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Madeline James Writes
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This is a very chatty, rambly worldbuilding vlog where you can follow along my thoughts.
I'm at the stage in the brainstorming for my new project where I really need to figure out the setting. in this video I am figuring out what kind of physical setting I think will make sense for the society features I want, and then showing you the world I've build and trying to figure out where it makes the most sense to place my society!
The process I am using is definitely trying out some of the basic environment to civilization trends you see with a more geographic determinism/possibilism approach. This is certainly not the extent of the possibilities, and I haven't finished my research, but I'm playing around with it!
Let me know which of the two setting options I'm stuck between at the end that you think would be the most fun to write a story about. AND even though this is a very early peek at my cultural worldbuilding, if you have any notes or see any issues please let me know!
00:00 The Plan
02:12 Society Goals
08:43 Matching Setting
15:14 Analyzing Maps
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@madelinejameswrites
@madelinejameswrites 5 месяцев назад
Just an FYI, I was playing around with geographic trends for civilizations (like where you'd see traveling nomads vs wheat farming people) and that research definitely isn't done yet, so there are for sure mistakes. This process is NOT done yet and is going to be a lot less geographically deterministic in my guide.
@VallelYuln
@VallelYuln 5 месяцев назад
I was about to comment that you may be going too deterministic with these! Even though I get that you wanna whittle down your options. Especially in terms of who can conquer who, there are plenty of examples of 'smaller' or even nomadic civilisations conquering 'larger' civilisations. (Idk if nomads would technically count as a civilisation, the term implies living in cities) As an aside, for where you place your cultures you may be missing out on a very important factor here: major rivers in deserts. Some of the most notable early civilisations (Egypt, mesopotamia, indus valley) are major rivers flowing through (hot) desert regions. You can also have rivers flowing down from both sides of a mountain range if only one side is wet, I think, if you feel like there might not be enough rainfall in those regions for rivers otherwise.
@madelinejameswrites
@madelinejameswrites 5 месяцев назад
@@VallelYuln very good points. Im making a note of the first part so I don't forget, I think I don't need to worry about it on this map just yet because the type of invasion I want is very specific (more of an occupation that divides the minds of the country and the slowly squeezes it's fists). And that's a good point, I need to be sure to account for the river civilizations. I'll brainstorm how to pull that in!
@yanickschmid765
@yanickschmid765 5 месяцев назад
Something really cool was how potatoes affected culture and military in Europe. Wheat, once ripe, has to harvested and placed in grain houses; while potatoes can stay in the ground ready to be picked and rated. These wheat grain houses were perfect for supplying pillaging enemy armies with food. With the introduction of potatoes, armies could not easily pillage cropland. For farmers this meant safer food supplies. For the military, this meant stronger reliance on supply train, and overall decrease in army speeds
@madelinejameswrites
@madelinejameswrites 5 месяцев назад
Oh yeah that's really cool, I remember reading something about how famines barely ever happened after potatoes too!
@outsideupside
@outsideupside 5 месяцев назад
Island continent for sure. Ideally having it be the island off the coast. Best isolation balance. I like the "coastal temperate" area across the sea as the invaders. But the mediterranean culture might be fun too. Maybe this invasion forces the island out of relative isolation with it's other neighbors. Good luck on the new project. Love your work!
@madelinejameswrites
@madelinejameswrites 5 месяцев назад
I do really like the island continent, and yeah the invasion forces having an affect on a "trail" of the neighbors would definitely add some good tension and be fun to work with! And thank you 😊
@ComradeNicolas
@ComradeNicolas 5 месяцев назад
​@@madelinejameswrites Your society reminds me of Japan in a lot of ways. Maybe taking inspiration or studying Japan's early history can help you formulate a new or more indepth culture/society. Can't wait to see this world.
@madelinejameswrites
@madelinejameswrites 5 месяцев назад
@@ComradeNicolas oh, that true! I'll definitely do some research there, thank you!
@kentario1610
@kentario1610 4 месяца назад
As you were speaking about a culture with a more tight family structure, and achieving that through agriculture, I kept thinking about rice farming, and I'm glad you were thinking the same thing! Listening to you is like broadening my horizons of what I think I'm "allowed" to do, and is inspiring as well.
