Brothers Karamazov by Dostoevsky is the greatest book ever written | Jordan Peterson and Lex Fridman 

dont worry ben, michael has no idea who is pure of heart and who isn't nor is pure of heart even a useful thing. an act of faith isn't the same thing as having faith. and the true world being spiritual, laughable. cant prove nor disprove that, thus useless. the only veil over anyone's eyes is thinking that anybody has clue about anything we cant see or hear. and that leads to another realm of paradoxes. point is anyone can say some dumb shit complicated enough to look good. but its just shit with a suit on. like this here to somebody somewhere this is dumb lol, who cares live life before its over...... or will it ever end...... to infinity and beyond

If your self esteem is built on esteemable acts then the evidence is not ambivalent.

it's an act of complacent arrogance

@@bobbymacdermott6137 looks like they got the fear taught into you very very deep. Sorry that you have to live a life like that. Sorry you got tricked into hating ppl by our government.

This is it. This is the core of human conscience and the ultimate choice. And this is where I part from Peterson and the act of faith.

I read it. Took me 2-3 attempts because I was very young when I bought it, maybe 17 or so. Eventually, in my mid 20's, I picked it up again and sat through it, quite astonishing how amazing that story is. The pacing, the depth, the detail. I remembering finishing it and my mind spent weeks or maybe even months internally discussing what I had just read, and applying it to my own life and the real world. I read it again in my early 30's and took a little more from it. Everyone should read Crime & Punishment, just as everyone should read Electric Sheep by P.K. Dick.

I read Crime and Punishment in my late teens or early 20's. I remember thinking then, that can't happen here, USA. Not much later I realized corruption is endemic to the system, regardless of geography, politics, or time!

Really??! Seriously??! even more than Joyce or shakespeare?? hmmmmm

@@alexanderordinary2110 From my pretty sparse reading experiences in terms of whats available over the centuries, I'd regard Dostoevsky as one of the best. Top five easily. Always been an admirer of Shakespeares flow and insight, and Voltaires sublime crunching of fluff while maintaining reason. No idea who Joyce is. Phillip K Dick, for what it's worth, is also legendary when he is at his best, in terms of mastery of chunking and taking a chisel to the written word. I remember reading Man In The High Castle and after reading an entire paragraph, I paused to marvel at how much was in those 7-8 lines of text, when it hit me - there wasn't a SINGLE period used, either. I read that paragraph over and over again. Shocked at how good it was.

@@alexanderordinary2110 , probably in your perception of the world, Shakespeare and the other guy( who's him ?) ..are the responsible of delivering Messages in order to change the point of view of everyone who've been reading masterpieces of literature looking for a real content in a book.. I am sorry to say to you ,and very cynical as well , that Shakespeare and the rest of the gang are just good books to read with a more allegorical sense than philosophical. Dostoevsky goes right to the bottom of the humanity's boundaries and develops a deep understanding of the spiritual and nature facts of the human being...

Better to read Shalamov, Bunin, Sorokin and Gluhovski. Lermontov and Pushkin were typical impire writer. Shakamov 100% better than Solzhenicin. Lev Tołstoj created a myth about 19th century. More Russian writers mades fakes.

What a great list. I do love Chekhov's plays as well. The Cherry Orchard is amongst my favorites.

No kazandzakis? Last temptation zorba ect…

@@Skabanis where on the reading list would you put them? I was trying to keep the number to 10. So my question is simply who would you replace?

It's a good list but I would add: "How It All Began" by Nikolai Bukharin It's a sweeping, dynamic portrait of turn-of-the-century Russia. The book is unfinished, but that's because he was executed, so I won't begrudge him that

is this book good? I cant read! Im 1! signed, Joey (age 1)

We are a nation of writers. The Russian language is so rich that the country gives birth to writers and poets like donuts

That was a deep cut. Of course Peterson has read it!

@@user-be6ye6cp3sWe are the nation of butchers and slaves! Don’t flatter yourself!

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Thank you for giving me a reason to read Brothers Karamazov again!

Someone told me 3 times too, young, middle, old

@@thejohnbeck 100%. I read it when I was young. Now just read it twice again in middle age.

The only other novel I think that is comparable is Melville's Moby Dick. To me, both Brothers Karamazov and Moby Dick are head and shoulders above the rest. Melville and Dostoyevsky could see where this ship of humanity was sailing, and gave us prophetic warnings.

