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Building an Efficient 5-inch Drone for Long Flights 🛠️ 

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@AlbertKimTV
@AlbertKimTV 3 года назад
🛠️ Parts in this build... Papilio Frame - bit.ly/38tlNsA iFlight SucceX-A AIO FC - bit.ly/3f0UDen | bit.ly/39uFrVR Diatone 2204 motors - bit.ly/30Ip0lC Caddx Vista FPV System - bit.ly/2QKaUM5 | bit.ly/2QJsShw Gemfan Floppy Proppys - bit.ly/36DGCD3 | bit.ly/30GQ2dd Auline 2000mah 4S Li-Ion Battery - bit.ly/30Jgrqz 🙏 Please support with a 👍 and don’t forget to hit the 🔔 thanks! 👉 Old gear for sale here - bit.ly/AlbertGearFS 💲 Get the latest exclusive coupon codes (updated often) bit.ly/34SYiGn
@jayqfpv6835
@jayqfpv6835 3 года назад
Very interesting.. Great That you are experementing with 5 inch light cruisers
@AlbertKimTV
@AlbertKimTV 3 года назад
Thanks! 👍
@DrMacca
@DrMacca 3 года назад
Wow, that is one LIGHT 5 inch build! Great video, Albert! Keep up the great work and stay safe! 👍👍
@AlbertKimTV
@AlbertKimTV 3 года назад
Thanks 👍
@FancyP24
@FancyP24 3 года назад
I made my own 3000mah 4s li-ions, pretty easy to follow Oscar Liang's guide. I also have that 2000mah Auline li-ion and the extra 1000mah definitely helps, flying my flywoo explorer lr. Pretty cool 5inch build though!
@fpvision_net
@fpvision_net 3 года назад
I'm really impressed with the hd quad I just build, I can cruise around for about 8 and a half minutes on a 6s 1300 lipo on 1950kv motors and it flies great asweal !
@pksteffen
@pksteffen 3 года назад
Can’t wait for the FPVCYCLE / Ledrone collab frame build. Very cool.
@jlarson42
@jlarson42 3 года назад
Great overview of this build. I've been using the floppy gemfans. They worked well doing basic freestyle. They did not survive crashing into a tree, lost half my blades. It didn't get stuck up there which is good. I think the Dal folders have a better hub design, I'll try them next. Happy flying Albert 🤓
@adinwalls
@adinwalls 2 года назад
This is a great light weight build idea.
@AlbertKimTV
@AlbertKimTV 2 года назад
😁
@Lifewaytravel
@Lifewaytravel 3 года назад
I was really hoping for this frame review, thank you very much!
@Lifewaytravel
@Lifewaytravel 3 года назад
There are new 5inch frames(not for racing) coming to be lighter than 60g I am hoping we can get more of these too
@armandrone9016
@armandrone9016 3 года назад
I really like it when you think outside the box ... And this project really looks incredible for a long flight ... Congrats Albert
@AlbertKimTV
@AlbertKimTV 3 года назад
Thanks... I get bored doing what 50 other channels are doing. It's not that interesting anymore.
@armandrone9016
@armandrone9016 3 года назад
@@AlbertKimTV, I totally agree ... A unique sameness has been established ... A little flight with a little song, GRRRRRR ... I can't take it anymore ... And with a greater number of practitioners, the sameness seems to have multiplied ...
@BallPingFpv
@BallPingFpv 3 года назад
Sweet quad he'd to the mountains! I'm going to fly some of the flathead river and the mouth of the jocko river in montanna in about ten min. All have to catch the rest of this vid when I get back to the house.
@JB-cq2wo
@JB-cq2wo 3 года назад
very impressive AL Nice work.
@jerryhuling2365
@jerryhuling2365 3 года назад
Great video. Thank you.
@AlbertKimTV
@AlbertKimTV 3 года назад
You are welcome!