@madelinejameswrites
@madelinejameswrites 4 месяца назад
Yes, you were definitely thinking the same thing as me haha. Being more intentional about all this has been really fun
@boatt_swag
@boatt_swag 5 месяцев назад
This is the exact worldbuilding stuff I've been looking for, was actually making my own kind of version of this but this is awesome to like compare my version to and see what I missed. Thank you for the perspective.
@Jpteryx
@Jpteryx 2 месяца назад
The climate and biome maps for this world look excellent!
@madelinejameswrites
@madelinejameswrites 2 месяца назад
Thank you!!
@keltavuokko
@keltavuokko 5 месяцев назад
I'd pick the northeast: I could easily see a story of the more western wheat-people invading the eastern/northern wheat-people (maybe the other wheat-people have good resources like rich mining activity on their side of the mountain range or something) and then progressing to attack your rice people next.
@kentario1610
@kentario1610 4 месяца назад
Hi, I'm back. Your videos have great rewatchability evidently, I was thinking about a specific people group now (and handsewing, which occupies my hands while your videos occupy my mind) and they're macaw winged people in the rainforest canopy, and I was thinking about if they'd build houses, and why, and how their society would look, and I'm arriving at communal platforms in the canopy layer with some higher ones in the emergent layer, and they also shape trees they choose to continue to build on (so I have to decide on if I'll have realistic slow growing trees that require generations to shape or if I'll have fast growing ones that need just a few decades), but recent human incursions make them build in more defensible areas or they have to leave entirely, but they're understandably attached to their land. Imagining their interaction with humans over time and how human exposure changes their culture is fascinating to me and I want to draw some scenes from it now. Maybe the discord would be a better place to talk about this, currently it's just friends' DMs and a wing fan server for me.
@madelinejameswrites
@madelinejameswrites 4 месяца назад
The discord would be perfect, but I think that's a really good plan with how they respond to humans encroaching on their territory. Most species in the rainforest live almost exclusively in the trees anyways so I think it would make sense from food/prey perspectives too!
@doofy67
@doofy67 4 месяца назад
This video is great and I learnt a lot. Thanks!
@Perfectothemediocre
@Perfectothemediocre 5 месяцев назад
Alright I guess I want to talk about what is a "reasonable" possibility of invasion. Invasions don't happen in a vacuum, they happen during periods of weakness, during civil wars, famines, and plagues. Sometimes two major powers will exhaust themselves against each other only for a third party to opportunistically prey on both. Sometimes even between relatively equal powers a tactical revolution or a military reform makes a couple of decisive battles complete blowouts. These events are both great historical upsets, completely unforeseeable by the majority of people living through them AND also so obvious in hindsight that they're seemingly inevitable. I'm not saying that it's bad to think about how plausible certain outcomes are. Indeed having a fictional story that had as many coincidences as real life come out as a satisfying narrative would require pretty incredible writing. Rather what I'm trying to say is that whatever needs to happen to make the invasion "reasonable" is fine as long as it's interesting, executed well, and tied into the themes of the story. For instance having the invasion take place either during or in the immediate aftermath of a civil war could be a pretty interesting way to explore the politics of the kingdom and whatever clan the main characters are a part of. Did the clan take part or try to stay out of it? Was the clan unified or did it split and fight on different sides? Maybe the divisions of this war continue to echo even now after they've been conquered by an outsider. It seems you've thought a lot about the particulars of land, it's climate, and it's agriculture. An interesting way to convey this information might be with a dramatic example of all of it going catastrophically wrong- natural disaster into famine. That could serve narrative dual purpose as the thing that causes the moment of weakness that prompts the invasion. I went most of my life not knowing what a monsoon really is (my definition was either "rainy season" or "asian tropical storm") and if you want your audience to know what a monsoon is you may need to show them. A short monsoon one year with a heavy monsoon the next year means you can go from drought to drowning, and all your carefully laid out terrace farm swept away reduced to a torrent of mud. Also you've got this potion system system to work with maybe a good way to introduce that would be in the context of a plague. What can potions do? what can't they do? how easy are they to make? who can make them? if you want to answer these questions early on showing the reader how the apothecaries work via a disaster like a disease outbreak could be a dramatic way to do so, while at the same time neatly setting up the weakness that leaves them vulnerable to invasion. On the other hand most casualties in military history are due to disease and that's especially true in tropical regions. You could have there be a disease that was a nuisance to locals but deadly to outsiders and the invading country recently discovered a cure for it and that's what made the invasion possible. I'm not saying that those are all incredible ideas, and I wouldn't throw more then one of those in a story. I'm trying to say that if you need one of your fictional countries to beat another one of your fictional countries, and you need a contrivance to make that happen, you can still end up well within the realm of what I'm willing to believe. If you do it elegantly enough, in a way that directs my attention to other interesting elements of the setting I doubt that I'd even be able to recognize it as a contrivance at all.
