Busting More Myths in Baldur's Gate 3 

Patch 3 Updates: Fixes According to Patch that I didn't test: "If an NPC calls for guards and you then shapeshift or disguise yourself without any witnesses, the guards will interrogate you rather than directly arrest you afterwards." Also they fixed the tooltip on the trap disarm kits and thieves tools. So now it's more clear.

Oh boy, I feel so stupid. Played as a thief for over 200h and didn't realize that I wasn't consuming thief tools stocked up 50 of them xD

The fun thing is, I found about the Underdark shortcut completely by accident cuz I was raven morphed as a druid with everyone else dead and no hope of winning the fight, so I flew into the chasm, reached the bottom unharmed but didn't get the cutscene. Myth Busted by Wild Shape too !

I have 250 hours in this game and every time I lockpick/disarm a trap I always tell myself "damn I should have checked how many tools I had so I know if it consumes them" AND EVERY TIME I FORGET AND I NEVER MANAGED TO GET AN ANSWER you saved me a great descent into madness thank you so much

During the trials of Shar one of the mirror images actually disarmed me, picked up the Blood of Lathander, and despawned on death without dropping it. It's not only possible but it can lead to some very weird situations.

Since it seems a good amount of people didnt know about the lockpick and thieves tools, Ill throw in another tip people might not know. For the buried chests hidden throughout the game you don’t actually have to pass the checks on any of your characters to get said chest. Just use a shovel from your inventory and dig around the area where the dirt mound would be if you had passed those survival checks. Furthermore, there’s actually a few chests throughout the game that dont have any checks and can only be found by simply knowing they exist and using a shovel from your inventory. One such chest in act 1 is located under the bridge leading up to the toll house where the paladins of tyr are.

Kind of a bummer that Disguise Self is so limited in its uses. From this it seems like all it’s good for is fitting into small openings, speaking with dead that you’ve killed, and walking out of jail like you mentioned.

How do you play this game for hundreds of hours and not notice the ever-growing pile of Thieves Tools in your inventory? 😂

When I fought Anders in the tollhouse, I thought I was super-clever by Commanding him to drop his sword. But he immediately picked it up again. So I am not sure why you did not have the same experience, but it DEFINITELY happened to me because he killed my Bard MC twice with that damn sword. I was on Tactician, and it did take him an entire turn to pick up and re-equip the sword.

If you fail a lockpicking roll there is an option to reroll while consuming a thieves tool. So you definitly need more than one in your inventory.

Much easier way to not get caught stealing is sending the character who did the deed to camp immediately afterwards. The victim will still try and call your other characters out, but they can just honestly say they didn't do it and the NPC will drop it.

Don’t know if you’ll read this but you can tell that you put an incredible amount of effort into this video. Great work. This is the level of obsession I love to see in creative work. Also those texts from Jessica felt too real lol.

IDK whether if the re-equip is based on enemy INT or any other thing, but in my battle with Githyankis, they were always re-equip their wep asap.

Quality video. No bullshit, no sponsor ads, just pure CONTENT!

Thank you for busting the first myth. There were a lot of people saying that if you took too long to complete the grove quest, the tieflings would leave and the ritual would be complete. I couldn't find the exact number of days anywhere, so I completed the whole quest and a few parts of act 1 without long resting at all.

After the theft, merchants begin to suspect the theft of the first companion or player they see nearby, but if the question about the theft is asked to someone other than the person who committed the theft, they can say that you didn’t do it and they easily let you go. But if the character who is asked the question stole it, they won’t believe you. Disguise probably works in such a way that after asking about the theft, they will believe you even if you stole it.

Anders, the guy posing as paladin of Tyr who has the Sword of Justice, consistently picks-up his sword after being disarmed even if he has other actions available.

I am in shock about the Thieve's Tools one. I never realised it only consumed it if you failed--It makes sense though 😅

This video took me close to 70 hours to complete which I didn't really expect when I started it. So I hope people enjoy it as much as I did creating it. I also tried adding it in 4k, not sure if people will use that though. I can't tell the difference on my screen but if you can let me know it adds about 3 hours to the process, and I had to spend some extra money to unlock that but if I find people prefer that I'll continue to do it!

It's a great QOL change to not consume trap disarm kits. In Divinity Original Sin 2, those got used up so you had to be very sparing with them.

I got BG3 a few days ago and was looking like a mad man for actual good, expert content (love your tips and tricks vids). You're awesome for how much effort you put into these! Really shows in the quality

The first one happened to me, which really sucked and I didn't understand why. Someone said it was 10 long rests, but I thought I'd rested longer than that. Thank you for clearing this up for me!

Man, it’s good to know about the grove part, I rush to saved the Druid leader and miss many parts in act 1… including two party members. Now I know I can take my time to explore all of act 1 areas before triggering the event flag

busting that first myth is actually amazing for a lot of players' peace of mind, thanks a lot for your time!