@kmnaniak
@kmnaniak 3 года назад
man you've got impressive amount of energy in you and free time, one or two videos per day is a crazy tempo ;-)
@AlbertKimTV
@AlbertKimTV 3 года назад
I've been doin this for five years now.... I guess I'm up to 3,000 videos on my channel now... LOL...
@GKR_Video
@GKR_Video 3 года назад
I'm considering to try it. Buy these motors, props and make my own 4s li ion
@fitzflightz1407
@fitzflightz1407 3 года назад
Wicked cool. Ion is the future. I recommend BetaFPV X-Knight 5" with some dave_c motors... has been working decent for me so far on just 2S (26 minute flight time). Also-- Those are the nicest M3 screws on those motors I have ever seen!
@AlbertKimTV
@AlbertKimTV 3 года назад
This build is just one example of thousands of different ways to make an efficient 5-inch quad.
@strexttp
@strexttp 3 года назад
Nice drone !
@AlbertKimTV
@AlbertKimTV 3 года назад
Thanks 👍
@MCsCreations
@MCsCreations 3 года назад
Beautiful build, Albert!!! 😃 Pretty sweet and smooth flier! Really nice! 😃 Stay safe there! 🖖😊
@AlbertKimTV
@AlbertKimTV 3 года назад
Thanks, you too!
@legsski
@legsski 3 года назад
Thank you Albert for the video! Did you need the Capacitor or are-you just playing safe?
@AlbertKimTV
@AlbertKimTV 3 года назад
Capacitor is needed for 5-inch motors
@aaasuperiorcollectionofbir957
@aaasuperiorcollectionofbir957 2 года назад
I watch ur video for the first time you are too good I like it and subscribe also
@AlbertKimTV
@AlbertKimTV 2 года назад
😁
@thepio14343SWEG
@thepio14343SWEG 3 года назад
Veri interesting to see someone achieving long flights compared to the dji fpv! It would also be awesome to see someone replicate what dji has achieved with their fpv drone as for flight time, its quite heavy compared to our carbon drones.
@benlacayo1811
@benlacayo1811 3 года назад
NIce looking build! That frame that is in the works sounds really interesting. Will it be a similar weight to the FPVCycle Fouride 5 inch? The fouride 5 inch is around 70g by the way. Kabab flew the 5 inch version with a 3s LiPo, 2203 3000kv motors, and got decent flight times. It seemed to be a solid freestyle performer.
@evFPV
@evFPV 3 года назад
great build Albert! will you do another video to check the total flying time of that setup? try using biblades if you want to increase efficiency...
@AlbertKimTV
@AlbertKimTV 3 года назад
This is just a reference build. I was not going for "the most efficient ever" type of build. Those will come later I think...
@flyingmonkey8245
@flyingmonkey8245 3 года назад
Frame seems quite good
@PakRC
@PakRC 3 года назад
Great video as always! When will you be making an under 250gr long range build?
@AlbertKimTV
@AlbertKimTV 3 года назад
See this video for a 4-inch LR quad.... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-06N-VfUsJ_o.html
@PakRC
@PakRC 3 года назад
@@AlbertKimTV that's what I'm looking for, however, it is out of stock everywhere and I would like to build one myself, something similar to it. Thanks a lot for everything you do!
@valden
@valden 3 года назад
Hi there Albert, do you like those diatone motors? I was thinking of trying them on an ultralight 5 inch, they are about 20 grams a piece I believe? Good price too I think. Thanks!
@AlbertKimTV
@AlbertKimTV 3 года назад
Very smooth motors but on the power side, quite weak. It's gonna be for cruising and efficiency. Not for racing or freestyle.
@coreyh.3557
@coreyh.3557 2 года назад
I just got this frame but I have the caddx micro air unit with the caddx camera that is 19mm x 19mm. I see you used a TPU mount for your camera instead of the carbon fiber mount can you let me know where I could pick that mount up at?
@AlbertKimTV
@AlbertKimTV 2 года назад
It was something I grabbed off Thingiverse but I was not able to find it again. If you search for "FPV camera mount" you'll get hundreds of hits.
