Bully Boyz are MASSIVELY Powerful - Codex Orks Detachment Review and Unit Thoughts 

Nerfed, or nuked from orbit?

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Necrons have more shinannigans this is our wat yo krump them

@@arminakuma2828 The Foot of GWork always comes down on our ladz just when they start getting proppa 'ard. Like Deff n' Taxzzez

I think they'll just raise Meganobz to 35/40 pts pet model and maaaybe drop FNP to 5+. That sorts out the whole issue.

This. There exists means of dealing with Orks, but people are bringing stuff for heavier targets too much I think.

Which makes Orks gamebreaking sorry but they are and always have been an NPC faction this playstyle has no place in serious play

@@Sajuek found the git who got krumped

Not really some of the best combat units in the game with buffs like Custodes or Death Company or World eaters etc. are not going to be able to deal with meganobz. The waagh also gives huge mobility, especially with cheap trucks available as well, turn 2 and 3 most armies cannot deal with a double waaagh of Orks, their units are just too cheap. Green Tide is causing similar issues, chaff clearing guns don't work well because of the T5 and the invul, so you are wounding them on 5s and they save on 5s so even boyz advancing and charging in big numbers across the board most armies can't deal with, let alone meganobz that need 40+ lascannons shots to take down just 5 (even more if they use AOC). No army in the game has the firepower or damage output to deal with 18 meganobz, plus characters, in two turns of the waagh, which massively buffs their damage as well and access to armour of contempt. They are better than Custodes wardens at about 60% of the cost, 3 squads of meganobz are 18 T6, 2+ save, armour of contempt, 3W bodies, with 2 turns of 4+ FNP, that can advance an charge, get hit re-rolls, and hit with like S10 and S13 in melee in two turns as well. With a warboss they are an absurd 230 points, can kill a land raider pretty much each squad a turn, for two turns, and can take like over 2000 pts of shooting to kill ffs and that is less than 700 points of your army. 3 squads of wardens, which are just flat out worse, plus 3 characters, is 1080 points, and they get one turn of FNP, one turn of advance and charge (if you use Blad Champion), and one turn of damage boost in shield host). Oh and the Orks being 390 pts cheaper, have 3 extra guys as well, so 9 more wounds to chew through. The detachment rule is too good when combined with those datasheet at the absurd points cost. Meganobz have a profile better than Custodes, better than Terminators, but are 30PPM and now have a two turn damage boost and two turn 4+ FNP, they should be 50PPM or more with those abilities, not 30. They are broken, it is pretty obvious from the results they are getting, not how people are playing against them. Too much defensive power, offensive melee power for too little cost. If Custodes wardens were 30PPM and Custodes players had 3 squads of wardens coming at you across the board for like 650 points, people would be screaming about how broken they are. Meganobz are tougher than wardens and hit even harder.

@@tajj7 Bro tune it down, we can hear your whining from miles away.

also big 20 mans of boyz with a warboss get a double waagh as well, pair with a painboy two turns of 5+ and 5++

I was really surprised the 2nd list doesn't run a wartrike for those bikes

I think what's going to happen is with the new Battleline focused mission pack is looking to 'somewhat' counter this...but yes I picture MANZ going up at least 15 or 20 points per model.

Well that's competitive 40k for you. Players will always abuse the best units, it just makes sense to do it if it helps to secure the win. GW know this though and know it helps sell models too. It's probably baked into their whole marketing strategy by now. "Hey James Workshop, we have a surplus of Meganobz in the warehouse, want us to push them in the new codex to clear em?" Meanwhile everybody else who is not a high level comp player suffers for their sins once the NERF hammer comes down and then the cycle continues with a new unit. At least that's how it appears to me.

To be fair, all the strats only work on nobz or megaz, so there isn't a huge amount of choice if you want to take advantage of the strats.

And warboss which means anything that can have a war boss lead it gets it.​@@jacobflynn7411

@@jacobflynn7411 That hasn't stopped GW from gutting an entire line because several units are good. They do not do fair/fun preserving balancing consistently, Admech is the current example of this.

