles and upgrade them myself. Fyi. Those corner fender guides are there to connect a cable from it, to the roof. It acts as a guide to keep branches from smacking the windshield.
I just picked up my Rubicon Ultimate 4xe. It's got all the creature comforts the previous jeeps were missing and more horsepower and torque than the Bronco Sasquatch. I really love the way the Bronco looks and what Ford has done, but having 370 horsepower and 470 lb feet of instant electrified torque under my foot with the Rubicon is unmatched. It's great to see competition in the space, but hard to beat Jeep's 80 year pedigree.
@@Full_Deflection Congrats! Mine is going strong and shows no signs of any issues. I've done 1000 mile road trips, pulled RVs, and daily driven within the city regularly. It's a solid machine and I have no regrets. I hope you have the same experience.
@@mehdisy3d awesome. Good to know for sure. So far I’m loving it. The only thing I’ve noticed is a bit of a rear brake bias, probably due to regenerative braking. It’s only noticeable in the rain under heavy braking. Otherwise, it’s been a fantastic machine.
@@Full_Deflection I agree, there does seem to be a bit more bite from the rear brakes, but I find regen off helps with that. I personally don't mind it on even in the rain/snow though. Glad you're enjoying your new ride! ✌🏼
Wanted the Bronco but went with the Wrangler since they have better prices (no adm), more availability and I got the EV tax credit on the 4xe PHEV. Loving it so far.
I have a 2014 2 dr Jeep with 110k miles. Only reason I’d trade mine in is to get a 4 door. The bronco is intriguing, but it does look borderline too big even without test driving it. I’d lean towards sticking with Jeep simply bc I know them, but it’s nice to have competition out there (which benefits the consumers).
Always been a bronco fan. I’ve had two old monsters and love them. It’s nice to see a new version come out and keep to what it was and add on to keep them pushing forward. Can’t wait to buy a new one.
Just got back from Hawaii where I rented a wrangler unlimited Sahara for a week. Absolutely epic off road, but it was atrocious on the road. Felt borderline unsafe. Came away unsure of why people buy them unless they live hundreds of miles away from the nearest pavement
I had a close friend who was a diehard Wrangler guy. I drove all 3 that he owned and it has to be by far the worst highway vehicle. Completely capable off road, but you don’t purchase one as a daily, that’s for sure
You mentioned the Wrangler was designed best for rock crawling. I wonder if it would do as well as a Bronco in baja. The Bronco at high speed in sand is a ton of fun! I know they're more comfortable on the road because my brother has the Rubicon and it's not comfortable at all on a longer road trip. The Bronco was very comfortable to drive on a long road trip!
Jeep came out with the Mojave trim on the Gladiator and it's setup with different shocks etc geared more toward Baja style off roading, but honestly being a Jeep guy if I lived out west instead of the east coast and my primary fun was ripping through the desert I would have an IFS setup all day long vs a solid axle. Solid axle is just King on the rocks at crawl speeds though.
Getting a Wrangler has been on my mind for a while but I was always hesitant due to the fact that I would need it to be a good commuter car and I dont think the Wrangler has that going for it. The Bronco seems to be checking off most of the boxes that I wanted the Wrangler to improve on, now I'm going to wait a little bit and see if the hybrid Bronco gets announced anytime soon.. that would make the ford a full buy for me
Great review as always to me the four-door version of these vehicles have always been non-starters because if I need four doors in an off-road or I'll just get a Grand Cherokee trailhawk but that's just me personally
If you want to rock crawl and keep all 4 tires on the ground get a Jeep Wrangler. If you want to do light to moderate trails with better road manners get the Bronco or a 4Runner/Tacoma. You can get a base Rubicon for mid $50k throw a 3in lift and 37 in tires on it and do just about any trail you want. You can't modify a IFS to get that much capability for that amount of money.
As a Jeep owner I must say, BRONCO will be King! It's On road superiority destroys the jerky jarring uncomfortable jeep. Off road they are about equal ( Broncos angles are a bit better). But the majority of us use our vehicles as daily drivers and we need comfortability!