@fifofito
@fifofito 2 года назад
Analog Version please. Great build
@AlbertKimTV
@AlbertKimTV 2 года назад
😎
@raspberrypimilitant2242
@raspberrypimilitant2242 2 года назад
ive bin searching for a cruising long flight time build setup i like the scenic routes ya know
@AlbertKimTV
@AlbertKimTV 2 года назад
Me too
@charleswilis
@charleswilis 3 года назад
Hi Albert. I will build my first drone using this controller. Which receiver is the easiest to install/configure on that board? Tks!
@AlbertKimTV
@AlbertKimTV 3 года назад
If you're using the DJI controller, no receiver is needed.
@gazzoification
@gazzoification 3 года назад
Hi Albert, love your channel. Love this build. I'm looking to emulate this sort of build however with an analogue set up. Would a Tarsier V2 fit in this frame?! Thanks
@AlbertKimTV
@AlbertKimTV 3 года назад
Yes, it will fit but you'll have to use a custom TPU printed mount for the camera like I have for the DJI camera.
@gazzoification
@gazzoification 3 года назад
@@AlbertKimTV thanks for the reply! Slightly disappointed that I don't have a 3d printer now 😂
@gazzoification
@gazzoification 3 года назад
@@AlbertKimTV do you know the distance between the two front stand offs on this frame? Thanks
@michey7822
@michey7822 3 года назад
In the past, i was using 1806 motors, 2300kv and just 5inch biblades. It weighed 190gms without lipo...With continuos acro/freestyle flying with 4s 1300mah lipo, i was getting at least 7.5 to 8mins flight time...im guessing that now with better LiOn batts, we should get >12mins. What do you think?
@AlbertKimTV
@AlbertKimTV 3 года назад
For sure, and some of these new ones are over 3000mah, so the flights will be mega long!
@ChadWoodward
@ChadWoodward 3 года назад
Have you tried that battery on something like a more standard 5" freestyle? I'm wondering if I picked up that battery if I could use it for longer flight times and slower but more cinematic flights. Perhaps the 3000mah
@AlbertKimTV
@AlbertKimTV 3 года назад
It will probably work but you'll have no power whatsoever. It will be barely enough to cruise around and that's about it. FYI, stick to lower KV motors under 2400kv for 4S. OR put in a motor output limit to reduce the amp draw otherwise it won't get off the ground.
@ChadWoodward
@ChadWoodward 3 года назад
@@AlbertKimTV What about a 6S build? 1750kv or similar. I'm trying to decide it's possible to use the same rig for freestyle type flying, but also stretch flight time with a different battery if I wanted a longer flight
@MotorTipsVids
@MotorTipsVids 2 года назад
Hello man, nice work, im builfding one to. do you have the STL files for the camera mount? ,
@AlbertKimTV
@AlbertKimTV 2 года назад
Sorry, I don't.
@GKR_Video
@GKR_Video 3 года назад
Have you tried these batteries on cinewhoops?
@checkeredflagfilms
@checkeredflagfilms 3 года назад
Nice Build Albert. Looks like you couldn't a got 10+ minutes easily. I've been flying with 4 of those same batteries with my iFlight XL-5 with a gopro7 and I get around 10 minutes or so cruising. They're really inexpensive...around 20 bucks each. Also, I've seen 3000 and 3500mah versions from other manufacturers I'd like to try out.
@AlbertKimTV
@AlbertKimTV 3 года назад
I think we will see more of these li-ion batteries. Amazing flight times for those who don't race.
@checkeredflagfilms
@checkeredflagfilms 3 года назад
@@AlbertKimTV Completely agreed. There are a lot of guys that are new to the hobby and/or fly commercially who demand longer flight times and fly cruise cinematic style. So the LiIon batteries are ideal.
@checkeredflagfilms
@checkeredflagfilms 3 года назад
@Esdras FPV All 'stock' parts. XL5 HD...right outta the box.
