Budget KING! Shimano Deore Brakes, M6100 vs M6000 and XT M8100 - 12 speed Groupsets

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The new #Shimano #Deore M6100 #Brakes next to the old M6000 and the 12s XT M8100. Design, compatibility, weight, it's all in here. Still the budget KING - best budget friendly serious brakes you can buy.
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@PetrPolach 2 года назад

I bought this levers and replaced my 401 levers on basic budget 4 calipers MT420 brakes. Such a cheap upgrade and what a big difference! They works GREAT!! And I learned how to bleed my brakes also as a bonus. Those have a servowave mechanism, which makes them more bity (sensitive to module) but I am having same brake power with much less energy given from my fingers = less deathgrip! Great video! Thank you.

@MichalSzul 2 года назад

For anyone who thinks upgrading to M8100 will reduce free stroke compered to M6100/M7100, it will not. The free stroke screw works but other way around. Free stroke of M6100/M7100 lever is the same as M8100 with screwed all the way in free stroke screw. So compared to M6100/M7100 free stroke could be make longer with M8100 screw, not shorter. I have tested this with the same caliper (m520). Also the M7100 lever with replaced screw(Y-8VC98070) from M8100 works exactly the same as M8100. If anyone is interested I have measured the free stroke at the end of the lever BL-M8100 + BR-M520: free stroke = 17,5 to 25mm BL-M7100 with free stroke screw from 8100 + BR-M520: free stroke = 17,5 to 25mm BL-M7100 + BR-M520: free stroke = 17,5mm BL-M6100 + BR-M520: free stroke = 17,5mm BL-M8100 + MT7 Pro caliper: free stroke = 9,5 to 13,5mm BL-M6100 + MT7 Pro caliper: free stroke = 9,5mm BL-M8100 + MT5 caliper: free stroke = 13 to 19,5mm BL-M8100 + MT5 caliper with MT7 pads: free stroke = 13 to 19,5mm Magura MT5 stock: free stroke: 29mm Cheers!

@MichalSzul 2 года назад

@@LoveMTB Love it! It is way more powerful and stiffer feel in lever. Similar to Formula brakes if I have to compare. Also the best part is short free stroke but because of that it is not for everyone as disc has to be perfectly straight and caliper perfectly aligned as there is almost no gap between disc and pads with free stroke screw all the way in. Also do not like magura bleeding as it is messy during removal of bleeding nipple and replacing it with screw. The most annoying part of the full shimano for me was huge free stroke which could be hacked by pushing out pistons but that procedure has to be repeated as pads wear out. I wonder if MT5 caliper would behave the same as MT7 but for the moment I do not have any to check and I am not going to buy it just for curiosity, at least for now ;)

Год назад

Dzięki Michał! Oszczędziłeś mi kupę kasy!

@MichalSzul Год назад

@ Proszę bardzo! Super że się przydała komuś jeszcze ta wiedza :) Swoją drogą zacisk Mt5 się czyms różni bo free stroke z klamką shimano wychodzi trochę dłuższy(13-19.5mm) niż mt7. Było to na tyle dziwne ze odpowietrzałem i ponownie mierzyłem z 5 razy ale zawsze wychodziło to samo. Nawet jak włożyłem klocki z mt7.

@caioo82 3 года назад

Hey brother, thanks for the great video! Found both M6000 and M6100 with a tiny price difference and was unsure of which one to pick. Will definitely go with the M6100!! Cheers from Brazil!

@unkle-user 3 года назад

Thanks a lot for your videos, halps a lot. Very detailed and informative.

@westfeuersongs 3 года назад

I mounted the new BL-6100 on my old BR-M447 Caliper. I am happy with Servo Wave now. Better brake power and pressure point as the same as SLX 7000. I changed the old 59 hose to the new 90 hose. Good upgrade for my old brake. Very cheap. But best performance. Brake pads are not the typical Shimano B01S. I uses Quaxar P20.10 Semi Metallic. Discs are SM RT64M. Have fun with your new DEORE M6100 brakes! And thanks for video. In Germany we haven't such a fine channel for bike parts reviews.

@westfeuersongs 3 года назад

@@LoveMTB yes, it is a good option with the complete brake. But I love to handcraftt on my Bikes. And the Quaxar pads are new installed;-)

@florez426 2 года назад

Great vid I have the XT and SLX great breaks. These are of the same thread and at the price point I don't see a better system out there. Thanks for the vid.

@Obiekb 3 года назад

Excellent info as usual, I’m a big fan of Deore brakes.

@Hawlkeye-e9p 3 года назад

Ya same here. Big rotors new resin pads and that was good enough for me.

@zdravo4 3 года назад

Same here I have M6000 brakes, SLX 180mm IceTech rotors and J03A pads. For my needs great combination.