@@rdiamond655 Yes sir. The guys were true down-to-Earth gentlemen. They took the time to stop filming and chat for a while with us about the important things in life: save the manual, 911’s, etc. 😎
My wife and I decided we wanted to start off-roading. I had done a lot of dirt-biking, but never owned a 4x4, and now I'm a little too old to keep dirt-biking. I'm kind of a Ford guy, always wanted an original Bronco, and if the new Bronco had been available we probably would own one now. But it wasn't. So we talked about buying a used Rubicon. They hold their value incredibly well and, as you pointed out, have ruled off-roading for decades. We figured with a nice slightly used Rubicon we could get our off-road feet wet (dirty) and then trade for a Bronco in a year or two if we wanted. But the price of nice, used Rubicons is so close to new ones, we started looking at new. When we discovered that Jeep had made available the Xtreme Recon package (think Sasquatch goes Jeep,) we figured we could drive a new Wrangler XR for a year or two and then maybe even make money on a trade for a Bronco Badlands Sasquatch. We bought a new 2021 Wrangler Unlimited (i.e., 4-door) Rubicon with the Xtreme Recon Package. We still haven't driven a Bronco, but its chances, and our interest, are fading fast. We both love our Jeep! Too bad your comparison couldn't have compared a Rubicon Xtreme Recon to the Bronco Sasquatch. The Jeep reminds us both of a certain mid-engine German 2-seat sportscar that also occupies our garage; both do what they do better than anything else, and put huge, stupid, grins on our faces every time we drive them. I still want to drive a Bronco, but it will have to be really special to take the place of our Jeep.
This is an utterly fantastic review - as always - of two vehicles I couldn't be less interested in owning. Never the less, excellent and entertaining content, thank you guys!
We got a 23 4xe on order now. We test drove quite a few different broncos first but my wife and I both liked the jeep better. Not that we thought the bronco was bad, we just liked the overall feel of the jeep better. It was tough trying to decide which one to get, but the 4xe rubicon fit the bill better for our needs.
Really enjoyed your video, thanks. As a professional Jeep driver, I had to experience the Bronco for myself, and so much of what you said resonates with me. Bronco's on-road manners and the 10-speed were highlights, but I felt its size, even though it was no more roomy inside. Bronco fit and finish was not quite as good as I'd hoped (wobbly handles; exposed wiring harnesses; no rear-seat air), plus I also felt kinda "insulated" from the overall driving experience. So while I respect Bronco and am glad it will help everyone by forcing Jeep to up their game, my heart remains with the XR Rubicon ❤
One of these days, I'll have to grow up and buy something that isn't a sports car. The wife and I were leaning towards the Bronco for our mountains trail excursions, I think this review puts us on team Jeep Rubicon. Great video🙏🏼🤠
As always, great comparison. Although I currently drive a Jeep Grand Cherokee Trailhawk, I would get a Bronco if my budget allowed it. I know you were in Colorado for this shoot, but what trail did you take off-road? The views were spectacular. Thanks again for the great content. Liked and subscribed.
Nice comparison. I hope the day doesn’t come that Jeep ditches the solid front axle for IFS to get better on road handling. IFS doesn’t handle the abuse as well. I currently have 3 wranglers. One of which I have had for almost 20 years now. All 3 are daily drivers during the week and off-road on the weekends.
Owned both and wheeled with both. Never had an issue with IFS and Solid Axel. Most people don't off-road hard like litebrite but if doing that extreme offroading like they do then yeah some serious upgrades to ifs is needed to handle the abuse. IFS will only get better and better. Solid axel is outdated tech and the only SUV left with solid axel in production is the Wrangler. Mercedes got rid of it for their g-wagon.
Heh, I'm pretty sure I saw you guys filming this a while back. Looks like you are on peak to peak in the some of the video. But, I think I saw you guys in Boulder Canyon pulled over to the side. Knew I should have stopped! I remember seeing the bronco with the jeep and was thinking, that's a little odd, since most of the groups are either in one camp or the other. It was the first Bronco I had seen in real life.