@charleswilis
@charleswilis 3 года назад
Hi Albert. Which charger do you use for this battery? Could you send me link, please? Tks!
@AlbertKimTV
@AlbertKimTV 3 года назад
The one in this video. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-UBek7samfFc.html
@bleeksbentbits3150
@bleeksbentbits3150 3 года назад
ZOHD have out a whole range of Li-Ion packs available in 18650/3500 & 21700/5000 sizes with various cell counts- not as cheap but much better than those AuLine packs.... Well worth checking out! ;)
@runforestrunfpv4354
@runforestrunfpv4354 3 года назад
Does the red button emax 2205 count as long duration now?
@TechnicallyTom
@TechnicallyTom 3 года назад
I like the folding props, however, for testing purposes, you should really try some bi blade non folding props. I also have noticed that I tend to get better flight times after the motors have had enough flights to break them in.
@AlbertKimTV
@AlbertKimTV 3 года назад
I've heard that "breaking in motors" is a myth. Where is there data to back this up?
@TechnicallyTom
@TechnicallyTom 3 года назад
@@AlbertKimTV I don’t have data on this, but I felt disappointed with the initial flight times on some of my builds but later found I was getting what I expected. This was with Xing motors. The construction of the motor may have an effect on this. I would actually like to see tests done on this.
@AlbertKimTV
@AlbertKimTV 3 года назад
Interesting... I hadn't notice this on Xing motors. I'll have to see how the Chimera4 does over time. Are you using the same batteries? Maybe that might be a factor.
@TechnicallyTom
@TechnicallyTom 3 года назад
@@AlbertKimTV This is what I know about bearings from working in a bicycle shop for years. Traditional bearings are adjustable. If they are too loose or too tight, the races pit. There is a very narrow range that is an acceptable adjustment, however it is a range. If you go absolutely as loose as possible to prevent slop in the bearing, they will loosen up, especially if the bearing is new. Non adjustable bearings need to be adjusted towards the tighter end of acceptable to have a decent life span. New bearing race surfaces can very from looking almost like a matte surface to having a mirror finish. Even the matte surface starts to look like a mirror finish on the thin track where the bearings move after a lot of use. Keep flying the quad for a month and see if you notice a change in flight times. I do use a variety of batteries, but do not feel that accounts for all the differences in flight time.
@jjkeaton7085
@jjkeaton7085 3 года назад
I bought this exact battery and my charger only charged it up to 16.4 volts. How high should this bettery get charged and discharged to?
@AlbertKimTV
@AlbertKimTV 3 года назад
You charger settings are limiting the final voltage. Mine goes up to 16.8v.
@jjkeaton7085
@jjkeaton7085 3 года назад
@@AlbertKimTV how low can i discharge to?
@tonymejia2345
@tonymejia2345 3 года назад
@@jjkeaton7085 2.5mha but to be safe I stop at 2.9
@ChrisParayno
@ChrisParayno 3 года назад
What if you did some light freestyling with lithium ion batteries? Is it even possible? Would it drop voltage instantly? Great content.
@AlbertKimTV
@AlbertKimTV 3 года назад
Yes, you will get instant voltage sag. This is normal for Li-ION batteries.
@pucksaver
@pucksaver 3 года назад
Just curious if you considered any of the "toothpick" style 5" frames. I assume those would be the lightest - no? Is the main downside of those the packaging of all the components or something else?
@AlbertKimTV
@AlbertKimTV 3 года назад
See this video for that style of frame. This is just a reference build for comparison to more exotic builds coming later. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5wXJPeNEZQo.html
@robertbycapri
@robertbycapri 3 года назад
Hello there, I am very happy with subscription to this channel. I’d like cruise around no high speeds needed, but mid to long flight time mby..just chill cruise like for bikers who doesn’t need speed, is that a build you would council as begin with ? (I’m not interested into racing nor powerloops
@AlbertKimTV
@AlbertKimTV 3 года назад
Yeah, this sounds like a build you might like. It's pretty easy to put together but if you prefer to buy something off the shelf, let me know.
