A Canadian playing a Mexican, interesting. I instantly noticed that they gave him eye contacts. How can anyone miss seeing those blue and gray eyes? You'd have to be crazy not to notice that they hid it.
1985 would be the perfect year for me as well. 18 years old, just joined the Marines, hadn't met my ex-wife yet. I may still be happily married right now if you take me with you.
This is a plot hole. If every other trip (except for when he jumped to the time he met his father) resulted in everyone not remembering anything about the previous timeline, then Evan's cellmate couldn't have remembered Evan's hands being puncture-free before the jump.
That was the first plothole that made me realise how bullshit the plot is. Don't get me wrong, I still very much enjoyed the film, but the plot is laughable.
It’s didn’t directly effect Carlos timeline so his destiny was the same. How would Evan puncturing his hands as a child effect Carlos. The ripples in time only affect certain events not all of them.
I know it's very difficult to carry out such a scenario, but this scene is not coherent. An 11-year-old child who sticks a stake in each hand is out of school, hospitalized, and his journey is different. And with the butterfly effect, he shouldn't end up in prison. This is the only incoherent scene in the film.
I love this scene and still do but later in life when i became a little more critical of media, i thought about this: if he went back in time and stabbed his hands like that in class, im 100% sure that he would have changed his timeline like that, not just scars but im sure he would end up somewhere else cause thats something that would definitely change the trajectory of a kids life
Gotta give Kevin Durand Credit!!!! I didn’t know it was him until I came back to this TODAY in 2022 on RU-vid and recognized him lol. … Damn good job!!
I know it's very difficult to carry out such a scenario, but this scene is not coherent. An 11-year-old child who sticks a stake in each hand is out of school, hospitalized, and his journey is different. And with the butterfly effect, he shouldn't end up in prison. This is the only incoherent scene in the film.
Here's something I don't get. If Evan went back to spike his hands, how were the scars a miracle to Carlos?Wouldn't Evan have had the scars since this incident in his new reality? Wouldn't he have arrived at the prison with those scars?
Because, Carlos was religious as you saw he had Jesus tattooed on his arm. During his crucifix, Jesus had gotten nails hammered into both hands which would leave marks like Evan had. That's why it was a miracle to Carlos. Hope this answer your question 6 years later lol.
Also technically since he didn't go back in time before prison that whole incident never happened remember? Evan in his younger years blacked out. The scars would have yet to happen, they were just waiting to appear once Evan goes back and relives that moment again because it never happen since he blacked out.
Yes and no. Changes only happen to Evan when he performs the act. As he did not before meeting Carlos, his injuries somehow appeared miraculously even though they should've existed for years. Same with McComb's scar in Time Cop.
Yes this scene goes against the rest of the movie. When he changes his future he changes all around him as well so when he came back he would have came back to Carlos thinking he always had the marks.
From the logic I'm gathering in this movie: 1.) If you are in reality A, & make a jump into the past, do something drastic, it will change everything, and wipe everything in reality A and transport you into reality B (when he blew his arms off). But if you don't do something drastic enough (hand spike), you will return to the same reality A, and the changes will only happen to Ashton from that jump and him returning. Think about Back to the Future logic, and the picture fading
Plot hole. Unless Carlos was unaffected by the time travel (while everything else in existence was) he shouldn't have ever noticed that Kutcher didn't have those scars before.
At 2:03-2:06 You can see him holding Kutcher's right hand. If you pause after 2 seconds right after 2:03 you can see him looking down at his hands from his shoulder. Most likely when he collapsed in his arms his hands were the first thing visible
Time Travel Rules short version 1. Only observe don't change history.🍐 2. Wear clothes from that time period.🕵 3. Only spend 2 minutes in the past.🕵🕓 For those who want to time travel.