Hey! I worked on the new Escape, Corsair and a bit on the Bronco/Ranger! :) The people at Ford were awesome, my team was awesome, but my company was absolute garbage at people management or acknowledgements. Went onto cooler stuff, but I love seeing them in the road.
I’ve driven some really nice and new handling sports cars and performance sedans…and I don’t get it. When I drove the JL Jeep, outside of my early style (now fixed) loose steering gearbox…the JL handles and drives better than many normal sedans and trucks in the last 20 years. So if I start swirling and spitting wine out, does the wine’s supposed shortcomings become more apparent? If I have to concentrate that hard on the very minor differences …it’s likely not worth your concern. The turning radius and narrower track of the JL is a nice margin of safety to have depending where you drive. The narrower the shelf road, the tighter the trail, the sharper the turn…the JL seems to excel here vs the Bronco. And if I don’t care about bigger…I’m gonna go a little bigger to have more payload and just go full size SUV or Truck.
Everyone would if they took off the brand bias. Outside of the minor articulation advantage the Wrangler has....the Bronco is hands down the better vehicle.
I’ve got a 2 door Bronco Badlands and that thing is an absolute mountain goat. Both vehicles are super capable, but what does it for me is the styling. The bronco looks mean. It looks masculine and powerful, the Jeep looks like a yuppie dad car. The older generation jeeps used to look way cooler. All I know is, if I’m spending 70k on my truck, I better really like the way it looks.
You guys are both 6’3 and don’t find the Wrangler seat bottoms inhospitable (both too short, and at the wrong angle, it leaves your legs almost completely suspended in air)? I’m 6 feet (mostly leg, versus Todd’s long torso) and from a test drive it became apparent I wouldn’t last more than an hour without severe leg cramping.
I own both and all I have to say is. I love both 99 wrangler 4.0L manual, and a 21 With the Sasquatch with the 10 speed. Let’s just say one of these guys is a fan boy badly lol.
What a great review Everyday Driver! If the Rubicon was outfitted with the Eco Diesel for this exact review would it change either of your results at all in any way? Thanks.
I do like the new Bronco, but I think you guys, and the off-road community as a whole, are pushing an incorrect comparison. A lot of people WANT it to be a Jeep competitor, but with the Bronco having independent front suspension, I believe it's going to be a bigger competitor to the Toyota Tacoma in the overlanding market than it will be to the Jeepers in the serious off-road arena. With what you guys "put it through", the Bronco is very capable, however once into serious rock-crawling, the Bronco's lack of articulation with the IFS starts becoming an issue.
Todd is a smart man, he agrees with his wife! Just kidding, I don't think you can go wrong with these, it is like when the BRZ gave the Miata competition for the first time in recent history.
Both looks great. For starters I’m sure the bronco drives better with that IFS up front. That’s what’s independent suspension does. It absorbs bumps better. But independent suspension doesn’t have the durability of a solid axle and that’s obvious. Also the bronco is waaaaay to new so the aftermarket parts haven’t been developed fully yet. I saw a low trim package bronco for sale the other day and they wanted $75,000 for it. It didn’t even have 35s. You could buy an hemi wrangler for that price. Dealer markup is criminal at the moment, I don’t even know what people pay for the badlands trim🤢. I’ll stick with my tractor suspension for now, plus it’s only the first model year, so you gotta let them work out the kinks. You’ll start to see them in mall parking lots all over like the wrangler and the prices will go down more. Demand is just waaaaay to high over supply.
A Bronco is on my list, though I’m on my 3rd Two door Wrangler (99, 10, 14). If you put a decent set of light truck road tires on them, the highway steering greatly improves. Still, once prices and availability normalize, I will look real hard at a Bronco.