@@overlandkltolondon you did that wrong lol

Hugo, Hunchback! Fratellli tutti para 15

Jesus... i feel the same. I mean, i have to try this Mikhail Bulgákov's "the master and margarita" for sure, as Peterson says

, You u must have been brought up in Yugoslavia, I had to read crime and punishment in highschool (gimnazija) , not 17 Year old, and I didn't get it. When I got to around 25 my junkie friend wanted to sell the Sabrana dela Dostojevskog for some puny money, I didn't let him, called his father, and took them all to keep it for his father. I remember clearly how I got sucked into the rabbit hole of reading and re reading, it did ruined a lot of books from very successful and critically acclaimed authors, but I feel that it made me see myself and others in different way, I was much harder to be manipulated and wanting to manipulate others much less. Unfortunately , it didn't bring me joy, just knowledge since I'm not religious and couldn't bring myself to that. Ultimately, if you're not religious, it's better to be dim or dumb than educated and somewhat smart, much less emotional suffering to be had, and you can't enjoy financial success if you have empathy and live in this world. Salute from your eastern neighbor!

You guys have clearly never read Tolkien or Sapkowski. Their books are better than those of Dostoevsky, it's not even close.

@@josecesar9776 great book. Read it. Not as serious as BK though

What no,I think when he lost money from gambling,he promised to write “The gambler” before the deadline,or am I wrong?

@@Edwin38397 well as I understand they wanted “something” from him by the deadline and he started to work on it but didn’t like the result and quickly came up with gambler as a replacement (player in my version lol, had no idea how the name is translated to English, but gambler definitely fits better)

It's so amazing that people do stuff for money!

@@gertstronkhorst2343 the thing here is that usually people have to put all their soul and have other motivations then money to create something really amazing But this guy could just do brilliant stuff on demand so he could gamble and party a bit, not for some “high goals” or smth

I think you're thinking of The Gambler

@@yyyy12344Well if you can read Russian then certainly that’s better. But if not then reading the English is better than not reading it at all.

That's a stupid exaggerated statement. He says that because he doesn't like Nietzsche's critique of Christianity (organized religion) or his advocacy for atheism. What a naive little audience you make. it is only too clear that once the miserable swine are reduced to worshipping chastity - they will only see and worship in it the antithesis to themselves, the antithesis to miserable swine. The appearance of the Christian God as the most powerful god ever conceived has for that very reason brought into the world the greatest feeling of indebtedness as well. If we have in fact gradually started to retreat from that, we should not find it difficult to conclude with a fair degree of certainty, from the gradual but inexorable abandonment of belief in the Christian God, that a considerable loss of the sense of indebtedness has already occurred; indeed, we cannot shut our eyes to the pros pect of the complete and eventual triumph of atheism, freeing mankind from all this feeling of indebtedness to their origin, their causa prima.48 Atheism and a kind of secondary innocence complement and supplement one another." (genealogy of morality)

@@Anicius_ I read Neitzsche for years in the culmination of leaving the Catholicism I was raised in. While I couldn't read the original German, the poetry and beauty of his impassioned arguements show through. There is no arguing Neitzsche was a gifted poet and philosopher. I myself spent a lot of time putting down and mocking Christians telling them how free they'd be as an atheist. But being honest I wasn't free myself. Making a long story short Neitzsche got one thing wrong that nullifies his whole beautiful sounding philosophy: God really did make us and made us will free will. Why can we know that? I heard an arguement at 14 that prompted me to be an atheist. In short, because evil exists in this world, there is no God because no good God would allow that. But it is plainly false because a loving, good God would not want mechanons "loving" Him unable to choose. God loves us so much when He created us He gave us the ability to reject Him. Only where there is freedom to decide is there love. God doesn't will the evil of this world, Icaeus. He simply allows it because this world is only a transitory but fascinating place. This life is simply about choice. There is a God. Get to know Him. The Prayer of Saint Francis is a great start. I would highly recommed reading The Demons by Dostoyevsky for an excellent portrait, not of Neitzsche, but the people he influenced. It is a far easier intro to Dostoyevsky than Brothers K. Also, since you liked reading Neitzsche as I did, I think you'll love G.K. Chesterton. There are a lot of good yt vids on him to get you started. Give him a try. I forgive your condescending comment whole heartedly because I was far worse in my condescension to others years ago.