The disguise self thing makes sense logically. If you stole something, then they don't know you're the one who did it. They don't know that you looked like a gnome when you did it. They catch you because they find the item on you. On the other hand, when you're a fugitive they know what you look like. They know your character is the fugitive, so they wouldn't bat an eye at the random gnome. The "friends" thing is the weird thing here. They "became friends" with the gnome, not your character, so how do they know it's your characters? I guess you could chalk it up to "it's magic" and they have some kind of lingering feeling that you're the one they were friends with... since they would have been friends with you regardless of your appearance while under the effect.

The weapon dropping is really weird. Some NPCs can and cant from what ive seen. Commander Zhalk seems to be the only one who won't no matter what. It feels random, I've had enemies pick it up immediately, some run at me to punch me in the throat, and some stand around confused, dash, then stand still for a few seconds before ending their turn. The AI seems really unsure how to respond.

Good to know about the grove, I definitely minimised long rests in Act 1, what a waste of time lol I've also seen other people be confused about the trap disarm kits and lockpicks not being consumed, it's not just you

Thank you for this video, especially debunking the grove myth! This would have made things so much easier for me had I known this so hope it helps someone else. I was worried on my first run through that I'd activate the grove lockdown by taking a long rest and didn't want to risk it (playing as a druid myself, felt important to the RP side of things)... so I handled the entire goblin camp, missions, and taking out of the whole interior on just the two short rests given (granted, I only fought those inside the temple, handled the outside after completing the grove quest and getting a long rest in). It did make every choice though feel important and had to play things slow and steady. Talked my way in with bluffs and persuasions, scouted the area and accomplished all side missions I could, and when I finally initiated combat, battled from the bottom on up of the temple employing a lot of subterfuge, baiting, and tactical combat. Fun, but stressful, lol.

I think the biggest myth that needs busting is the Workshop Bench myth. Lots of conflicting opinions from websites (probably AI generated) and forums claiming you should not sell Gold/Silver/Bronze ingots, because in Act III there's a workbench in your camp. Love the editing and no-BS content you're providing. It's a hard subscribe from me, good sir!

I love that you are doing Myth Busters for BG3. Thanks Proxy.

Dude, I had to add a thumbs up just for the sheer amount of effort you put into the testing. Well done.

Thanks for taking time to test this stuff out, people like you add a lot to the community!

Disguise self can help you when speaking with the dead if you killed the npc and still wanna talk with them. Simply cast a disguise before casting speak with the dead and the dead npc will talk with you instead of just refusing to speak.

If You disguise Yourself as a masculine tiefling while floating through Avernus on the Nautiloid, the boars and imps won’t attack You. I dunno about the demons but I was able to run right pass the regular enemies without them reacting to my presence.

your dedication is unbelievable, you're my favorite BG3 channel by far!!!

Regarding enemies re-equipping weapons - during the tutorial level, when I used the command drop spell on one of the cambion, he picked up his weapon on the next round. So the enemies don't only try to pick up their weapons when they have no other course of action. The rest of the video is super informative tho, disproved alot of "confirmed" info that I saw being posted on reddit which just goes to show you shouldnt just blindly trust info online. Cant imagine the hours it must have took to test all the scenarios. Great video!

Man I LOVE your videos. Straight forward to the point, no BS, and the myth busting is *chefs kiss*

I've noticed enemies will re-equip weapons frequently later in the game. I often use honeyed paws on my ranger bear to lock enemies into a loop, they either waste an action re-equipping or just try to punch a bear, but usually only resort to punches if I steal the weapon.

You get *really* thorough with these. Really give the myth the benefit of the doubt. Bravo.

We need more videos like this that squashes all rumors that many people or influencers (mistakenly) spread to be true. Good job!

lmmfao of course disguise self doesn't work when they see you use the spell. also if they don't see you steal something they just accuse who ever is nearby. so it is possible that the reason it works for some people is that simply walking away and not being in the area when they realize they were robbed is enough to prevent suspicion.

As a noob to the franchise this channel is a treat! Im always surprised to see new discoveries and strategies coming out to tell my friends about. Excellent job as always i hope this channel grows to the size it should be. Keep up the good work man!

Thank you. I hope you enjoy making these since I want more :D

10/10. This game desperately needed Mythbusters. Thank you for your time and efforts.

I really am surprised that the blood of lathander ability works on the underdark pit but death ward does not. In normal 5e, if you take damage equal to current hp + max hp it straight up insta-kills you. You don't make saving throws, you just die. This effect is negated by death ward, but not by an effect that would trigger when you enter the dying state. Great video, been loving the mythbusting you are doing.

The Enhance Ability spell says that it reduces fall damage when you hover over the spell icon next to the player's avatar

Excellent video! Would love to see more myth busting content on bg3, definitely learned a few new things here

Thanks for great work done in this video!