@lukaslewandowski5756 3 года назад

U deserve much more subs 🙂

@rileygray195 3 года назад

I bought some deore 4 pot brakes a few days ago for my downhill bike, could not be happier with the price

@aarondonally8153 3 года назад

how much were they?

@MrBobswire 3 года назад

Thanks for providing the best detailed component reviews. I was undecided on which brakes to buy until I saw this video, I ended up purchasing the M6100, my bike came with entry level Tektro.

@jhorlinperez950 3 года назад

greetings sir, mine came with tecktro durega! i am thinking of deore m6100. Tell me, how are you doing with them?

@MrBobswire 3 года назад

@@jhorlinperez950 Love them, I have my Marin Alcatraz hardtail set up as a Continental Divide rig with frame bag and large seat bag extra water bottles and do lots of climbs and descends, the 6100's have been flawless. Nothing more to say about other than easy maintenance for bleeding.

@Hawlkeye-e9p 3 года назад

Im 6f2 220 lbs i love that on off feeling. Are there really any differences with these brakes? All i have ever noticed with diff models was stopping power. Ended up using 180mm and resin pads and that seem to be enough for me.

@italoflaviosilvamatos7212 3 года назад

Valeu muito obrigado por este belo vídeo, bem explicativo. Um bacana review!

@william_2610 3 года назад

My M6000 were great for 6 months or so then I started getting trouble with sticky caliper pistons (though they were a bit dodgy from the start). Something went wrong with the rear lever master cylinder too unfortunately. Shame because performance wise they were brilliant and great value for money. Went for the M7100 and they've been perfect so far. Hoping they last longer.

@tenkonk 3 года назад

i guess its piston lever need to replace, get the new parts.

@wallyedmonds8199 3 года назад

And love all your vids 👍🏻

@Qnexus7 3 года назад

What 11 speed cassette/derailleur/shifter system would you recommend ? Currently mine mounts a simple 9 speed system, with every component being some low old version of Deore (M591, SL M511). Thanks man. This channel is really something! Keep it up. P.S. Btw medium/long derailleur? What is essentially the difference? I can't find any videos on the matter. Thx

@reptarthetrx2408 3 года назад

Honestly the new Deore stuff is good enough. To save weight the only two parts I'd swap out is the crank and the cassette for the SLX group which would save about 300 grams.

@lwlsports1823 3 года назад

Do the M6100 brakes fit a 3x7? Trying to figure out if they would fit my Fuji Nevada 27.5er

@slavnyan1152 Год назад

Amazing video. I just wonder. Can you get away with just putting your sealed hose end into the brake lever assembly without and hose shortening? Will the seal somehow pop, or you need to break it open manually

@boybakalismyname4515 3 года назад

thank you!

@vampireduck42 3 года назад

Hey man, i have the deore m6100 brakes. Is it compatible with metal pads? It says in their website under "remarks" that it is only compatible with resin pads

@BMH1965 2 года назад

@00:50 - 'BL' does not stand for 'brake lever', it stands for 'brake left' (hence the other side meaning 'brake right'). But, confusingly, it does mean 'brake lever' in the tick mark box!

@PEJUANGIMPIAN9 3 года назад

Nice review man, shimano deore is quite good part, new friend here

@patas1818 3 года назад

Can you buy the xt lever with reach adjustment and install it on the deore brake ?

@ThunderStruckMTB 2 года назад

Sup! Hey MTBR had a review of the 6100 2 piston brakes and they gave them a 10/10 and said they are shimano's best brake regardless of price. I'm still having inconsistent lever feel (WBP) with my 8100 2 piston XTs. Have you any opinion on the lever consistency/feel of the 6100s compared to either 8100 or 8000s? Night and day or have you not experienced the wandering bite point with 8100s? Thanks!!

@Maliq993 3 года назад

Hey, What do you think about br m6100 vs br m7000? Deore comes with new i spec EV, no ceramic pistons and I would opt for version with ice pads. Slx br m7000 is around 60 dollars more and they come with ceramic pistons, there is also tool free reach adjustment. I would want something that can work as long as it can with regular maintenance. Are this ceramic pistons better in terms of longevity, I've seen people break them by not being careful during maintenance. Since I intend to use these brakes for at least 2-3 years , are ceramic pistons going to last that long? What do you think? Thanks

@MahendraKumar-jb2hy 3 года назад

What is your opinion on Tektro gemini sl brakes if compared with m6100.

@slapsoiladventures6246 3 года назад

I currently have a weak non series shimano brakes with 180mm rotors and 2.5 tires (its hard to lock the wheel). I want to upgrade it with more powerful brakes. Is the m6100 good for my all mountain set up? Any other recommendations?