@marksherman630
@marksherman630 3 года назад
How about a word or two about that humongous capacitor you have on that build (and some other recent ones I've noticed)? I thought the DJI video would be clear without that?
@AlbertKimTV
@AlbertKimTV 3 года назад
The capacitor is not jut for analog video noise. It's for cleaning up electrical noise in general. Electrical noise is what causes video noise in analog video. It can also mess with your PID tune. So I have it on there mainly for keeping a nice PID tune without adding a lot of filtering.
@marksherman630
@marksherman630 3 года назад
@@AlbertKimTV Thanks, I learned something today!
@M.TTT.
@M.TTT. 3 года назад
I like this, but also want something that can still do higher speeds and moderate freestyle/mountain diving and get better flight times, maybe 10 minutes or longer with a change of flight style. The MOD-L frame caught my eye, but also Dave C's mini long range.
@AlbertKimTV
@AlbertKimTV 3 года назад
Ah, this is the "Unicorn" 5-inch... I don't think it exists with today's parts. Perhaps in a few years...
@M.TTT.
@M.TTT. 3 года назад
@@AlbertKimTV ah yea, the Dave C miniLR does pretty well though, but probably in the end should have a seperate long range and freestyle quad I suppose.
@ivanpalomares8668
@ivanpalomares8668 3 года назад
I wanna start building drones and rc cars inventions like that but i don’t even have a soldering iron don’t know anything about it but i wanna build this quad after I have some experience any suggestions for beginners?
@AlbertKimTV
@AlbertKimTV 3 года назад
I have a playlist for quadcopter builds. I would go back and watch some builds from a few years ago to get started. ru-vid.com/group/PLPlPgQFfbIvGqCfBiq1jz14K0qmgHHIS8
@ivanpalomares8668
@ivanpalomares8668 3 года назад
Albert Kim thanks man I appreciate it I’m gonna watch the video Rn
@nadieselgirl
@nadieselgirl 3 года назад
Any idea what the current draw was during your flight?
@nadieselgirl
@nadieselgirl 3 года назад
I'd love to see an update and maybe inav. :)
@MontisTube
@MontisTube 3 года назад
I heared the rumors that Diatone MB2204 motors are already discontinued or factory stopped producing them. Cannot find them on Diatone website also...
@AlbertKimTV
@AlbertKimTV 3 года назад
Wow, really? This is the motor on their 5-inch toothpick!
@MontisTube
@MontisTube 3 года назад
@@AlbertKimTV not sure what happened, but my order was cancelled on one shop and the seller said the factory stopped manufacturing them. Well at least the Diatone should know whats going on.
@yannickg6904
@yannickg6904 3 года назад
Xt Xinte still has them available. Maybe I should place an order right now! www.xt-xinte.com/Diatone-1pc-4pcs-MB1105-MB1103-MB1408-TOKA-5500KV-8500KV-5000KV-FPV-Brushless-Motor-2-4S-10A-2-3inch-For-DIY-FPV-Racing-RC-Drone-p743851.html
@SerialKoE
@SerialKoE 3 года назад
@@MontisTube Banggood has listed them with expected shipping around October 26th. Would be really sad, as they are cheap and I am about to order a set for a light MK4 analog LR build
@MontisTube
@MontisTube 3 года назад
@@SerialKoE Maybe, but Diatone has removed this motor from their website. This should mean something...