Definitely. In Crime and Punishment the theme of the Ubermensch is a major one

@@nikolamilicevic1040 Freedom is a difficult question these days. The so-called democracies claim freedom as a virtue. But "freedom" like that and free will are different things. Free will is the freedom to choose to do the right thing. Freedom is not permission to do whatever we want. Or to put it another way, some people confuse freedom with deciding what is right and what is wrong for themselves. We can't vote morality. I think I understand when you speak about unintelligent people making poor decisions. Much hurt in the world is caused by that. But I would point out that many of the problems in the world are also caused by very intelligent people. God made each of us. He knows our short-comings. To a person He gives more He will expect more. We aren't here for this world. We are made in the image and likeness of God. We are not just body and intellect, we have a soul. That soul will live on forever. This world will never be perfect. Jesus even said the poor will ALWAYS be with you. It is easy to say "If only these people would do this... If we only had this program or political system the world would be better." It never works. I think that is what I like so much about Dostoyesky. He writes about that struggle in a very deep way. The cost of being right or wrong in this world can be our very soul. But it isn't an intellectual choice or the idea of free will that gets us to Heaven. We need God's help all the way. Certainly we cannot prove that there is an afterlife. But you or anyone else can't disprove it. Ask God to come into your life. Ask Him to teach you how to live to be pleasing to Him and to give you the strength to live that way. If you are wrong in the end and you die and disappear what will you have lost. But if you are wrong you might lose everything. On your point about the insane woman who murdered her children I say that is no excuse for anything. Jesus, God Himself, was betrayed by Judas, one of His own apostles. Why should we expect any less in our own lives? We want the world to be a good place and we work hard to make it so. And many times the world is a terrible place because other people decide they disagree with the other people. Free will is not without terrible consequences. You said you do not want to be forced by God or religion to do what you don't want to do. Same with everyone else. But that doesn't mean there is no God. It means God's ways are so far above our ways that He can still keep in mind everyone of us as if we were the only one there. And by the way as my post was originally about Dostoyevsky you didn't say if you read anything by him?

Nietzsche reached depths Dostoevsky could only dream about. He influenced most of the major thinkers after him

I Can't believe your putting Dante and Solzenitsyn in the same conversation

My favorite is _The Castle_ by Kafka. Peterson briefly mentioned Kafka here, but _The Castle_ is not his most popular book. I think it's Kafka's best (difficult to say though). Unfortunately, the novel ends mid-sentence due to Franz Kafka's untimely death. Still, my favorite book.

The fact that it ended with so much more story to tell really bummed me out. I know it's not his fault for not finishing it obviously. But I didn't know that it just abruptly ended.

@@jacopopispola9925 why?

It warms my heart to see someone who has also read "The Castle" ! There is just something about this book and I can not understand what it is. I mean it is not even a finished story but it is utterly amazing. It put me in a kind of fever-dream state where everything seems so unreal but in a good, interesting way. I would say this book is the perfect definition of the term "Kafkaesk".

Also try Crime And Punishment.

how is lex well versed?

@@mkballer4502did you watch this clip? Here is an example of what the OP is referencing

@@jakenbake9878 OP lol, I thought I was on reddit considering I deleted my account few days ago.

have you ever read a novel by Thomas Mann? Magic Mountain or Buddenbrooks are his most famous works. Thomas Mann also wrote Joseph and his brothers. It's the greatest challenge accepted of all time. He started writing the book because Wolfgang Goethe wrote that he wished the biblical Joseph story to be longer and more masterfully written. Thomas Mann who has seen himslef as Goethes soulmate was like '"oh you mean you could'nt do it" and started writing this massive work. Thomas Manns kids hated their father they always praised his genius writing skills but also talked bad about some of his works. Well even they claimed that Joseph and His Brothers is as important as the Ilias and the Odyssey. That made me want to read this book and i have to say it might be even better than Brothers Karamazov. It really is that good and it is a shame that Manns other works overshaddow Joseph and his brothers even tough Joseph is considered his Main-work

@@TheMonsterHunterTV Thank you for that intriguing recommendation! I'm looking that up now

I just read it for the first time this very month. It had been gathering dust on my shelf for years. Ah! I could have used the "wake up" fifteen years ago. If anyone reading this is hemming and hawing about reading The Brothers K, just do it!