@basengelblik5199 Год назад

Great review. Small overview. All brake handles are serviceable these days. All have the same braking power. XT 8100 lever position knob + freestroke adjust with philips head (replace screw with inner allen head) SLX 7100 lever position knob + freestroke adjust with special security bit (replace screw with inner allen head) Deore 6100 lever position allan key, no freestroke adjust XTR xc version = Deore 6100 in spec. My advise: Deore for XC More breaking power: Deore 4 piston I have all different version on xc / trail bikes and notice no difference in braking performance. Note: My brakes do not get very hot. I bought the XT because I never had XT, but I have to truly conclude that it adds no value, well ok I do feel cool that my bike has XT 😉

@MrChadLedford 3 года назад

Great videos

@Hawlkeye-e9p 3 года назад

Just pulled the trigger on a commecal clash xl frame. 170 180 build 27.5

@Gimodelo 3 года назад

hy sir.. i have a deore m6120 4 pot.. and i plan change brakepad icetech.. please give me recomend, i must change pad which serial pad.? thank you

@akaraikiriakatsuki3157 2 года назад

Pads with fins. Is it compatible with mt200? I don't really want to change the brakes unless it's starting to break

@davidlim2379 2 года назад

I have a 55lb eMTB with fitted with Shimano BR-MT420, 4 piston, Metallic Pads, 203mm disc front and rear. Can I change the brake levers to M6100 and will there be any significant difference or benefit?

@warthogstudios9784 3 года назад

These 12 speed brakes work well with the new Shimano Mineral oil filled rear derailleur 180mm cassette pokey tool 17.5 frame fork.. thing..

@cyclingtwovlogger 3 года назад

SLX does have Free Stroke adjustment, all you need to unscrew the not adjustment bolt from SLX and replace it with the bolt from XT leveler.

@mtbboy1993 3 года назад

@@LoveMTB cus the free stroke adjust the bite point, the bite point is needed for short reach, for smaller hands, at least that's how it should work. Sram calls it bite point, some call it modulation, it controls how early the brake actuates. at least that's what video on the subject tells, shows me.

@excaliburgz1996 3 года назад

thanks much folks!

@aydossarif-bambaydos2082 Год назад

Hye, can i pair this deore's calipers with sti 105 shifter?

@ericrollins4607 2 года назад

I have MT200/201 brakes that shipped with my Occam H30 (resin). Would the 6100 2-piston levers/calipers be a significant upgrade when using sintered pads? I'm a light rider, the MT200 aren't terrible but I'd be worried using them on longer decents.

@Impenneteri 2 года назад

I used MT200 brakes before. Resin pads during prolonged braking on long descents will cause a brake fade. I've experienced it before and boy I thought that was it for me. Good thing I saw a huge pile of sand (road construction) just outside the curve in the road and I press the brake real hard while the sand naturally force my bike to stop moving. Switched to M6100 with J04C metal pads and MT800 rotor, I'm now more confident that my brake won't fade in long descents. The instant bite of sintered pads also gives you that confidence as compared to a modulated braking power of resin pads. Sintered/metal pads gets noisy though when it gets wet

@MrVlad82 3 года назад

basically they are similar to XT but without so many settings?

@g.fortin3228 3 года назад

I have the old 615's on my fatbike, got rid of the ugly silver covers and got very inexpensively the black covers from ebay and they look fine, work fine, trouble free. Stop well with metal pads and rt66 rotors. This must be an evolve of those ! Still great stuff for the money.

@g.fortin3228 3 года назад

@@LoveMTB I don't even notice the on-off or any lack of modulation on the Fatboy. So much tire on the ground :- )

@adamlukas3967 3 года назад

Good as always, thanks. Could you please make a video about shimano brake pads. The codes are a bit difficult to learn an remembere.

@Justin-ny6un 3 года назад

I found this online whilst looking at compatibility makes it a bit easier to understand the naming: Maybe someone will find this helpful - Quick Shimano Brake pads code guide J04C First letter will stand for pad shape type (obviously you will need to check for specific pad letter to match your caliper). Basically most popular for nowadays will be: G, F, J (Deore-XTR) - narrow pad shape B (Acera-Altus) - wide pad shape (you can not use these with narrow/2piece rotors) D, H (Saint-Zee) - narrow pad shape K, L (for Road 140mm rotors) - narrow pad shape A, E, M (older calipers) - vary from model Two numbers will define pad compound 01-02 - Resin (except D02S which is Metallic, maybe some other older marking as well like E01S) 03-04 - Metallic 05-08 - vary from model (older calipers) Last letter will define backplate material A - Aluminum C - Combined (Aluminum fins, Steel pad backplate) S - Steel Ti - Titanium Pads with fin versions (Ice Tech) differs in fin displacement 1st version F 2nd version H, J, L (different fin orientation and inside/outside fins)

@Justin-ny6un 3 года назад

LoveMTB No problem. Makes it’s a lot easier to understand, I weren’t sure if I could run the J04c on the M6100 prior to your video. So by using that guide also I know that any G or J pads will fit, and so D or N for the 4 pots

@tomacheteful Год назад

Your content provides so much valuable information and I have relied on your videos throughout my upgrade journey. What size and make rotors do you recommend for m6100 brake set? Thank you so much!