The Disguise self myth was not known to me, what I do know can be done with it are things like this: When you get arested and escape the prison you get a debuff for two minutes prompting guards to arrest you again on sight, this can be circumvented with with disguise self. When you obtain a weapon with Race requirements like a Gith sword you can Disguise self to use bonuses it awards to specific races. It allows the player to change character size allowing you to squeeze through holes to small for you... If a certain race gives aditional speach options they can be promted with disguise self. These above mentioned are tested and work.

Respect for the thoroughness of testing.

Appreciate the time you took to test these myths/assumptions. I didn't realize my thief's tools weren't being consumed because I rarely failed.

Thanks for your service man, I’m sure these videos take a lot of time but you’re the absolute best bg3 youtuber! Keep it up bro!

All thieves tools are good for to stack is that they act as inspiration and lets you retry the lock. Helped a lot when I was busting open some AC 30 vaults

Great vid, something I found out recently is that you can speak with dead even if you're the one who killed the NPC. Oftentimes, a narration of "The corpse is willing to speak but not to it's murderer" comes up when you try, but if you disguise self first the corpse doesn't recognise you and so is willing to have a chat which I thought was neat.

another great vid answering those burning questions

thank you for doing real hard work here!

great stuff like always, but I suspect its rather hard to find myths like this to test. As another topic would not mind seeing more content ideas like niche item combinations for builds, there are plenty of hard to use situational magic items for spell damage types/conditions that I can't quite piece together.

About Disarm weapons - I remember using it on bandits(?) in a crypt, the one at the beginning near the starting beach, and barbarian in that group picked its weapon the moment their turn started, since I was unable to pick it up during mine turn.

Love the videos! Hope Larion patches in more ways to jump into the Underdark

Thank you for being so thorough

Wow actually, wow! You are a godsend to the bg3 community. I had no idea that thieves tools werent consumed :D

Goblins may not be a great test subject. I was testing how to get the moon lantern from Karniss without killing their Harper. If you kill Karniss and pick up the moon lantern, the Harper takes it. If you disarm him and equip it, the harpers ask for you to give it to them in a cut scene. But if you disarm him and then pick up the moon lantern, and then send the moon lantern to camp while in battle, you can ally with the harpers and keep the moon lantern. In the process of testing this, I find that Karniss does pick up his weapon but not the moon lantern. Also, I recall that in tactician the Githyanki patrol also pick up their weapon when disarmed (while having other actions to do such as attacking someone in range).

I can't thank you enough. I was scared of resting. Not anymore. You just gain a subscriber.

Thieves tools/disarming thingy are consumed on failed attemtps. Also about disguise self. Maybe it will work if you won't dispell your illusion so close to the npc? Just the trought that crossed my mind while watching your video. Great job mate! Had fun watching it :)

I would really love to see a redo of your summon video or similar challenge videos! It was so fun! Perhaps a different challenge?

The Grove closes when the Tieflings are gone, no matter the way they leave. Unless you steal the Idol and obviously not if you finish the quest by killing the Goblin leaders. That is all. I think the Cat’s Grace version of Enhance Ability reduces Fall Damage. Some enemies don’t pick up their weapons, and others do even if they have other actions available, like the sleeping Bugbears in the Goblin Camp. Thieve’s Tools and Disarm Kits get consumed when you fail. Which makes sense, you failed, you broke your tools.

I restarted twice. Once halfway in act 2. Once halfway into act 1 when I realized I missed out on the flaming sword lol. I have been so stressed about long resting.. you’re a godsend.

Thank you for testing! i have 200h of playtime in act 1 and some of these things I wasn`t sure about. Especially the 'can you rest too often' which lead me to have long rested like 3-4 times so far. Playing in Tactician difficulty and honestly even with only 3-4 rest I find this game quite easy and forgiving. Though I do reload bs things like a random explosion blasting me off in the abyss

That's not what the Mountain Pass pop-up said when the game released, which is why it was insanely confusing. The only warning we got was that there were like higher level enemies/it would be more dangerous or something. Which is why we were very confused when we went through it to just checking the area out and then came back to finish off the goblin camp before realizing something was very messed up.

The only time I've seen someone pick a weapon back up was the Githyanki inquisitor and he actually picked a weapon dropped by another dead Githyanki as I had already pocketed his weapon but it took a few turns for him to do it. I made him drop via the fear spell and it ended up being a pretty good tactic since me and my friends could just ignore him and his insane ac.

You're the best. I was always curious about what causes the grove to lock down but couldn't wade through all the misinformation.

I need approx 1 million more of these videos. Specifically, I would like you to map every single trigger condition in the game for all things. thank you in advance.

Man this is some of the best, if not *the* best BG3 content on RU-vid. Your dedication to doing it right is awesome, really appreciate the work that goes into make this kind of video.