Have you read the Bible? It will pull you off death.

Love Jordan bringing up Master and Margarita. One of my favourites. Fabulous book. Unless you speak Russian, get a good translation.

The Grand Inquisitor is something I think about on a daily basis these days

No, there is not any special meaning or context in the brothers' names. Just common names. Still very popular. Have never heard any theories about their names. But there is an idea that Mitya is a body, Ivan is a brain and Alyosha is a soul of a human. But don't like it. And don't think Dostoevsky meant something like that.

@@user-ls3ww9ys4o My professor was a native Russian and a brilliant man. I am not a native Russian speaker, so I really have no idea. Have a good day.

@@Charlie-qe6lv my professor of Russian literature was also brilliant:) but there is really no special meaning of the brothers' names... May be it was your professor's own point of view. Have a nice Day, too:)

@@user-ls3ww9ys4o my dad could beat your dad up

Really? I barely finished it. I really regret the time I spent on it. Too stretched and lackluster in my opinion. But hey, to each its own :)

In War and Peace you read 5 pages how leave falls out of the tree.

its interesting that u even re read it because i even cant finish one book because it was too boring. Maybe because we had to read it when i was at school - in russia i mean. But even in russian its hard to read and understand.

Too long winded and stretched out for me. Too many wasted pages saying nothing.

@@igorvyshnianchyn8983 It's a challenging read: part philosophical treatise, part history book, while mostly a novel. Pierre Bezukhov has one of the most developed character arcs in fiction. Tolstoy vivifies life like no other narrative artist. The ball becomes as real off the page as the battle, and we come to understand the senile father with the same degree as we understand his cowering yet loving daughter.

Can be considered best ever? That's quite the statement. Can you provide us with a list of the books you've read among the millions that exist that would help back up such a big statement? Next time try and chill with your ego. You've read Dostoevsky and listen to Peterson, we get it.

DA!

Dostoevsky didn't wrote ex-nihilo. His thought n life profundly influnced by Judeo-Christian ideals n day to say life.

@@MonkeyDIvan u made shit skin

@@MonkeyDIvan My guy, they’re not claiming they know for a fact that it’s objectively the greatest book ever written. Everyone in the universe has had this conversation of the best movie/show/book/whatever in a given category. Tying it to fans is extremely cringe.

Now everyone read it 🙄

It truly is. Surprised to hear lex say that The Idiot was also a favorite, it felt like a 800 page soap opera to me. But the ending had a very deep end substantive twist for sure.

Honestly I was more annoyed by the rather submissive and docile prince and the overly emotional and dramatic divas he simped for

There are many great books. Labyrinths by Jorge Luis Borges is a greater book that The Brother Karamazov. Same with many I can think of.

The heart is a lonely hunter touched the fabric of human reality for me too.

This is the most honest comment I’ve read on RU-vid in years. Your a good person Jacob and that’s all that matters in the end.

This is a very sweet back and forth, well done you two

Steinbeck is great as well , maybe because i read my first at school but his books made me feel emotions. That got me into reading.

Nothing wrong with that my friend.

Me to Also a good song by lynyrd skynard

Did you finish yet? The most significant chapter, to me, was The Grand Inquisitor. I'm still thinking about it, 30 years later.

That scene was inspired by an actual crime in Russia where that really happened.

"The Master and Margarita" is a sarcastic book. Nobody understand the Soviet sarcasm even nowadays Russians. 😀

"The Master And Margarita" is an "Ironic" book, Pokes some fun at the Communist system, but has a beautiful relationship sub-plot, AND a great, easy to read representation of things that may have happened during a certain Passover week in the time of the second temple! 😃

That is literally true. Especially the father Karamazov.

@@speakrussian6779 It goes deeper than a sarcasm on reality of these times It was a reflection of fears and religion things and eternal questions of finding your way and place in the world

It's a slow burn of a book. But around the middle of it, it slowly starts to pick up steam and it gets hard to put down to the very end

While all my friends in high school were doing drugs and partying I read one of his books off The shelf. Still remember it.

What is your favorite kazantzakis book. I’ve read three so far and love them all. Probably Greek passion is my favorite idk

You can't afford him

@@sLw1337 You might be shocked by what I can afford when I want something.

what if the crime you needed to hire someone to commit was being the "straighest gay guy"

@@BlastinRope That role would probably be easier to pull off convincingly than one of "the gayest straight guy".