Full the rest in with Killa Kans, best thing in that detachment

orks is never beaten

Custodian guard are t6. Eightbound are t6...who barely wear armour and basic armour at that for elite marines. Custodes should be t8 minimum.

​@@frogsterlicous7040Eightbound also have a bunch of daemons shoved into them, kinda disingenuous to call them just "elite marines"

The walking fungus is about 10-12 feet tall and genetically engineered (albeit a debased version of the original design) by beings far beyond the Emperor's abilities. Anything but a fatal wound doesn't put them down, they can recover from being decapitated.

They are T5 with no invuln. They are good, but not more resilient than custodes.

bring more chaff and stall

@@sumsarprat I'll try. I play Blood Angels, so I guess the most chaff-like unit I've is Scouts. Need to paint some up.

It's the Ork army I always wanted! Might be too cheap in points now currently, but the rules are solid.

@@sumsarprat lol, no they are just broken in this detachment and horribly undecosted. Let me play 30PPM Custodes and see how fair it is and meganobz are considerably tougher than custodes in this detachment.

@@tajj7 30 ppm custodes? **a finger on the monkey's paw curls**

Custodes players are so desperate theyre creating their own happiness

Welcome intro a space marines world (codex) 37% win rate

That is the sort of thing I feel you should warn your friend about when they go to fall back.

@@SgtDax Luckily I did remember to warn him at the start of the game and right before his movement. He still wasn't happy, but at least he didn't feel like I tricked him.

Gotta love the "totally not power level" age we are in

oi! you an ork player or what? we dont komplain!

@@erimo506 My Grot tanks got fucked off to legends. I will complain.

3D print or convert from something that sort looks right

Buy terminator kits.

Every unit is inside their own aura so as long as it doesn't say other vehicle it should work.

Just 2. The benefit is getting the Twin-linked tag.

Yes, the Warboss give the Warboss keyword to the unit they are attached to, and so are effected by all rules and stratagems that effects warbosses

@@RllyGudGuy thank you very much for the answer. where is this exact thing written in the rules? this really surprises me a lot. does the leader of every faction automatically transfer his keywords to the unit he is attached to, or is this an ork-exclusive thing?

@@theicedrose3220 under the leaders section of deployment abilities in the core rules, it states that a leader and their attached unit are considered one unit. This applies to any leader to any army, meaning that if a rule targets any of a unit that has any leader’s key words, it can effect the attached bodyguard as their in the same unit as the leader with the effected keyword. Note this doesn’t effect the body guard if the rule states models with the effected key word rather then unit

@@theicedrose3220 Also check the free download rules commentary PDF under the 'Keywords' section. This is more clear than the main rule book.

You can't carry over damage though, so a FNP made against a 3 damage weapon on a 3W models, means that models loses 2Ws, so you need another 3 damage attack to kill the model, so that would be two 3D hits to kill one model, that is where FNPs on multiple wound infantry models can be nasty against weapons with more than 1D.

@@tajj7 yeah i know. The numbers provided by me are talking about averages. It assumes 2x d3 and 3x d2 (for the plasma) going through saves. Because of the fnp that averages 3 damage. I'm a bit perplexed you tried to explain this to me considering i even mentioned the unreliability in my comment. Lascannons in the video (24 hits needed) btw assumed the same thing i assume here. 24 hits - > 20 wounds - > 10 failed saves for 10x4.5 damage (or an average of 2 needed to kill one meganob).

Ork is a way of life. One does not simply leave Orks

@@whichDude I hope so, only one dude had an army painted. The rest are obviously riding the band wagon. Power playing to the finest.

Orks is the best. Bout time

@@thagoodstuff777 What kinda lame tournament doesn't enforce painted armies?

@@krilc Local GTs, we have a bunch in Ohio. You just dont get your 10 pts for painted. Though I have been to some that do enforce the painted thing.

I wish fan boys wrote every Codex.xD

I play them to. We have no chance