@tomacheteful Год назад

@@LoveMTB I have a hardtail with numerous upgrades. I ride mostly fast flowy stuff with some rocks and roots.

@tomacheteful Год назад

Can I use any 6 bolt shimano rotor?

@mtbboy1993 3 года назад

Much better clamp, this clamp actually makes sense.

@goshobul 2 года назад

I sure hope 6100 will have enough power combined with a front 203 slx and metal pads for me, I'm 100kg. The 315's I have have trouble stopping me

@ekly6178 2 года назад

Any difference in power between the xt and m6100?

@andrewosborn4052 Год назад

I have just bought a bike it says there bl- m6100 but don't say deore on them anywhere HELP are they the real deal?

@xjmarco 3 года назад

New subscriber here!

@Btothewill 3 года назад

I have m365, how do these compare?

@JeffWagen 2 года назад

How is the modulation compared to the *000 series? I've read somewhere that Shimano reduced around 50% of the servo wave action, thus improving modulation, can you confirm it? Thanks!

@JeffWagen 2 года назад

@@LoveMTB Many thanks, I'm looking for a new set of brakes and those are the best for the buck.

@Perception_ 3 года назад

I wonder if you can just swap out(or order as a spare) the reach adjust thumb screw from SLX/XT etc and change it with this allen headbolt. Yes, I'm talking about as a hack.

@Perception_ 3 года назад

@@LoveMTB Crap, yeah I checked the parts diagram at shimano's website, and you're right. As it's even hard to just order parts these days even when you got the part number, I'll just bite the bullet this time. Wouldn't be worth the hassle nor the price, so it would be better to simply purchase a complete M7100 brake kit instead of the M6100 I will be ordering. Would be nice with on the fly reach adjust, but hey ho....

@gerardoricardolopez2958 3 года назад

Hi, thanks for your videos. If you had to choose between the deore M6100 and the slx M7000 brakes, which one would you choose? Thanks!

@basengelblik5199 Год назад

Considering the new 6000 are serviceable there is little value investing in anything more.

@denzdarryla.dacones3203 3 года назад

i have old deore brakes, can i replace only levers and buy 2020 model levers and use may old cable hose and caliper? is it possible? thank you❤️

@denzdarryla.dacones3203 3 года назад

im using deore brakes m615 and i want to change its levers to deore 2020 model

@TonyDL Год назад

Hi and thanks for your excellent videos! I've learned so much!! Question on the olive and insert... you say it is both included inside the lever AND as extra parts in the bag. Are you SURE it's it is pre-installed in the lever? If so, then you'd have to first remove them from the lever and mount them on your newly cut hose prior to re-inserting the hose to the lever. Is that right? Thank you!

@TonyDL Год назад

@@LoveMTB Appreciate the quick reply! I had already watched that one. At the 10:30 mark you insert the hose into the lever, but I didn't ever see you remove the olive and insert that may have already been in the handle. Thoughts?

@TonyDL Год назад

@@LoveMTB Well I scoured the descriptions of both this video and the one you referred and did not find any info on this. My gut tells me the olive/insert included in the package is the only one (not spare parts) and the lever is just pre-filled with oil, but no olive/insert. I surely respect your experience and knowledge here, but it's just not clear from what I've seen; correct me if I'm wrong. I did see that the hose was inserted at least an inch into the lever, so I will watch for that when I do my upgrade to make sure there's no other olive/insert in the lever housing blocking full insertion. I will be replacing my stock BL-M4100 levers with these BL-M6100's. Thank you!

@XavierBetoN 2 года назад

I wish Deore had ceramic pistons, I have SLX and I am very unhappy with banjo connectors. Will share my further experiences in the other post in a week or so. Great videos you're doing btw! Cheers!

@XavierBetoN 2 года назад

@@LoveMTB I could use my existing cable but the new 90SB connector costs more than the XT lever I bought, or as much as the SLX caliper. which is bullshit. I would've liked it if it was in reasonable price but it's just f*king cnc'ed aluminum joint. I really hated it.

@XavierBetoN 2 года назад

Besides, Banjo connector for M7100 is too close to the aerodisc of my front rim, it is rubbing at one point when it rotates. Not a big deal, it's just a quiet easy rub but would've preferred straight connector or M7000, which has connector at the outer side of the brake.

@XavierBetoN 2 года назад

It also doesn't feel as stiff as the direct mount. An unnecessary part i can say (as an engineer)

@TOPdanceification 3 года назад

Hello, whats your opinion on M6100 vs M7100 ? M7100 cost about 20€ more... are they worth it? what is better? materials? features? longer lifetime? thx

@Jim79234 3 года назад

Thanks for the vid! Also from Canada. Riding in Ontario. I am about 160 lbs and riding a down country bike. Do you think the 6100 brakes are good enough with 180 rotors front and rear? Cheers

@Jim79234 3 года назад

@@LoveMTB thanks for the quick reply! Maybe one day I’ll get to meet you 😜

@boracay12 3 года назад

just curious ,how many bikes does one guy need to have ?