I always thought the proper trim to get a Jeep in was the Mojave, not the Rubicon. The designed frame and suspension upgrades I thought would make for a better road driving experience, both in comfort and dynamics, while still retaining 90%+ of the off-road characteristics and abilities of the Rubicon. Anyone care to enlighten me? EDIT: I just enlightened myself and found they do not (yet?) make a Mojave spec Wrangler, only the Gladiator. Anyone with a Gradiator Mojave have any knowledge to share?
I purchased a 2021 Jeep Gladiator and came close to purchasing the Mojave. The Fox shocks and 33s were at first very attractive. After further research I landed with the Rubicon. If you want fully locking diffs, sway bar disconnect and the optional diesel you have to get Rubicon. The fact is the Mojave offers a more limited off road capability aimed more at high speed desert driving. If you want to do some rock crawling, rubicon is the way.
@@Spoolingturbski Very good points. But outside of the locking diffs, where they were off roading in the video, would the Mojave not be sufficient? Even without the locking diffs, would the Mojave not be capable enough to handle where they went? If so, with the vehicle spending a majority of it's time on paved roads, I question wether the Mojave would be the better all around set up.
@@wttwtg4165 you must not fully understand the off road community in which Jeep encompasses. Being “good enough” isn’t going to cut it. Being equipped to take on whatever you happen to encounter on a trail is.
@@Wrangzilla You must be understating technological advancement for a lack of off road driving skills. Not to mention these people don't live on the trail. Without these Jeeps as they are now, no way anyway has anyone ever been able to tackle these trails. Sure, if you dive deep enough into any community, the specialization needed at the tip of the spear is incredible. Most people are not at that level, so good for you for showing off your knowledge. Go away now.
@@wttwtg4165 Well if you’re planning mostly in city driving on pavement and taking the Jeep to some sand dunes, beach and moderate trails you’d be set because that’s what is was engineered to do. But for myself I wanted a Jeep Wrangler with a bed. The Rubicon gives me that, it also gives me the ultimate set up with the availability of the diesel.
Seems to be that Jeep is better weekend warrior and the Bronco is a better “overlander” / daily driver. The difference seems pretty subtle though so that’s pretty cool they are that comparable.
Good video but the pricing is deceiving. I have a 2022 SAS Badlands high package and if you get the same option with the JEEP Rubicon its cost more.. you actually get more with the Bronco.. So you are comparing apples to oranges on pricing. Is it me or are some folks only thinking rock crawling is the only off road option!!??.. So far i feel like exteme rock crawling is what beats the Bronco.. Both are great machines but i do think the Bronco takes the cake so far.. Let's see what the Jeep counters with in the coming years..
Excellent review and scenery as always. A bit disappointed that I cannot share this video to MEJ, and other Manual Enthusiast groups though. Really looking forward to and hoping for another comparison of these two off-roaders with 3 pedals. 🙃😎
I had an early 2000's wrangler bought brand new with an automatic transmission. It was a horrific experience in so many ways. The transmission was so bad i feel dread every time I see one on the street & I've only owned standard cars since then.
I'd lovevto see anles between ifs and single axles al9ng the same route with vehicles as close to eachboghrr, tires height, center of geavity, etc, as possible and see movements, angles, and shakes between the two.
The Bronco is having serious problems with the front independent suspension. Broken tie rod ends, axles and complete steering racks! Jeeps Wrangler JL is build a lot stronger for off-road use…
Only a few select people and it's when they add bigger tires like 37s. Stock this isn't happening. It's clear other mods are needed for it to handle bigger tires. They will fix that eventually and have addressed it with the bronco Raptor with upgrade parts that were failing so it can handle 37s.
Its just great that the wrangler now has a very capable alternative aside from the old fj cruiser. Jeep tends to focus too much on extreme offroading and leave out the driveability and practicality for some. As much as I like jeep wranglers, these new ford broncos tend to be more practical to many drivers. Better for daily driver, high speed and long distance travels. I find it hard to think if jeep would change their principles and make a daily driver version of wrangler, having an IFS. Thats why its a win win for the offroading world having the new broncos. No need to wait for jeep or toyota to make some innovations.