@@matthewz5220 lol

I think that describes half the commenters.

Please include Solzhenitsyn!

Bruh ... Good referral ... Just disc. And def. Gonna dive in 5 hrs !!

Thx for the heads-up. Can you tell be the name of the episode pls?

@@jontip It's #20 The Underground Spirit. It's true that the episode name doesn't really give it away.

@@HeremansIsaac1 Nice one Isaac, looking forward to hearing lt 🙌

I’ve listened to this over and over and discover new information each time

Worked for me!

@GWRG Happy to hear it

Don't forget Robert Greene😊

Ralph waldo Emerson. from US

Thank you for sharing

Another Bulgarian here. For some reason I still haven’t read it. About time to open it up. 🙏 thanks for reminding.

Machado de Assis, Brazil

The 25th hour by Virgil Gheorghiu from Romania

ok... i have read your comment......feel better? and i think/am convinced that if one reads a masterpiece, one is indeed in the company of the writer having a drink together🥃☕

Calm down. It's a podcast

Crime and punishment is way more of an enjoyable read

I strongly believe that Crime and punishment is a remake of the short story by Edgar Allan Poe called "The Tell-Tale Heart" published in 1843.

@@ibnkhaldun7373 the murder and it getting the best of their conscious is for sure really similar, but the point of the two stories are different. The theme of each isn’t really unique, anyone could come up with the idea of those stories, the differences of the two stories are immense and the length comparison alone

If you want your mind blown read East of Eden

I am reading it in English and its rough.

@@annishenko I’m sorry to hear :( I imagine translation is even harder to read than the original.

@@alewoanna maybe. My native language is Russian but I dont remember much after moving to America. I am though confused by the name Aglayah. Does it sound so much like " naglayah " to you ? It distracts me

@@annishenko you made me chuckle :) I am not annoyed by the name (it’s kinda beautiful in an old-fashioned way), but I can see your point about “naglaya” 😀

@@annishenko you say AglAya. And nAglaya. So it's diffrent to me. I have a friend who's daughter is Aglaya))))

That’s odd. I find him to be a pretentious asshole. Guess different strokes for different folks

right on. every person is living their own reality and they think they have all the answers.. i used to also hahah. whew i woke up. now I know I'm dumb as shit, and so is everyone else.. knowing what everyone else knows doesn't make us smart just makes us as knowledgeable as everyone else lol. that is not smart just common

@@joshjackson678 That's too bad, I never think of myself as "dumb" why would I? Treat yourself better.

@@PEPSEP treating yourself like you know something when you really don’t is more harmful than knowing one is dumb in the grand scale of things.

@@joshjackson678 Huh? So the only alternative, in your mind, is to call myself dumb, and if I don't then I am claiming to know everything? How do we learn? because by that rationale no one knows anything. All I said was be nice to yourself, and don't call yourself dumb.

Welcome

TbK is great> i believe in god. What a complete non sequitur

Orthodoxy is the true faith. Elder Zosima was based off of Sts. Ambrose of Optina and Tikhon of Zadonsk.

I would feel the same if I saw two famous russians gushing over some profound American literature

i learnt a little Russian because my wife is from Kaliningrad, but i cannot read any book in Russian. i read them in German. i read most Russian classics but my favourites are from ilja ilf the golden calf, very good description of Sowjet time absurdities and obviously Dostojewski i started with very easy stuff like the gambler. have a good day

I don't know a lot about writing but I am learning. However, it sounds like he is one of the greatest riders of all time. You should be proud.

I had a slight problem with Peterson at 4:50 saying Alyosha 'wins'. I'm not sure either Ivan or Alyosha 'wins' in Brothers Karamazov (or Dimitri, for that matter). Maybe this is my personal interpretation. But I think that was part of the power of Dostoyevsky - he could hold in his head two such different views on life and present them both so strongly. My feeling is that Alyosha's more spiritual renewal and vision of Russia is very much informed by the case that Ivan lays out in 'Pro and Contra' and 'The Grand Inquisitor'. You can't have 'The Father Zosima' or 'The Speech at the Stone' without Ivan's preceding chapters. I think it says something about Peterson when says he thinks Alyosha 'wins'.