@totalchaos80 2 года назад

Just partially installed these last night. For some reason my stock rotor (Tektro 180mm) is hitting against the new caliper. Direct mount on the rear of my bike is 180mm. Tried a 160mm rotor for the heck of it, and it's to small. I'm scratching my head at the moment. Is there any reason I'd have to switch to a Shimano 180mm rotor, to make this work? I'm not seeing the logic with this.

@totalchaos80 2 года назад

@@LoveMTB My lighting was bad in my garage, i think the contact was from the side of the rotor, not the top of the rotor. I'll have to mess around with it. Thought maybe the rotor was bent, but dont think thats it, as it wasnt rubbing with the Tektro Caliper. Thanks

@riffmeisterkl 3 года назад

Also has the classic Japanese pictograms. ;)

@latuch91ify 3 года назад

Looking forward for a review of M6120. What is strange is that finned pads(ice tech pads) are not listed on the M6120's box, which means that 4pot version is not compatible with those. What do you think of that? Not sure if this is something that I should really worry about - thinking about heat dissipation during descending.

@jeffngo79 3 года назад

So what is the price point starting what from 160 Arnold for what

@deoclecio5 3 года назад

Hey man, Can i use G02A/G02S pads in this brake? Aluminum is much better than metal structure? Regards,

@giusipiecha9096 3 года назад

id say it depends on what you ride, aluminum ones transfer the heat to the pistons and oil more, but keep your disk cooler.

@anthonysi8623 3 года назад

Hi. I'm currently looking for replacement brakes and I'm confused why it has "12 speed" on it. Will this not work on 11 speed? I don't see a connection but just wanna make sure I don't run into any compatibility problems

@anthonysi8623 3 года назад

@@LoveMTB Good to know. Thank you!

@lukasek1234 3 года назад

Hry man, great video.. i have a question. I had a 2by10 deore m6000 schifters, i don't know if this new brakes Will fit when yes i Will buy this new great looking 6100 i not i Will be a little upset. THX for a message.

@lukasek1234 3 года назад

@@LoveMTB I think... I saw a video right Now And He had new 4100 brakes with a deore m6000 schifter, it have a view on gears up, it don't fit at All.... I go tu buy 6000..

@jiou876 2 года назад

Is it worth to get a deore rather than a slx breaks? price is too far o both breaks.

@MaplePanda04 3 года назад

What about these vs the non-series MT500 line of brakes? I’ve heard great reviews of the MT520 4 piston brakes.

@sprousaTM 3 года назад

The mt520 caliper and 2 finger mt501 brake lever combination is by far the best deal in the Shimano lineup.. It is cheap and has the same brake power as higher 4 piston brakes like the xt... I use a slx m7120 brake set front and rear on a self built trail fully and the mt520 on my hardtail.. I cannot notice any difference between both of them if paired with the same rotors. There are a lot of ppl who sell their unused mt520 or 420 brakesets of their newly bought bike to replace them by xt or even xtr. I bought an unused mt520 set for 85 bucks, which is hilarious. The mt420 is supposed to be 10% weaker than the mt520. The biggest difference is the huge brake lever, but you can easily match a mt420 or 520 caliper with slx or xt levers, which I highly recommend. Same goes for the drive train. Go for slx cassette, slx derailleur but xt shifter and you get the same performance as xt with slightly more weight but with the xt shifter the double up shift, which slx and deore can't do.

@HOllyBOni 3 года назад

Do you need I-spec EV compatibility? Yes= Deore M6100 or M6120. No= MT500 or MT520.

@sprousaTM 3 года назад

@@HOllyBOni Basically this! And concerning I-Spec EV. I use it with the 7120 Brakeset left and right. Right I switch to a XT Shifter and left the Mt500 Dropper Level. Dropper lever works awesome regarding positioning. The XT Shifter though works but thats about it. The positioning of the shifter does not work as good as with the normal clamp. It is either in the way of my thumb or too far back. If you put it all the way to the left and forward, I can easily reach every lever but the thumb touches it when not shifting.. Too far back and I can not push the lever that is farther back behind, only pull it... Cockpit though looks really clean.

@updateinfo856 3 года назад

M6120 to ice tech is it work..?

@HeadBassVTEC 8 дней назад

thanks for the comparison, was looking for some cheap brake upgrade and just ordered the M6000 complete brake sets front & rear for 80 euro the M6100 were 140 and are not that much better imo so the older M6000 looked like a better deal to me and still can get the ceramic icetech pads for better modulation if needed they will probably be a big upgrade on my old but not much used 2008 Haibike Scream RC which I started riding on again and has Magura Julie that are impossible to bleed it's an 100/100mm XC so these should be good enough for me, even the Magura Julie were ok for me but I started learning how to service my bike and don't like the super old Maguras poor servicability

@LoveMTB 8 дней назад

@@HeadBassVTEC you got a good set of brakes for a great price!