@cheri758
@cheri758 3 года назад
You can get 4 liitokala 3500mAh 20A 18650's quite cheap
@Romasu_
@Romasu_ 2 года назад
i wonder how these motors would do with bi blade 6: props
@AlbertKimTV
@AlbertKimTV 2 года назад
Might be ok depending on AUW
@SummerCrowfpv
@SummerCrowfpv 3 года назад
You should be able to get awesome flight times out of that bird it’s so light I’m using the 3000mha 4s battery it’s 1000mha more amps and only 4g heavier I use them on my marmotte that I set up for long range it weighs in at 436g with a 200g battery it flys for 18 min consistently I just built a 4100mha 4s battery that weighs in at 300g using 21700 Li-ion cells 30c and on these it flys for a solid 23 min consistently I’m running 2306 2150kv motors
@jermadjesty
@jermadjesty 3 года назад
kebab's Fouride with 5" arms might be a great frame for a lightweight build
@AGILISFPV
@AGILISFPV 3 года назад
This
@spaceportseven
@spaceportseven 3 года назад
Thanks for the tips esp with batteries. Regarding this frame, I made one up using this and was ok until it had a light crash, about 10m it fell from hover as prop came loose. The front arm really suffered , not only is the carbon bendy and weak but one of the mounting screws tore through the lower frame plate as so little carbon holding it in place. I repaired but same happened again, decommissioned it after that and went iflight dc5. Guess with cruising quad there's less chance of crash 👍
@AlbertKimTV
@AlbertKimTV 3 года назад
It's a cheap frame and not really a basher frame.
@stilness285
@stilness285 2 года назад
this motors can run on lion 6s?
@AlbertKimTV
@AlbertKimTV 2 года назад
Not at the KV I have.
@B3NSipodtouch
@B3NSipodtouch 3 года назад
Do you think this will carry my hero nine
@AlbertKimTV
@AlbertKimTV 3 года назад
For sure, no problems
@abimaputra
@abimaputra 3 года назад
Its a long duration of flying or long range bro?
@AlbertKimTV
@AlbertKimTV 3 года назад
This was just a test for long duration flying. Long Range means too many different things so I'm avoiding that topic.
@DronePlayground
@DronePlayground 3 года назад
😱💪👍👀🇭🇷
@Enz5623
@Enz5623 2 года назад
I’ve been trying to build something similar but I’m having trouble finding motors. Everyone seems to be using the 12x12 mounting and it gives me a headache figuring out which frames to with which motors.
@AlbertKimTV
@AlbertKimTV 2 года назад
Usually the frame product page will list the motor mounting pattern in the specs.
@_bs5349
@_bs5349 10 месяцев назад
hi buddy, I'm half-subscribed to you, I have a question for you, please answer if it's not difficult for you, I'm new to drones, I've never used them at all, and the other day I bought myself a vortex Emerson 250, please tell me if I can redo anything on it during use, and in general how are you do you think, my friend, as for my first drone, he is quite normal?your advice will be very useful for me, thank you in advance 🤝🙏👍
@AlbertKimTV
@AlbertKimTV 10 месяцев назад
Sorry, I'm not familiar with that drone so can't offer any advice. I would seek out someone else who has experience with that model. They will have better advice to offer.
@_bs5349
@_bs5349 10 месяцев назад
@@AlbertKimTV anyway thanks u
@BH-ro4ly
@BH-ro4ly 2 месяца назад
2 blade or 3 blade for long range?
@AlbertKimTV
@AlbertKimTV 2 месяца назад
Depends on what your goals are. Both could be great.
@johnal4560
@johnal4560 3 года назад
That is still too heavy i made one way way bigger then this and weight 1.5kg with out battery and it give me 30min flying time with 4s lipo 8000
@chrisstokley7687
@chrisstokley7687 3 года назад
folding props are a waist! only way be good is if slow fly between trees maybe as a safety! then be 2 prop only.. reason : 2 blades are quiet/efficent/ no thrills but long flight times/ way easier to BALANCE!!!! 3 blades are for speed! 3 blades are loud + vibrate and non balance capable- they build identical as can .. when together.. there out balance a bit- /not as important if raceing! Sooo -2 blades are better in every way for lighter/ better video- no vibrates/smooth and easier on batter time!
@spyder000069
@spyder000069 2 года назад
I would say three blades are less efficient and only benefit is more thrust if you can't fit a larger two blade. otherwise you're just swinging extra weight and taking more energy to do it.
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