Oddly I think on road is where these 2 will decide which is the better overall vehicle. It looks like the Bronco has a more modern 4WD system that can drive on concrete whereas the Jeep is still using that same old fashioned system that shouldn't be used on concrete because it locks the hubs. Granted, if you wanted something more road friendly then you could get either Grand or regular Cherokee model...but those aren't the same offroad as the Wrangler, so with Jeep you are always settling.
It’s hard to just pick between the two when they are both so incredible. I drive a Wrangler JL now and I went with that because of the EcoDiesel motor.
At least for now I think the Bronco wins on presence alone. Jeeps are such a common sight, but I get excited every time I see a new Bronco. Maybe in a couple years we'll all be bored by the Bronco, but at the moment they sure make a statement. Also, I have a lot more confidence in Ford's overall reliability/longevity compared to a Stellantis product.
@@19hundoc47 Mechanical reliability, specifically. Many brand new products have bugs early in the production run, but I trust Ford to fix things and I generally trust Fords to run. Can't always say that about the Chrysler family. Of course there are always exceptions on both sides (Taurus SHO, for example), and maybe the Bronco will be a disaster, but I'm hopeful it'll be solid.
@@sprattbooks I don’t trust Ford anymore. I had an ecoboost engine right off the lot that went into limp mode all the time with a couple thousand miles on it and I had a Mustang 5.0 that blew its engine at 29k miles completely stock and I never raced it. I’ve had multiple Rams and Wranglers and they have never been in the shop.
@@sprattbooks Plenty of stories about Rams. My neighbor has the 2020 1500, looks great, on his 2nd motor and it sounded eerie about his current situation, sitting at the dealership. Almost sounds as if the trans went. Point being, manufacturers have their bad experiences. People claim highly of Toyotas reliability, but my Tundra ended up with a blown trans and a driveshaft failure in the first 12,000 miles.
well 2 be fair the Bronco has a lot of add on and the Jeep had the low end engine. you can get a 65K jeep, that's why I hate these comparisons when you compare at 65K with a 50k. Just get two 50k or two 65k and then compare the two. If you can't then do a review of one don't compare when you have 15k difference........didn't even have the same size tires and you can get the bigger tires on the Jeep and a V8........
I have a 4 door Bronco Badlands with the Lux tech package coming for 51k. It's a direct price comparison to the jeep they have in this video and it is crazy loaded....adaptive cruise, subwoofer, heated steering wheel, LED lighting...for the Price, a new Wrangler is just not impressive.
I looked at and test drove the bronco and a jeep gladiator and ended up buying a new gladiator rubicon. They are both good vehicles the truck was just better for me. If your thinking of buying one be sure and test drive them and talk to some owners and see what they say. What ever you do don't listen to some one that doesn't own one or hasn't even driven one. There is a lot of trolls on here just shooting their mouth off.
One thing thats revealing, is the fact that these vehicles prices really tell you how much money people have to make at their jobs. And what they also must do to supplement financially what more is needed. If your paying 68 grand for your car. we are talking a good $2,500 a month expense, on top of fuel needs and maintenance before even getting into your own mortgage and home expenese, oil gas electric, Food, other bills we're talking a good $6000 a month no less than 72grand a year. And thats just one vehicles. when people have typically have 3 or 4. and that means they must be pulling no less than 130grand a year. near 11 grand a month.
Lol. I have a 20 Rubicon on 37’s and over 20k in upgrades , an 09 MINI Cooper for daily driving, a nice house, single income, and don’t make nowhere near that kind of money..
Everyone is not going to rock climbing everyday. Most buyers will use this as a daily driver. It's cool to be in the Jeep club with all of the aftermarket accessories. Most people will choose the Bronco if they are a first time buyers of new purchase, of this type of vehicle because of the comfort in daily driving. Stock model bronco over stock wrangler will be better on fuel economy. When you are a jeep owner you want to accessorize and adding weight, bigger tires brings your gas milage down. Same with the bronco you start adding weight, tires it pulls the fuel economy down. Bronco still takes in that 80s/90s bronco crossroad feel but adding offroad competition.