@tomacheteful Год назад

Back again lol. I am having trouble figuring out what shifter I can use with my 11 speed XT derailleur and 6100 brakes to use i spec EV. I currently have the m8000 shifter which is working out terrible lol. Help!

@tomacheteful Год назад

@@LoveMTB 😭😭😭 cannot get a good position for brake lever and proper shifting

@tomacheteful Год назад

@@LoveMTB i have the xt 11 speed shifter with display my bad.. not derailleur lol

@jackpizziferro4562 3 года назад

These are perfect for my Jones! Do you know what size rotor I would need? Do I need a mount? Keep up the great work!

@polishguywithhardtospellna8227 2 года назад

I probably watched this min 10 times already on different occasions

@radiklized 2 года назад

Hi, dude! I'm overthinking about getting the MT420 or the M6100. Which one do you think is better in terms of power. Cheers!!!

@radiklized 2 года назад

@@LoveMTB I finally went for the M6100. You helped me a lot. Really appreciated your comments and reviews. Thanks bro. Cheers!

@sebastianjost 3 года назад

I find the freestroke on my deore M6000 brakes is relatively long. Is this shorter on the new M6100 brakes?

@Justin-ny6un 3 года назад

I would say they feel the same as my XT M8100 on lever pull with the free stroke screw all the way in

@Justin-ny6un 3 года назад

LoveMTB im not sure, I like the tool less reach, dimpled levers, and higher quality materials. You will probably be a better judge though, I don’t have much experience I only bought the bikes in April after lockdown started in the UK

@zdravo4 3 года назад

Thank you for this good and quality videos as always. I have M6000 brakes, SLX 180mm IceTech rotors and J03A pads. For my needs great combination. BTW I turned my whole bike in M6000 Crankset 3x10, Cassette 10-42, rear mech M6000 SGS, both shifters M6000, brakes M6000, hubs M6000. Beside that I out tubeless tires and now awaiting new fork to come, it’s RockShox Reba, can’t wait 😃

@MoiPloy 3 года назад

same here mate my merida bignine comes with deore m615 groupset and its a good groupset for its price but its kinda outdated so i bought the m6000 groupset and they are superb... 2x10 GS mech with 11- 46 Sunrace cassette

@zdravo4 3 года назад

LoveMTB well some of the bikers told me that 11s chains are pretry weak and tend to break, so I left it on 10s. Other reason is that I got M6000 10s shifters with the bike so I kept it. (less cost).

@DiegoRodriguezAW11 3 года назад

@@LoveMTB wise advice there on the m5100 11-51t cassette. Btw, how does ir compare with the sunrace 11s cassettes?

@josipkasalo70 3 года назад

I got mehanical brakes on my Specialized rockhopper 27.5 and i need to change asap, where do i buy these but cheaper, they are soo expensive, I live in croatia so...you know why its expensive to me..

@benmillns8976 3 года назад

There's some sellers on eBay selling these as OEM without packaging but brand new, around £80.00.

@vitorgodoy8619 3 года назад

Please help! Struggling between Deore M6120 and SLX 7100 Similar price, but one is simpler w/ 4 piston, and other better brakes w/ 2 piston Is the M6120 braking power much bigger? which is the best bang for the buck? Awesome channel btw! Thanks :)

@vitorgodoy8619 3 года назад

@@LoveMTB Thanks for replying! I'm riding mostly XC and All Mountain (not crazy fast or enormous jumps) and 80kg. Problem is current bike is a Trek Fuel EX with regular Deore brakes, and I don't feel confident at all! Brakes are simply weak, already changed oil and pads, but still feels like it won't stop.

@Perception_ 2 года назад

I'm trying to figure out if these newer type I-Spec clamps + levers will be compatible with older shifters, but that is not shown on the diagram I found from Shimano. I got some older SL-M660 Rapidfire shifters that I need to know will work with an M6100 brake setup with those clamps. If it doesn't work, this whole thing will quickly become a lot more expensive because then I might as well change complete drivetrain + crankset too, and then I might as well just change the whole bike instead. Anyhow, does anyone know if it will work since my shifters have their own separate clamp. It can be removed, but I still need to know if the shifter then can be attached to the newer I-Spec clamps. I have no idea if the master cylinder of the newer brakes will interfere with the old shifter clamp or the shifter itself, so... EDIT: After a bit of searching I found out that M670 is the first generation of the 4 versions of I-Spec(A, B, II and EV), which is when 10 speed was introduced. I got a 9 speed setup, so of course no I-Spec. Still, I would like to know if it still is possible either directly or via a hack or something. Since I need to do a complete brake setup swap on this bike I would like to get something I know I can service throughout its lifespan. I've had too many unwanted issues already with this 9-speed bullshit that the industry is phasing out so an upgrade makes little sense or often times even impossible. It's pretty sad that just because my brakes are shot, that I might need to order new shifters as well, and then I need to upgrade my full drivetrain to 10 speed, even full crank setup etc. Just because of the brakes... I'll be damned.