@@gfarrell80 I would agree with that take. Although it’s been a few years since I last read The Brothers K, I interpreted Peterson’s comment “Alyosha wins” as he was the only brother who remained faithful throughout the entire narrative. Ivan and Dmitri, I would argue, strayed from God’s grace throughout the novel. But Alyosha became “heroic” by remaining faithful to the life he chose. I don’t know if any of that makes sense… I’m in need of another go at the story.

Be prepared on a altered world view.

Same here

I read Crime and Punishment first then The Brothers Karamazov. They seem to go together that way.

Enjoy the ride!

@@iameternalsunshine I'm about a third the way through crime and punishment. Will the altered world view come on completion?

Reading it now ! I strongly recommend the Burgin & O'Connor translation for anyone interested

@@watercave4905 why should we go for that particular translation , if I may ask?

​@@preciousamaechi5887It is accurate to the original russian without losing the flavor of the language and storytelling in the process. It really is a joy to read Burgin & O'Connors translation but considering how good the book is you won't lose with any translation honestly

...and funny like hell!

At this point I'm pretture sure it's not a book.

You have a very nice taste, man 👌 I've read all of them also in the original language.

I think maybe we understand the story differently from what we can comprehend at that age. I’ll read crime and punishment again, I also read it in 4 days I think, over the Christmas break a few years ago.

What translation did you read?

Agree, Master & Margarita is one of my favourites also.

Yeah, the child-like optimism and childish naivety was a great differentiation.

interesting. this book reinforced my agnosticism. it's my favorite book of all time, and unfortunately the world is full of grand inquisitors, NOT alyosha's

@@freestylingwhistler “Grand Inquisitors”. Brilliant description.

Then you are a fool.

I personally form my beliefs based off facts not feelings but to each their own

God isn't real. Just thought you should hear that.

Personally, I see Nietzsche is more accurately a character from Ivan Turgenev. In his younger days, he was probably very similar to Bazarov from Fathers and Sons.

Definitely Ivan

I'll give Demons a read next, thanks for the tip🧐

I’ll read demons as well, would you recommend notes from underground ? From what I understand both are short novels and I’d like to read them both soon.

​@@MymleTry Dream of a Ridiculous Man and Notes From the Underground.

What’s your favorite Kazantzakis book? Greek passion for me but I’ve only read three so far

yeah absorb that dirt...

My favorite book too!

🔥🔥🔥

Yes. Master and Margerita is also inspiring than Dostoevskis books.

How interesting. I read german translation, there it says „Wie schön ist das Leben, wenn man etwas Gutes und Gerechtes tut!“ roughly „How beautiful life is, if you do something good and just“ A slight but interesting difference in my opinion. Nevertheless I totally agree with your commentary

@@tobithiele2673 I didn't quote it thoroughly, because I didn't have the book anymore. I think, it was the same sentence in the Swedish version. :-)

Nietzsche is a mood. Like Dostoesvky's Ivan and Melville's Ahab, and most importantly like Jesus on the cross, Nietzsche tried to be the only thing true and admirable in the world, Nietzsche tried to be an atheist, not acting like GOd does not exist, because Nietzsche knew God exists, but in facing God, in rejecting God. But all three fail, utterly and completely and so does the man on the cross, in his final moment crying out to God.

That is a most uncanny parallelism to be sure.

​​@@cainandabel7059The cry of Christ on the cross was not one of failure but of victory. The Cross is the restoration of human nature to its primeval glory. When Christ cried out "why have you forsaken me", it was not His abandonment by the Father (that would be impossible) but He was showing that He was truly man and not just in appearance and also representing us, Adam the fallen man, in His own Person in His prayer to God. He also did this to show them unto His last breath that He honors His Father and is no adversary to God.

@@ElonMuskrat-my8jy the cross is his death, his defeat, in his last moment, the moment to which all moments of life build up to and have to prove themselves, he failed, God himself could not bear his own silence. the darkest hour of history, the end of the world. his resurrection is his and our victory but it is not complete until we ourselves be born again

@@cainandabel7059 Christ is risen from the dead trampling down death by death and upon those in the tombs bestowing life. There is no glorious Resurrection without the Cross. Demons fear the Cross. Through the Cross is eternal life with the Body and Blood of Christ. It's blasphemy to say Christ was defeated. He went to His Passion voluntarily. It was an ambush to destroy the powers of sin, hell, death and the devil.