Time Travel Rules full version 1. Only observe don't change history.🍐 2. Wear clothes from that time period.🕵 3. Only spend 2 minutes in the past.🕵🕓 4. If history is changed by mistake go back and change it back.🕵🚀 5. Find a hide out. So the time machine doesn't fall into the wrong hand's.🚇🐨 6. No time business only have one time machine.🚀
1:49 i just realized, he drew himself doing to the inmates what he plans on doing to the inmates when he goes back to the present to get his journal back. Same inmates and everything
This is the biggest plot hole in the movie. If he did that in grade school, he would have already had the scars when he got to prison. There's no way Carlos couldsee them appear out of nowhere. And a grade-schooler purposely hurting himself in class not having any affect on his life spits on the entire idea of the butterfly effect the movie is based on.
Not to mention, even if he still ended up in the prison this is alternate version where he would have the scars on his hands from ther very beginning. Carlos would have seen those scars when he arrived to the prison.
Jose Aldo's Translator, That's what I am saying when I wrote he didn't travel back with him. The original comment is stating that he did. The biggest plot twist is that he shouldn't have returned to the prison because every time he went back into the future ended up somewhere else.
I had always thought he was one of the extras in the prison that was allowed to act in the movie. P.S. that location is The Monroe Correctional Complex in Monroe, WA where they shot this scene. It was even near the high school
i was so happy because i thought there was a cool strong and handsome Mexican actor that played this role so well out there, and i look him up and it's a gringo putting on brownface lol
I remember watching this movie years back with my Mexican family and when we saw who it was (because we saw him on The Strain and Xmen) and he got called, we laughed our asses off 😂
I just saw him in Legion and he was just huge and muscular and yummy. I didn't know he was such versatile actor. Thank you for uploading videos of him!
I know it's very difficult to carry out such a scenario, but this scene is not coherent. An 11-year-old child who sticks a stake in each hand is out of school, hospitalized, and his journey is different. And with the butterfly effect, he shouldn't end up in prison. This is the only incoherent scene in the film.
He was also wearing a beanie so we couldn't see his whole face plus he was sporting a mustache too. I don't think anyone could recognize him as Kevin Durand.
I never got how him piercing his hands as a child never altered the course of his entire life and just that moment. This scene kinda did it for me, but it was a twisted-ass movie so I watched the whole thing.
I know it's very difficult to carry out such a scenario, but this scene is not coherent. An 11-year-old child who sticks a stake in each hand is out of school, hospitalized, and his journey is different. And with the butterfly effect, he shouldn't end up in prison. This is the only incoherent scene in the film.
There's an even bigger hole you both missed (and me too at first): the timeline would at least change so that he ALWAYS had those scars, so the prisoner wouldn't be shocked as he saw nothing change.
Just ftr, it’s not necessarily an unredeemable plot hole. The Butterfly Effect has to have a certain degree of randomness, so sometimes only minor changes may come from minor changes in the past.
"I crack the whip, you skip, but you deserved it, deserved it, deserved it!" Listening to it just as the cell activity took place! PERFECT Fuck yes, EVAN!!!! :) Reminded me of American history X for sure. ;) 🙋🏻♂️
What I never understood, is how did he end up back in this situation, (Going back to his childhood, to end back up in the Cell with the Kevin's character knowing exactly what they had talked about) surely Evan even with that small change in his life, would have changed the past right? I don't believe in time travel, that being said, I've always thought that even if you changed anything as little as a cough or even held your breath, you could alter the future drastically. If you hadn't introduced somebody to someone else, then that friend of yours may never have created that successful business using your contacts.... etc
What bothers me is that is a mistake in the core concept of the movie. It is CALLED The Butterfly Effect, how minor changes make major changes eventually, and yet we're supposed to believe a 12 yo piercing his hands on purpose wouldn''t alter anything xD
He's actually irish before he's canadian.....so it's a republic leinster irishman who was born in canada playing a southern mexican who is a prison mate.....so.....there's a cuchullain che gueverra karl marx kind of thing going there
Badger With A Troubled Past And Nothing To Lose Likely Eastern-European w/ mongoloid components/features a'la Putin (i.e., lack of eyelid bi-folds). Which differs greatly from a White person with Asian components a'la Keanu Reeves.