@Perception_ 2 года назад

@@LoveMTB They are just old and worn out Avid Juicy 5 from 2013 that have done their job and then some. I ride everyday all year around(commuter bike) so they have gotten some miles to say the least. My last fix was new pistons and bushings which lasted about 9 months, but now they have just given up. One piston is just super slow and cannot be manipulated to anything acceptable, and well there's other things as well. I just don't want to touch them anymore and consider the whole setup as junk now. Would be nice to jump over to some Shimano brakes, but as I need something that'll work with my shifters, I might be stuck with som Avid of sorts once more. I just wish I could get a proper upgrade once I had to upgrade it anyhow, but we'll see once I find some brakes with clamps that'll do the job.

@Perception_ 2 года назад

@@LoveMTB Here is the parts diagram for my Shimano SLX SL-M660 shifters imgur.com/DLcmVhc - As you see, and as I stated above, they have their separate clamp. My main concern is with the newer M6100, M7100 etc brakes that have 2 engagement points to the handlebar, versus the M6000, M7000 etc. that only have one engangement point which is the previous I-Spec clamp. That may cause there to be an issue with the distance between the lever and the shifter. The other thing is that the clamp itself is mounted further in on the master cylinder, which then will push the lever further out towards the edge of the handlebar, if both should be mounted next to a shifter clamp. If my shifter clamp somehow can fit between the clamp of the master cylinder and the 2nd engagement point, that might work, but this is all just theories so far. This is why I have been thinking that getting my hands on a set of M6000 or M7000 might be something that would work better, but I still would like the newest option if it will work. EDIT: If you pause the video at 4:25 you actually see that your silver shifter clamp looks like the one I got on my bike, so if that works with M6000/M7000 brakes then it should be fine with my shifters as well.

@Perception_ 2 года назад

I have now checked physically and it actually works with the newest gen brakes(M6100/M7100/M8100). My shifter clamp needs to be on the outside(closest to the handlebar end) of the brake clamp and it is actually more than enough room. I was rather skeptical when I looked at photographs, because the clamps look so much beefier than they actually are in real life. I had to remove the shifter indicators, but that was super easy and Shimano had even mounted spare block off plates on the inside so the back of the shifters aren't open to the elements. Only one of my local shops had the newer gen brakes in stock, or else I would be boned to say the least. Easier explanation: The clamps need to be mounted next to each other so that the shifter will go under the brake clamp, and the brake will go over the shifter clamp. This is the opposite of the norm, which is why I had to get a physical confirmation before I was willing to order anything. EDIT: And now I even found confirmation from Shimano themself that it should work as well. This just gets better and better imgur.com/a/POHvPnY

@francislacdao1299 Год назад

Hello brother can u help me.. i have m6000 brake set.. i dont what is the problem.. loose compression and the ceramic brake caliper is not worker and i bleed ng brake for 2x.. can u send mo a brake set hhhhha

@luxinterna3370 Год назад

I use those brakes with my 10 speed cassette... works fine..

@floppy1623 3 года назад

Is better sram sx or Shimano deore m6100

@micharosinski4812 3 года назад

What about older M675 SLX model? Some riders say that it's better than M7000 brakes.

@micharosinski4812 3 года назад

@@LoveMTB Better means more effective.

@SpicyMushroom469 Год назад

2:54 you said the olive and insert is in there already, surely you mean just the olive?

@LoveMTB Год назад

You're correct, the olive is in the lever, insert in the bag. Install is here - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-dbmy_7LOySk.html

@daveeastcott9323 3 года назад

"12 speed brakes" 😂🤣😂 surprisingly it doesn't say that on the box on account of it being impossible/non-existent.

@sebsoud 3 года назад

I'm also wondering wtf is this :-D

@GeorgeFrideric71 2 года назад

It's metonymy, a fairly common trope of language which works via contiguity rather than comparison (as is the case with metaphor). One doesn't read Dickens either, but one understands what the phrase means.

@adrielsoriano2972 2 года назад

Hi sir. Can I use this kind of brakes in my trek fx 4 sports hybrid bike?

@adrielsoriano2972 2 года назад

@@LoveMTB thank you sir

@adrielsoriano2972 2 года назад

@@LoveMTB Sir do you mind telling me where can i buy this kind of brake set with fins?