@madelinejameswrites
@madelinejameswrites 5 месяцев назад
Very good points! I have a few ideas but I wanted a physical idea of the setting to help me figure out what the histories and conflicts between the societies will be. I have a few things that need to be plausible to make my story make sense and I won't get too into the specifics about the story here (I hope to publish eventually) but I'll definitely be keeping this all in mind! Thank you 😊
@MrVlandus
@MrVlandus 5 месяцев назад
Oh. Back issues. I have so many over the years. And since I have been building. It acts up once and a while. World building the best part of creating an engaging story. Love maps and creating comcept art.
@madelinejameswrites
@madelinejameswrites 5 месяцев назад
Ooph even more impressive how much work you've been doing!
@artyoz
@artyoz 5 месяцев назад
First off, sorry to hear about your injury! Back problems are the worst, they mess *everything* else up. On-topic, I just wanted to say that I love, love love love your northeastern continent. I'm a sucker for diagonally-oriented continents, because you get that sweet diversity in climate from a north-south-oriented continent, but also those long "belts" of climates from east-west continents. The northwestern shore especially caught my eye, imagining the cultural interactions between societies in the steppe and Df region with those from Cfb. Augh, climate! Culture! It's just so... AUGH! You get what I'm saying, right?
@madelinejameswrites
@madelinejameswrites 5 месяцев назад
Thank you! And I absolutely know what you mean! ☺️ If I don't use this place in the world for this story, I will definitely be using it later
@artyoz
@artyoz 5 месяцев назад
@@madelinejameswrites I do think the east coast of that continent might fit better with your "brief," too. To me, the northern islands/coast of the south-central continent look like places where lots of different societies might share an agricultural base, but have enough isolation to develop as distinct cultures (i.e. Japan, Korea, Taiwan, and the Philippines). The east coast of that diagonal continent, on the other hand, looks like it would form a much more unified culture, and even its contact with the wheat farmers to the north remind me of south and north China, respectively: so you could have some interaction and even blending in the areas around the southern foothills, but still a lot of cultural distinction as you go further south. As for motivation for invasion/adventurism from the northern wheat farmers, maybe that very interaction and blending is the impetus: some northern ruler has got it into their head to unite these two related, interactive cultures. Not to keep harping on the China comparison, but maybe a Qin Shi Huang kind of character (or maybe a Charlemagne, for that matter).
@madelinejameswrites
@madelinejameswrites 5 месяцев назад
@@artyoz ooh that is interesting... I think I need to figure out how big these civilizations would be. And look into those leaders!
@SebRomu
@SebRomu 5 месяцев назад
Nothing wrong with watching a little Poldark to clear you mind. I'd lean towards the island option... I like islands.
@madelinejameswrites
@madelinejameswrites 5 месяцев назад
They are really cool, and I haven't worked with one in much detail before...
@d.robertdigman1293
@d.robertdigman1293 5 месяцев назад
Hu, Madeline. I think it'd be best if I could say this on the Discord but I cannot access it. For somecreason my home Internet is out and my ISP has decided not to provide tech support on weekends! Further, I am having issues trying to access via my phone app so cannot log on there either. That said, what I saw of this video (my Internet failed partway through) I did see a problem with your map I wanted to suggest. This is a problem I've had myself, and is part of the reason I decided to physically paint planets upon Earth globes I buy. If you look at your southernmost continent, it comes close to touching the 90°S line. That continent should appear on your map at that latitude smeared across the full width of the map, much as Antarctica gets smeared. You should also consider how your near-polar regions of your northern continents would be distorted. I created a design for a planet once and only discovered my error when I tried globe-painting it. I hope this helps, but in a way that causes few if any headaches! Cheers!