The first myth I had a similar experience in my first playthrough at the grymforge. Went there, tried to unalive the traders, failed miserably due to being there a bit too early, traveled back to the first area and defeated the hag and a handful of other quests including recruiting karlach and wyll, then finally returned to the rubble being cleared and the trapped nere being dead and all of the npcs to being gone.

Great video. It's worth mentioning that it doesn't require any action to pick up a weapon, so better safe than sorry in my opinion.

These videos are so good. Games like this leave me with so many questions lol

If you fail the lock pick or disarm check it consumes it

I believe the Dex Enhance Ability option reduces fall damage probably won't actually have an effect but it would be interesting to test it

Dude … you are a legend. Nice work.

i love watching this because i’ve done two playthroughs currently both at a the Moonrise Towers and literally what is the spider boss lmao 😭

The disguise self trick does appear to work. Its just both times you did it there is only you and the merchant anywhere near by so using their powers of deduction the thief has to be you as there is simply no-one else around. You should use the spell, pickpocket and move well away from the person you pickpocketed while they notice the theft. Then you change out of your disguise (while still out of lines of sight of anyone) and walk back to the person and they won't accost you for the crime.

I have experience with enemies re-equipping their weapons during combat, but it seems to be the more advanced/tougher foes and so far, only non-ranged. This is also a bit of a rare occurrence. Edit: Only seen it during tactician mode.

Quality content again Proxy. Great Vid.

I save scummed my way through the game with disarm/lockpicking and have been using a single lockpick/disarm set each since the beginning of the game. The rest get directly sent to camp to save on weight.

i didnt even know the grove could close

That last one is mostly due to a confusing description of toolkits. But, it's not hard to figure out. The biggest thing for me is Hex. The debuff is super confusing if you're not familair with DnD rules.

One of the triggers for this to happens is if you talk to Mythara, and explaind her where is the Druid Grove, and she will make an ambush waiting for your signall, but if you do get more then 3 long rest, she will atack without you and the Grove will be Seled

You're doing God's work with these myth busting videos! Keep it up! Also, worth noting that Arcane Trickster Rogue's mage hand also straight up doesn't work the way it's supposed to, on top of the janky nature of standard mage hand you showed off here. Here's hoping they patch both the spell and the AT's boost to it soon!

Love your commitment to testing facts before putting out guides/videos, was getting sick of people just riding the wave and posting nonsense for views. As always love your videos!

7:22 There's an item in act 3 that makes you immune to fall damage, Nyrulna. I don't think there's any way to get it in act 1 without mods or something, but that could be interesting to test.

Yeeeeah, I had disarmed the Commander in the tutorial, expecting him to ignore it and not pick it up again. Well, he DID re-equip it in combat. Was quite the shocker for me :D

I'm late to this one so I hope you see this. There's another thing that's been bugging me and seems like a good thing to test: Is there anyway to get the jump on the Harpy encounter? They all start either invisible, or something, and I tried a bunch of different ways to attack them before they ambush you after you talk to the kid. Nothing seemed to work. Feels like if there's some way to cheese it, you could find it! Great content as always, of course. Incredible fun and informative video.

Here are a few Myths, although i know the answer to some of them I still think they can help you with your content: Do DCs for ability checks get higher on tactician? Does Otiluke's Resilient Sphere really block every damage except fall damage? (since fall damage does seem to still go through) Do Npc's have every item they have in there pocket/ Can you really pickpocket every item a Npc has? Do Foes pick up other weapons when disarmed or only their own? Does the Feather Fall or the ability of the Monk to reduce fall damage work with spells like Telekinesis?

Interestingly with the Grove questline, if you remove the shadow druids, the grove will never lock out no matter what you do.

I believe, and I'd have to check this, difficulty might have to do with whether or not enemies pick up their weapons during combat and their intelligence. It takes an action to equip, so their tactics take that into account most likely. One combat tactic i know that gets used a lot more in higher difficulties is killing off downed party members. I might be imagining this as well but leaders of groups tend to make smarter decisions such as pick up weapons, killing off downed party characters and so on. Fun myth busting list you have.

for last one , you are not alone , it is first time i noticed that too

On the long rests for the grove, thank you, I've had it go on lock down once (killed Kharga, but didn't kill all of the druids attacking the Tieflings because I just fast traveled out, but reloaded, killed her, killed the druids, and all was well). So thanks for that because I got so paranoid about my long rests in the beginning of the game, and it seems to skip a few early scenes with Astarion and stuff.

Thanks and great vid! I also thought that 'thief tool used' meant it was used up XD

While I was still learning the game and testing things, I used Command to make the bugbear in the grove drop its weapon and it immediately picked it back up on its next turn.

On the lockpick/disarm thing, I actually checked that for myself to confirm that it only consumed those items on failure because the pop up notification is quite unclear.