@aldwinpaulalaurin3900 3 года назад

Hi mate i buy this deore m6100 levers and about to replace the magura brake levers the magura levers are suck they are so spongy and and really hard to predict when braking the modulation is okay but i don't really like the lever feel i some people mixing shimani levers with magura caliper hope it works for me new subscriber here from the Philippines:)

@aldwinpaulalaurin3900 3 года назад

I will tell you right away how it performs when i install it

@Galahad0212 2 года назад

How good is the heat disipation on these? Have you notice any brake fading downhill?

@Galahad0212 2 года назад

@@LoveMTB - Continuous 45 min descents, steeps around 20%, technicals. I don't race when going down, since I do mostly XC and Trail. Current bike has SM-RT10. B03S pads and I'm around 67kg

@Galahad0212 2 года назад

@@LoveMTB I appreciate your response

@jhordanmaniego4381 3 года назад

Can i use cooling fins on m6100? Im using rt76 rotor

@jhordanmaniego4381 3 года назад

@@LoveMTB thanks man appreciate

@christianparinal6120 3 года назад

I use the m6100 brakes and they're pretty reliable.

@deoclecio5 3 года назад

Hey man, Can i use G02A/G02S pads in this brake? Aluminum is much better than metal structure? Regards,

@prs26 4 месяца назад

What has brakes to do with 10/12 speed??

@LoveMTB 4 месяца назад

They were launched with those drivetrains? It’s the Shimano way, brake such and such was launched with this or that drivetrain😉

@lorenadelosreyes6537 3 года назад

Its nice the shimsno deore m6100 and how can i order that product and how much.thanks

@lorenadelosreyes6537 3 года назад

@@LoveMTB helo how can i order shimano product tnx

@OneCosmic749 3 года назад

Aren't BL-MT501 + BR-MT520 just better? 4 piston calipers instead of two and lever seems to be the same as yours just without the deore marking

@Justin-ny6un 3 года назад

There is the M6120 too which is the 4 piston version, probably £/$10-20 difference for the newer ones. Also you get the new lever design with the brace and I-Spec EV

@michiganstate149 3 года назад

MT520s are basically a 4 piston version of these. Very powerful. Comparable to the power on my XT four pistons but with a much lower price. You don't get topless reach adjust, dimpled levers, pad contact adjustment or a screw to retain the pads, but performance wise, they are great.

@vednikam6745 3 года назад

Can I change marlin 6 drivetrain into 3×9 drivetrain .?

@vednikam6745 3 года назад

@@LoveMTB thanks 🙏🏻🇮🇳

@douglasshinzato6070 2 года назад

Is there too much difference in braking power between the Deore M6100 and XT M8100?

@douglasshinzato6070 2 года назад

@@LoveMTB Thanks! Cheers from Brazil!

@fivecasa 29 дней назад

Group set

@LVCMTB 3 года назад

shimano deore is quite good part

@jonienglish3231 3 года назад

My Magura MT2 Front - 225 Grams Rear - 240 Grams Includes calipers and Hoses , Lever is Plastic , Not Alloy. i also have the Chrome XT , Br-M615 ( Very Good ) , also Magura MTS, Alloy Lever .and SLX older style same interchange with Chrome XT

@jonienglish3231 3 года назад

@@LoveMTB MAGURA - Not Bad , Amazing as Shimano !!! in GERMANY - Dudes do Conversion : SHAGURA - - Shimano Lever / Magura Caliper the MT2 with the Plastic LEVER : Little FLEXY , i Figure on the Higher End MT8 with Carbon Lever will fix that Problem .or use Shimano Lever . i only paid $ 140 CAD for the MT2 shipped from China .I like for the Fact uses Mineral OIL . on my Chrome XT using Pentosin Green OIL

@jonienglish3231 3 года назад

@@LoveMTB ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-UAVT-n7IPQY.html

@jonienglish3231 3 года назад

@@LoveMTB I guese Some Dudes want to be Different ? Go with Water instead of Mineral Oil - Brake Force One H2O- ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fQVAIM9KS8w.html

@mirekpac4856 9 месяцев назад

There is one more important difference between BL-M6100 and BL-M8100. XT brake levers are made from thinner metal than these on regular Deore. Something like 1.5 mm vs 2 mm. It's significantly more probable you'll bend or brake those on XT.

@LoveMTB 9 месяцев назад

Unfortunately they do bend and break also😊

@dantindley5181 2 года назад

You know we've gone far to get 12 speed brakes

@cocobike8323 3 года назад

M6100 using bh-90?

@mikelo303 Год назад

Price difference is 50 bucks between m6100 and m8100 so what is the purpose?

@mikelo303 Год назад

@@LoveMTB Yeah. I was buying m6100 yesterday (after watching your video), and today I checked form curiosity same order on XT and it is like 50+ bucks more. So I canceled my order and changed it to XT. I was surprised myself. SLX has no place on the market right now. Full XT brakes set is 200 bucks now in Poland (no rotors). Deore was 148 bucks.