@madelinejameswrites
@madelinejameswrites 5 месяцев назад
Oh no, sorry about your Internet! And thank you for pointing that out. I need to figure out how I want to address it. This is the world I also want to paint on a globe at some point, but that won't help me with all my other maps! I'm going to have to do some thinking on this! I may have to... Use software 🫨
@Bevillia
@Bevillia 5 месяцев назад
Hi Madeline, loved the video. Great to see your thought process laid out like this. Something to consider with your two civilisation options would be how they would impact on the potions system you mentioned earlier in the video. I'm thinking of how the two regions would access "exotic" ingredients from far away, and how the southern civilisation, despite being much smaller, may have a far greater access to a wider range of potions ingredients than the northern one due to their seafaring nature and the trade links with the two nearby continents, while the northern one being much more isolated as a region would be much more reliant on "local" ingredients as they'd have a lesser ability to access ingredients from far away without major naval trade links; especially if the nomadic region that would likely serve as a major intermediary is disrupted by the war (or involved in the war themselves). Now, I'm not sure which of those could be more useful to you as a writer and the story you're wanting to tell, but they would be different impactors and ones you may want to consider since you're wanting the potions system to be of some importance. Another thing to note would be that the seafaring nature of the southern continent would likely mean that while rice and wheat were the staple crops for the continent, especially along the abundant coasts you could see fishing being a major competitor as a food source, especially with the 1700s technology level you mentioned towards the beginning of the video meaning your coastal communities would likely be beginning the shift towards the development of trawlers and dories that allowed for easier access to more distant fishing grounds. Culturally that could mean differences in culture between the larger family/community oriented rice farmers and the more individualistic fishers, while militarily it would mean ready access to a large number of craft and crew able to transport armed men around as invasion forces (alongside a plethora of other things, but those two directly address points you mentioned in the video!). Conversely the northern continent could be much more culturally homogenous, without a major alternative food-producing profession than farming.
@madelinejameswrites
@madelinejameswrites 5 месяцев назад
This is very helpful. I hadn't thought about the "exotic" ingredients from far away at all, and that would totally make sense in the Southern continent. I think that would help out a lot actually, gives me a lot of ideas. I'm picturing exotic top shelf potion ingredient jars haha And I'll need to look more into the seafaring part, but it could be interesting to have the distinguished cultures within the same society and have that feeding some of the internal instability too... Really helpful, thank you!
@4984christian
@4984christian 5 месяцев назад
This is more about the geographic map series: Suppose I have a regional map in mind (size of a country maybe). How do I build a world map that suits that regional map? Because I want to expand the map in a logical way but... I got the impression that the process is a little hard to predict what I get out as world.
@madelinejameswrites
@madelinejameswrites 5 месяцев назад
I've done this a few times and I will say it is easier if you've done these kinds of maps before. What you probably want to do is look at a simpler guide that just works based on patterns (Artifexian has a great one from a few years ago for placing climate areas) and then stick your regional area in the right latitudes to get roughly what you want. At that point you can start from the beginning of my guide series (or anyone else's really) depending on how detailed you want to go. There may be some tweaking involved, must you should be able to get close enough if you don't do anything too extreme especially in the parts of the world near your regional area.
@4984christian
@4984christian 5 месяцев назад
@@madelinejameswrites thank you very much! You are really inspireing. Artefexian as well. :)
@gregwochlik9233
@gregwochlik9233 5 месяцев назад
My vote goes to the southern continent. The Eastern Wheat people could look for somewhere warmer, hence the invasion. The tiny island could become highly miliaristic and try to expand their sub-culture onto the bigger island. The bigger island could be unprepared for the small islanders. That continent confies quite a bit of different cultures. There are "sufficent" geographic barriers, which can be bypassed. The mountains could be a source of iron for wepons. The wheat civ could sell the rice people "useless" rocks (coal); unbenownst to the wheat civ, they could trigger the industrial revolution in the rice people. The rice people could invade the wheat people (as a plot twist) to gain access to the coal. I hope your back gets better, and I'll see you on discord.
