Burst Vs Consistent DPS [ Lost Ark ] 

Every video I make, I always have some hindsight. And the comments and me just thinking about some of these things, I thought I would list my changes I would make to this video in hindsight. 1. Using DB to compare the playstyles: While I was too focused on the damage spread on it, RE players were not happy with it because the value of their rotation to hit 3 orbs. I wasn't talking that much about the rotation itself, as I was mostly making this to talk about wiffing your major skills. And while RE still has the ability to recover from 1 or 2 wiffed skills, this angered the RE bros. I'll give my overall thoughts on the DBs in the future, but it is 100% my fault for using DB as the comparison when it comes to wiffing skills when it is a rare outlier of consistent that needs to build meter. 2. Burst Playstyle : I didn't really go over that burst playstyle has varied types, like long burst liike Igniter and short cycles like Eso WD and basically constant uptime like Surge. And also that the line can be blurred a little with NE SE as it is very short cycled and I understand why people think it can be in either category, but just like the previous point, I was very focused on uptime and damage spread. This is something I should had put more thought into. 3. Reclear Content : If the damage is really high, it is true that burst classes can get cucked out of their damage window either by a bunch of consistent pushing mechs while you build, or more often in my experience with my static, the burst that stimmied up and bursted frame 1 cucks the person who didn't stimmy om. I think those are the three major points that would change if I could. But as a mmo content creator, I'm sure I'll make a similar video sometime in the video where I can have a new set of hindsight changes but it will have these fixes at least.

Absolute banger my friend!

I play both blade's engravings since the launch of the game in EU and I wouldn't say one is more difficult than the other, difficulty resides in different factors for both engraving and one might be better at playing one engraving or the other. The real difference for me is that, with RE, you get to hit your ceiling if you are very good at it. With surge, a big part of the factors that may allow you to hit your ceiling aren't into your own hands (crit rate on surge, boss moving out of your stationnary stacking spells (that you need to use because the CDs are low anyways so if you hold them you're wasting time, if you use them the boss might randomly jump out of it), boss phasing before you even reach 60 stacks in overgeared contents (like brel g3)...). This simple difference makes surge way more frustrating to play in my opinion, but not harder. I like when I feel like my game knowledge and skill allow me to hit the ceiling of a class, so I mainly go by RE blitzless now and I am having a lot of fun with it. I might grab surge back for Thaemine and Echidna as the engraving looks kind of fun on these raids tho. But yeah, surge might have a higher ceiling but, since a part of the reasons you might reach it aren't into your own hands, it feels harder without actually being harder. :]

What website are you using to see these dmg charts and logs? Good video anyways

7:24 this is the life of EO. 20 second burst, 50 second down time ... and not a single support on the planet can consistently line up burst to your 20 second hype rotation. Edit: Made a Surge blade to prove a point with the express pass. Personally, the core of the build is easy. Implementing that core within a raid requires raid knowledge. It's not unlike EO in that way. However, it's nowhere near as punishing as other classes. Sure, if you miss a Surge you're missing 300-500 mil dmg that you get full blade arts back for and can get another surge in 9-12 seconds. But say, on other builds like EO if you mess up your H3 window you're missing out on 1.4-1.7 billion dmg with a forced 50-second downtime that cannot be recovered. It's definitely a different kind of difficulty. Both have their issues.

I switchted my blade from surge to re recently and dont regret it a single bit, I hated the dependency on crit synergies bc despite having like 70% crit rate (I even have precise with highest roll on bracelet) every ability but my surges would crit, out of 10 surges maybe 3 would crit and that let my depression grow bigger and bigger till I decided to swap to re, one of the biggest downsides of surge imo is that you cant hold your 60 stacks so if you doing reclear content and rushing through the gates if youre unlucky/too slow you have your 60 stacks and want to surge but the boss says nope and does a mech/gets dr and that pissed me off, i find re to be much easier to play, yes you have to chase the back of the boss but except for maybe kayangel thats not a big problem especially when youre playing dark axel

is surge really a burst class though? given how often you surge it looks like consistent dps with skewed damage distribution

Just for information at 5:09 BT definitely doesnt profit from there beeing no Boss on the Screen and in some cases not even from mid to long DR time. BT is basicly a State you enter for like 1min 30sec and after you have to rebuild the next state for like 5-6 sec So no Boss beeing on the screen is making you lose what you already worked for and puts you at a disadvange even towards other Spec classes since you technically used your igniter just the let it run out.

What skin are you using on that character?

Just some nitpick things I would say atro has way more than 50% on constant dps. Most constant dps still has 3-4 skills that make up ~70%+ of their dps which they can fit into an atro cycle. Saying burst is good on hw is kinda misleading. It really depends on the raid, how stationary the boss is and how often it phases. Some burst classes can literally do z dps if constant dps classes such as pred/NE push the bosses from mech to mech and allow for no opportunity to burst.

0:37 Crazy how gassed up people make Predator out to be, but it's really not the best performer in Ivory. Not even close. That doesn't mean it's bad, but it's amusing because a lot of people think it's super high dps. I think the craziest one near the top is grav training. Shock is a little... I'm gonna do it!... shocking to see so far up there, but g4 does seem to leave big gaps for back attacking burst. And for the difficulty comparison, it really boils down to: consistent don't stop vs burst don't miss. With little nuances added to each class depending on their individual niche playstyle. My personal take on which should have a higher ceiling is I believe consistent should, but depending on the conditionals, it should be higher or lower. I could go further into it, but I don't wanna leave AS big of a wall of text.

Also surge isn’t burst it just feels that way cause the number is high it’s more consistent just not swift kinda consistent but the rotation is so fast you can’t really consider it burst

Imo NE Souleater is a burst and nost a consistent class. Your most dmg are the pink skins ther that leathal spining.

No one indeed balancing the game om om

Hot take. The game shouldn't focus the balance around parse data and hard mode. The bulk of the player base shouldn't suffer because of how premades and top end groups can perform.

Being a soulfist main and empress as first dps alt，there's no way arcana is harder than soulfist and I'm not even talking about crazy ass rotations. The fact that you have to time your hype with dominiom proc and you have to adjust your hype window each time you go with a different team is a lot to think about. Way harder than remember what each card does

still gatekeeping is equal