@madelinejameswrites
@madelinejameswrites 5 месяцев назад
Vote noted! And the idea of triggering another civs industrial revolution is hilarious. Imagine the public opinion on that one hahaha love it
@Ratchet4647
@Ratchet4647 Месяц назад
Its interesting that you want both relative isolation and technological parity. Isolated societies tend to fall behind technologically.
@madelinejameswrites
@madelinejameswrites Месяц назад
There is also access to magic to consider
@Ratchet4647
@Ratchet4647 Месяц назад
@madelinejameswrites that's fair. Magic can be an equalizing force, depending on the system. If it slows technological progress due to magic dependence or facilitates the transmission of technological advances across the globe, for example.
@madelinejameswrites
@madelinejameswrites Месяц назад
@@Ratchet4647 in this case it eased agricultural pressures for awhile, allowing them to have a smaller part of the population focused on food production (plus during the same period, weather would have been less destructive). I'm sure there are some areas they'd be bound in still, but overall I don't think they'll be at a big disadvantage
@conlangery
@conlangery 5 месяцев назад
So, a couple of thoughts. First, I wouldn't be super quick to rule out nomadic invaders. China was taken over by alliances of semi-nomadic tribes twice. It might not be exactly the kind of occupation you want, though, as they did have to basically install themselves as emperors and co-opt the existing bueaucracy. Also, if you're going with 1700s, long-distance sea invasions are not out of the questions. By that time, we had overseas colonial empires, including the destruction of indigenous civilized empires. But otherwise, I feel like of your options, the one on that northern is probably the best bet. There are more routes to invade, and its possible somebody could have already built an empire out of the wheat cultures to the north.
@madelinejameswrites
@madelinejameswrites 5 месяцев назад
Definitely a good point, both would be possible in my world. I'll do a little thinking on it! Thank you
@KiarraThune
@KiarraThune 5 месяцев назад
@3.09. I wonder if your society having moved from an agrarian society to a more evolved society set up a system where an individual spends time with their second cousins, and/or third cousins, to keep the kinship alive. Watching more before I post. Oh, another idea based on something my family does, we all get together to help with the harvest at the family orchard, so my parents, my siblings, our children and, now with the arrival of Henry, their children. So, maybe harvest time is when the whole family gather (in many meanings), which allows freedom and movement afterwards. Obviously, I'm at the start and you've got more to say based on your research.
@KiarraThune
@KiarraThune 5 месяцев назад
@8.00 Have a look at the Holy Roman Empire, which has a bad press but I find fascinating. Lots of small states and diversity with a distant/remote power centre. This would allow an equality of technology and transmission of ideas. The invasion threat comes from the rise of the Nation State, where identity is determined by language than religion. To avoid the obvious European flavour maybe something with an Inca/Aztec influence too. And usual disclaimer: influences are like herbs/spices in cooking, they flavour the dish but should never dominate.
@madelinejameswrites
@madelinejameswrites 5 месяцев назад
I really like the idea of having activities revolved around family, even if family units have started to separate a bit. It would be a good way to show how the society/culture is holding onto traditions and that kinship focused culture.
@madelinejameswrites
@madelinejameswrites 5 месяцев назад
@@KiarraThune ooh that's a good option to consider.
@vincentcleaver1925
@vincentcleaver1925 5 месяцев назад
Atomic bearhugz, only not literally... Until your back gets better! 8-P
@hakanbjrnson124
@hakanbjrnson124 5 месяцев назад
Oh wow how coincidental, you threw your back out around the same time as my boss! Oh wait, this is an "everyone taking their Christmas trees and decorations down on Epiphany" thing isn't it?
@madelinejameswrites
@madelinejameswrites 5 месяцев назад
Oh my tree is still up, and every single decoration 😅
@furnaceheadgames9001
@furnaceheadgames9001 5 месяцев назад
When you make this a playlist make sure it's from first to latest
@madelinejameswrites
@madelinejameswrites 5 месяцев назад
Hmm let me check those out
@madelinejameswrites
@madelinejameswrites 5 месяцев назад
I made sure the Planning a writing project playlist and worldbuilding ones were good! Thanks!
@coolmantheonlycoolman9477
@coolmantheonlycoolman9477 5 месяцев назад
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